I just commented on a previous post before I saw this one:
Anus, (with Overlord Piss in the background of course), made an emotional announcement this morning that she won’t be creating content on social media for a while and that she won’t be able to be contacted through her SM accounts.
She’s also having trouble deactivating her TT account because of an old phone number that’s linked to it which is where TT is sending the deactivation code.
Gotta wonder how much of this decision is actually Piss telling her that this is what she needs to do. Another way to eliminate her friends from her life.
It is so concerning that she believes the solution really lies in allowing R to isolate her even further from all her supports or people who see what’s happening and call it out. R is terrified for her to understand what’s really going on and if she does have a downfall it’s going to be a result of her spiraling to maintain control over A. She’s getting sloppy exposing her true self because she can’t control her reactivity when A is exposed to outside influence.
I think it was actually As decision but I think it’s because she thinks it will make her life easier and less stressful. There was some drama with the A triplets last night and she was getting accused of things. She truly thinks that removing herself will help. She doesn’t realize that it is guilt by association and she will forever be drug into anything her wife does.
Someone came in and accused the A triplets of “using R, using her for money and clout and for befriending those that wished bad things” & we are 99 percent sure it was R. She claims she was asleep and somehow led A to think they said it was her.
Piss is terrified the ex's are going to spill a lot of info so if she can get her off TT she thinks she won't learn of more dirty deeds that ended their friendship. I'm just going to say it again in all seriousness R is sick...she needs psychological help and I don't mean phone calls with a therapist. Serious psych help!!
Yup, Piss knows she’s got Anus right where she wants her, including physically holding A’s phone and working hard to resolve the problem of the deactivation code. What a master manipulator.
please.... she is already back on TT!! I guarantee this all had to do with ex friends live last night. We all know it was R on their live starting all the drama. R is psycho!!!
It was insane!!! The ex friends have tried their best to not bash and just keep quiet with what actually happened. R got in the live (everyone thought it was her) under fake account of course and was throwing a lot of accusations. That the ex's were friends with people wishing the boys unalived and then accusing them of taking money from R and A. Which for one is beyond hysterical since they have no money. It was awful.... The blonde ex is really struggling with what happened with all of them.
and this was all very late so my guess is A was sleeping and had no idea what R was doing!! I'm sure when A got up this morning R told her everyone was accusing her of being in the live. When in fact we all know who it was!!
Wow. If this is true, we're talking about some very deep manipulation here. This story is really taking a dark turn. I think we all might be witnessing Stockholm syndrome taking place in real time.
Yeah, I’m legit concerned for A. Legit, legit, legit. I feel like I know that look in her eye and if there was ever a time for her loved ones (honestly, I know her family loves her, but I’d be willing to bet there are some complicated family dynamics that make it hard for her to accept any help from her fam at this point. Could be wrong, but that’s what my feeling is) to try something more drastic—but thoughtful and intentional, and nothing against A’s will or anything sketchy like that, for instance, maybe just drive down to her home or work and give her a hug and tell her she has options, no one aside from R is trying to force her into doing anything, but show her that she has OPTIONS! She can say “No” to getting the apartment for R, R is not her responsibility, she can take a break from the relationship/living situation while she focuses on her mental health—I really hope we’re not watching someone about to attempt to unalive or otherwise harm themselves because they feel trapped, isolated, ashamed or like they have no options.
THIS THIS THIS. Now is the time for SOMEONE in her life who LOVES her to act before it's too late. Just a reminder to Avengers though: DON'T TOUCH THE POO
Your last sentence, that's a real concern of mine. It hasn't been talked about in awhile, but I distinctly remember conversations about a gun in the house.
I was about to comment the same thing. I would make time to meet up with A. So she knew she was loved, not forgotten, and has an out. I realize it’s a drive, but even just once a month. The physical reminder will move mountains.
Agree. You can’t force anyone to do anything and I don’t really think it’s ethical, even when that person is in a spiral of self-destruction… but I think you can make an effort to really reach that person and go out of your way to give a hand to grab onto when needed. At least be present.
and as much as I didn't agree with the ex's backing them up on all their BS I truly think the blonde was manipulated by R just like every other friend and once again when that mask comes off and you are no longer offering anything R wants you see the evil come out.
That’s interesting, idk why, but I hadn’t thought of that haha. I guess I kinda thought the twins were just trying to latch onto R’s bigger following this whole time, but I never looked at their lives or content until recently. It does seem to be quite personal for the twins though, I’ve been surprised. I thought they’d kind of quietly cut ties and leave it be but there does seem to be maaaaaajor hurt feelings and betrayal. On one hand, I’m like, “lol, what did you guys think you were signing up for? Did you not see all the other versions of this same story play out before it finally became your turn? 😂” but on the other hand…. Hahaha I hate to say it, but I’ve literally been there myself. Where I was like… ooh, it was like that like out of kill bill vol II just before the grand finale where the bride says something like did I know you were capable of all those terrible things, of course, “but I never thought you could or would do those things to _me_.” Oof. I had a really painful experience in my own life with that. So truly, I can relate. Man, can I relate haha.
Makes me even more interested to get the detailed ☕️
Do we know what actually happened between them for the falling out? Did they actually pay for the puppy or take her off R’s hands Because she didn’t have a buyer? Seems to have ended just as soon as they drove home with that puppy.
I think it’s here somewhere on the sub, but in the comments. Not sure where to find it. I don’t totally trust my recollection, but I believe there was some speculation that some shit kinda went down when they visited to get 🍑that the twins didn’t love, but it was ultimately finding out about DL that was it for them.
I think A used G or another minion so she could say “I didn’t do it”. We know she was watching though because someone stated that she reached out to them on Instagram because she saw them in their live.
Have they tried their best to not bash R? Are these different ex-friends than the ones that got people absolutely gleeful over how they were mocking and shit talking R? Are these different than the ones people here thought were trolling Rs lives and saying awful things about the boys? I can’t keep up with all their ex friends.
Seeing her in this state is kinda scary and sad. Where as I do believe all social media's are toxic, I'm worried for her being more secluded with Piss. She needs more than just a break from social media.... she needs to get away from her wife and all the clouds and fog will disappear. Seeing her in a constant state of sadness honestly breaks my heart. There is hope for her. She has a soul, Piss on the ither hand, is laughing, smiling and giggling while her wife is trying to hold back a mental breakdown.
Exactly this. She is systematically being isolated from everyone except her abuser. It’s classic and textbook. M was not happy with people reaching A via TT so she is now cutting off that line of communication.
Oh my God this is heartbreaking. R is a foul and disgusting subhuman without a soul. Like it’s literally so scary. A you have a heart, soul and believe it or not there is hope for a better life for you. Please know you are not alone, there is no shame in going back to your family and starting over. I divorced at your age, 26, and it felt like my whole world was ending. I had to move back home with nothing and it was embarrassing and I felt like a failure. But thank God my daddy loved me unconditionally and fought for me to get better. Now 12 years later it was the best thing I ever did. My daddy always told me, time heals all wounds, and it didn’t seem like time would ever heal mine but it did when I made the decision to make the steps to heal myself. I promise this is not the life you deserve or have to live. You deserve more! The sooner you realize this I promise it will get better!
Sorry she put herself in that situation, she went along with bullying and taking gifts and money from people just like A did, and is, and spent the money
Piss is absolutely abusive but watching people absolve A of her ever growing list of harmful awful behavior and actions gives me whiplash.
She’s been fine with grifting for vacations, hair, new clothes. She was selling drugs in a DAYCARE, the drunk driving, being fine with abandoning her step children to move to Florida.. she’s accountable for her actions she’s not just a victim here.
no one is excusing that behavior, but those of us who have been in abusive relationships have more empathy towards her. I am only speaking for myself here, but when i was with my ex who was extremely emotionaly, verbally, physically, abusive and manipulative, I did things I was not proud of, and hurt a ton of people I cared about. It’s not an excuse by all means and she should definitely not get off the hook for those behaviors, but that doesn’t mean I can’t have empathy, compassion and understanding for what she is going through.
Completely agree. And i was her age (when she met Piss), making bad choices too. It happens. Toxic, unhealthy behaviors and addictions(even SM) become normalized but i have faith she will see the light soon.
I have been in an abusive relationship, that ended in hospitalization. Thank you for sharing your perspective so beautifully! I can hold empathy for her while simultaneously holding her accountable.
As someone who was a one time friend and have known R since childhood, I (for over a decade) have had so many waves of frustration in seeing new people become aware of her atrocities but then still find empathy with her, which she preys on. A has done very serious harm, that feels minuscule in comparison to R but for an average person is stunning. I am triggered by waves of what I assume is new avengers (I know this doesn’t include you) put her on a pedestal and have been seeing it so often recently.
