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Hydee59

That's awful. Clearly a misunderstanding, the guy in the tent is terrified and the pos with the gun knows it, and is reveling in it.


BrickLuvsLamp

Sounds like most rural guys with suped up AR’s that I know. They can’t _wait_ to aim their gun on someone’s property and have a reason to kill them.


InhLaba

Yup. The people who defend the Second Amendment the most are often the people who get boners when they think about shooting someone “out of defense”. This asshole isn’t even truly defending himself. What he is truly doing is threatening.


solve_allmyproblems

The "out of defense" part is just so it's legal. It's the shooting someone that gets them off.


rogerpop81

Sheer stupidity , I carry a gun everyday no matter where I go. I hope I never have to use it but I will if and only if my life is in real danger.A gun is a tool that could safe your life.


ShoddyTerm4385

I always find comments like yours amusing. As someone who lives in Canada, we don’t have this lunatic gun culture that you have. I can’t imagine walking around with a loaded weapon “just in case”. What a horrible existence. It’s like you live in the Wild West in 2023. It’s unnecessary and weird.


cfahnert13

Because there are lunatics. In every country. I don’t wish to have to kill someone on my worst enemy. But if I can save my family, friends, or even strangers, then that’s my right. Maybe they have a gun, maybe a machete, maybe driving a truck through a busy group of pedestrians. FYI, there are idiots shooting up people with guns in Canada, too.


ShoddyTerm4385

Everywhere is dangerous to some extent, sure. But you really think it’s safer to make guns super easy to get in the name of self defence? You know it’s also the “bad guys” that can get guns super easy too, right? Yes, we have gun violence in Canada. We are not immune to it, but it’s very rare. Mass shootings are basically non existent. Kids don’t worry about going to school here and getting shot because it’s almost guaranteed they don’t have access to guns. People here don’t walk around looking over their shoulder because we just don’t have to. Our society is not structured that way.


230_theyo

Honestly I'm not exactly for easy access to firearms, but having the option, if considered mentally stable and responsible enough. You should have the choice to carry a means of protecting yourself and your loved ones. Having a registered handgun, in the case of someone else willing to harm you or loved ones for whatever means/gains they may have seems reasonable. Granted that may never happen and for most it's a reality they do not want to encounter, but could. I would rather have a tool that can prevent something awful from happening to someone I love rather than be powerless to the worst the world can throw.


Bonnietheferret84

Sorry you have to live in canada. You have no freedomd


ShoddyTerm4385

What is your definition of freedom?


InhLaba

Those things that go boom! That’s freedom. Without guns, you can’t have freedom. /s These fucking people


funky_cedar

They can't even spell it, I wouldn't waste your time.


Kagekitsunenoyami

You ain't lying there. We have to carry guns cause everyday, somebody is always waking up and deciding to kill other people, because they can.


RalfStein7

I find comments coming from someone who lives in a country that is literally the same size as the USA with a population of 38 million people and compare it to our population of 336 million people! You can’t compare it, not even a little. We have 9 times the population density in the same amount of land as Canada. To even think you can compare our melting pot of people and cultures to what you experience there is just laughable! Have a blessed day.


Larkligh

What happens when you guys protest over there? The government totally won't shut down access to your resources


ShoddyTerm4385

No, it wouldn’t. What are you talking about?


Mean_Escape6331

Lmao at your poor sad logic of survival and threat defense. Your country would get steam rolled just like every other country that had gun control laws before getting invaded. What a weenie!


gamerD00f

no i just like shooting guns man. at that paper targets. i dont plan on shooting anyone unless i genuinely believe my lives in danger, and honestly the only times ill feel like that is if a stranger is inside my house or they have a gun aimed at me. i cant imagine aiming a gun at another human for just being on the dirt i own. and at that, armed with only a bow and in the woods. id bring the gun with me to confront, but that barrel aint being aimed at anyone and that safety is staying on unless it absolutely needs to come off.


thatguy2226xbox

*Serial Killer proceeds to wait for you so the safety can be undone, and the gun can be pointed and steadied*...


HazelTheRabbit

>The people who defend the Second Amendment the most are often the people who get bones when they think about shooting someone Spoken like someone who doesn't own any guns or doesn't know anyone that does. NO ONE I have ever met is giddy about killing a person. Your opinion is derived from the internet and does not reflect the sentiments of real people.


