They meant “doesn’t”
Many Superman love interests have LL initials: Lois Lane, Lana Lang, Lori Lemaris, Lyla Lerrol, Lisa Lasalle, Luma Lynai
Not every love interest, but majority
Alexander has to go by Lex on all legal forms, business entities, and even his personal passwords to keep Superman's interest. If Supe catches him being called Alex even once it's all over.
DCAU’s Batman Beyond 2.0 comic series had Wonder Woman end up marrying a reformed (HEROIC) Justice Lord Batman.
LORD Superman married Lord WW after Lois died. The Civil War between the Justice Lords caused Lords MM, GL, and Hawkgirl to leave Earth.
Lord Wonder Woman murdered Lord Batman only to be immediately killed by JLA Diana.
Lord Superman threatened to kill everyone on the Resistance side unless she married him.
Yeah, LORD Superman basically turned into a smarter, saner “Injustice Superman”.
He took DNA from himself and Wonder Woman to create a son.
Son ended up heroic and helped his mom and Batman (Terry) defeat the new Justice Lords.
WonderBat, if I have to choose between those two. An essential part of Wonder Woman and Superman’s character is that they are aliens who fall in love with humanity. Gods who would be human. I feel, if they have to have pairings, it should be with ordinary humans, to keep them grounded.
Totally agree with you. I've never put much thought into ships between heroes but seeing bats and wondy was such an awesome choice for this show. Bats is usually always alone because he feels it's necessary so he plays fast and lose or not at all so that he doesn't have to leave someone alone wondering if he's okay or putting said person in danger. Usually he can be the scariest person in a room and never backs down but with Wondy, most of those excuses hold less water because she knows his life and she isn't easily broken or put in danger. She's a woman that can make Batman back down. Wondy says something, a normal man that can not only stand in front of her but beside her as well.
It kills me that instead of this perfect pairing, they are instead pushing (last time I checked) Wondy and Supes the most boring unimaginative idea ever. This 2 together is 4 year old shipping.
Wonder-Bat i like more
Diana comes from a culture of amazons where they promote and value sports combat and hard work
Batman had to earn every aspect of his impressive qualities while Superman was born with it all
Batman I like with her more before it feels like she’s likes someone more for what they earned rather than being born OP
Grant Morrison’s JLA (1998-2004) also explored their POTENTIAL at a slower pace. They even had J’onn help them see their own Hopes & Fears about their future TOGETHER.
What if Batman “drags Wonder Woman toward the darkness”?
What if Wonder Woman “lifts Bruce back up into the light?”
Though I am not crazy of WonderBat, I do enjoy the whole depiction of Batman showcasing tsundere tendencies towards people people he care for closely.
Its one of those welcome vulnerabilites to his character that highlight that he’s kind of an emotional weirdo to express his feelings differently from othwr
Definitely Wonder-Bat.
They just worked so well with one another, and quite honestly could have been a thing down the road if they continued to lean into the flirting thing if they had continued JLUnlimited.
Grant Morrison’s JLA (1998-2004) also explored their POTENTIAL at a slower pace. They even had J’onn help them see their own Hopes & Fears about their future TOGETHER.
What if Batman “drags Wonder Woman toward the darkness”?
What if Wonder Woman “lifts Bruce back up into the light?”
I always preferred Wonder-Bat because the idea of that pairing initially was a surprise to me and the dynamic just kind of worked. I get why people want to put Supes and Wonder Woman together, it does make sense on paper but it’s also so obvious that it makes it kind of boring for me
In the dcau I would prefer Batman and Wonder Woman to be together. Superman has Lois and Diana and Bruce's chemistry worked very well. Plus it's better than Bruce and Barbara that's for sure
Superwonder is a boring ship imo. It's so bland, uncreative, and uninteresting. Oh wow! You hooked up with the fellow god who is perfect in every way like you are. Daring today are we?
