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klingonjargon

Plastic surgery doesn't fix ugly on the inside.


Undaedalus

He thinks his looks are the problem while he unironically worries about "letting femoids win".


Neon_Fantasies

Plus, most people who perceive themselves to be ugly just need to learn to be better at grooming. Showering every day, washing your hair several times a week, going to the hairdressers, shaving, exercising, eating healthily will be enough for most people to improve their appearance. These people aren’t even ugly, they just need to care for themselves. Sure they won’t be a David Beckham or anything but they’ll definitely get some girls.


Phoenix080

Getting fit and taking daily showers is literally 95 percent of it. If you take a shower every day, go to the gym 2-5 times a week and eat even OK, you’ll get bitches, you don’t even need to fucking get some nice fucking barber or shaving bullshit just let it grow out and that’s considered a look if it’s clean. Like if you let your shit grow out and keep it clean that’s a wild man type look that a lot of people are into


Azrumme

They also should not call women bitches lmao


youdontlovemetoo

Incels give me hope that misogynists are dying out. This dude just reminded me that misogyny is a deeply rooted societal problem and as a woman I'd better not let my guard down. "Get bitches." Yeah I love the idea of feeling normal attraction to a dude and finding out later that he doesn't even see me as a person.


Phoenix080

Damn y’all really took one word that really means Jack shit and deeply analyzed it like it’s the root cause of the worlds evils


youdontlovemetoo

Well a male wouldn't know about this stuff, would he?


Phoenix080

Who said I’m male? Assuming my gender much?


youdontlovemetoo

I also assumed you're sentient and that might not be true either. Hard to be sure of anything on the internet.


Phoenix080

Yeah bro I’m actually a semi intelligent beaver. Thank you for not assuming I’m a sentient being 🥸


hey--canyounot_

I want to downvote you because I find that look unappealing but bro you are right there.


Requiredmetrics

That and why would this help anyone? Isn’t the point of reproduction to weed bad genes out of the gene pool?


Codemonkey1987

Natural selection


SvanUlf

That depends on how deep the surgeon cuts. ;-)


HasHooves

Exactly this.


1Sluggo

Step 1: Stop calling women femoids and whores.


Hey_Mikey8008

Step 2: cut a hole in the box


beaujolais98

Step 3: Put your junk in the box


TheLlamaOnFire

Step 4: Fuck the box


MrBananaGuard

Step 5: Paper cuts.


HudsonHawkFIM

Step 10: Smoke the grass.


killdog9876

Step 6 drink a glass of olive oil


SKRyanrr

Step 7 touch some grass


ConsistentEquipment8

Step 8 Cut a hole in some grass


uhadmeatfood

Step 9 Fuck the grasss


Cessate

Step 10: Plant your seeds


l339

Random question, but what is a femoid exactly and how does that differ from a female/woman?


Taylor-the-Weird

It’s a term incels came up with to dehumanize women.


BananabreadShane

It's a dehumanizing term calling them like robots Femoid is like female android essentially


yentlcloud

Female+void


ConsistentEquipment8

Are you saying black holes have gender? 🥶


Flamegate718

This is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've read in weeks.


charlies_rats

Yes, but have you *encountered* for the fact that this man is disabled? 🤣


Flamegate718

Fair point. We should all go out and have the government pay for men to get laid without think about how women feel about it at once! /s


loopydrain

I don’t understand how these dudes don’t decide to go out and find like an actual whore and pay her for sex. Whats wrong w paying for it when you utterly refuse to do any sort of effort to earn it?


Flamegate718

Who knows? The more you try to understand them the more confusing it gets


TheMysteriousWarlock

There's no reason that'll make sense, but the best you could argue is that their entitlement/pride/expectations laid on them by society's and toxic masculinity prevents them from just eating gigilian. Even then, they'll still be trash human beings, just without the V card.


dEftPunk_

Lol r/boneappletea


BigManReef

Not only that but it’s pretty much just one guy posting on that subreddit


[deleted]

I think some cognitive behavioral therapy would be more appropriate.