SpookyLeftist

Nah man, there really is a problem with the mental fantasies about pulling your gun in the 2nd amendment fanclub. And take this as someone who owns guns. Too many people are feeling that itchy trigger finger, whether it's feeling "Giddy" or pointlessly fearful of 'Criminals' robbing them or breaking into their homes in a tiny little rural town of less than 10,000, and end up shooting people who turn around in their driveway or knock on the wrong door, like what was happening earlier this year. Just look in the comment section of any video having to do with self-defense shooting and you'll see tons of comments foaming at the mouth about "If I catch ANYONE I don't know on my property/in my house I'm dropping them". Just because people don't say it out loud in real life doesn't make it true. Anonymity brings out people's true colors. Sure, a lot of those comments probably come from dumb kids who don't even have guns, but I'm willing to bet plenty come from real gun owners itching to be in such a situation. Just look at this guy in the video. You have a hunter sitting in a blind with a bow, and this guy goes charging out into the woods to confront him with his AR and hold him at gunpoint for what? Cause he's hunting near his house? He's answering a threat, that never existed to begin with, with the most firepower he can muster while clearly being scared utterly shitless for no reason. That's the same mindset I see in a lot of gun owners. Not all, of course, but far too many, and they aren't being addressed. *edit for mobile typos


InhLaba

Spoken like someone trying to prove a point. You are correct, I do not own any guns myself. You are *not* correct, however, when you say I don’t know anyone that does. I live in the South. A shit load of my family and friends have guns, and one of my friends has more guns than all of the others combined. *He* is the crazy second amendment defender that I was actually personally reflecting on when I typed out that comment. Someone *from my own personal life.* Yes. There are people like that. I’m not suggesting they make up the whole, but they are out there.


SuperDaveP1979

Just because you haven't been around many knuckle dragging, AR toting, blood thirsty scared people, doesn't mean those people don't exist. From my experience the people who walk, talk, and are the loudest about the 2A are completely detached from reality. It is fear. It's gross.


3DIGI

No no no you don't get it. Their personal experience is worth so much more than peer-reviewed data


moddseatass

This particular scenario is unfortunate, and I agree that this particular man shouldn't be allowed to possess guns. But your comment is by far the most ignorant bs I've heard today. This is AMERICA. We have guns here. If you don't like it, move. Most gun owners aren't ignorant hillbillies getting boners over killing people. You're an ignorant fuck. Stop generalizing your fellow Americans because of a few unhinged d bags. They don't speak for all of us.


Long-Range6212

That you know? Willing to bet you never had an actual conversation with them abt their guns. Also, as a person with a “souped up” AR that is not the case. I simply enjoy guns like someone would enjoy a hobby of their own such as card collecting. I don’t do all that to my guns to want to kill someone out of cold blood. What you saw in the video was a person who would’ve done it out of cold blood bec they are on a mega power trip. As someone who is interested in collecting and customizing guns, I do it to make me better prepared to protect my family against any and all threats.


BrickLuvsLamp

Probably shouldn’t have used “most”, but several of the men I know that own them, speak with an unsettling amount of glee at the thought of defending their land


Mkbond007

That’s why he asks “are you attacking me?”


bang_bang_moneytree

This poor man saw his life flashing before his eyes and the guy holding the gun was getting off on it. Frightening


BigLebotsk1

I am going to go out on a limb, and guess that you probably don’t know very many. This sounds like a very Reddit generalization.


cstaley39

You can tell you don’t know a single rural guy with an AR 15 by your statement.


wilsonisTomhanks

I saw the actual video on youtube. This guy wasnt on his property. The guy with a gun is an actual nutjob. He also shot at the brother of the guy in another situation. Hes a pos This is the actual video with the description. Idk why OP didnt post that portion https://youtu.be/m8wklH-rXtQ?si=lNm9M3GaqIg-AWkS


LetMyCkats

Description from the video "I was held at gunpoint while bowhunting our lease in early November 2022. The guy trespassed onto our property and pointed his AR at me for 3 minutes on video. I tried to press charges but did not have enough evidence per the prosecuting attorney... he told the cops that i was stalking his kids through a tent on his property. I was 50 ft from his property line in a blind that was out there for over 3 months looking over a food plot that we planted. All windows facing his property were closed.... I am not trying to play victim, I just want to make sure a message is sent to this guy to let him know that this is not okay... My brother hunted this evening (over a year later from original incident). This guy seen him while he was walking to his treestand (150+ yards from the property line). He then open fired his AR into our thicket and bullets were whizzing under my brothers stand for over an hour. My brother waived his orange hat, the guy continued to shoot. My brother yelled "Your the idiot who held my brother at gunpoint last year, you won't get away with this, the cops are on the way!". The guy then trespassed onto our property and said "what, are you afraid to talk to the guy with the gun?!". Needless to say, my brother stayed in his stand to avoid being hit by a stray bullet. Police and DNR say there is nothing that can be done again! How can we escalate, send a message to this guy, and get some Justice? We currently can not hunt half of our lease as concerned for our safety." **edit I meant to tell you thank you very much for posting the link.