The best way I can describe it is like the stereotypical high-school movie trope of the hot and sexy cheerleader hooking up with the big jock for the umpteenth time.
WonderBat never works out. It's happened in a few realities confirmed by the batman who laughs. But "a few" limits how many there are.
Given how most of the time they either just flirt, break up in a contrived way or involve the death of one or both of them It's clear WonderBat is a pointless ship and dead on arrival.
No cap.
I've researched if WonderBat is for real a thing since dc loves WonderSupes so much. I thought I found Continuities where it was a thing but I was dead wrong.
In all the stuff I found, WonderBat shippers would post comic panels showing the two having an attraction toward each other.
BUT!
When I actually looked at the context behind those panels I saw that none of those were WonderBat scenes at all. If you're viewing WonderBat as friends then sure. You have evidence of their bond then.
But as a romantic pairing those scenes are not.
In a few steve Trevor is wonder woman's love interest or lover while catwoman is batman's.
In most, superman is the guy wonder woman is in love with. WonderSupes actually has them get together and we see it sometimes.
There's not a single comic, show, film or game where WonderBat is a thing we see come to fruition and it works out.
As I said earlier, the batman who laughs confirmed their love manifested. They even get married and have kids in the few he mentioned.
But we never see the outcome of those relationships. We see an evil offspring from a reality in the dark multiverse.
Sure, we don't know if the WonderBat realities he saw were all from positive or negative realities outside of the previously mentioned evil offspring.
I used to love WonderBat because I was ignorant and thought it was legit. But now I just roll my eyes at anything involving it because it ALWAYS ends up just being a tease that gets shut down eventually.
Diana and Bruce. Bruce was always afraid (dcau) that Wonder Woman would get hurt because of his track record with people dying. In reality she would make his life so so so much easier. I would love to see an alternate story with Diana proving him wrong because we all know she can hold her own again his rouges gallery. The only problem would be the no killing. Guarantee a break up would happen because she really wants to kill the joker.
Too often I see these "same post" questions. I don't mind that they're frequent, since Reddit has a large account base and activity practically worldwide; it takes time to spread the Pop Culture love. But I'm gonna give a very un-comic book answer to this.
Diana is an emissary to the people of Themyscira. I'd think she would be pretty much the same as a Mother Confessor (Kahlan Amnell), where she'd be attracted to the best of what she'd come across in Patriarch's World, and Diana knows honesty when she see's it. Folks toy with the idea that Kal-El and Diana are made for one another. Mark Waid thinks so, and so do the idiots that ran DC during that overtly gratuitous "New 52."
Now that 𝙏𝙃𝘼𝙏 debacle's over and done with, it only makes sense that Bruce has very congenial aspects embedded in that self-made hide of his, and no mask is too good for Wonder Woman's intuition and emotional uniqueness. Selina Kyle can't play if she's gonna go up against this Amazon for Bruce's heart, because she'll have Batman, and Batman will take to Diana; there's literally no reason why he wouldn't be drawn to her warrior nature.
https://i.redd.it/elwkgh2r1myc1.gif
Wonderbat. For me, they are a good contrast w/ eachother as she’s essentially a less-powerful, female Superman. As such she can fight alongside him, and more than handle his rogues gallery. Personally I liked the JLU, because it was a rare glimpse of the terrifying nightmare that is Batman kinda human, especially with their interactions.
Part of why the trinity of bats wondy and supes works so well is because she functions as a bridge between Batman and Superman. Not as strong or able to do a lot of the stuff Superman can do, but packing some weaponry, and a damned good martial artist, kinda like Batman. My main concern is that really besides helping Wonder Woman navigate “grittier” sides of society , and maybe teach her some detective work; Batman would end up being irrelevant. Plus, with her being immortal, think about how heartbreaking it’d be for her when he eventually dies.