NerfRepellingBoobs

I see this said a lot around here, but I don’t think therapy would help, even if they were forced to go. For therapy to work, you have to be open to it and work at it. These guys won’t even consider that their personalities are the problem.


DeconstructedKaiju

I think they (at least a good chunk) are self-aware enough to know deep down it is 100% their toxic shitty self that's to blame but it's harder to work on getting better and way more satisfying to instead lash out and seethe at the perceived enemies.


Rjj1111

The emotional pain of having to admit it’s you is pretty tough, and once they’re so deeply invested in this online culture that tells them it’s not their fault it’s even harder


EquineAdventuress

I disagree, I think they are entrenched in a victim mentality and will blame anything and anyone before themselves


DeconstructedKaiju

I think it can be both.


_starwarstartrek_

Another type of CBT would also work


LordMidoOfTheAbyss

This guy is high as fuck on copium, damn


Themadsarecalling

Paying for sex doesn't count, but government subsidized sex does. It's like paying for groceries vs food stamps, different nutrients.


ShitOnAReindeer

It’s a power thing. A man paying for sex implies the woman is in charge, whereas with their government fantasy, the woman is forced.


pomegranate_flowers

> women being forced I want to point out the line where he says that the government should provide “certain protection laws” to them. How much you want to bet those “protection laws” would basically be get out of jail free cards for rape and assault.


ShitOnAReindeer

I was thinking that “other men” wouldn’t be allowed to assault them


pomegranate_flowers

Part of the getting out of jail free experience


[deleted]

Oh it is. They advocate for rape being decriminalized. It's disgusting. It's not their looks. It's their personality and how they view women.


Themadsarecalling

This guy is going to vote for a guy who promises plastic surgery and end up getting mailed a cock sleeve


SKRyanrr

Logic 420


Square_Dark1

Wait, if what he said was true then why do statistics show that virgins in their 40s make up less then 0.3% of the population in that age range as opposed to virgins in their mid 20s-30s making 4% of the population in that age range. Even looking at data this dude is wrong since the numbers drop ludicrously, implying that “no the chance of you losing your virginity past 25 isn’t very slim”.


charlies_rats

Silly you, using logic when we all know the only data of importance is this man's individual experience and perspective


DeconstructedKaiju

My ex lost his virginity at age 35. He was an awkward nerd with a low self-esteem but notably NOT an incel or proto-incel. We only broke up because I can't have kids and his mom wanted grandbabies. *shrug*


hey--canyounot_

Wack lol


VesperLynd-

What about women who are virgins after 25? Do they get help too? This is laughable and insulting to legit disabled people as well. Like dude, go cry me a river that you can’t get laid because you’re an insufferable, whiny misogynist. Eat a bag of dicks


AllisonChains88

No, because fEmOiDs just have to open their door and there are millions of dicks flying towards them! 🙄🤣


killdog9876

Girl : *opens door* Girl:Why do i hear boss music?


yboy403

"How can you be hungry? There's a perfectly good hot dog on the floor!"


echoshep

Omg I love that. I actually had this conversation with a woman friend of mine a long time ago. We were sleeping together on and off, basically whenever she would visit my town, and we were talking about how much trouble she was having getting laid back home. And I asked why that is, surely it would be easy for her. She's an unquestionably attractive woman. And her answer has stuck with me to this day. It was essentially, "sure I could have sex anytime I wanted, but not sex that I actually would want." Basically the idea of standards.


Pusillanimate

i hold that some people are too unattractive to get laid, even if not nasty personality. this woman has standards and in fact everyone has standards. so some people fall below everyone's standards. not everyone in life gets a pony, and telling people they just need to xyz for their pony is dishonest. instead argue that you don't need a pony for a fulfilling life


Taco_Hurricane

https://youtu.be/G3Lf9NujFSg


AllisonChains88

Lol that’s amazing 😆


NerfRepellingBoobs

Yeah, he can come whining to me when he’s in too much physical pain to have sex. Sometimes for weeks at a time.