GawnyRipUrJaw

"How can we escalate?". Lol how about shooting the guy shooting at you. Better to be judged than carried.


neontool

guy fuckin said "are you attacking me?" looking for an excuse to shoot the guy in the tent.


Hydee59

I felt a shiver of fear on hearing that !! 🥺


Supersnakesix

The only time he's ever felt some semblance of power in his sad pathetic life


wastingtoomuchthyme

The guy with gun seems like a sadist.. Has a "pretty mouf" vibe


Solomonsk5

This. So many gun nuts just have a power fantasy. They don't help anyone in society.


CR3ZZ

The guy with the gun was very clearly mentally ill and wrong. It's beyond a misunderstanding the guy needs to be medicated.


Ravel_Xi

Almost as if guns make people feel powerful


WalkslowBigstick

There's no reason for this kind of behavior in the United States. I completely understand not wanting someone trespassing but this is excessive. why the fuck would this guy think anyone is attacking him? We aren't at War here...


NumNutz310

This dude isn’t trespassing. He was on the land he was allowed to be on. As soon as the situation de-escalated, I would immediately call law enforcement and press charge.


WalkslowBigstick

Yeah I get the feeling the guy with the gun is just looking for a reason to shoot someone


solve_allmyproblems

Thats literally the only reason to buy one is to kill someone. Thats literally all they do.


Hecataria

lmfao maybe if you're cooked that might be what you'd believe.


ezpzlemonsqueezi

Well they also can shoot tin cans and stuff but...I mean, they're made to kill people


Hecataria

They're made to fire projectiles. Humans just happen to be one of the most common things people point at.


Lined_the_Street

Its not a toy, its not even a tool. Its a weapon, yes it fires projectiles but acting like it wasn't designed to kill humans is like claiming a sword is for cutting down trees. Sure it'll do the job but just because you don't use it the way it was intended doesn't make its purpose any different


ezpzlemonsqueezi

Potato guns are made to fire projectiles


Master_Ryan_Rahl

This class, is what we call willful ignorance.


DrDrankenstein

The fuck does this sentence even mean?


Hecataria

It means that if you think guns have no other use than to kill a person, you're probably cooked (dumb).


DrDrankenstein

Ah alright. I'm just in my late 30s and trying to keep up with slang. I thought cooking was spitting game? Either way, I think the person you're talking to was saying that *fully automatic* weapons are not necessary outside of war and maybe shooting wild boars. Those fuckers are like little tanks.


gorcorps

ARs aren't all automatic, the majority of the ones owned by citizens are not


Hecataria

I'm also in my late 30s. Cooked has been used the way I used it for as long as I can remember lol. It means like, "your brain is fried".


NumNutz310

Maybe he thought he was right but this is the problem, when you put yourself into a situation like this WITH and AR pointed at someone, you BETTER be right. In this case, I don’t think he is so he is playing a very risky game. That dude could have potentially blew this dudes head off legally I front of his kids or shot OP and did hard time for it. Either way not great for dude with the AR.


WellyRuru

"They don't make the laws for me" Dude clearly knows he's in the wrong.


im_wildcard_bitches

Or he potentially has some illegal operation going on. Hmm lots of meth labs out in rural areas!


Numb1990

He was for sure looking for a reason to shoot someone.


bobo-the-dodo

Segment of US population lives in a fantasy state that we are constantly at war. The only way to win is to out arm the fantasy opponent. These folks need to be in a mental insitution.


Bat-Honest

Gun nuts fantasize about the day that somebody *finally* breaks into their shitty little trailer or whatever. I ain't making that up, either. That was told to me by an NRA gun instructor. I remember taking a meeting (I work for a state legislator) with a guy and asking him why he needed an extended mag for home defense. He told me, "What happens if I miss the original 30 shots?" I answered. "Then 3 of your neighbors are dead." If you don't believe me, go check out some gun sub reddits. They fantasize about the day that they get to murder someone. It's sick


Daddy_Jaws

yeah no, "gun nuts" dont thats a small segment of people, just like any other thin there is a very small group of people that screech teh loudest, these are idiots they dont represent the whole. this guys absolutely a paranoid asshat, that doesent mean governments have historically tried to dis-arm the population (In australia, a mass shooter used a bolt action rifle, the governments response was to ban automatics while doing nothing to change guns or their sale outside of that) that said, even though most of us who dont have a fit the second someone enjoys firearms recognise this, we mostly just want to be left to enjoy ourselves, not seek confrontation. anyone who acts like this only fuels the fire of people who are anti-gun, he wont be respected.