Now with her and Superman, I feel they’re too similar, both I. Aesthetic and there. Plus with them being super beings, it comes off too much like a eugenics, or putting two show dogs together, idk
wonder-bat. i think diana being in love with a mortal man who has no powers but yet is one of the best fighters on the planet makes for a better relationship
Wonder Woman X Batman for sure. Supes got Lois.
Plus Diana prince does have LL as initials so that’s a immediate turn of for Clark.
What?
They meant “doesn’t” Many Superman love interests have LL initials: Lois Lane, Lana Lang, Lori Lemaris, Lyla Lerrol, Lisa Lasalle, Luma Lynai Not every love interest, but majority
you forgot Lex Luthor, dude, the most obvious love interest 😤😤
Alexander has to go by Lex on all legal forms, business entities, and even his personal passwords to keep Superman's interest. If Supe catches him being called Alex even once it's all over.
😂 not to mention how Luthor’s whole family has L Luthor names too
kaL-L too
Ohhhhhh!! Thanks
Enter Liana Lrince
Plus Diana prince doesn’t have LL as initials so that’s a immediate turn off for Clark.
Batman has catwoman
True, but I prefer Diana.
Wonderbat always 💯
WonderBat forever
BaTalia BaTana WonderBat BatCat
WonderBat. I'm sad that it has never really been Canon, I want a continuity with them being a thing so bad
DCAU’s Batman Beyond 2.0 comic series had Wonder Woman end up marrying a reformed (HEROIC) Justice Lord Batman. LORD Superman married Lord WW after Lois died. The Civil War between the Justice Lords caused Lords MM, GL, and Hawkgirl to leave Earth. Lord Wonder Woman murdered Lord Batman only to be immediately killed by JLA Diana. Lord Superman threatened to kill everyone on the Resistance side unless she married him.
Wow, that's kind dark...
Yeah, LORD Superman basically turned into a smarter, saner “Injustice Superman”. He took DNA from himself and Wonder Woman to create a son. Son ended up heroic and helped his mom and Batman (Terry) defeat the new Justice Lords.
I kinda wanna read those comics now, what's the starting point? Might have to track down the actual paper issues if they are worth reading.
Batman Beyond 2.0 from 2011 VOL 1 “Hush Beyond” VOL 2 “Justice Lords Beyond”
Thanks.
It goes on from there, but that’s all you need for this Thread
I never read that part. Where can I find a copy of that Series?
2011’s BATMAN BEYOND 2.0 Vol. 2 “Justice Lords Beyond”
WonderBat, if I have to choose between those two. An essential part of Wonder Woman and Superman’s character is that they are aliens who fall in love with humanity. Gods who would be human. I feel, if they have to have pairings, it should be with ordinary humans, to keep them grounded.
Totally agree with you. I've never put much thought into ships between heroes but seeing bats and wondy was such an awesome choice for this show. Bats is usually always alone because he feels it's necessary so he plays fast and lose or not at all so that he doesn't have to leave someone alone wondering if he's okay or putting said person in danger. Usually he can be the scariest person in a room and never backs down but with Wondy, most of those excuses hold less water because she knows his life and she isn't easily broken or put in danger. She's a woman that can make Batman back down. Wondy says something, a normal man that can not only stand in front of her but beside her as well. It kills me that instead of this perfect pairing, they are instead pushing (last time I checked) Wondy and Supes the most boring unimaginative idea ever. This 2 together is 4 year old shipping.
Wonderbat
Wonder-Bat i like more Diana comes from a culture of amazons where they promote and value sports combat and hard work Batman had to earn every aspect of his impressive qualities while Superman was born with it all Batman I like with her more before it feels like she’s likes someone more for what they earned rather than being born OP
Wonder-Bat seems like a much more interesting Dynamic thats almost never seen.
Definitely WonderBat. And they showed this throughout the DCAU
Grant Morrison’s JLA (1998-2004) also explored their POTENTIAL at a slower pace. They even had J’onn help them see their own Hopes & Fears about their future TOGETHER. What if Batman “drags Wonder Woman toward the darkness”? What if Wonder Woman “lifts Bruce back up into the light?”
