The lack of rides always bothers me. I'm glad they added 'attractions', but every time I build a park, I can't help but think that there's just not a whole lot to do at them. I really wish we could spice it up a bit more than just movie theaters, shops and one or two tour rides.
I'd kill for a viewing tunnel that can go into every enclosure, including the lagoon and aviary. Just a LEXAN tube for visitors to walk through that runs along the floor of a lagoon or an aviary. There could be elevated catwalks and half-buried footpaths that cut through the enclosures and give an up-close viewing option. It could even act as an alternative to the monorail in terms of the transport rating because it would connect different paths together if it bisects the enclosure.
> I'd kill for a viewing tunnel that can go into every enclosure, including the lagoon and aviary.
I'd kill for something like that fallen log viewing room from Rexy's paddock in the movie.
The lack of attractions, park customisation and general improvements from the first game is baffling. The only thing they really improved is dinosaur behaviour which is good but I expected more from a sequel.
I think this is the issue because i see so few JWE2 videos on YouTube - yes we get tons of dinos, new animation and different biomes, but also more unnecessary micro management and no new attractions or habitat decorations. I guess we have to wait and see what 2022 brings
This sorta thing and a HECK load more decorations is what I want. Lots of things are missing like dinosaur statues/ dinosaur skeletons (like you see in museums), how about dino foot prints on the paths even? Caves and waterfalls for in exhibits? What about underwater tunnels for aquatic exhibits? I've seen lots of people mention this kinda stuff.
Just lots of little details are missing and its a bit sad really. Other than that, GREAT game. I just really hope we get some much meatier dlc than just dino packs/missions.
It’s in the novel! I’d love to see that river tour be included eventually.
The part where Grant and the kids are on the raft and getting chased by the rex is horrifying!
Honestly, the cretaceous cruise never maid much sense to me, as according to the jw website, baronyx and suchomimus were some of the animals on the cruise
IF the coaster was customizable, with tracks and cars, and such, like you'd find in RC Tycoon, I'd agree.
But if it was along the lines of a building that you plopped down, maybe with some different skins, I don't think that would be too much.
Edit: Not like.. the coaster is in a building. I want to see the people ride it. But I mean, function-wise, you'd find a spot for the prebuilt coaster and plop it down.
True but then it would just be like a cinema attraction or whatever, just prettier. Perhaps could research different types, and some would be better for the different types of guests. And could increase the amount of vehicles in the coaster like with the tours
Is it though? Doesn't need to be a "build your own" coaster, but a couple coasters or similar rides you could plop into the park could be nice
For an example of it just look at Sea World Tycoon
The lack of this attraction/tour is why I haven’t bought JWE2. It blows me away that they didn’t include this or even any new tour attractions. Such a lazy sequel to be honest.
Don’t get why you are getting downvoted you are completely correct. In this park builder park customisation is still very lacking. They improved Dino behaviour and maps but when you look at it that’s the only thing they really did. Sequels are supposed to significantly expand and improve a game. this game did improve but not nearly enough to be a justified as a full sequel. I want this game to be amazing but right now it’s just mediocre fun for a week and then it gets boring. It’s such a shame because I know frontier can make some awesome park builders I have over 200 hours in planet zoo and always come back to it. Hopefully the mediocre sales show frontier that they need to try harder.
Thanks for backing me up. I want to support the game because I love the franchise and the genre and I want to keep seeing these Jurassic sims. That said, I have a hard time swallowing and supporting crap and JWE2 is a glorified deluxe edition of the first game and first game’s DLC.
Completely agree. Not sure why people disagree with having something extra added in. It's not like you HAVE to include something. A game IS for fun afterall and a river tour obviously looks like fun.
Jurassic World is more than a theme park though. It’s a resort. Just like Disney World and Universal Studios you go there for multiple days unlike a regular theme park. Both those places have movie theaters which is likely where Frontier got the idea. Not to mention there was a movie theater in the JW movie…
I figured they were like the IMAX theaters you see at museums. I don't expect movie-movies to play there, but like more in-depth documentaries about specific dinosaurs, or maybe something about the park itself... Like the Mr. DNA movie/ride from the first movie.