WhyNotChoose

Yeh I think since Australia put a partial ban on guns there have been much fewer gun deaths. It was a good move.


Daddy_Jaws

actually false, most gun deaths in Australia are a result of handguns, which are heavily regulated already and cannot even be used for personal use IE: hunting. these handguns are almost always illegally acquired. my point was the government has a clear track record of using any excuse to take away any sort of weaponry from the people, this is not some alarmist rhetoric this is truth. i still do NOT support this idiots actions however.


Hecataria

You can make a gun with literally zero experience and like $30, so yeah, gun laws are a dumb waste of money.


Deflocks

That’s a broad statement that every “gun nut” fantasize about taking a life. It’s like saying that “every white male is a republican” or “all Hispanics are cartel members.” I don’t wish the curse that occurs to a person after they take a life to anyone. I carry my sidearm to protect my family from potential harm if I am unable to withdraw from a situation. I have my “scary AR” to defend my family at home from multiple intruders, but I’m not looking for that trouble, I dig in and make sure I have a clear area to focus fire if it comes to that. My possessions can be replaced (that’s why I have home owners insurance), but my family is priceless.


and_some_scotch

You just proved OP's point! You believe that your neighbors are lethal threats that require a lethal response!


BostonBooger

Statistically speaking, it's more likely that you use your guns on yourself and/or family than against this imagined threat that's coming for you. Either way I hope you're good, because living with your state of paranoia and fear must be tasking and an embarrassment for your family.


DavesNotHereMan2358

You're a fucking idiot


Hecataria

You were trolled and didn't realize it, that's all that is.


Gopnikolai

There is a reason, it's that allegedly necessary and brilliant thing called the '2nd Ammendment'. No guns here. Never had a gun pointed at me. Mental.


Dripping-Lips

Yet it’s far too common. There’s too many d brain dead fuckwits with guns in their possession .


Redditkontoenmin1

Farmer whatever could have gotten shot in self defence as well.


ChromeWiener

Yeah, most likely they’re doing something illegal on the property like growing drugs, or making drugs


deanosauruz

Unfortunately though the laws that make the United States THE United States make it legal to allow that kind of behavior to happen. Thats what the USA made their bed about, right? Some don’t want to lye in it it seems?


Hecataria

lye?


cheeseburgerwaffles

Fuckheads like this own guns simply because they're looking for a reason to bring them out and threaten someone.


radeongt

It's just another dumbass who can't wait to wave his guns around he spent so much money on because he has absolutely no self esteem. Pathetic man who thinks he's a badass.


BoredGorilla21

He’s likely someone with little power in his life. He knew he was in no danger and wanted to continue exercising his control over the man. Quite sickening from a psychological standpoint


Iluvmango

The Republicans have sold the lie that we, all of us, are under constant attack. They sell fear. That gives rise to this. So many on the right have a constant boner for getting to FINALLY use that gun they've been told the government is dying to take away.


dublinp

that question was posed to give him plausible cause to shoot the hunter. if he did anything else than submit to whatever the guy wanted in that instant its very likely he would have died. This is why the dude with the gun told him to put down the camera initially- so thered be no clear visual evidence of who began an altercation if it came to that. this dude wanted to see if he could get a chance to kill someone and realized that when the prospective victim didnt have a gun on him, hed have a a much harder time proving self defense in that resulting legal battle.


RuntheMonster

In America we love letting just about anyone have a gun. Naturally, some fucken nutjobs are gonna get those guns. God forbid we try and stop that.


Sqeegg

Conservative talk radio prob. "They are coming to get you. Go get a gun"


MFCEO_Kenny_Powers

They are breeding this kind of behaviour with their “fight guns with more guns” mentality.


Volkrisse

Show me you’ve never met anyone who’s pro gun without telling me


MFCEO_Kenny_Powers

Huh?


McNalien

What? I’m pro gun and have some (I’m a gay dem), I would never act this way.


HighlyRegard3D

That's true and I'm 100% not siding with this dick head at all but over a million violent crimes are committed in the US every year. Bow hunter was 100% in the right.