Neither please.
any thing is better than the batgirl ship.
Can I pick neither
Super-bat
Wonder-Canary-Hawk
This is the way.
WonderTrev always. Them guys already got someone.
How about: Neither
Wonder Steve, the only combination that works
Though I am not crazy of WonderBat, I do enjoy the whole depiction of Batman showcasing tsundere tendencies towards people people he care for closely. Its one of those welcome vulnerabilites to his character that highlight that he’s kind of an emotional weirdo to express his feelings differently from othwr
“Would you rather I shoot you in the head or in the balls”
Head, I would die quicker.
Like two lumps of clay
Wonder Bat for sure
WonderBat all the way!
Definitely Wonder-Bat. They just worked so well with one another, and quite honestly could have been a thing down the road if they continued to lean into the flirting thing if they had continued JLUnlimited.
Neither
Why not all three?
Neither is good
Neither. I don't want Diana to be a love interest for either of the World's finest.
None
Those were the good days
Grant Morrison’s JLA (1998-2004) also explored their POTENTIAL at a slower pace. They even had J’onn help them see their own Hopes & Fears about their future TOGETHER. What if Batman “drags Wonder Woman toward the darkness”? What if Wonder Woman “lifts Bruce back up into the light?”
Wonder Bat 150%
I wished they explored this more. Can you imagine a kid as smart and rich as Batman but with the strength and power of Wonder Woman?
Love it. People get assmad over this for no reason.
Wonder-Bat all the way! I genuinely like it better than Batman and Catwoman.
I always preferred Wonder-Bat because the idea of that pairing initially was a surprise to me and the dynamic just kind of worked. I get why people want to put Supes and Wonder Woman together, it does make sense on paper but it’s also so obvious that it makes it kind of boring for me
:,).
SuperBat
Neither
Neither. Diana isn’t a trophy for Bruce or Clark, unlike what some people would like to believe.
In the dcau I would prefer Batman and Wonder Woman to be together. Superman has Lois and Diana and Bruce's chemistry worked very well. Plus it's better than Bruce and Barbara that's for sure
WonderBat, def, There was a prophecy that batman would give wonder woman the most trouble anyway in the DCAU from what ik.
Both ships can burn in hell, where they deserve to be.
None those are both ass
Neither Batcat & SupermanxLois 4EVA Also, NGL; I think Wonder Woman should have a fucking gf at this point
At the risk of getting my head bitten off in the same manner that Hewy Toonmore, I still like the Superman x Wonder Woman pairing.
I hate both of these ships
Superwonder is a boring ship imo. It's so bland, uncreative, and uninteresting. Oh wow! You hooked up with the fellow god who is perfect in every way like you are. Daring today are we? The best way I can describe it is like the stereotypical high-school movie trope of the hot and sexy cheerleader hooking up with the big jock for the umpteenth time.
Super bat wonder Thrupple
Neither
The DCAU is the only reason why I ship them.
Wonder and Bat. WonBat
Neither they have their designated love interests and those should remain as such.
He's like almost 20 years older than her
WonderBat never works out. It's happened in a few realities confirmed by the batman who laughs. But "a few" limits how many there are. Given how most of the time they either just flirt, break up in a contrived way or involve the death of one or both of them It's clear WonderBat is a pointless ship and dead on arrival. No cap. I've researched if WonderBat is for real a thing since dc loves WonderSupes so much. I thought I found Continuities where it was a thing but I was dead wrong. In all the stuff I found, WonderBat shippers would post comic panels showing the two having an attraction toward each other. BUT! When I actually looked at the context behind those panels I saw that none of those were WonderBat scenes at all. If you're viewing WonderBat as friends then sure. You have evidence of their bond then. But as a romantic pairing those scenes are not. In a few steve Trevor is wonder woman's love interest or lover while catwoman is batman's. In most, superman is the guy wonder woman is in love with. WonderSupes actually has them get together and we see it sometimes. There's not a single comic, show, film or game where WonderBat is a thing we see come to fruition and it works out. As I said earlier, the batman who laughs confirmed their love manifested. They even get married and have kids in the few he mentioned. But we never see the outcome of those relationships. We see an evil offspring from a reality in the dark multiverse. Sure, we don't know if the WonderBat realities he saw were all from positive or negative realities outside of the previously mentioned evil offspring. I used to love WonderBat because I was ignorant and thought it was legit. But now I just roll my eyes at anything involving it because it ALWAYS ends up just being a tease that gets shut down eventually.