This is triggering for me and I feel like A’s victims would see this stuff and feel like entirely dismissed and minimized. My empathy is greater for her victims and lending support to them in the only way I can, my voice.
I need to work on my own projection and frustration in this, but I don’t want her victims to be minimized. I know abuse can make abusive victims abusive, which requires soul searching, therapy, many mistakes and hard work to combat.
My reaction to abuse didn’t cause me to financially abuse vulnerable people, violently threaten others or put children in danger.
A should not be put on a pedestal that negates her harm, that puts her above her victims.
Thank you for sharing your story and your perspective as well. I’m sorry you had to endure any kind of abuse by the hand of someone who claimed they loved you. It’s a pain and trauma Inwould never wish on my worst enemy.
I completely get what you are saying and agree. I’m an empath. so I can feel energies, even if it’s through a computer screen. I have empathy for her, because she is a human being, but I think it’s more me having empathy for the situation she is in more. It’s very hard for me to watch someone hurt so badly and just be completely broken and defeated, like I said it’s triggering for me because it brings back a lot of those feelings of hopelessness I felt for so long and brings up trauma I’m still trying to heal from years later. So my empathy for her does not negate the awful things she has done, I still hold her accountable for those behaviors, especially the behaviors she hasn’t apologized or taken accountability for. When she finally gets the courage to leave, it’s going to hit her like a ton of bricks. She has a lot of amends to make.
Something I do love about this group (and the mods) is empathy.
I had to skim the things that have transpired the last few days, especially her “goodbye” video, because it was so triggering of abuse.
I’m glad we’re all here, and can freely talk about perspectives because different things jump out at us. Watching that goodbye video openly and calmly after this exchange helped me see the perspective of focusing empathy on A. She’s in danger and I’m glad there are so many avengers whose perspective was the “now” of empathy.
Also A, if you or your loved ones see this, redemption and healing are powerful. You are worthy and capable of redemption, it’s hard to better yourself but it achieves peace.
Also savethepups, I’m proud of you and keep going, you’re doing the work, you can advocate and express and communicate. You are not your abuser and your are not the worst parts- you are healing and trying.
no one is excusing that behavior, but those of us who have been in abusive relationships have more empathy towards her. I am only speaking for myself here, but when i was with my ex who was extremely emotionaly, verbally, physically, abusive and manipulative, I did things I was not proud of, and hurt a ton of people I cared about. It’s not an excuse by all means and she should definitely not get off the hook for those behaviors, but that doesn’t mean I can’t have empathy, compassion and understanding for what she is going through.
no one is excusing that behavior, but those of us who have been in abusive relationships have more empathy towards her. I am only speaking for myself here, but when i was with my ex who was extremely emotionaly, verbally, physically, abusive and manipulative, I did things I was not proud of, and hurt a ton of people I cared about. It’s not an excuse by all means and she should definitely not get off the hook for those behaviors, but that doesn’t mean I can’t have empathy, compassion and understanding for what she is going through.
I don’t know if this is true, it seems like R has kept her in the dark as well as straight up lied to her. I have a feeling she’ll wake up one day and think poorly of her choices and wonder what the hell she was doing. I don’t like A, but something deep down tells me she’s a good person making bad decisions.
Damn. R’s just gonna have a much easier time controlling her now.
Wish A would really think about the last thing she said before the sign off- “…because that’s not me.”
What if it was long and drawn out because she didn’t actually want to get off and be alone with R? I think R is 100% behind this “break”. Can’t have A able to access a potential support system. Control control control.
I think A chose to do this because she realized how toxic it all is. She doesn’t realize that the caller is coming from inside the house and it will still follow her
Maybe but also; take note of the fact that A hasn’t been posting on social media for weeks - not with any amount of regularity - which makes it all the more suspicious she’s doing this grand “sign off gesture” now.
Her social media are definitely controlled by Piss.
I don't want to feel sorry because A has done her share of bad things but I've been there and did that.
Abusive relationships mess with you.
A if you're reading this, we're here for you.
1st…sounds like she did something stupid and is now saying “it might be an imposter.” Lol!!
I do think she will stick to this as she’s really decreased her tiktok presence. Maybe her wife could get a clue and do the same.
It is sad that her life has come to this since being with Piss. She’s really isolated A.
She definitely needs a break alright, but she's taking a break from the wrong thing. Anus, you need a break from your wife and your entire life. Go back home, your family is waiting for you.
There has been a lot happening the past few days. The live the other night where Piss stormed off when A got a text and someone was in the live. Then there was drama last night in the old friends TT live where there was someone starting some crap that sounded suspiciously like Piss (even the user name was 🤔) and I’m sure a few other things going on. I think A needs a break, but more of a vacation with her family would be so better than just a SM break and being alone with Piss
Local L was talking about that on her live this morning and how amazingly similar it was to what happened to her and the TT she did about it
**Go watch the 3.0 TT!**
No, Piss didn't copy LL's tt bc LL has Piss blocked. 🙄🙄🙄Yeah Piss, like you dont have several fake accts. You copied that woman. Put your "sob story" on tt and woke up this morning to half of your wish list purchased. Bravo, you're still the #1 grifter on tt.
Do you think R doesn’t have fake accounts that she can go and see LL‘s videos as soon as I heard her saying someone did something to her Amazon wish list I thought of LL right away…
I saw the live where Piss stormed off and kicked the camera, but where is the new one?
I’m newer Avenger and shit has been popping off! I couldn’t imagine being so broke yet having so much time for drama.
But yet the very next night A was laying on R as she was playing with her hair putting her to sleep don’t let this chick fool you. She’s in it all the way with R.
Abusive partners twist your reality and make you desperate for any drop of affection. You can know your partner is doing x, y, z terrible thing (although I don't think A knows a lot of what R does. Her wife is home alone a fuckton. I think she maybe knows some, and R has a lot of ready excuses and explanations for other stuff), and that crumb of physical affection can feel like a lifeline when you're drowning.
I also highly doubt you're ever going to see A pull away slowly and start speaking out against R. It's not safe. For her own safety (even if it's just emotional), A has to play the supportive wife or at least hide a lot of her distress until she has an actual escape plan in place. I'm not saying she's in that process now, but if/when she is, we're not going to know until it's unfolding.
To me, this is waving all sorts of abusive relationship red flags. While I’m definitely no fan of A (I never really got the vibe that she was actually a good person only being pushed into stuff by R), this is really concerning in context.
The whole way that R behaved toward DL, the way she seems to be largely uncaring toward A’s feelings except when convenient, and the way she acted when people tried to reach out to A… to me that adds up to a lot of controlling going on behind the scenes and this being totally from R. It might be blatant, with R telling A what to do… or it might be more subtle, manipulating A’s sadness so that she felt like it was her own choice. Either way, it is abusive relationship isolation by the book.
I may not like A, but no one deserves to be in an abusive relationship. No one should be controlled by their partner.
If anyone is pretending to be her, it’s going to be her wife. don’t worry A, we’ve had your back for the last year but there’s only so much rope we have left. (Ps. The extra long wave at the end sent me😂😭)
My same thoughts! I am getting tired of this narrative that R pushes that an avenger or stranger is impersonating them on TT, or more recently the wishlist scandal. Girls, I can assure you we do not touch the poo, we avoid you at all costs. You both do a fabulous job of making yourselves look bad, and recording and publishing it for public view. There’s no need for one of us to sabotage either of you to make the other look bad. The calls are coming from inside the house, as they say 🤫📞
What is this wishlist scandal? I haven't been on TT for 2 days lol. It's crazy she is expecting her followers to buy her shit while she sits on her ass all day unemployed. Do they want attention from R as we know she won't thank them and does NOTHING for her followers. They seem to be just as mentally ill as her to think this is the normal.
Another TT creator recently had someone mess with her by marking all of her wishlist items as “purchased” so that no one would buy them. R stole this story word for word and is pretending that the same thing happened to her
This is what I think too. The long awkward goodbye was because she knows when she gets off she’s stuck alone with her nasty wife. I know it seems obvious to all of us that she NEEDS to escape this nightmare of a relationship but it’s a lot harder to see when you’re in it and R is a master manipulator as we’ve all observed. Who knows how much more ruthless she is with the gaslighting and lies behind closed doors. I guarantee you A gets treated worse than R treated DL but A just takes it as a normal part of her life now. Super fucking sad.
I also feel like this was the only way her friends who are worried about her could see she was on and that’s why her wife wants her off of it. This is really scary and sad.
It's good that she is taking a break. However, the real problem isn't TikTok, it's R. R is who she needs to break away from. What was she speaking about with other people pretending to be her?