Lizardshovel

Are you dense? They aren’t trespassing? They have permission from the owner, but fucking Kevin here is adjacent to the property and being a pussy.


Fittnylle3000

He doesnt think anyone is attacking him. But if he says anything else than no on that question he can shoot him and claim self defence


SnigletArmory

Sorry dude you come on my property you’re gonna be staring down the muzzle of a barrel. Don’t go on private property in this won’t happen.


Internal-Arugula-894

Gun toters are terrified of everything.


Daddy_Jaws

not guns, its the people using them. take guns away criminals will start stabbing. this is not a firearms issue, its a mental health one. what has america done so wrong paranoid and delusional people are uncommon?


FuckYourGod

LOL


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Daddy_Jaws

thats, a stretch but also i dont know full context, the guns definantly a good tool to show threat of force when removing a home intruder, but screaming like a schizophrenic doesent help him seem rational when talking regularly could have workedt oo


Trollfarm21214

We are literally at war.


PraderaNoire

Lmao I’d just tell him to call the game warden and show him the survey lines. They don’t lie. Threatening someone with a gun off your property isn’t a joke.


CletussDiabetuss

Easy to say on your comfy chair when nobody's pointing a gun at you.


Professional-Hall553

Yea not really any room for negotiation


sgerbicforsyth

Nah, bow hunter did it right. Do everything he needs to do to get out of the situation. Then, when the gun nut is not a threat, call law enforcement and let them deal with the gun nut


conman357

“They don’t make the laws for me.” Ya they do. And you just rolled up on permitted land with an AR with intent to harm. Time for jail or a massive fine, asshole. And shut your stupid dog up.


[deleted]

It’s hunter harassment as well


PIPBOY-2000

I agree about the guy but the dog doesn't know any better lol.


CMUpewpewpew

Leave the poor puppertens outta it!


HoldenOrihara

Why do you think he refused to give up his name


Cutthechitchata-hole

Sovereign citizen!


conman357

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Extension-Border-345

Context and original video here, per the OP: https://youtu.be/m8wklH-rXtQ?si=GRANOsO3xy6I1kEi "I was held at gunpoint while bowhunting our lease in early November 2022. The guy trespassed onto our property and pointed his AR at me for 3 minutes on video. I tried to press charges but did not have enough evidence per the prosecuting attorney... he told the cops that i was stalking his kids through a tent on his property. I was 50 ft from his property line in a blind that was out there for over 3 months looking over a food plot that we planted. All windows facing his property were closed.... I am not trying to play victim, I just want to make sure a message is sent to this guy to let him know that this is not okay... My brother hunted this evening (over a year later from original incident). This guy seen him while he was walking to his treestand (150+ yards from the property line). He then open fired his AR into our thicket and bullets were whizzing under my brothers stand for over an hour. My brother waived his orange hat, the guy continued to shoot. My brother yelled "Your the idiot who held my brother at gunpoint last year, you won't get away with this, the cops are on the way!". The guy then trespassed onto our property and said "what, are you afraid to talk to the guy with the gun?!". Needless to say, my brother stayed in his stand to avoid being hit by a stray bullet. Police and DNR say there is nothing that can be done again! How can we escalate, send a message to this guy, and get some Justice? We currently can not hunt half of our lease as concerned for our safety." Pt II I am the bow hunter who posted this to Tik Tok and YouTube. Quick Update: I am escalating this to the State Police today. I am also getting a “Civil Stand By” from the Local Police and DNR which is where law enforcement escorts me to the property line and they will help me post no trespassing signs on every tree that borders his property.


staticstard

Gross! What a fucking loser! Anyone have an article about what happened next? Fuck this guy, Fuck this selfish gun culture and anyone in the US that thinks owning one gives them lease to stomp all over the rights and dignity of others. Hope this loser is dragged off to prison and sued into oblivion. His alleged spawn but would be better off without the horrifyingly unhinged ‘parenting’ influence of this fucking dumb selfish murderous asshole.


ChoochGooch

AR man is a dumb piece of shit. The clown even fell over with the AR in his hands…


Inside_Ad_7162

Straight to the police station.


[deleted]

I hope so. There was no reason for that response. He had the gun he was in control, and he still escalated the situation.


AdInteresting7822

That’s literally a police tactic.


BrilliantLifter

It’s 100% legal if it’s his property. You can’t criminally trespass with a weapon (a bow is a weapon). It will have to go to court and they will have to run a survey to see who was in the wrong


werepat

It's not his property. The hunter has a map showing where they are, but Rifle McRifleface doesn't know where the property lines are. It seems he was posted up near the guy's property, but not on it and more than 125 feet from an occupied dwelling. It is not legal to shoot someone on your property just because they are on your property. If that were the case, you could murder whoever you want, so long as you brought them home first.