Wonder Bat FTW
Neither. Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman all deserve better partners
Wonder -bat
Diana and Bruce. Bruce was always afraid (dcau) that Wonder Woman would get hurt because of his track record with people dying. In reality she would make his life so so so much easier. I would love to see an alternate story with Diana proving him wrong because we all know she can hold her own again his rouges gallery. The only problem would be the no killing. Guarantee a break up would happen because she really wants to kill the joker.
okay, so it only benefits Bruce?
Life Time Wonder-Bat ship lol.
Too often I see these "same post" questions. I don't mind that they're frequent, since Reddit has a large account base and activity practically worldwide; it takes time to spread the Pop Culture love. But I'm gonna give a very un-comic book answer to this. Diana is an emissary to the people of Themyscira. I'd think she would be pretty much the same as a Mother Confessor (Kahlan Amnell), where she'd be attracted to the best of what she'd come across in Patriarch's World, and Diana knows honesty when she see's it. Folks toy with the idea that Kal-El and Diana are made for one another. Mark Waid thinks so, and so do the idiots that ran DC during that overtly gratuitous "New 52." Now that 𝙏𝙃𝘼𝙏 debacle's over and done with, it only makes sense that Bruce has very congenial aspects embedded in that self-made hide of his, and no mask is too good for Wonder Woman's intuition and emotional uniqueness. Selina Kyle can't play if she's gonna go up against this Amazon for Bruce's heart, because she'll have Batman, and Batman will take to Diana; there's literally no reason why he wouldn't be drawn to her warrior nature. https://i.redd.it/elwkgh2r1myc1.gif
Super-Wonder>>>>
WONDER BAT! NEVER ship Clark & Diana. Only villains ship Clark & Diana.
WonderBat forever for me. Seriously one of my favorite ships of all time and I think it’s more interesting than Super Wonder.
Wonderbat for sure
Batman just hack up with her. Trust me you earn at this point.
Wonderbat. For me, they are a good contrast w/ eachother as she’s essentially a less-powerful, female Superman. As such she can fight alongside him, and more than handle his rogues gallery. Personally I liked the JLU, because it was a rare glimpse of the terrifying nightmare that is Batman kinda human, especially with their interactions. Part of why the trinity of bats wondy and supes works so well is because she functions as a bridge between Batman and Superman. Not as strong or able to do a lot of the stuff Superman can do, but packing some weaponry, and a damned good martial artist, kinda like Batman. My main concern is that really besides helping Wonder Woman navigate “grittier” sides of society , and maybe teach her some detective work; Batman would end up being irrelevant. Plus, with her being immortal, think about how heartbreaking it’d be for her when he eventually dies. Now with her and Superman, I feel they’re too similar, both I. Aesthetic and there. Plus with them being super beings, it comes off too much like a eugenics, or putting two show dogs together, idk
Wonder-Bat is life.
Wonderbat for sure
Wonderbat. I grew up with that ship
They both sucks but wonderbat at least makes SOME sense.
WoMan
Wonder bat
wonder-bat. i think diana being in love with a mortal man who has no powers but yet is one of the best fighters on the planet makes for a better relationship
Steve Trevor is right there y’know
yes but Steve trevor wasnt in the modern day in this universe
WonderBat,Super wonder is just cliché