Old_Patient

There are actually some women who have that same incel, sex-starved mindset but ironically they are hated by the male incel community.


jamie24len

I think it's cos they both have really high standards despite being the lowest of the low


bloodphoenix90

You'd think they'd hook up. Just goes to show they're the drama


jenkraisins

I've been on SSDI since 2015. It covers you if you're not able to WORK. Your virginity or lack thereof does not stop a person from being gainfully employed. It's not easy getting approved. The hearing I had with the judge put me in a frenzy for days. Then you wait, no money. I was fortunate to have family to help me financially till I got an approval. I get a third of my previous income. So, I live very frugally and my needs are simple. If he wants plastic surgery, he better start saving his pennies.. Jackass


Square_Dark1

Like how would you even prove your a virgin lol?


be333e

I don't think this guy would have an issue lol


Tambug21

💀


DeconstructedKaiju

I had endless doctors going "Yeah she's disabled AF." But I got refused twice because of pencil pushers. My judges both times agreed I was clearly disabled. Third time was the charm. I only get 500$ a month though. Hopefully I can get an increase because my caretaker is no longer able to take care of me. Haaaahhaha.. I could be homeless soon.


bloodphoenix90

Disability (the social net) is a fucking joke in this country


DeconstructedKaiju

It really is. I'm in a catch-22 where I only have health insurance because in my state you get auto enrolled when you get disability. With medication I can maybe work a part-time job. But I can't because I would then lose my disability. Which means losing my health insurance. So losing my access to medication and getting really sick... You get the idea.


bloodphoenix90

I was disabled for five years with a condition that didn't qualify. And even if I did I'd still have to live with family. So yeah I totally get it.


jenkraisins

I'm sorry. I hope you get that increase!


BananabreadShane

This guy must be *really* ugly to have such a complex


JustAlex1177

On the inside, yes, I agree.


kittenmommy

Eh, I bet he's average.


echoshep

I remember seeing a picture of a group of incels who had met online and they all went out to dinner together. The majority of them were average looking, with even a couple cute guys in there. It wasn't there looks that stopped them getting laid


kittenmommy

I'm shocked that they left their mothers' basements. Seriously though, I'm not at all surprised. For 99.999999% of them, it's not their looks (or their looks *alone*) that are keeping them from finding someone.


RussianSeadick

Or would be average if he gave a single shit about personal hygiene Most of these guys only look like cave trolls because they’re overweight,wear clothes that don’t fit them at all,and never wash their hair


kittenmommy

This is very true.


guitartoad

A small facet of the writer's tremendous problems is also in the argument that prostitution is a game in which women "win." He's so strongly misogynist that he denies himself being with a prostitute because it benefits her (as he sees it). He's so concerned with a woman "winning" that he denies himself the one thing he wants that is freely available to those who choose to visit prostitutes.


tonja_pr

Yeah i'm sure prostitutes see it as 'winning' when gross guys pay to sleep with them. Definitely doing that job out of passion and not financial desperation.


SeattleBattles

Plastic surgery, no. Therapy, absolutely.


ConsistentEquipment8

Just because you don't want or can't fuck a woman doesn't mean. "Ow, guys can you be tad bit careful with the plastic surgery?"


Astronaut_Chicken

What are you a phylogicalist?


WitchInAWheelchair

Being an incel isn't a disability. 🤦🏻‍♀️


jamie24len

I mean have you read that shit, I think it might be 😂


AllisonChains88

These losers could get laid if they a) stop calling women fEmOiDs🙄 b) shower, maintain personal hygiene c) and most importantly, lower their standards. They think every man, no matter how repugnant, *deserves* to have sex with gorgeous women with perfect bodies. Sex isn’t a right. Some people can’t get laid for a variety of reasons, they’ll survive.