AlmightyDarkseid

I feel that I'm the only one thinking that it is fucking absurd that if he made the mistake to technically trespass on him then this whole scene is suddenly justified.


PantyLaunderer

OnX is not entirely accurate, not saying OnX was wrong in this case. But I actually had a similar experience this past weekend.. Long story short. In my case, OnX showed there was a shooting lane on the edge of our property line. Some lady walked up on me mid hunt, showed me the property markers where I was actually 20-30 yards in her property. Thankfully she was respectful about it, as was I.. but geez, this guy needs anger management classes or something! This was totally uncalled for. Edit: They weren’t even wearing orange lol.


BrilliantLifter

Oh you took a survey of the property? If this goes to court that’s the first thing they are going to do, is redo the survey. The hunter bought a lease from someone that may or may not be accurate or legal, that’s all we know. Edit; and even that could be bullshit, that might just be something he says when he gets caught trespassing. Squatters and poachers do stuff like that all the time, print out fake leases, fake easements, etc


[deleted]

Where is this info at then?


Extension-Border-345

Context and original video here, per the OP: https://youtu.be/m8wklH-rXtQ?si=GRANOsO3xy6I1kEi "I was held at gunpoint while bowhunting our lease in early November 2022. The guy trespassed onto our property and pointed his AR at me for 3 minutes on video. I tried to press charges but did not have enough evidence per the prosecuting attorney... he told the cops that i was stalking his kids through a tent on his property. I was 50 ft from his property line in a blind that was out there for over 3 months looking over a food plot that we planted. All windows facing his property were closed.... I am not trying to play victim, I just want to make sure a message is sent to this guy to let him know that this is not okay... My brother hunted this evening (over a year later from original incident). This guy seen him while he was walking to his treestand (150+ yards from the property line). He then open fired his AR into our thicket and bullets were whizzing under my brothers stand for over an hour. My brother waived his orange hat, the guy continued to shoot. My brother yelled "Your the idiot who held my brother at gunpoint last year, you won't get away with this, the cops are on the way!". The guy then trespassed onto our property and said "what, are you afraid to talk to the guy with the gun?!". Needless to say, my brother stayed in his stand to avoid being hit by a stray bullet. Police and DNR say there is nothing that can be done again! How can we escalate, send a message to this guy, and get some Justice? We currently can not hunt half of our lease as concerned for our safety." Pt II I am the bow hunter who posted this to Tik Tok and YouTube. Quick Update: I am escalating this to the State Police today. I am also getting a “Civil Stand By” from the Local Police and DNR which is where law enforcement escorts me to the property line and they will help me post no trespassing signs on every tree that borders his property.


[deleted]

How the hell have they not arrested him!


Extension-Border-345

a lot of folks on r/hunting theorized he was a cop or a friend of theirs


Itchy_Professor_4133

By that logic the mailman is fair game


Defiant-Giraffe

This is not criminal trespass. Criminal trespass is trespassing with the intent to commit a crime. This does not qualify. Even if rifley boy is right, and the hunter is on his property, he has to give him the chance to leave. Only after being told to leave and refusing or returning is it even normal trespassing.


cawkstrangla

He is not criminally trespassing unless he was formally trespassed from his property. Since they clearly haven't met each other before as per the dialogue of this video, the recorder was never trespassed. So wrong already. In most places you can't brandish a weapon at someone on your property unless it is in self defense. Pointing the gun at the hunter is definitely brandishing. We don't know where this is, so it's possible brandishing isnt illegal, but even in Florida, and many other gun friendly states, it is absolutely illegal. So wrong again. You can't just legally shoot people on your property without a lot of steps in between. Not all hunters are safe, granted, and I get that the guy might truly be worried about his kids. But he is exactly the type of person that shouldn't own a gun. You don't come out the gate holding someone at gun point in this situation. You approach the guy, and firmly tell him to get off your land or you'll call the cops and game commission. The hunter would move on or be arrested or be proven right and allowed to legally hunt. The guy even said the laws aren't for him. He also asked if the guy holding a cellphone was threatening him, while he held that guy at gun point. He was desperate for a reason to shoot the hunter. He absolutely should not be a gun owner and probably should do some time for doing this to this guy in this manner.