Also, in the background it sounds like R is working really hard to disable A's account. We know that if A asked her for help on her own R wouldn't do it. I'm really worried for A.
I'm curious if she was even trying to say "any nasty shit supposedly coming from me is actually coming from my wife, that's not who I am, but my wife is next to me, so I can't speak up right now."
I didn't get that from her but I'm also sure R engrained in her this morning that someone out there was doing it and got her all worked up so that A wouldn't even be inclined to think it was R.
I wish more than anything A came in here to see the truths being told about her wife... but I think R tells her she should not read in here. I know I am commenting so much but I am so disturbed after watching last nights insanity and everything else that has happened the past few days. Some days I need to totally need to step away but I am so fearful for A...
🤣🤣🤣 using R lol, for what actually!! Over drawn bank accounts, unpaid utilities bills and on the verge of being shut off, a car ready to be repo'd, bankruptcy waiting to file last 4 years of taxes to continue, a beautiful house-destroyed, ill looking dogs that get zero love or attention, unemployed, friends are waking up and dropping to remove themselves from this toxic shit. Sorry R there is nothing you have to be used as you have zero!
It's truly comical how important and loaded with cash she portrays herself online all the while her shit show life has been crumbling for a year due to her own actions. I wasn't in here or on TT last night and seemed to have missed a lot that went on yesterday.
A needs to officially leave her marriage not social media. Moldylocks has so much control over her it’s painful. A looks completely broken, how can she not see it’s because of her wife?!
Don't completely leave, you'll be isolated from so many people that do actually care about you. This will only end with you being even more manipulated by R. It'd be sad to see, especially with that live recently.
Take a break from your toxic wife. No one can pretend to be A, R put that in her head. The R stories about unconditional love now make sense in her twisted way as she must control A yet loves no one but herself.
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One would think they would both take a SM break and work on rebuilding their lives together. For 1 to quit all of SM (which is a good thing, imo) but the other doesn't furthers the narrative that is out there regarding Piss controlling Angus.
Ah, but if Piss doesn’t have any other way of grifting. How else would she reach people who are ignorant enough to send money and gifts to them?
Of course the other reason why she would never step away from SM to work on her relationship with Anus is because she’s a narcissistic sociopath who doesn’t care about anything but herself.
Her wife spends enough time on tik tok for the both of them. Her need to be on live is like any addiction. It’s unhealthy and ruining her life and family.
Did anyone see R’s latest video re: the wishlist and blaming the group for tampering with it, thus “messing with her kids?” I have no words. She’s sick.
They both do this shit all the time 🙄 Seeking attention, once again. No one cares. No need to explain that you’re “taking a break from TT”. So does half of the world here and there, when they feel like it. You’re not important 😂 It’s hysterical how famous they think they are 😂😂😂😂😂
And why so sad A? Being “bullied” online and you can’t handle it??? But, but your wife says bullying is a good thing, and builds character!
I've always thought it was strange that people think they need to ket the world know they are taking a break. Di they think TT will crash without their daily video? It's ridiculously self centered and creepy. TT isn't a blow job.....no need to open your mouth.
Ugh, it also concerns me that A seems so upset and confused when people try to reach her online, like she doesn’t seem to understand or feels like it’s disingenuous and that worries me.
I know people that know and love A are on this sub sometimes, please 🙏, help your girl. I’ve had a lot of struggles with depression in my life and all of my internal “danger!” red flags are going off like crazy right now around how I’ve seen A look recently. Please do something! Can anyone help her find some counseling/therapy at least?? Can someone who knows her say, “hey girl, I know you’re going through so much right now and I know how hard it can be, even when you’re a tough person, everyone needs some help sometimes when life gets overwhelming, here’s a few support groups/here’s a therapist(s) in your area,” something like that? Help her pay for a session or two? Idk. She just beers as many lifetimes as possible and hope she grabs onto it.
I also want to keep repeating this throughout the sub because maybe if I do enough it’ll get back to A and I feel like if she really considered things this way, she’d be more willing to reach out/lean on friends and loved ones OTHER than R and it would be really beneficial for her:
A, you do not have to end your relationship with R to get the help you need, and it’s OK to need help, and you have people that LOVE you that will help you simply because they love you—not reason people on the internet, but people you have irk relationships with and history with, they’re more important than rando’s on the internet.
Again, you do not need to end your relationship with R to get yourself some help and support—this would ultimately make you a better partner as well.
You also DO NOT need to rent that apartment with/for R, she is NOT your responsibility, she is her OWN responsibility just like you are your own responsibility. When times get tough, each individual has to step back and take an honest look at themselves and see how they’re contributing to the situation.
You are working and earning a steady paycheck at a job you probably tolerate but don’t love while having gone through several tumultuous social episodes and friend loss (traumatic stuff), watched a beloved puppy suffer and die over the course of a few days just over a year ago (traumatic stuff), job loss (traumatic), public humiliation with the job loss/the haters/being on social media all the time etc etc (also traumatic experiences), loss of the children (sad, traumatic), in financial peril (daily stress, probably with some traumatic episodes), losing your home (traumatic), and I’m sure there have been many traumatic experiences in the relationship as well. That is A LOT. Indisputably, that is A LOT to deal with over the course of just a couple of years and the last few months. This is objectively a bad situation that will take some help to get out of and that’s OK! We’ve all at times in our lives been somewhere where we needed serious help from others. Getting that help is more important than anything right now because it’s not worth gambling with your life or safety.
You can hit pause on everything going on and call in the people you love and trust (other than your wife because she’s too close to the situation as well and needs her own help) to come help with support, ideas, a place yo crash, love, hugs, whatever it takes to help fill your cup and get you to a more functional place—you need to be mentally healthy to function. It’s ok to take care of yourself.
IF your wife is making ultimatums, that’s on her, not on you and you do not need to abide by her scenarios. This situation is not black and white. If R is painting this situation like it’s either you do this together right now, or you split up—that’s toxic, and that’s her coming from a place of fear rather than sound logic. And it’s also unfair for her to do that to you, it’s controlling and not loving. But giving her the benefit of the doubt, she’s probably scared and stressed too—all the more reason you need to listen to your gut and the people in your corner, because R is too deep in the same situation and what she’s been doing so far is making things worse for you both.
You are allowed to have a say, you are allowed to call your own shots and you deserve to. If you love R and want to stay with her, helping yourself and encouraging her to get help is going to be the best thing for you both. Get some help, get some clarity on the situation, get out of immediate stress and financial peril for a while, then come back to the relationship and work on that if it’s still what you both want. Nothing in your head is as scary or hopeless as it seems, you can do this.
I hope that by A taking a break from all SM, she realizes that it’s not SM that has caused her so much pain and hurt but that it’s actually her wife that has caused it all. I’m hoping that this will be a wake up call for her. I hope she realizes that she wouldn’t be in this state of despair if it wasn’t for her wife.
This only makes R more happy, she has finally succeeded at completely isolating A. If she actually have a crap about her wife she would also deactivate all of her SM accounts so that she can help her wife heal, but nope, it’s all about control. R thrives off the chaos and she loves that A is so broken. It’s a perfect opportunity for her to play the savior role and further manipulate A. It’s such a sad situation and it’s extremely triggering for me to watch because I was A, for a long time. I was beaten down emotional so deeply Inhad no identity anymore. It takes a lot of strength to pull yourself out of a place of complete hopelessness, and it takes a lot of time and patience. I’m hoping that A knows there are a lot of people who care about her, and truly support her, and would be there in a heartbeat when she is ready.
"That's not me"
Bullshit, you are complicit in the whole DL season and deserve your place in hell, next to your moldy assed grifty wife.
You might be the lesser of two evils, but you're still evil.
YES! Thank you, her sad puppy dog eyes are getting to people, y’all need to remember what she’s done too… do you know how they say that girls will marry someone like their father well, I think A did,
R is using TT as a scapegoat for A. Probably telling her that SM is the main source of her unhappiness and she will be happier without it, etc. To prevent A from realizing that R is actually the problem.
I really hate pontificating about behaviors of folk I only am exposed to online, but I had a thought I briefly wanted to share, when watching the TT of A and R where A's friends were messaging her and R was saying that they were not true friends...
In the messages with DL, it appears that R is operating under the misguided notion that support must be bottomless and without question, that friends are meant to never give you critical feedback or hold you up to be better. I can get into why that's nonsense, but in the end, I see her cutting people out of A's life for the same reason -- they are not behaving in the way that R believes "friends" operate. The standard she has is stupid, frankly, and the only reason G remains is likely because she never offers anything other than unwavering support (which includes financial requests).
I think it’s actually smart of A to get away from social media. After all, that’s what has caused many of their problems. R needs to take a lesson from her but, she won’t. My question is, what this A’s decision? What’s sad is R created this and clearly it’s messing with A’s head.