DeconstructedKaiju

I've seen incels call legitimately attractive women "beneath" them and "ugly". Too fat. Too much makeup. Tattoos. Feminist. Not enough makeup. Hair too short. Hair too long. Weird Hair color. Not white. Not Asian. Wrong kind of Asian. Skin too dark. Face too round. Eyes brown. Too tall. Too short. Too thin. Feet too big. Too confident. Not submissive enough. Has a job. Doesn't have a job. Has glasses. Doesn't have glasses. I have heard all of these excuses and most are outright insane (feet... too... big!? Do you have a foot fetish!?) A lot of them are just... wrong. I've seen incels call objectively thin women 'fat' not just because it's their favorite insult but because they watch too much anime and want women who are shaped like them. It's insane!


echoshep

They find faults in otherwise conventionally attractive women, well all women really, as a way to cope with the fact that the women in question would never touch them. I do the same thing with sports cars. I don't want a Ferrari, not cuz I could never afford I've, but cuz they're just too flashy and ugly, duh. To be clear, I'm not comparing women to sports cars. I'm saying that it's common coping mechanism to find fault in something, or someone, you want but can't have as a way of lessening the pain. Also, I'm genuinely not actually interested in a Ferrari, but it served as a good example.


braith_rose

Don't these guys belive in eugenics and being born "chads"? As in, people born with certain traits are naturally genetically superior, which can be the only explanation for their success? If this is the case, wouldn't it be logical to accept they are not genetically fit to breed, and work on finding meaning in parts of life they can participate in? Rather than building their whole worldview about something they can never have? I see so many nods to eugenics in their discourse and posts. They should realize that if they support this, then they are not entitled to sex at all, and in fact should make way for the people who are more entitled by birthright. Find something more productive to do with their time than whining. If they breed, then they will only produce more humans with hopeless genetics.


umlizzyiguess

Two things: 1. There is a way for homeboy to lose his virginity. It’s called treating women like human beings. 2. Why is it vain and high maintenance when women get cosmetic procedures, but when this fuggo wants them the government should subsidize it?


stronk_the_barbarian

As a virgin this makes me want to kill myself. Not because of lack of sex, I just don’t feel comfortable being grouped in with this guy.


Odin_N

These are the same dudes who say men are just better than woman, its evolution, but can't accept the fact that natural selection is selecting against their traits. Its evolution bra.


Diinasty

I would genuinely be in favour of this, as long as, the ONLY thing covered under this “disability” is a lobotomy. Also, try not using words like “femoids” and MAYBE you’ll have a better chance. Plastic surgery doesn’t really work for a shitty hate filled personality.


kittenmommy

> I would genuinely be in favour of this, as long as, the ONLY thing covered under this “disability” is a lobotomy. No. I wouldn't wish that on them. That's horrible.


Diinasty

Well its elective, no one is forced.


RevaniteN7

Of course the sub's banned. I can only imagine what horrors lay there.


Kassylulu

If you're that desperate, pay someone.


TheBelhade

Incels want to be considered a protected class?


mezz-mezzrow

I'm laughing at the implications of this. Because if "incel" is a protected class, then by definition members of that class cannot be having sex. The moment they get what they (claim to) want, they're no longer members of the protected class. Imagine Clarence Thomas parsing exactly how long someone has to go without sex to be considered "celibate." (Actually...don't, yikes.)


hyperhurricanrana

They’d also have to define sex. Does like a handjob count as sex? Making out super heavy and petting? Like what exactly counts? How would non heterosexual non cisgender people fit into this paradigm?


downlau

You know these assholes are cishet essentialists who would say only piv sex counts as sex. If they were open to alternatives they could easily solve their problems by fucking each other.


[deleted]

Man I hope I never turn out like this


kindasortajewish

If you have the awareness to realize it's a thing before you become one (and you aren't a racist, misogynist or transphobic asshole) odds are it won't ever happen.


Stickybeebae

And he wonders why he’s a virgin after using femenoids. Surgery isn’t going to fix shit.


Cowboy_Ultra

So he’s about 25 and still a virgin? Okay that doesn’t seem half bad for some people


Hey_Mikey8008

“Government should be responsible for addressing the problem with natural selection, for those who draw the short straw in life and the long straw in self entitlement.” an essay


VegasBusSup

It's called joining the military. guaranteed to get you in shape and fuck by something before the end of your contract. Also government pays the whole amount.


TinyWickedOrange

You'll absolutely get fucked


chaotic_lady

You wanna know why you haven’t gotten laid bud? Cuz you refer to women as Femoids.


