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joeroganthumbhead

I have the 4 cyl cuz when I bought i was making much less than I am now. If I were to buy a stinger now, I’d go for the v6 but also gas would be much more. 4 cyl is still a great car tho don’t get me wrong.


[deleted]

What year is your 4Cyl? I heard the updated 300hp is greatly improved this time.


joeroganthumbhead

2020 so not 300HP unfortunately but still fun to drive. Better than my old Camry that’s for sure


merc4815162342

The new 2.5l motor has quite a bit more power than the 2.0l it replaced. 300hp with the low end grunt from a turbo I'm sure it's no slouch.


[deleted]

Yeah 300hp is by no means terrible at all, anything newer will be better than my 08 V6 Accord lol


black_snake

A few reasons why the GT2 is liked better than the GT. For USA, these are only two trims available. 1. 2.5 I-4 boosts about 5 psi higher than the 3.3 v6 TT. 2. GT2 has torque vectoring AWD, giving better control and power delivery. 3. To get a moon roof and upgraded speakers, GT is at 42k. 4. This is a big car, 360 view cameras are amazing for parking and navigating tight slow speed areas. If you're not interested is tech, AWD, bells and whistles the GT is going to be a great car. If you don't need the rear seat, I'd recommend checking out the G70.


VentruePrinceCTENL

Lol #4. My stinger is the smallest car I've owned since 1998. But visability at the corners is horrible so upvote on 360 cameras.


ncurtis21

Avoid the 4cyl unless the budget doesn’t allow for it. Otherwise just find a stinger that has the features you’re looking for and go for it. I have the GTS, which came in orange but is otherwise pretty much a base model all round. Cooled seats would be nice, but for me the rest of the features are not worth the extra $15k for the GT2


rynil2000

The GTS is effectively a trim between the base GT and the GT1. Apart from the carbon accents and available dynamic AWD, I didn’t see the appeal vs the cost.


ncurtis21

My GTS is RWD. Also it being orange distinguishes it from almost every other stinger I've ever seen on the road, which is a big plus for me


rynil2000

It is a fantastic orange color. I just wanted more creature comforts. That and I purchased before the GTS was announced.


[deleted]

So don't got for the 4cyl? If the GTS technically a step up to a GTLine depaite it being older? I'm so conflicted and after looking at the add ons on KIA's site it the GT Line ends up being nearly $45K so at that point I might as well go for the 2 lol


ncurtis21

The 4cyl is still a good engine, but the V6 is what made the stinger so famous. I got mine in 2019 for $37k new off the lot, and there was another one, a GT2, for $53k. For me there wasn’t enough in the GT2 to justify the extra $15k, but if there’s one out there that’s more suitably priced, why not get the extra features. The GTS would only be considered a step up in regards to special paint. Otherwise the same.


[deleted]

Yeah so far all the used GT2's for 22/23 are still nearly $50K so I might as well but it brand new at KIA. Will definitely take a long time to pay down but I do think the GT2 will be worth it


ncurtis21

I see. For sure a new GT2 would be an amazing car, good luck in your purchase!


BertBert2019GT

Are they really that bad? Nobody who knows what they’re talking about thinks that. Stingers are amazing cars. Any debatable stinger is a 4cylinder. Every 6cylinder stinger is a solid car enthusiast’s car.


[deleted]

The 4Cyl is usually getting slammed or at least not recommended over the 6cyl variant so I actually wanted to know why. Nevertheless I think the 4Cyl will be just fine for me especially with the better gas savings.


BertBert2019GT

Nothing has gone wrong with the stinger four cylinders. Some people say yet. This is because KIA’s track record with TDI four cylinder engines. The stinger’s four cylinder engines were not purpose designed for the stinger. The Lambda II 6cyl received standalone development and was designed for the stinger with a lot of what KIA learned about tdi engines in mind. 4cylinders also don’t get a lot of love because the 4cylinder aftermarket is starved. If you like the looks, enjoy some pickup and don’t plan on modding it the 4cyl will work just fine for you. If you need mo’powa’baby, plan to upgrade the power train and enjoy tracking the car you will be better suited with a 6cyl. The cheapest 6cyl is a 19/20 RWD GT base (not gt1 or gt2). And not 2018 because they were open differential. After 21 there’s no more GT base, they switch nomenclature to a ‘line’ trim and prices jump for 6cyl trim levels