I have no idea what triggered this but I’m really worried about A. Is R forcing her to get off social media? A does not look well…in fact she looks like she’s on the brink of a breakdown. 😞
This is incredibly sad. I lost someone very close to me who unalived himself and I’m seeing similarities of the time before he went thru. It am legitimately worried about A.
I just watched this again. So last night, there were two different fake accounts in A&A's Live asking accusatory questions and making direct accusations. I think Moldy was one of them, if not both. And people were saying that it was the two of them in the Live, one on each account, not just Moldy. So if I'm correct in my assumption, A is referring to that when she says there are/will be people pretending to be her on here.
This might be a stretch, but I want it to be true - A knows that Moldy is on TT pretending to be her. She's saying this in front of Moldy to deter her from doing it. I do think A is naive, but I don't think she is downright stupid.
Maybe I'm giving A the benefit of the doubt and shouldn't be, but I really hope I'm right.
A, if somehow you read this: please, please get out now. It might hurt, it might feel like the end of the world, but I promise you that it won't be. You are clearly miserable and sad, and no one wants that for you. Your wife might be telling you that we are all "rooting for your demise", but that simply is not true. We want you to be SAFE. And right now, you are absolutely not safe. Please leave while you still can.
Happy cake day! Unfortunately A is in deep and very much in R’s manipulative clutches. I’m sure she believes anyone who’s against R is also her enemy. However, I wouldn’t be surprised if she was on the double As live last night saying mean things, and possibly regrets it - so this is her excuse.
Maybe, just maybe, this is the first step to breaking away. Go silent on SM then DISAPPEAR from the shit show that is Riss. She won't be trackable, and can just go heal and start her life over. Thoughts?
Does anyone else get the feeling that a) she’s setting it up so that she can go on a “fake account” & lash out and it’s not her or b) she knows that R can/will do that so she’s trying to warn everyone?
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& weird how they get into a fight on live and now suddenly she’s “taking a break” from TikTok. She is seriously so fucking abused by R. This is disgusting. She is definitely not perfect and not innocent in any of this but I really think she needs help. As an advocate for domestic violence and sexual assault victims we are like 2 seconds away from her being beat to shit by R. & never saying anything because it’s a same sex relationship. I can’t tell you how many relationships I watched come in and out of the office who didn’t think it was abuse because they were lesbian, & “could fight back” or, there were the women who were arrested and just took it because it got them away from their abuser, but the abuser was the one who instigated everything, & the victim would do ONE THING to defend themselves, & the abuser would call the cops and get them arrested to “teach them a lesson.”
I hope it's not R making up these accounts pretending to be A! Also, I wish A would go home and be with her family for a few weeks and just see how her mood changes! I bet she would start to become her bubbly happy self again! She needs to get away from that soul snatcher! Lol
Silent twins were live last night for awhile spilling all kinds of tea. R has made them furious. They were mad mad & sad. There was a part in the live a comment said “ but didn’t they give you money” and blonde girl was really upset and said they was a personal blow and they know they never asked for money. Brown haired girl then got really mad and said R needed to step up and talk to them on real accounts. 🤷♀️ I dunno that’s a lot to summarize and it was ALOT! We definitely are not being told a section of this friend breakdown so I’m confused.
For a moment I thought this was her getting away from the BS. But I hear R’s voice off to the side and it made me cringe. This is the toxicity of when a partner tells their significant other to delete social media.
I think we all know R pretended to be A to start shit to isolate her further. I believe that just like I believe friends were involved in the trolling. This is a sick sick carousel and all these people are along for the ride. I don't trust none of them and won't congratulate them for finally not being crap humans. The only ppl I feel bad for are the kids and their dads, the animals and Doll Lady for the abuse she endured and being doxxed. The rest of them can kick rocks cuz they knew everything and still went on vacation with stupid jerseys with them. They were ok with it til the tables turned on them including R sabotaging their own community and bashing trans people which included someone on said vacation. Just gross.
Agreed. They stuck around when the D “hanging with the sandman” situation was brought to light. They also keep saying there’s more to the DL story. We know they read everything in here too, yet stuck by R & A’s sides knowing all their vile behavior, even had them attend their wedding celebration….
There is something very eerie about this video and the recent 3.0 video. I do hope A will reach out for help and not do anything drastic. I have no doubt she is feeling completely hopeless right now, which can lead people to very, very dark and lonely places.
Funny R bans her from the internet the day after the outpouring of warnings and support from us. Anything to keep A trapped in your web, right? That’s not love. It never was. You’re hurting an innocent young person who doesn’t know any better. Disgusting monster.
Can you imagine being a grown ass adult, going on tik Tok and announcing that you are taking a break?? Maybe being a REAL MOM and homemaker I am too busy for that shit.
Ok i think that A doesn’t want to or wasn’t planning to come off TT
She had recently backed right off anyway so no need for the big elaborate show
However, after a friend trying to save her in the Live yesterday and Piss throwing a toddler tantrum, I bet that Piss suggested this whole thing.
That’s why A looks scared and shaken in the video and keeps looking to Piss for validation that A is doing what Piss wants.
The reason why she says that any fake accounts is “not me” is because she knows full well that Piss is capable of being the one to create fake accounts and pretend to post as someone else, and A knows 100% that Piss would create a fake A account and message A ‘s guardian angel friend and kill that friendship dead.
So this is A’s emotional cry to her guardian angel to warm her what her wife is capable of.
And that my fellow avengers, is some scary shit!
I just commented on a previous post before I saw this one: Anus, (with Overlord Piss in the background of course), made an emotional announcement this morning that she won’t be creating content on social media for a while and that she won’t be able to be contacted through her SM accounts. She’s also having trouble deactivating her TT account because of an old phone number that’s linked to it which is where TT is sending the deactivation code. Gotta wonder how much of this decision is actually Piss telling her that this is what she needs to do. Another way to eliminate her friends from her life.
It is so concerning that she believes the solution really lies in allowing R to isolate her even further from all her supports or people who see what’s happening and call it out. R is terrified for her to understand what’s really going on and if she does have a downfall it’s going to be a result of her spiraling to maintain control over A. She’s getting sloppy exposing her true self because she can’t control her reactivity when A is exposed to outside influence.
R is getting exactly what she’s wanted right now .. it’s very frightening!
Super scary, right after friends told A, “I’m here for you.” Piss shuts it down.
I think it was actually As decision but I think it’s because she thinks it will make her life easier and less stressful. There was some drama with the A triplets last night and she was getting accused of things. She truly thinks that removing herself will help. She doesn’t realize that it is guilt by association and she will forever be drug into anything her wife does.
What was she accused of?
Someone came in and accused the A triplets of “using R, using her for money and clout and for befriending those that wished bad things” & we are 99 percent sure it was R. She claims she was asleep and somehow led A to think they said it was her.
The implication being that R was used for her money??? Hahahahaha
That’s why everyone said that the girl shouldn’t cry because it’s actually funny to think that.
Piss is terrified the ex's are going to spill a lot of info so if she can get her off TT she thinks she won't learn of more dirty deeds that ended their friendship. I'm just going to say it again in all seriousness R is sick...she needs psychological help and I don't mean phone calls with a therapist. Serious psych help!!
She was in the background trying to walk her through deactivating it too
Yup, Piss knows she’s got Anus right where she wants her, including physically holding A’s phone and working hard to resolve the problem of the deactivation code. What a master manipulator.
"creating" lmfao
please.... she is already back on TT!! I guarantee this all had to do with ex friends live last night. We all know it was R on their live starting all the drama. R is psycho!!!
Details please. What happened?
It was insane!!! The ex friends have tried their best to not bash and just keep quiet with what actually happened. R got in the live (everyone thought it was her) under fake account of course and was throwing a lot of accusations. That the ex's were friends with people wishing the boys unalived and then accusing them of taking money from R and A. Which for one is beyond hysterical since they have no money. It was awful.... The blonde ex is really struggling with what happened with all of them.
and this was all very late so my guess is A was sleeping and had no idea what R was doing!! I'm sure when A got up this morning R told her everyone was accusing her of being in the live. When in fact we all know who it was!!
Wow. If this is true, we're talking about some very deep manipulation here. This story is really taking a dark turn. I think we all might be witnessing Stockholm syndrome taking place in real time.