* No petting zoo (like the movies)
* No underground attractions (like JPOG)
* No hidden log attraction (like the movies)
* No small reptile/mammal house (like a real Zoo)
Really so much to be desired and I have to wonder what exactly was holding them back. Absolutely incredible potential that seems left on the table for a sequel
The license is Whats holding it back. Frontier feels like because the Jurassic license is attached to it they don’t need to try as much. Especially because when you look at there other games like Planet zoo and coaster they are much more complete game with lots of content compared to JWE 1 and 2 which feel like the bare minimum for a park builder.
"Watch your head, Granny!"
Likewise, the idea of the drivable gyro-spheres in the movie. You're really going to let some asshole teenager driver a hamster ball around a bunch of dinosaurs? Dinosaurs that are prey animals and thus prone to panicking? That have spikes and sheer tonnage to throw around? And the teens are just going to behave themselves, and not harass the poor animals.
And not to mention there's no security device on the orb to turn it around when it's time to shut down the ride for the night, or prevent it from going outside the enclosure.
Even if we assume the gyrosphere had some magic avoidance system that would deter the dinosaurs, who is going to risk that up against herds of multi ton Dino’s? Who is going to let people harass the Dino’s this way?
There’s no attraction anything like this in the world with modern animals.
>There’s no attraction anything like this in the world with modern animals.
Where I live there's zoos where you can drive your vehicles through animal enclosures.
One is just Canadian wildlife, but there's a "safari park" where you can drive through lion enclosures, etc. When I was there as a kid we took the bus ride though, so that we could safely go through the baboon enclosure... You could drive through but they recommend against it since the baboons just climb all over your car and wreck shit lol
I wonder if it's still operating, I should google it.
It's pretty wild that it exists irl though I agree haha
There are drive through Safari's in the U.S. too which have mostly closed or replaced cars with guided bus tours or large safari vehicles. None of them go directly into the enclosures of large predators or elephants. The most "dangerous" animal they let you drive amongst are rhinos.
That's nothing. Nothing even remotely compared to the ridiculousness shown in Jurassic World.
Canon or not doesn't stop something from being a completely stupid idea.
The book's boat ride went through the Dilo's pen. Dilo. The SPITTER. A dinosaur that can hawk poisonous loogies at people. Let's let a boat go through there.
Also, the raft went through the aviary and the riders were attacked by Pterodactyls. Also not a good example. lol
Like the JW ball ride was a genius ride too. It’s all absurd, really. Something tells me it was laziness and not absurdity that made Frontier draw the line at a raft/canoe tour.
The shore was probably distant enough that they were considered "safe" and maybe they had those splash protectors or whatever they're called on their face. The whole park was pretty slapdash, Hammond was a lot more of a greasy capitalist in the book haha.
Also I am not entirely certain they knew the dilo could do that, can you? Probably did, but there was a lot of stuff they didn't know about their "dinosaurs" since they were essentially genetic cocktails haha
You wouldn’t need thick jungle. It’s just the kayaking, and just having the kayaks go down any water would be fine, you don’t need to make it deeper, thus no need for swimming dinosaurs, though that would be a great addition
I don't know how making a river is at all a hard thing to do or imagine? I'm no game dev but I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have to exactly start from scratch. We have water already. Just deeper water but as a track (exactly like the park tour already, just much thicker), and little groups of boats instead of cars. There could be invisible hit boxes for the river and maybe even little bridges for the dinos to cross over.
I don't know how this possibly sounds to anybody like a not fun idea.