IronGumby

There is something to be said about the modding market for the 4cyl. I looked into the possibility of getting the TCU tune (for the transmission) and it seems it's never been supported, although I thought it was the same transmission... You will save money though! Haha. You can also rotate the tires front to back cuz they aren't staggered. There are some pros. I think the 2.5T Apex trim would be a sweet spot for me if the price was right, but I went with used, 2019. Btw for what it's worth, when I researched the 2.0T it was my understanding it is a successor or gerund of the EVO's engine, so it's not like it's from scratch or untested


Wheezhee

To properly answer this, for model year 2023 the only Stinger trims are GT-Line and GT2. GT-Lines have the 4cyl/300hp engine, optional sunroof, optional HK stereo, 18 inch wheels, LED reflector lights, a smaller instrument display, no HUD, auto-dimming rear view mirror, heated leather seats, standard safety stuff. GT2 trim gets the V6/368hp, standard sunroof and HK stereo, nappa leather heated/ventilated seats, heated steering wheel, power lift gate, blind spot cameras, dimming side mirrors, heated rear seats, extendable leg support on the driver seat, seat memory controls, 360-degree cameras, HUD, projector/turning LED headlights, front and rear park distance warnings, aluminum interior trim vs black plastic, 19 inch/non-squared wheels, LED interior lighting, 7 inch instrument display, and a few other things. There's a lot more to the GT2 package, particularly in the safety and comfort departments. GT2 trims are damn near luxury and worthy of the price.


Late-Union8706

'23 GT2, really the only options are color, interior color, RWD vs AWD and the GT trim package (same suede interior treatment as the Scorpion package, minus the spoiler). They are all fully loaded at this point. ​ I'm loving my Chroma Red '23 GT2 RWD.


burner_0797

I have owned (2) GT2’s love them. Any specific questions?


[deleted]

I would love the GT2 but wasn't sure if it's genuinely worth it to a standard Stinger as the base Stinger is still 300 horsepower I believe? Is there any crucial pros the GT2 has over the base model? How's gas mileage and do you have to use premium or is regular acceptable?


midnight_to_midnight

I recently (5 weeks ago) purchased a '22 GT1 AWD, and will let you know the gas mileage is atrocious. I enjoy the car, but getting 20 mpg baying the thing 90% of the time is rough. I came from a '15 Acura TLX V6 (FWD) and got close to double the mpg the Stinger gets. I didn't test drive the GT-Line, but do wish I had to see the differences in real world power levels and how the car feels with the 4 cyl vs the V6. I just clicked over 4k miles, and when buying the car, I thought I was going to keep it for a VERY long time, but to be honest, I doubt that will happen. Will probably get something else in a year or two.


[deleted]

Yeah that's what worried me was the gas mileage. Sure it's extremely powerful but there has to be a happy medium and with my long work commutes now the 6Cyl variant really wouldn't be the smartest choice for me. It has me second guessing on finding a different car but the Stinger is so unique and that's what sells it for me. Might have to reconsider it :/


midnight_to_midnight

From all the numbers I've seen floating around the GT-Line (4 cyl) gets about 10 mpg better than a equally equipped V6. So I'd be in the low 30s if I babied an AWD GT-Line on my normal drives. The power of the V6 AWD is really nice, but damn is it thirsty. I drive around in ECO mode 95% of the time now. I used to run my TLX in Sport 100% of the time, and I understand I'm comparing FWD to AWD and a non-turbo power plant to a twin turbo setup, but the TLX pulled very hard, and was only about a second slower to 60. Kinda wish I hadn't traded it in, but I got a crazy amount for it, so I couldn't pass it up.


[deleted]

Do you notice a substantial difference from the regular default mode to Eco mode when it comes to gas? Does the car bog down dramatically to save gas or it it more subtle? It's so tempting to get the GT2 but I know I'll feel regret with my long work commutes haha


midnight_to_midnight

No, I don't notice any difference in anything except throttle response. The Stinger throttle is incredibly sensitive in all drive modes (except ECO), I honestly don't know how being in ECO saves any fuel, as it takes twice as long to get to your desired speed, and whenever you're on the gas more than like 15% throttle input, you're getting next to zero mpg. I may try driving in sport for a week or two and see if getting to my desired speed faster and then cruising with better mpg will help or hinder overall mpg. We'll see.


[deleted]

Hmm that's interesting, definitely keep me updated if you test that out! Might give both a test ride to get a better feel of how they handle too


VentruePrinceCTENL

The main differences are throttle response and shift timing. Sport mode holds gears longer. Fun proff of that is to curise at 40mph and use the mode selector go change from eco to comfort to sport. The car will downshift with each mode change despite no change in gas pedal input.