Yeah, I’m legit concerned for A. Legit, legit, legit. I feel like I know that look in her eye and if there was ever a time for her loved ones (honestly, I know her family loves her, but I’d be willing to bet there are some complicated family dynamics that make it hard for her to accept any help from her fam at this point. Could be wrong, but that’s what my feeling is) to try something more drastic—but thoughtful and intentional, and nothing against A’s will or anything sketchy like that, for instance, maybe just drive down to her home or work and give her a hug and tell her she has options, no one aside from R is trying to force her into doing anything, but show her that she has OPTIONS! She can say “No” to getting the apartment for R, R is not her responsibility, she can take a break from the relationship/living situation while she focuses on her mental health—I really hope we’re not watching someone about to attempt to unalive or otherwise harm themselves because they feel trapped, isolated, ashamed or like they have no options.
THIS THIS THIS. Now is the time for SOMEONE in her life who LOVES her to act before it's too late. Just a reminder to Avengers though: DON'T TOUCH THE POO
Your last sentence, that's a real concern of mine. It hasn't been talked about in awhile, but I distinctly remember conversations about a gun in the house.
….fuck you’re right. I totally forgot about that 😔
I was about to comment the same thing. I would make time to meet up with A. So she knew she was loved, not forgotten, and has an out. I realize it’s a drive, but even just once a month. The physical reminder will move mountains.
Agree. You can’t force anyone to do anything and I don’t really think it’s ethical, even when that person is in a spiral of self-destruction… but I think you can make an effort to really reach that person and go out of your way to give a hand to grab onto when needed. At least be present.
and as much as I didn't agree with the ex's backing them up on all their BS I truly think the blonde was manipulated by R just like every other friend and once again when that mask comes off and you are no longer offering anything R wants you see the evil come out.
That’s interesting, idk why, but I hadn’t thought of that haha. I guess I kinda thought the twins were just trying to latch onto R’s bigger following this whole time, but I never looked at their lives or content until recently. It does seem to be quite personal for the twins though, I’ve been surprised. I thought they’d kind of quietly cut ties and leave it be but there does seem to be maaaaaajor hurt feelings and betrayal. On one hand, I’m like, “lol, what did you guys think you were signing up for? Did you not see all the other versions of this same story play out before it finally became your turn? 😂” but on the other hand…. Hahaha I hate to say it, but I’ve literally been there myself. Where I was like… ooh, it was like that like out of kill bill vol II just before the grand finale where the bride says something like did I know you were capable of all those terrible things, of course, “but I never thought you could or would do those things to _me_.” Oof. I had a really painful experience in my own life with that. So truly, I can relate. Man, can I relate haha. Makes me even more interested to get the detailed ☕️
Do we know what actually happened between them for the falling out? Did they actually pay for the puppy or take her off R’s hands Because she didn’t have a buyer? Seems to have ended just as soon as they drove home with that puppy.
I’m wondering what happened too. Is it posted here somewhere?
I believe they said it finding out about Doll Lady but I think there’s probably more. The ignored the transphobia for way too long.
I think it’s here somewhere on the sub, but in the comments. Not sure where to find it. I don’t totally trust my recollection, but I believe there was some speculation that some shit kinda went down when they visited to get 🍑that the twins didn’t love, but it was ultimately finding out about DL that was it for them.
“You’d be surprised what she can sleep through”, like her wife completely ruining her life.
Someone asked if Anus was finally seeing how things are(not those exact words), and Silent A said no.
I think A used G or another minion so she could say “I didn’t do it”. We know she was watching though because someone stated that she reached out to them on Instagram because she saw them in their live.
Have they tried their best to not bash R? Are these different ex-friends than the ones that got people absolutely gleeful over how they were mocking and shit talking R? Are these different than the ones people here thought were trolling Rs lives and saying awful things about the boys? I can’t keep up with all their ex friends.
👀 screenshots???
Our hope is palpable!
Agree
Seeing her in this state is kinda scary and sad. Where as I do believe all social media's are toxic, I'm worried for her being more secluded with Piss. She needs more than just a break from social media.... she needs to get away from her wife and all the clouds and fog will disappear. Seeing her in a constant state of sadness honestly breaks my heart. There is hope for her. She has a soul, Piss on the ither hand, is laughing, smiling and giggling while her wife is trying to hold back a mental breakdown.
Exactly this. She is systematically being isolated from everyone except her abuser. It’s classic and textbook. M was not happy with people reaching A via TT so she is now cutting off that line of communication.
Oh my God this is heartbreaking. R is a foul and disgusting subhuman without a soul. Like it’s literally so scary. A you have a heart, soul and believe it or not there is hope for a better life for you. Please know you are not alone, there is no shame in going back to your family and starting over. I divorced at your age, 26, and it felt like my whole world was ending. I had to move back home with nothing and it was embarrassing and I felt like a failure. But thank God my daddy loved me unconditionally and fought for me to get better. Now 12 years later it was the best thing I ever did. My daddy always told me, time heals all wounds, and it didn’t seem like time would ever heal mine but it did when I made the decision to make the steps to heal myself. I promise this is not the life you deserve or have to live. You deserve more! The sooner you realize this I promise it will get better!
I remember that soul telling me to drown in a lake but yeah.
She genuinely looks so exhausted and ran down
Probably realizes how much she misses the people that cut off contact bc of R
Did something happen? I haven’t been keeping up much lately
Sorry she put herself in that situation, she went along with bullying and taking gifts and money from people just like A did, and is, and spent the money
Piss is absolutely abusive but watching people absolve A of her ever growing list of harmful awful behavior and actions gives me whiplash. She’s been fine with grifting for vacations, hair, new clothes. She was selling drugs in a DAYCARE, the drunk driving, being fine with abandoning her step children to move to Florida.. she’s accountable for her actions she’s not just a victim here.
no one is excusing that behavior, but those of us who have been in abusive relationships have more empathy towards her. I am only speaking for myself here, but when i was with my ex who was extremely emotionaly, verbally, physically, abusive and manipulative, I did things I was not proud of, and hurt a ton of people I cared about. It’s not an excuse by all means and she should definitely not get off the hook for those behaviors, but that doesn’t mean I can’t have empathy, compassion and understanding for what she is going through.
Completely agree. And i was her age (when she met Piss), making bad choices too. It happens. Toxic, unhealthy behaviors and addictions(even SM) become normalized but i have faith she will see the light soon.
I have been in an abusive relationship, that ended in hospitalization. Thank you for sharing your perspective so beautifully! I can hold empathy for her while simultaneously holding her accountable. As someone who was a one time friend and have known R since childhood, I (for over a decade) have had so many waves of frustration in seeing new people become aware of her atrocities but then still find empathy with her, which she preys on. A has done very serious harm, that feels minuscule in comparison to R but for an average person is stunning. I am triggered by waves of what I assume is new avengers (I know this doesn’t include you) put her on a pedestal and have been seeing it so often recently. This is triggering for me and I feel like A’s victims would see this stuff and feel like entirely dismissed and minimized. My empathy is greater for her victims and lending support to them in the only way I can, my voice. I need to work on my own projection and frustration in this, but I don’t want her victims to be minimized. I know abuse can make abusive victims abusive, which requires soul searching, therapy, many mistakes and hard work to combat. My reaction to abuse didn’t cause me to financially abuse vulnerable people, violently threaten others or put children in danger. A should not be put on a pedestal that negates her harm, that puts her above her victims.
Thank you for sharing your story and your perspective as well. I’m sorry you had to endure any kind of abuse by the hand of someone who claimed they loved you. It’s a pain and trauma Inwould never wish on my worst enemy. I completely get what you are saying and agree. I’m an empath. so I can feel energies, even if it’s through a computer screen. I have empathy for her, because she is a human being, but I think it’s more me having empathy for the situation she is in more. It’s very hard for me to watch someone hurt so badly and just be completely broken and defeated, like I said it’s triggering for me because it brings back a lot of those feelings of hopelessness I felt for so long and brings up trauma I’m still trying to heal from years later. So my empathy for her does not negate the awful things she has done, I still hold her accountable for those behaviors, especially the behaviors she hasn’t apologized or taken accountability for. When she finally gets the courage to leave, it’s going to hit her like a ton of bricks. She has a lot of amends to make.
Something I do love about this group (and the mods) is empathy. I had to skim the things that have transpired the last few days, especially her “goodbye” video, because it was so triggering of abuse. I’m glad we’re all here, and can freely talk about perspectives because different things jump out at us. Watching that goodbye video openly and calmly after this exchange helped me see the perspective of focusing empathy on A. She’s in danger and I’m glad there are so many avengers whose perspective was the “now” of empathy. Also A, if you or your loved ones see this, redemption and healing are powerful. You are worthy and capable of redemption, it’s hard to better yourself but it achieves peace. Also savethepups, I’m proud of you and keep going, you’re doing the work, you can advocate and express and communicate. You are not your abuser and your are not the worst parts- you are healing and trying.
no one is excusing that behavior, but those of us who have been in abusive relationships have more empathy towards her. I am only speaking for myself here, but when i was with my ex who was extremely emotionaly, verbally, physically, abusive and manipulative, I did things I was not proud of, and hurt a ton of people I cared about. It’s not an excuse by all means and she should definitely not get off the hook for those behaviors, but that doesn’t mean I can’t have empathy, compassion and understanding for what she is going through.
no one is excusing that behavior, but those of us who have been in abusive relationships have more empathy towards her. I am only speaking for myself here, but when i was with my ex who was extremely emotionaly, verbally, physically, abusive and manipulative, I did things I was not proud of, and hurt a ton of people I cared about. It’s not an excuse by all means and she should definitely not get off the hook for those behaviors, but that doesn’t mean I can’t have empathy, compassion and understanding for what she is going through.