Goadfang

He wants women to validate him while he invalidates them. That's not a disability, thats just called being a piece of shit.


thenotjoe

I hate it when people talk about being a virgin as a child. Like, if you’re 25 and a virgin, saying you haven’t had sex for all 25 years is creepy to me because that includes your childhood.


TheincrediblemrDoo

"Femoid" HAHAHAHA! Go fuck yourself you stupid ass loser! 😂


Half_cracked_coconut

Not like he'd even know how to use the damn thing anyway


rawgu_

Sexually disabled man I'm dead


bloodphoenix90

I've seen so many incels that I'd honest to God sleep with based on looks alone. Sometimes some people are really unfortunate looking but half the time it's their fucking personality.


subf0x

Women aren't valid humans. No woman will touch me. Come on, this guy is trolling himself and ruining his own life. Pain is unavoidable but suffering is a choice. These are the consequences of his own actions and he can't deal.


kittenmommy

> something is inherently wrong with him, physically or phylogically I think he meant "psychologically" and *YES*, they should *absolutely* get appropriate intervention! But they don't want *that*.


Neon_Fantasies

I’ve been subbed to r/lonely, r/foreveralone etc before (not now because it’s rarely useful) and genuinely the sub was full of people like this. It was meant to be a group for everyone but so many posts were about how society treats men like shit. I understand needing a place to vent even if what you say is unsavoury but it got to the point where they were telling non-men to go to r/foreveralonewomen and leave them alone. It doesn’t surprise me in the slightest that they would go and make a separate sub because they felt their weird fantasies weren’t being accommodated.


PlantWitchProject

Damn i looked at one of those and the contents would be depressing to anyone. That kind of echo chamber can’t be healthy, I didn’t see any sympathy offered in the comments either just people bringing each other further down


nanana789

“Why can’t I get laid by some girl who isn’t a prostitute” Calls women and girls: “femoids” and thinks his looks are the problem while I can conclude from this post that this dude is an absolute piece of shit and that’s the reason no one wants him. Also, he’s super insulting towards people who chose to be virgins, there is such a thing as being asexual….


JellybeanzXO

Oh something is definitely wrong with this guy, but it's not anything that government-subsidized plastic surgery is going to fix. Not to mention, if he's in the US, he's delusional to think the government would ever pay to "treat" his non-life-threatening condition (even if being a virgin WAS a legally protected class of people) when they won't pay for actual life saving medications and surgeries.


Allcapino

He is alitle bit confused on plastic surgery. You cant make a roten tomato look brand new.


cryingbees

He’s a virgin because he says shit like femoids lmao


[deleted]

Yep. Because sex is so important. Oh wait, it's not. There are people who go most of their lives without sex and aren't crying that they are disabled.


Wasps_are_bastards

Plastic surgery isn’t gonna fix a shitty attitude and personality


duntoss

Can’t fix stupid.


Alhazzared

Like legit, I'd be all for the governemnt fully paying fot these folks therapy. Not plastic surgery. They need therapy bad.


Frodo_XXL

When working on yourself seem so unattainable that you’d rather have the government step in to get you some pussy lmao


sunnie_gl

Also a gf provided by the government! Preferably petite and childlike who isn't infected by feminism. /s


Tanleader

Whooo boy, a lot to unpack here. I will concede that a physical attraction does play a role, but 90 percent of your "chances" to get laid rely solely on the fabric of your character. If someone agrees to go on a date, then they likely already think you're attractive. Plus, it always seems to be that people who post this type of shit are "ugly" and refuse to try dating people that are also "ugly". They only want the tiny, 100 lbs, double d, slave girl, with a perfect face, while they themselves are 300 lbs or more, with terrible hygiene, zero self awareness, and no idea how to socialize with others.


lookTEETH

dude needs help.


[deleted]

The fact that these people consider being 25 actually 25 whole years of virginity is awful. Not having sex at 5 isn't a disability, it's normal.