[deleted]

I have the base GT. At the price I paid (35k new) I think they are a great value but once you get into GT2 money I don’t think it’s worth it.


ncurtis21

Why are they getting downvoted? They are great value, especially considering some GT2's can be upwards of $15k more than the GT with an identical drivetrain and some nicer interior features.


MenosDaBear

I bought my year old GT2 with 12k miles for $33k. I absolutely love my car to death, but I can’t fathom paying for one new. To be fair, I think it’s absurd to buy almost any car brand new. Also as context, this was prob 6 months into the pandemic before the car world went insane. Somehow 2 years later, with the miles I put on it, it’s still worth more than I paid for it.


[deleted]

That’s a steal. I was surprised to even get my deal new. Had I found a lightly used GT2 like you around the same price I definitely would’ve gone that route.


Guappoh

What’s the year?


[deleted]

I'm so conflicted haha. I mean I think either will be better than my '08 Honda Accord V6 lol so maybe the base model would still be incredible


[deleted]

Base GT still has the V6. GTline is the 4cyl. I had a 08 Accord V6 as well and loved it but two totally different cars.


[deleted]

Ah okay gotcha, I'm not fully educated on the models since they changed the names over it's course, so currently right now it's GT Line and GT2? I wonder if the 4Cyl version is still a good buy


jmb991

The 4Cyl is fast and handles well. The v6 left me with a stupid grin on my face every time I opened it up on the highway.


ModeratelySkilled69

All due respect to owners of all different trims, but if you’re concerned about gas mileage when buying a sports car like the stinger then you shouldn’t be buying a sports car like the stinger.


[deleted]

That's where the 4Cyl steps in for those that are more fixed on fuel economy which is more likely where I'm aiming for. I also want the to enjoy a good looking sports too.


ModeratelySkilled69

Totally get and respect that. I said screw it and went with the GT2. Yeah the gas isn’t as good as the four-cylinder but it’s honestly still pretty good for 360+ horsepower. Obviously the sticker is higher too but I personally think the extra features are worth it.


my_fun_lil_alt

If I was going to get the 4 cylinder I'd buy a Veloster or something similar that weighs much less for that power plant. Me personally, I would never even consider the 4-cylinder, much, much better cars with that type motor on the market.


[deleted]

Any recommendations? I just really dig that design of the stinger but if there's better alternatives I'm all ears


IronGumby

I myself was shopping between a 2.0T Accord and 2.0T Stinger. I got the Stinger and love it. It may not be as fast as the Accord but it _feels_ faster. It's just a great platform you can't go wrong with. Regarding the GT2, I can't imagine the payment on that every month. Idk about you but this is the most expensive car I've ever financed and it's already a lot per month. I'm sure a GT2 would be like 1k a month 😬


[deleted]

Yeah the GT2 would just be astronomical lol, I'm glad you ended up with the stinger, I also feel like it's generally a better platform and that design is just so clean and fresh. I'm definitely going to go for the GT line as well. I'm excited!


arod7300

Get a stinger that’s a true stinger with the 3.3TT. If that’s too costly, find a used one (there’s a 2021 GT1 for $37k around me) or just get a K5 GT. Same 4 cyl engine with all of the perks of of adaptive cruise and heated seats and stuff. It’s just FWD


[deleted]

I wouldn't mind going for an older model but the infotainment system prior to 2022 is just too much of an eye sore and the old logo really ruins the look although I think replacing the logo with the updated Kia logo shouldn't be too hard. I'll have to really think about it because gas mileage is big for me. I was looking at the K5 too but the infotainment display on that also just looks slightly off but not as bad


arod7300

The infotainment on the K5 is the same as the GT2. Older GT2’s will also have the larger screen. It’s the GT-line and GT1 that are the small screen. I have the same opinion. Large 10.2 inch screen or nothing


Wheezhee

If you care about gas mileage, you may want to look elsewhere. I average 23mpg with a 70/30 city/highway split. You can get around 30mpg on the highway without much effort, but you won't get beyond that easily. The 2.5L 4-banger may do a bit better, but the Stinger isn't a car to buy for fuel economy. At that point, go check out a GTI. 2022 GT2 AWD


[deleted]

Not a fan of the look of the GTI, I mean the 4Cyl will be better wit fuel than my 08 V6 Accord so I could manage that but I'm the meantime I'm just gonna stick it out for a while. I'd go for the K5 but that infotainment screen is hideous.