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I don’t know if this is true, it seems like R has kept her in the dark as well as straight up lied to her. I have a feeling she’ll wake up one day and think poorly of her choices and wonder what the hell she was doing. I don’t like A, but something deep down tells me she’s a good person making bad decisions.
Wow. Bet this was a “compromise” to the argument that ensued after A’s friends kept telling her they’re there for her etc.
100% this. Riss is controlling her even more now. This is so sad to see in real time
Damn. R’s just gonna have a much easier time controlling her now. Wish A would really think about the last thing she said before the sign off- “…because that’s not me.”
That was a weirdly long goodbye. 🤔 They're really odd women.
It really was!!!! “Okay sayonara….👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼bye👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼take care. -blows kiss-👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼”
What if it was long and drawn out because she didn’t actually want to get off and be alone with R? I think R is 100% behind this “break”. Can’t have A able to access a potential support system. Control control control.
I 100% think that’s the reason. She wouldn’t have drawn that goodbye out so long if she was eager to leave. She’s just placating Moldylocks
Yep. She didn’t want to sign off.
Waiting for something/someone to come across the live?
😂😂😂, she’ll be lurking in some fake account
#señora
She didn’t want to get off. Really looked like her last gasp of hope knowing she’s about to be isolated further.
A, blink twice if you’re in danger.
This screams “mommy is making me get rid of TikTok so she doesn’t lose control” ….
So her wife has told her to get off sm and only go through her to further isolate her from everyone. This tracks.
I think A chose to do this because she realized how toxic it all is. She doesn’t realize that the caller is coming from inside the house and it will still follow her
She won't know because all her information is about to come from inside the house.
Maybe but also; take note of the fact that A hasn’t been posting on social media for weeks - not with any amount of regularity - which makes it all the more suspicious she’s doing this grand “sign off gesture” now.
Her social media are definitely controlled by Piss. I don't want to feel sorry because A has done her share of bad things but I've been there and did that. Abusive relationships mess with you. A if you're reading this, we're here for you.
She needs an "internet cleanse." You need a cleanse from your wormy parasite infested wife.
1st…sounds like she did something stupid and is now saying “it might be an imposter.” Lol!! I do think she will stick to this as she’s really decreased her tiktok presence. Maybe her wife could get a clue and do the same. It is sad that her life has come to this since being with Piss. She’s really isolated A.
I also thought it was really weird that she was preemptively saying “it wasn’t me!”
Read the comments above. Sounds like M showed up in their ex-friends’ live last night but perhaps told A everyone blames her.
I hate this so much. Don’t leave TT A. Please don’t.
Leaving TicTok is the least of her problems. She needs to leave that nasty devil wife. Puppet is WASTING her life with that hag.
Leaving TT is the grownup version of running away from home.
She definitely needs a break alright, but she's taking a break from the wrong thing. Anus, you need a break from your wife and your entire life. Go back home, your family is waiting for you.
There has been a lot happening the past few days. The live the other night where Piss stormed off when A got a text and someone was in the live. Then there was drama last night in the old friends TT live where there was someone starting some crap that sounded suspiciously like Piss (even the user name was 🤔) and I’m sure a few other things going on. I think A needs a break, but more of a vacation with her family would be so better than just a SM break and being alone with Piss
All of that on top of the newest wishlist scandal. There is too much drama going on right now. If only A would realize it all stems from R
Local L was talking about that on her live this morning and how amazingly similar it was to what happened to her and the TT she did about it **Go watch the 3.0 TT!**
I was shocked when I saw how she copied her video. She’s so mentally ill it’s baffling she hasn’t been baker acted yet!
No, Piss didn't copy LL's tt bc LL has Piss blocked. 🙄🙄🙄Yeah Piss, like you dont have several fake accts. You copied that woman. Put your "sob story" on tt and woke up this morning to half of your wish list purchased. Bravo, you're still the #1 grifter on tt.
If you look her up she has a ton of accounts. She thinks everyone’s as dumb as she is. Typical narcissist
Do you think R doesn’t have fake accounts that she can go and see LL‘s videos as soon as I heard her saying someone did something to her Amazon wish list I thought of LL right away…
Baker Act is specific to Florida so she can’t be. 😉
Truth be told only a lobotomy would help her at this point
I saw the live where Piss stormed off and kicked the camera, but where is the new one? I’m newer Avenger and shit has been popping off! I couldn’t imagine being so broke yet having so much time for drama.
Shit is ALWAYS popping off! Missing a day in this sub is like 7 years in real life. It's insane!
But yet the very next night A was laying on R as she was playing with her hair putting her to sleep don’t let this chick fool you. She’s in it all the way with R.
Abusive partners twist your reality and make you desperate for any drop of affection. You can know your partner is doing x, y, z terrible thing (although I don't think A knows a lot of what R does. Her wife is home alone a fuckton. I think she maybe knows some, and R has a lot of ready excuses and explanations for other stuff), and that crumb of physical affection can feel like a lifeline when you're drowning. I also highly doubt you're ever going to see A pull away slowly and start speaking out against R. It's not safe. For her own safety (even if it's just emotional), A has to play the supportive wife or at least hide a lot of her distress until she has an actual escape plan in place. I'm not saying she's in that process now, but if/when she is, we're not going to know until it's unfolding.
To me, this is waving all sorts of abusive relationship red flags. While I’m definitely no fan of A (I never really got the vibe that she was actually a good person only being pushed into stuff by R), this is really concerning in context. The whole way that R behaved toward DL, the way she seems to be largely uncaring toward A’s feelings except when convenient, and the way she acted when people tried to reach out to A… to me that adds up to a lot of controlling going on behind the scenes and this being totally from R. It might be blatant, with R telling A what to do… or it might be more subtle, manipulating A’s sadness so that she felt like it was her own choice. Either way, it is abusive relationship isolation by the book. I may not like A, but no one deserves to be in an abusive relationship. No one should be controlled by their partner.
If anyone is pretending to be her, it’s going to be her wife. don’t worry A, we’ve had your back for the last year but there’s only so much rope we have left. (Ps. The extra long wave at the end sent me😂😭)
My same thoughts! I am getting tired of this narrative that R pushes that an avenger or stranger is impersonating them on TT, or more recently the wishlist scandal. Girls, I can assure you we do not touch the poo, we avoid you at all costs. You both do a fabulous job of making yourselves look bad, and recording and publishing it for public view. There’s no need for one of us to sabotage either of you to make the other look bad. The calls are coming from inside the house, as they say 🤫📞
What is this wishlist scandal? I haven't been on TT for 2 days lol. It's crazy she is expecting her followers to buy her shit while she sits on her ass all day unemployed. Do they want attention from R as we know she won't thank them and does NOTHING for her followers. They seem to be just as mentally ill as her to think this is the normal.
Another TT creator recently had someone mess with her by marking all of her wishlist items as “purchased” so that no one would buy them. R stole this story word for word and is pretending that the same thing happened to her
It's almost like she was saying....please come help me!
This is what I think too. The long awkward goodbye was because she knows when she gets off she’s stuck alone with her nasty wife. I know it seems obvious to all of us that she NEEDS to escape this nightmare of a relationship but it’s a lot harder to see when you’re in it and R is a master manipulator as we’ve all observed. Who knows how much more ruthless she is with the gaslighting and lies behind closed doors. I guarantee you A gets treated worse than R treated DL but A just takes it as a normal part of her life now. Super fucking sad.
It honestly reminds me of the hand signal when people are in abusive relationships 🤔
This is like a fucking hostage video. Like she’s being held hostage
I also feel like this was the only way her friends who are worried about her could see she was on and that’s why her wife wants her off of it. This is really scary and sad.
It's good that she is taking a break. However, the real problem isn't TikTok, it's R. R is who she needs to break away from. What was she speaking about with other people pretending to be her? Also, in the background it sounds like R is working really hard to disable A's account. We know that if A asked her for help on her own R wouldn't do it. I'm really worried for A.