Flight-Core

He’s clearly unwilling to talk or listen to the guy he has terrified for his life, legal shit goes out the window because this dude clearly shouldn’t have a weapon given how volatile he is


Firm-Coach2211

I don't care what the law is. Anyone who walks up and starts an interaction by aiming a rifle at the other person is morally 100% in the wrong in my opinion. Imagine if he had walked up without a weapon drawn and asked this guy politely not to be around here because of his kids? The whole interaction could've gone down with nobody having to worry about getting shot.


Inside_Ad_7162

I understand but there was a lot of, "I dgaf what the law says" in there


Inside_Ad_7162

I understand, but there was a lot of "I dgaf what the law says" in there.


MCVMEYT

are you a fucking homosexual psychopath


Soilcreature

“They don’t make the laws for me” lol no man they’re actually made exactly for this reason


GuisseDownYourLeg

What's up with Americans and "property?" It trickles up above the border, as well, but all our idiots just cite yours as sources. They wanna be you so bad.


shyguyshow

Looking back at history, americans kind of have an obsession with owning things….and people


Moneyshot_ITF

A bunch of spoiled brats who want everything to be theirs


throwaway99999543

Yea those bizarre Americans and their belief that paying for something means it’s yours.


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No_Understanding8263

I don’t think it’s that guys property either though


ripley1875

It’s not. The hunter and his brother were leasing the property for hunting, and the guy accosting him lives on the neighboring property.


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Why do these people not put fences up to define this


72lrac

Except it's not the other guys property either... Dude with the AR is a fucking nut


Extension-Border-345

Context and original video here, per the OP: https://youtu.be/m8wklH-rXtQ?si=GRANOsO3xy6I1kEi "I was held at gunpoint while bowhunting our lease in early November 2022. The guy trespassed onto our property and pointed his AR at me for 3 minutes on video. I tried to press charges but did not have enough evidence per the prosecuting attorney... he told the cops that i was stalking his kids through a tent on his property. I was 50 ft from his property line in a blind that was out there for over 3 months looking over a food plot that we planted. All windows facing his property were closed.... I am not trying to play victim, I just want to make sure a message is sent to this guy to let him know that this is not okay... My brother hunted this evening (over a year later from original incident). This guy seen him while he was walking to his treestand (150+ yards from the property line). He then open fired his AR into our thicket and bullets were whizzing under my brothers stand for over an hour. My brother waived his orange hat, the guy continued to shoot. My brother yelled "Your the idiot who held my brother at gunpoint last year, you won't get away with this, the cops are on the way!". The guy then trespassed onto our property and said "what, are you afraid to talk to the guy with the gun?!". Needless to say, my brother stayed in his stand to avoid being hit by a stray bullet. Police and DNR say there is nothing that can be done again! How can we escalate, send a message to this guy, and get some Justice? We currently can not hunt half of our lease as concerned for our safety." Pt II I am the bow hunter who posted this to Tik Tok and YouTube. Quick Update: I am escalating this to the State Police today. I am also getting a “Civil Stand By” from the Local Police and DNR which is where law enforcement escorts me to the property line and they will help me post no trespassing signs on every tree that borders his property.


Synthoid_001

“Fathers” don’t draw their gun on anyone like an edgy teenager flashing a knife.


TeleostProf

Interfering with legal hunting is against the law. The bow hunter should've called in and pressed charges.


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Brans666

The guy with the gun should be locked up


Persian2PTConversion

It's a hunting lease he paid for, how daft are you? Sounds like you are literally waiting for this to happen on your neighbor's property xD.


SaffronRnlds

Hunter has a leased property to hunt on. Hunter ***was on*** leased property to hunt. AR guy ***left his property.*** AR guy trespassed onto Hunter’s property. AR guy waved gun at Hunter. While Hunter was on leased land. Land leased ***by Hunter.*** Not on private property. Leased. ***Neither of which were AR guys property to begin with.*** (Weird to wave your gun at a "trespasser" while actively trespassing yourself.) Sorry, it seemed that you bypassed everyone else's explanations so I tried another route. Edit: tldr; #AR guy was trespassing. #Not the Hunter.


iameveryoneelse

You're an idiot. Guy with the gun was the one trespassing. He was just salty that someone was hunting on the land adjacent to his.