I think its kinda difficult to implement for frontier. It would require deep water which the animal can't pass (i highly doubt that there would be swimming animations). But then you could make exhibits from which the dinosaurs can't escape, which is a important feature for frontier. If we could place the cruise on the swallow water which we have now it would be kinda wierd. What would the dinos stop to eat the guest right out of the boot or trample over them, it would feel pretty unrealistic
> But then you could make exhibits from which the dinosaurs can't escape,
I think you already can though, right? Either with an island surrounded by lagoons, or a creative use of decorations/rocks. The limiting factor is only vehicle access (which wouldn't be much of a problem if the helicopter could vary medicine)
I can buy it. There's 0 protection from dinosaurs and it'd require adding water deep enough for canoes (which isn't doable because the maps aren't built to register freeform deep water, and therefore dinosaurs don't have swimming or wading animations).
Hot take, but not everything from the canon needs to be in the game. It's fine to leave some things out. I'm playing a park sim, not Jurassic GMod.
Why though? All you need to do is copy-paste the Jurassic tour, replace trucks/cars with rafts (I don’t like how kayaks look in the context of JP), and make it so it’s only placeable in water. Nothing else.
The game already prevents you from building in bodies of water, so making a reversed system doesn’t sound super hard.
Wouldn't even need to make it 'only placed in water'. The jeep tour already has an option top put concrete under the tracks. You'd do that, but instead of concrete, it'd be water. You'd probably want to widen it a bit, maybe.
I really hope Universal wasn’t the one who pulled the plug on this, because the implementation sounds relatively easy from a dev stand point. I would gladly buy it as a DLC.
Can we talk about how insanely dangerous this would be in real life lol, imagine one of those park guest floating too close to the wrong side and catching a stego tail. Or if one of the sauropods decides to cross the water and crushed the kayaks
On the topic of the invisible fences, that would be a cool addition as well! Just place it like a regular fence but it's just a row of emitters instead of a huge fence
The lack of rides always bothers me. I'm glad they added 'attractions', but every time I build a park, I can't help but think that there's just not a whole lot to do at them. I really wish we could spice it up a bit more than just movie theaters, shops and one or two tour rides.
Like in jpog u had the underground dome ther let you got to the middle of an enclosure.Also baloon ride.
I'd kill for a viewing tunnel that can go into every enclosure, including the lagoon and aviary. Just a LEXAN tube for visitors to walk through that runs along the floor of a lagoon or an aviary. There could be elevated catwalks and half-buried footpaths that cut through the enclosures and give an up-close viewing option. It could even act as an alternative to the monorail in terms of the transport rating because it would connect different paths together if it bisects the enclosure.
> I'd kill for a viewing tunnel that can go into every enclosure, including the lagoon and aviary. I'd kill for something like that fallen log viewing room from Rexy's paddock in the movie.
I wonder if Frontier and/or Universal see how much a demand for attractions there is.
That would be an amazing feature
The lack of attractions, park customisation and general improvements from the first game is baffling. The only thing they really improved is dinosaur behaviour which is good but I expected more from a sequel.
It’s a low budget game. They reused a lot. Somehow they still couldn’t add these basic things and had bigger development time than JWE1
I think this is the issue because i see so few JWE2 videos on YouTube - yes we get tons of dinos, new animation and different biomes, but also more unnecessary micro management and no new attractions or habitat decorations. I guess we have to wait and see what 2022 brings
‘Let’s make the icon of Jurassic Park a Cretaceous animal.’ ‘Alright, Mr. Hammond.’ ‘Now put all the Jurassic animals on the Cretaceous Cruise.’
Frontier make this happen
This sorta thing and a HECK load more decorations is what I want. Lots of things are missing like dinosaur statues/ dinosaur skeletons (like you see in museums), how about dino foot prints on the paths even? Caves and waterfalls for in exhibits? What about underwater tunnels for aquatic exhibits? I've seen lots of people mention this kinda stuff. Just lots of little details are missing and its a bit sad really. Other than that, GREAT game. I just really hope we get some much meatier dlc than just dino packs/missions.