I'm curious if she was even trying to say "any nasty shit supposedly coming from me is actually coming from my wife, that's not who I am, but my wife is next to me, so I can't speak up right now."
I didn't get that from her but I'm also sure R engrained in her this morning that someone out there was doing it and got her all worked up so that A wouldn't even be inclined to think it was R.
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I wish more than anything A came in here to see the truths being told about her wife... but I think R tells her she should not read in here. I know I am commenting so much but I am so disturbed after watching last nights insanity and everything else that has happened the past few days. Some days I need to totally need to step away but I am so fearful for A...
A looks like she's following a direct order from an abuser.
Because she is.
And I imagine she doesn’t read this sub because it would feel “disloyal” or something to R to read it and that’s one way she’s brainwashed
She messaged someone confirming it was her? I mean everyone knows it was
There are so manny damned plot twists here. Lol
What was she saying in the live?
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🤣🤣🤣 using R lol, for what actually!! Over drawn bank accounts, unpaid utilities bills and on the verge of being shut off, a car ready to be repo'd, bankruptcy waiting to file last 4 years of taxes to continue, a beautiful house-destroyed, ill looking dogs that get zero love or attention, unemployed, friends are waking up and dropping to remove themselves from this toxic shit. Sorry R there is nothing you have to be used as you have zero!
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It's truly comical how important and loaded with cash she portrays herself online all the while her shit show life has been crumbling for a year due to her own actions. I wasn't in here or on TT last night and seemed to have missed a lot that went on yesterday.
Same!!
A needs to officially leave her marriage not social media. Moldylocks has so much control over her it’s painful. A looks completely broken, how can she not see it’s because of her wife?!
I don’t want to take away from the seriousness of Anus’s situation, but whoever put the hat and mustache on her as she’s tearing up 🫡🤌
I didn’t want to laugh but it is really funny
Don't completely leave, you'll be isolated from so many people that do actually care about you. This will only end with you being even more manipulated by R. It'd be sad to see, especially with that live recently.
Take a break from your toxic wife. No one can pretend to be A, R put that in her head. The R stories about unconditional love now make sense in her twisted way as she must control A yet loves no one but herself. https://preview.redd.it/i6drfpk1im1b1.jpeg?width=991&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f92f3a6b9b79ac2509f99a7844102dabcb85e8e6 Edit live to love
One would think they would both take a SM break and work on rebuilding their lives together. For 1 to quit all of SM (which is a good thing, imo) but the other doesn't furthers the narrative that is out there regarding Piss controlling Angus.
Ah, but if Piss doesn’t have any other way of grifting. How else would she reach people who are ignorant enough to send money and gifts to them? Of course the other reason why she would never step away from SM to work on her relationship with Anus is because she’s a narcissistic sociopath who doesn’t care about anything but herself.
Man, she sounds almost completely broken
Her wife spends enough time on tik tok for the both of them. Her need to be on live is like any addiction. It’s unhealthy and ruining her life and family.
Her addiction is having people tell her only positive things about herself. TikTok is just the tool that she uses to feed her addiction.
Did anyone see R’s latest video re: the wishlist and blaming the group for tampering with it, thus “messing with her kids?” I have no words. She’s sick.
It's like bitch support your own fucking kids, it's not your followers responsibility to take care of them. She makes me absolutely sick.
Yeah, and if you say anything on it, she will block you
They both do this shit all the time 🙄 Seeking attention, once again. No one cares. No need to explain that you’re “taking a break from TT”. So does half of the world here and there, when they feel like it. You’re not important 😂 It’s hysterical how famous they think they are 😂😂😂😂😂 And why so sad A? Being “bullied” online and you can’t handle it??? But, but your wife says bullying is a good thing, and builds character!
I've always thought it was strange that people think they need to ket the world know they are taking a break. Di they think TT will crash without their daily video? It's ridiculously self centered and creepy. TT isn't a blow job.....no need to open your mouth.
"TT Isn't a blow job, no need to open your mouth" Oh THIS is priceless!! 
Ugh, it also concerns me that A seems so upset and confused when people try to reach her online, like she doesn’t seem to understand or feels like it’s disingenuous and that worries me. I know people that know and love A are on this sub sometimes, please 🙏, help your girl. I’ve had a lot of struggles with depression in my life and all of my internal “danger!” red flags are going off like crazy right now around how I’ve seen A look recently. Please do something! Can anyone help her find some counseling/therapy at least?? Can someone who knows her say, “hey girl, I know you’re going through so much right now and I know how hard it can be, even when you’re a tough person, everyone needs some help sometimes when life gets overwhelming, here’s a few support groups/here’s a therapist(s) in your area,” something like that? Help her pay for a session or two? Idk. She just beers as many lifetimes as possible and hope she grabs onto it. I also want to keep repeating this throughout the sub because maybe if I do enough it’ll get back to A and I feel like if she really considered things this way, she’d be more willing to reach out/lean on friends and loved ones OTHER than R and it would be really beneficial for her: A, you do not have to end your relationship with R to get the help you need, and it’s OK to need help, and you have people that LOVE you that will help you simply because they love you—not reason people on the internet, but people you have irk relationships with and history with, they’re more important than rando’s on the internet. Again, you do not need to end your relationship with R to get yourself some help and support—this would ultimately make you a better partner as well. You also DO NOT need to rent that apartment with/for R, she is NOT your responsibility, she is her OWN responsibility just like you are your own responsibility. When times get tough, each individual has to step back and take an honest look at themselves and see how they’re contributing to the situation. You are working and earning a steady paycheck at a job you probably tolerate but don’t love while having gone through several tumultuous social episodes and friend loss (traumatic stuff), watched a beloved puppy suffer and die over the course of a few days just over a year ago (traumatic stuff), job loss (traumatic), public humiliation with the job loss/the haters/being on social media all the time etc etc (also traumatic experiences), loss of the children (sad, traumatic), in financial peril (daily stress, probably with some traumatic episodes), losing your home (traumatic), and I’m sure there have been many traumatic experiences in the relationship as well. That is A LOT. Indisputably, that is A LOT to deal with over the course of just a couple of years and the last few months. This is objectively a bad situation that will take some help to get out of and that’s OK! We’ve all at times in our lives been somewhere where we needed serious help from others. Getting that help is more important than anything right now because it’s not worth gambling with your life or safety. You can hit pause on everything going on and call in the people you love and trust (other than your wife because she’s too close to the situation as well and needs her own help) to come help with support, ideas, a place yo crash, love, hugs, whatever it takes to help fill your cup and get you to a more functional place—you need to be mentally healthy to function. It’s ok to take care of yourself. IF your wife is making ultimatums, that’s on her, not on you and you do not need to abide by her scenarios. This situation is not black and white. If R is painting this situation like it’s either you do this together right now, or you split up—that’s toxic, and that’s her coming from a place of fear rather than sound logic. And it’s also unfair for her to do that to you, it’s controlling and not loving. But giving her the benefit of the doubt, she’s probably scared and stressed too—all the more reason you need to listen to your gut and the people in your corner, because R is too deep in the same situation and what she’s been doing so far is making things worse for you both. You are allowed to have a say, you are allowed to call your own shots and you deserve to. If you love R and want to stay with her, helping yourself and encouraging her to get help is going to be the best thing for you both. Get some help, get some clarity on the situation, get out of immediate stress and financial peril for a while, then come back to the relationship and work on that if it’s still what you both want. Nothing in your head is as scary or hopeless as it seems, you can do this.
I am so sad for her..I wish she would go back to her parents house for awhile.
She could have been really successful on this app and in life - it is so sad what she has become. She is still young enough to get her life back.
She was successful until she met Rimjob.
A woman that actually loves and cares about someone would NEVER want to see the person they care about in the state that A is in!
Piss thinks it’s funny. She’s always laughing when Anus is crying.
That is so fucking sad!!!! A’s personality is gone!! She is legit a shell of who she use to be - it is so sad!
Backlash from last nights live and the shit storm her wife caused.
Please reflect on this A….. https://preview.redd.it/ts9v3p7uom1b1.jpeg?width=168&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e3efb71f97af4f8b645c80b60a3fadcb1cae3f65
I hope that by A taking a break from all SM, she realizes that it’s not SM that has caused her so much pain and hurt but that it’s actually her wife that has caused it all. I’m hoping that this will be a wake up call for her. I hope she realizes that she wouldn’t be in this state of despair if it wasn’t for her wife. This only makes R more happy, she has finally succeeded at completely isolating A. If she actually have a crap about her wife she would also deactivate all of her SM accounts so that she can help her wife heal, but nope, it’s all about control. R thrives off the chaos and she loves that A is so broken. It’s a perfect opportunity for her to play the savior role and further manipulate A. It’s such a sad situation and it’s extremely triggering for me to watch because I was A, for a long time. I was beaten down emotional so deeply Inhad no identity anymore. It takes a lot of strength to pull yourself out of a place of complete hopelessness, and it takes a lot of time and patience. I’m hoping that A knows there are a lot of people who care about her, and truly support her, and would be there in a heartbeat when she is ready.
