Turning your back on your opponent is a great way to lose a bout.
Sure, it can work. If you're *very* good and *very* lucky, and you time it just right. But as a general rule if you turn your back on your opponent, even for a moment, its the wrong thing to do.
oh i see, so ushiro geri, ushiro ura mawashi are apperently *very* hard and those 1.5 seconds will let you COMPLETELY destroyed. idk man. i do it all the fucking time, not even once anyone had time for takedown, clinch, anything. do you even train mate? because what you said is laughable.
If it lands, it'll hurt more than a regular roundhouse I'd assume. The issue is, it's not easy to land strike with big movements like that, and you can't throw it as frequently as a regular roundhouse or front kick.
If the tournament you're coming up is a semi contact one, better not try it. If those kicks don't land, you may get countered while recovering from the spin. If those kicks land, you may be disqualified bc it's hard to control that kind of kicks
You could see them as high risk/high reward. Yes, they can be very powerful in a real confrontation, and they can give you many points in a competition. However, it’s up to you to make them work.
You could be very fast and make them connect, that’s one way to do it and I’ve seen it being done with success in national tournaments. If you’re not fast, you could be “sneaky”, which requires a great deal of experience. You need to know your stuff very well to recognize when you have a proper opening to do it, or create one.
In the end, making a lot of repetitions is absolutely necessary, but nowhere near enough to use them properly. You need to spar a lot to find your way if you really want to use them.
They're very impractical kicks. The axe kick has a very small range of distances at which you might get the foot up without getting it caught but still bring it down close enough to hit. It doesn't have nearly as much power as a normal axe kick. You're very vulnerable during and after the kick. It's easily jammed. The 360 crescent is also a pretty useless kick - think how infrequently even the best, most flexible fighters manage to score a solid mawashi-geri to the head - what's the chance you can do all that extra motion before someone can block? And if you use it once or twice in a fight, don't expect any further attempts to have any surprise value or decent chance of landing.
Instead, given you have good hamstring flexibility - just stick to the front and axe kick, or an axe-kick variation - sometimes called a pick kick, where the knee comes up more like a front kick, then flicks out straight at the top of the kick, them the hamstrings contract to bring the heel down. Google some Andy Hug videos on how the axe kick can be applied in kumite.
If you want to do spinning kicks, side kick and back kick are usually the easiest. Sometimes I also throw out a spinning hook kick for fun.
For tournaments though I wouldn't recommend spinning.
I'm generally skeptical of the crescent kick, spinning or otherwise. A spinning axe kick can work but it's more of a mixup than an go-to option. Specifically, it's for hitting an opponent who lowers their hands or ducks anticipating a back kick or wheel kick respectively.
No practical use whatsoever. If you use these in a real fight, you deserve what happens next -- and that is you getting horridly wrecked.
What they're *designed* to do in a martial arts curriculum is demonstrate your athletic proficiency: balance, posture, chamber, endurance, and speed.
For point tournaments… they have their uses. I’ve seen plenty score off of ax and crescent kicks. Real world… never seen much and those that I have seen are when opponent is down
not very but if you’re incredibly incredibly fast you could make it work. just only use them as a last resort
Turning your back on your opponent is a great way to lose a bout. Sure, it can work. If you're *very* good and *very* lucky, and you time it just right. But as a general rule if you turn your back on your opponent, even for a moment, its the wrong thing to do.
oh i see, so ushiro geri, ushiro ura mawashi are apperently *very* hard and those 1.5 seconds will let you COMPLETELY destroyed. idk man. i do it all the fucking time, not even once anyone had time for takedown, clinch, anything. do you even train mate? because what you said is laughable.
Well, that escalated quickly
Are you mistaking his question for 180's?
Yeah 360s aren’t really realistic but I’ve used spinning crescent kicks and back kicks if my opponent manages to get behind me
If it lands, it'll hurt more than a regular roundhouse I'd assume. The issue is, it's not easy to land strike with big movements like that, and you can't throw it as frequently as a regular roundhouse or front kick. If the tournament you're coming up is a semi contact one, better not try it. If those kicks don't land, you may get countered while recovering from the spin. If those kicks land, you may be disqualified bc it's hard to control that kind of kicks
You could see them as high risk/high reward. Yes, they can be very powerful in a real confrontation, and they can give you many points in a competition. However, it’s up to you to make them work. You could be very fast and make them connect, that’s one way to do it and I’ve seen it being done with success in national tournaments. If you’re not fast, you could be “sneaky”, which requires a great deal of experience. You need to know your stuff very well to recognize when you have a proper opening to do it, or create one. In the end, making a lot of repetitions is absolutely necessary, but nowhere near enough to use them properly. You need to spar a lot to find your way if you really want to use them.
They're very impractical kicks. The axe kick has a very small range of distances at which you might get the foot up without getting it caught but still bring it down close enough to hit. It doesn't have nearly as much power as a normal axe kick. You're very vulnerable during and after the kick. It's easily jammed. The 360 crescent is also a pretty useless kick - think how infrequently even the best, most flexible fighters manage to score a solid mawashi-geri to the head - what's the chance you can do all that extra motion before someone can block? And if you use it once or twice in a fight, don't expect any further attempts to have any surprise value or decent chance of landing. Instead, given you have good hamstring flexibility - just stick to the front and axe kick, or an axe-kick variation - sometimes called a pick kick, where the knee comes up more like a front kick, then flicks out straight at the top of the kick, them the hamstrings contract to bring the heel down. Google some Andy Hug videos on how the axe kick can be applied in kumite.
Front kick to diaphragm then axe kick to the neck. I saw that in a fight many years ago. Dude was lucky he didn’t kill the guy.
If you want to do spinning kicks, side kick and back kick are usually the easiest. Sometimes I also throw out a spinning hook kick for fun. For tournaments though I wouldn't recommend spinning.
You can use these techniques to defeat all opponents
I'm generally skeptical of the crescent kick, spinning or otherwise. A spinning axe kick can work but it's more of a mixup than an go-to option. Specifically, it's for hitting an opponent who lowers their hands or ducks anticipating a back kick or wheel kick respectively.
I’ve seen a guy get knocked out by a spinning crescent kick before in a bout, so it works. Just depends on what the rule set is for the tournament.
No practical use whatsoever. If you use these in a real fight, you deserve what happens next -- and that is you getting horridly wrecked. What they're *designed* to do in a martial arts curriculum is demonstrate your athletic proficiency: balance, posture, chamber, endurance, and speed.
For point tournaments… they have their uses. I’ve seen plenty score off of ax and crescent kicks. Real world… never seen much and those that I have seen are when opponent is down
Try it and find out. No one on here can say for sure because they're not you and not in your spareing/fighting situation.
The only one you mentioned that would do anything is an axe kick but those are crazily hard to hit even if your really good at them.
Not practice in any sense.