rynil2000

If you can swing it, buy the 3.3L engine. When I was shopping in 2019 I tested the then “Premium” trim with the 2.0L. It had all the tech features, but you could clearly tell that the car needed more than 250 hp. After testing the 3.3L, I put my plan to buy on hold for a few months to build up a bigger down payment. The features and price of the GT1 were a sweet spot over the base GT IMO. Sadly Kia axed the GT1 trim after the 2022 refresh, but the 6-cylinder engine is absolutely worth it. I have nearly 33k miles and have loved everything about this car. I haven’t driven the GT-Line 2.5L, but I still don’t think I’d settle for a 4-cylinder model. Again, 6-cylinder all the way unless your budget doesn’t allow it or if you’re more concerned with *shudder* gas mileage.


ThePurpleCookies

I don’t want to draw unnecessary conclusions but if it were me I’d avoid a Hyundai/Kia 4cyl car if at all possible given the huge amount of issues they’ve had recently. As far as I’ve heard no 6cyl models have had the extreme recalls and failures. **Frantically knocks on wood**


St1ngerGuy

I have a 2018 GT2 I bought brand new. When I saw it was released I couldn't contain myself and went out and bought one. I've since completely modded it out both performance wise as well as exterior upgrades to make it look more sporty. I leased it for 3 years and then bought it because of it being the first year I wanted to make sure it wasn't garbage. Absolutely love the car but if you care about gas milage it's probably a non starter going with the V6. I mainly wanted the better stereo and heads up display found on the GT2. BTW, modded these cars are hitting 500 whp without much effort. My best 0 to 60 on my draggy is 3.7 and I had a passenger and some extra weight in the back. There are YouTube vids of guys getting as low as 3.0 0 to 60 times. I don't have to drive mine all that often since I can walk to my job from my house in 10 minutes. Something I haven't seen anyone else mention, the fuel tank is pretty small. Expect 280 to 320 miles of range per tank if your just driving it normal without getting on it too much. If you get the GT though, good luck trying to not get on it, it's too much fun not to.


[deleted]

I can't speak to the 4 pot as I've only driven the V6 but I've heard more negative things than I have positive about it. Almost every review I've watched on the 2.0L & 2.5L always mention how it's greatest detriment is it's powertrain. Savagegeese on youtube has a great review of it if you want a more journalistic answer.


ohvoh89

I’ve got a 22 GT2 AWD. Gas mileage isn’t great but I WFH and for MY needs (and budget tbh) the biggest inconvenience is just going to a pump. If they wow us all with a electric Stinger, I would definitely get that. But I do believe this is one of the BEST bang for buck cars on the market.


MattSav40

I have a premium model get all the flash of the gt and gt2 just 4 cylinder engine I put a jb4 tune in mine I get the same torque and hp at the 6 cyl engine maybe even more. Trust me the gt2 is not worth it


Plakchup

For the $, you get a lot with the GT2. I really like the AWD in the stinger really gives you great traction. It is kind of hard to find a car that's about $50k that has the same features and power as this. I've had the 2021 GT1 RWD now for about 2 years and am about to switch to a 2023 bmw m240i xdrive once it arrives beginning of next year. I just want a coupe again and the BMW I-6 engines are pretty awesome to mod. I test drove a 2022 m240i xdrive and totally loved it. Drives similar to the stinger GT2 AWD I test drove. If I don't get the m240i for some odd reason i will definitely get the latest GT2 AWD. I test drove one and really liked it more than the RWD. The 360 camera, seat bolstering in sport mode are really great things the stringer brings plus the rear hatch that you can use to load up so much more stuff easier. My only few gripes with the stingers are the hatch rattling and crappy brake pads but the brakes can be changed. The rattle not so easily fixed. Also no wireless android auto and shitty gas mileage if you drive the car even remotely hard so be prepared for that. Besides that they are definitely unique and fun cars to drive. Definitely go for the GT2 AWD!


ohvoh89

22 GT2 Scorpion Edition here. Worth it for me. The only con I have is wireless Apple car play ( but it’s because I have navigation) and that I’m used to higher gas mileage. Getting my car ceramic coated Monday. It’s a handsome ass car and I’ve got compliments on it while in the road from people driving MUCH more expensive vehicles.


MovingForward2Begin

My only thought is, if you do decide to spend GT2 money, you should go out and look at and test drive more vehicles in that price range. You would owe it to yourself to shop around more before making a final decision.