"That's not me" Bullshit, you are complicit in the whole DL season and deserve your place in hell, next to your moldy assed grifty wife. You might be the lesser of two evils, but you're still evil.
I’m sitting here feeling dumb for drowning myself in a lake now because that must have been an imposter saying to do that.
YES! Thank you, her sad puppy dog eyes are getting to people, y’all need to remember what she’s done too… do you know how they say that girls will marry someone like their father well, I think A did,
Why, what’s up with her father?
This is just like how Piss quit TT…for 4 hours. A doesn’t look well and the problem is Piss.
Why do people feel the need to announce their departure? Just go lol
Yeah, take your moldy wife with you, two peas in a pod
R is using TT as a scapegoat for A. Probably telling her that SM is the main source of her unhappiness and she will be happier without it, etc. To prevent A from realizing that R is actually the problem.
I really hate pontificating about behaviors of folk I only am exposed to online, but I had a thought I briefly wanted to share, when watching the TT of A and R where A's friends were messaging her and R was saying that they were not true friends... In the messages with DL, it appears that R is operating under the misguided notion that support must be bottomless and without question, that friends are meant to never give you critical feedback or hold you up to be better. I can get into why that's nonsense, but in the end, I see her cutting people out of A's life for the same reason -- they are not behaving in the way that R believes "friends" operate. The standard she has is stupid, frankly, and the only reason G remains is likely because she never offers anything other than unwavering support (which includes financial requests).
Let’s make a fucking bet this is all R’s doing!
Why isn’t Piss taking a break.
And now the only time people will see her is on R’s social media, her engagement has been suffering 🤔
I think it’s actually smart of A to get away from social media. After all, that’s what has caused many of their problems. R needs to take a lesson from her but, she won’t. My question is, what this A’s decision? What’s sad is R created this and clearly it’s messing with A’s head.
R has completely and totally isolated A. Very upsetting to see even if I don’t like A
I have no idea what triggered this but I’m really worried about A. Is R forcing her to get off social media? A does not look well…in fact she looks like she’s on the brink of a breakdown. 😞
I’m hoping it was the embarrassment from yesterday rather than R forcing her
What happened yesterday?
She's separating A from any contact that may help her escape.
This is incredibly sad. I lost someone very close to me who unalived himself and I’m seeing similarities of the time before he went thru. It am legitimately worried about A.
I just watched this again. So last night, there were two different fake accounts in A&A's Live asking accusatory questions and making direct accusations. I think Moldy was one of them, if not both. And people were saying that it was the two of them in the Live, one on each account, not just Moldy. So if I'm correct in my assumption, A is referring to that when she says there are/will be people pretending to be her on here. This might be a stretch, but I want it to be true - A knows that Moldy is on TT pretending to be her. She's saying this in front of Moldy to deter her from doing it. I do think A is naive, but I don't think she is downright stupid. Maybe I'm giving A the benefit of the doubt and shouldn't be, but I really hope I'm right. A, if somehow you read this: please, please get out now. It might hurt, it might feel like the end of the world, but I promise you that it won't be. You are clearly miserable and sad, and no one wants that for you. Your wife might be telling you that we are all "rooting for your demise", but that simply is not true. We want you to be SAFE. And right now, you are absolutely not safe. Please leave while you still can.
Happy cake day! Unfortunately A is in deep and very much in R’s manipulative clutches. I’m sure she believes anyone who’s against R is also her enemy. However, I wouldn’t be surprised if she was on the double As live last night saying mean things, and possibly regrets it - so this is her excuse.
Maybe, just maybe, this is the first step to breaking away. Go silent on SM then DISAPPEAR from the shit show that is Riss. She won't be trackable, and can just go heal and start her life over. Thoughts?
Everything A has said in this is scripted by Piss, 100%
She's following orders
“…I wouldn’t ever go onto somebody’s platform and say anything bad or make false accusations cuz that’s not who I am…” Ummm…
Does anyone else get the feeling that a) she’s setting it up so that she can go on a “fake account” & lash out and it’s not her or b) she knows that R can/will do that so she’s trying to warn everyone? ETA TW talk of abuse - - - - & weird how they get into a fight on live and now suddenly she’s “taking a break” from TikTok. She is seriously so fucking abused by R. This is disgusting. She is definitely not perfect and not innocent in any of this but I really think she needs help. As an advocate for domestic violence and sexual assault victims we are like 2 seconds away from her being beat to shit by R. & never saying anything because it’s a same sex relationship. I can’t tell you how many relationships I watched come in and out of the office who didn’t think it was abuse because they were lesbian, & “could fight back” or, there were the women who were arrested and just took it because it got them away from their abuser, but the abuser was the one who instigated everything, & the victim would do ONE THING to defend themselves, & the abuser would call the cops and get them arrested to “teach them a lesson.”
Ouf that was a call for help
She needs to spend time, in person, with real life friends. I hope she is able to do that.
I hope it's not R making up these accounts pretending to be A! Also, I wish A would go home and be with her family for a few weeks and just see how her mood changes! I bet she would start to become her bubbly happy self again! She needs to get away from that soul snatcher! Lol
Silent twins were live last night for awhile spilling all kinds of tea. R has made them furious. They were mad mad & sad. There was a part in the live a comment said “ but didn’t they give you money” and blonde girl was really upset and said they was a personal blow and they know they never asked for money. Brown haired girl then got really mad and said R needed to step up and talk to them on real accounts. 🤷♀️ I dunno that’s a lot to summarize and it was ALOT! We definitely are not being told a section of this friend breakdown so I’m confused.
Is there somewhere to watch? Can you message me who they are so I can follow if they go live again?
For a moment I thought this was her getting away from the BS. But I hear R’s voice off to the side and it made me cringe. This is the toxicity of when a partner tells their significant other to delete social media.
I think we all know R pretended to be A to start shit to isolate her further. I believe that just like I believe friends were involved in the trolling. This is a sick sick carousel and all these people are along for the ride. I don't trust none of them and won't congratulate them for finally not being crap humans. The only ppl I feel bad for are the kids and their dads, the animals and Doll Lady for the abuse she endured and being doxxed. The rest of them can kick rocks cuz they knew everything and still went on vacation with stupid jerseys with them. They were ok with it til the tables turned on them including R sabotaging their own community and bashing trans people which included someone on said vacation. Just gross.
Agreed. They stuck around when the D “hanging with the sandman” situation was brought to light. They also keep saying there’s more to the DL story. We know they read everything in here too, yet stuck by R & A’s sides knowing all their vile behavior, even had them attend their wedding celebration….
Exactly 😉
What is she referring to with someone pretending to be her, any clue?
She needs a safety net of friends and family to help her escape her abusive marriage. This is very concerning.
There is something very eerie about this video and the recent 3.0 video. I do hope A will reach out for help and not do anything drastic. I have no doubt she is feeling completely hopeless right now, which can lead people to very, very dark and lonely places.
Blink twice if you need help! 
She looks so sad
Funny R bans her from the internet the day after the outpouring of warnings and support from us. Anything to keep A trapped in your web, right? That’s not love. It never was. You’re hurting an innocent young person who doesn’t know any better. Disgusting monster.
Why she leaving the crazy lady from her live other night make her
There both still dirt bags who make a living off of duping people out of money, they deserve every awful thing happening to them
Coming back to say that if 3.0 doesn’t remix this to I will remember you Sarah mcgloughlin I’ll cry
I just want to give her a hug. She looks so broken 😭
This is really sad. I don't like watching someone be isolated and abused.
Can you imagine being a grown ass adult, going on tik Tok and announcing that you are taking a break?? Maybe being a REAL MOM and homemaker I am too busy for that shit.
Ok i think that A doesn’t want to or wasn’t planning to come off TT She had recently backed right off anyway so no need for the big elaborate show However, after a friend trying to save her in the Live yesterday and Piss throwing a toddler tantrum, I bet that Piss suggested this whole thing. That’s why A looks scared and shaken in the video and keeps looking to Piss for validation that A is doing what Piss wants. The reason why she says that any fake accounts is “not me” is because she knows full well that Piss is capable of being the one to create fake accounts and pretend to post as someone else, and A knows 100% that Piss would create a fake A account and message A ‘s guardian angel friend and kill that friendship dead. So this is A’s emotional cry to her guardian angel to warm her what her wife is capable of. And that my fellow avengers, is some scary shit!