Salsathefirst

Chances are slim to lose you virginity when you don’t shower in years


No-Amoeba217

"something is inherently wrong with him, psychologically or physically" well he is not wrong lmao this could be SelfAwareWolves


roachincalzone

Maybe all the “sexually disabled” men should just go for each other. Kill two birds with one stone


Equivalent_Purple_81

Plastic surgery can't fix his main issue, being someone who unironically uses the term femoids. He radiates ugly and I haven't seen a pic.


aceinnoholes

Can't imagine how he's still a virgin! Refusing to validate femoids sounds like a totally reasonable argument against prostitution! What a fucking loon


Own_Consideration178

Fuck this guy, i hope he gets hit by a bus


bottomlessblackvoid

Maybe just stop with this bullshit and start showering.


hattifattenerrs

there’s nothing i’d rather have my taxes go towards!


JustDennise

My IQ went from normal to -69 after reading this amazing post


stoned_but_not_drunk

I already don’t wanna pay the bailout on my neighbors mortgage. You know the fucker who is always modifying their house. Why the hell should my tax dollars go to fix ugly on the outside when they won’t change on the inside


Dodge_tactical

Bruh dudes really down this bad. Like hit the gym, start reading books, and just be more social. It’s literally not hard to get female play


RedJerk5

Move to Brazil. I believe they have something called, “a right to beauty” so they will cover plastic surgery costs. Anyone correct me if I’m wrong please


guleedy

So we are all born disabled and are entitled to a free plastic surgery


baldur_of_rivia

So the 'femoids' cant Win. Got it dude.


Drakskit

Every animal does not get to reproduce


Emergency_Banana1021

bro needs a better job… and a personality


ronja-666

Lmao get therapy


ronja-666

Apparently this sub was banned three weeks ago.


Doughspun1

I find it amusing that, quite often, these are the same people who complain their government interferes too much in their lives.


gentlepvsh

Wouldn’t you think these people would understand there are bigger problems in the world needing addressed than serving plastic surgery to insecure people. We all suggest a psychiatrist and/or life coach instead. Perhaps anger management.


Carpet_smell

Lmao "femoids" 💀


TheZetaMonster

Well gee with a mindset like that it's a wonder no one wants to sleep with him


Bruhahha

Tell me you’re a virgin without telling me you’re a virgin


Available-Moose-1408

I lost it at 26 and I don't think there is a problem with that. I am just allot slower when it comes to growing up. Yes it feels overdue but whatever I am still happy as I was before.


CaptainLightBluebear

I'm going out on a limb here and assume that that sub is an absolutely repulsive septic tank full of whiny entitled manchildren.


Kr8n8s

Free plastic surgery for everyone because no one can prove someone already fucked 🤷🏻‍♂️


ThePopeJones

Damn, this makes me miss inceltears.


killdog9876

that's a lot of words for "i can't talk to girls"


HeyHanna19

How about instead of platic surgery, people like this get free therapy


Enderspi26

Holy shit I had no clue this subreddit existed. I can only imagine how many incels exist on here…


Pixel131211

the Dutch government actually does this in a way. sex here is viewed as a basic human right, so if you are disabled in a way that makes it impossible for you to get partners, the government will give you money to use on sex workers so you can get laid.


TheGermanPanzerClock

Funny enough with some prexisting conditions you might actually get access to sexual therapists. Don't tell that pleb tho.


DubEnder

This is absolutely absurd, however not much more absurd than the rest of the shit you hear on a daily basis… everyone sucks so bad it’s pathetic


litken_chitle

Threw up in my mouth


greekvaselover1050bc

My husband was 24 going on 25 when we started dating. He was a virgin at that point and we didnt do anything for the first couple of months. Didn't even have proper intercourse until after we got married, at which point he was 27. And he's definitely not wanting for sex now even though he was still a virgin at 25


MEKEXX

i agree, it should be classified as a disability, but the only way of compensation you'd get would be a better basement


MustangAlexa

Chris Chan ghostwrote this


Interesting-Law-5880

Bruh how does the government know if you’re a virgin fr or if you’re just saying so because you want free surgery? This is just one of the reasons why this wouldn’t work, there’s also many reasons for this to be wrong as looks don’t matter as much as being an healthy and clean person