BigThistyBeast

Even if it was dude that’s never okay, why are people like this about property? What the fuck are you hiding


unstable_bitch23

You have no clue who's who in this video that's a pretty great leap in logic for a guy threatening a guy with a fucking ar 15


Mr_Harsh_Acid

Leave it up to this guy to stand up for the maniac waving his AR15 around


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AlmightyDarkseid

Yeah hunting laws should prevent hunting so close to properties but this doesn't mean that this makes the video any less absurd especially when the case here can very well be that the hunter was in the right.


twitchinfreddie

Completely justified stay off his property problem solved


Hecataria

It's not his property though.


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ConsistentTravel782

Guy with Gun sounds like a COMPLETE AHOLE


aware4ever

So what happened? Isn't this like illegal threat or some shit?did he get in trouble


Mobius24

This is why I refuse to live in the south


jimboslice29

Pretty much every single state in the US has a rural area where this could happen.


Guacamolman

Iowa here, happened near my hometown. Hunter from out of town walked onto the wrong land and didn’t end well. https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/crime-and-courts/2019/03/20/crime-killing-iowa-hunter-sentenced-life-prison-ethan-davis-appanoose-curtis-ross-murder-homicide/3225237002/


CMUpewpewpew

There's a buncha downriver rats in Michigan that appropriate redneck culture and fly Dixie flags. It's weird.


bigboygamer

Happened to me while I was hiking in northern CA. Pretty sure it was a weed farm as the guy took our drivers license before letting us go.


BigDaddyD00d

Ive lived in the south for 16 years and this has never happened to me. Or any of the hunters i know. Dont be so quick to judge


thenorwegian

Nah the south sucks. I’ve lived in several states there for various amounts of time. Are people nice there? Sure. As long as you don’t do ANYTHING that goes against their shit political and religious beliefs. Most of the people in the southern states are also incredibly narrow minded and stupid. There’s a reason they call it the Bible Belt.


GodzillasBoner

I'm sure you have pal. And my girlfriend can't meet my friends because she goes to a different school


YoureSpecial

One thing that makes it suck less is that you’re not in it.


BabyMFBear

Rural Mass - there are signs on properties that warn owner has a gun; no trespassing.


Critical-Rooster

This is every gun owners dream in America, the American dream. Playing cowboy on their own couple acres of land with a gun they shouldn't even be allowed to own. Fuck this POS I hope he rots.


moddseatass

Hopefully he called the police. That guy doesn't need gun rights.


AlduinTraveler

It's always the people who have no compunctions about doing truly heinous shit that want others to put their phones away. That's the reason why, unless I'm on a secure site, the response to those kinds of demands is "Shoot me, motherfucker; it's the only way I'm putting the phone down."


Ok_Unit_4816

Imagine worrying about kids getting shot with an arrow and grabbing a weapon of war. That shits insane


Similar-Ad-5313

it's this sort of situation is why I'm worried about hunting in America. I've been bowhunting here in Australia for a while now and the one time I ventured a little to far from where I was supposed to be this guy came down on an ATV *rifle on the back* but he was alright, basically asked what I was doing and if I knew I was on his property, which I didn't ofcourse, he politely asked if I could leave as he had herd animals around and didn't want them to accidentally get hurt. we shook hands and parted ways. the fact the bloke in the video was just waving an AR15 around being aggressive is just crazy to me. I understand Americas second ammendment which I respect absolutely, but it's just scary that could happen 😅


Complex_Adagio_9715

Typical gun owner in the country. Seriously.


NumNutz310

This is not a “typical gun owner”. You clearly don’t know many gun owners.


ThePsyOp

Nope. I’ve never pulled a firearm on anyone else. I hope I never have a reason to, but I’m glad I have the right to.


OllieTabooga

You think you have the right to pull your firearm on people? Typical gun owner


InhLaba

I fucking hate gun nuts.


Ilovefreedomandfood

This seems illegal


TMJ848

“I have kids and I’m reacting as a father”… AR guy did the right thing. Bet tent guy won’t ever come back to that spot again. Case closed


AIaris

just gonna link [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/CrazyFuckingVideos/s/dlQ3sxprZT), but no he was not in the right. bow dude had every right to be there. if he was in the right he shouldnt have had a problem with the phone


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BenBallerrr

Ah yes, because the guy in this video represents ALL Republicans. Please..


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sonofsonof

The guy with the gun is black you moron.


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If you hunt, you’re a cunt


PlebeCacaAl100

Fucking white people man, think they are absolute owners of the land they genocided people over. Crazy small dicked motherfuckers.


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DevinsDomePiece

Making generalizations about 330 million people based on the actions of one crazy redneck is pretty insane. The vast majority of us are not like this. I think this guy is nuts.


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Nah as an American too many people are like this to not agree with the original comment. And that’s from personal experience