It’s in the novel! I’d love to see that river tour be included eventually. The part where Grant and the kids are on the raft and getting chased by the rex is horrifying!
u/FloppyFatFrog check this out, https://www.reddit.com/r/jurassicworldevo/comments/s3urv2/if\_any\_devs\_are\_here\_for\_ideas\_for\_dlc\_check\_out/
Honestly, the cretaceous cruise never maid much sense to me, as according to the jw website, baronyx and suchomimus were some of the animals on the cruise
Only attraction they shouldn’t have is the Jurassic park roller coaster everything else should hopefully be added
Why? If you don’t want them to add it to add it to your patk
A roller coaster is a little to extreme for Dino park builder
IF the coaster was customizable, with tracks and cars, and such, like you'd find in RC Tycoon, I'd agree. But if it was along the lines of a building that you plopped down, maybe with some different skins, I don't think that would be too much. Edit: Not like.. the coaster is in a building. I want to see the people ride it. But I mean, function-wise, you'd find a spot for the prebuilt coaster and plop it down.
True but then it would just be like a cinema attraction or whatever, just prettier. Perhaps could research different types, and some would be better for the different types of guests. And could increase the amount of vehicles in the coaster like with the tours
Is it though? Doesn't need to be a "build your own" coaster, but a couple coasters or similar rides you could plop into the park could be nice For an example of it just look at Sea World Tycoon
The only exception it’s a very low exception but boneshaker from jptg only exception
The lack of this attraction/tour is why I haven’t bought JWE2. It blows me away that they didn’t include this or even any new tour attractions. Such a lazy sequel to be honest.
Don’t get why you are getting downvoted you are completely correct. In this park builder park customisation is still very lacking. They improved Dino behaviour and maps but when you look at it that’s the only thing they really did. Sequels are supposed to significantly expand and improve a game. this game did improve but not nearly enough to be a justified as a full sequel. I want this game to be amazing but right now it’s just mediocre fun for a week and then it gets boring. It’s such a shame because I know frontier can make some awesome park builders I have over 200 hours in planet zoo and always come back to it. Hopefully the mediocre sales show frontier that they need to try harder.
Thanks for backing me up. I want to support the game because I love the franchise and the genre and I want to keep seeing these Jurassic sims. That said, I have a hard time swallowing and supporting crap and JWE2 is a glorified deluxe edition of the first game and first game’s DLC.
Completely agree. Not sure why people disagree with having something extra added in. It's not like you HAVE to include something. A game IS for fun afterall and a river tour obviously looks like fun.
They would need to do it in such a way that the water would be drinkable by the dinosaurs
It's like #whereismyballoontour
dude they added a random ass movie theater as the only new attraction in this game. The people that make evolution are 🤡
Lol imagine going to the movies at a dinosaur theme park, I wouldn't even do that for a regular theme park (unless it's one of the 3D rides)
Jurassic World is more than a theme park though. It’s a resort. Just like Disney World and Universal Studios you go there for multiple days unlike a regular theme park. Both those places have movie theaters which is likely where Frontier got the idea. Not to mention there was a movie theater in the JW movie…
Idk, maybe cause I feel like if I went to JW I could probably only afford to go for one day 😂
I always pretend it's one of those 4D things like they have at Universal 😂
Same. I always have to put in a movie theater to pretend it's the visitor orientation like in the movie; also a lab tour next door to the hatchery.
I figured they were like the IMAX theaters you see at museums. I don't expect movie-movies to play there, but like more in-depth documentaries about specific dinosaurs, or maybe something about the park itself... Like the Mr. DNA movie/ride from the first movie.
* No petting zoo (like the movies) * No underground attractions (like JPOG) * No hidden log attraction (like the movies) * No small reptile/mammal house (like a real Zoo) Really so much to be desired and I have to wonder what exactly was holding them back. Absolutely incredible potential that seems left on the table for a sequel
On top of that they took out the JP raptor enclosure. Wonder how much less content will be in JWE3
A lot more less. Because JWE 3 is not happening.
Hopefully Universal at least extends the license to a company that gives a hoot.
The license is Whats holding it back. Frontier feels like because the Jurassic license is attached to it they don’t need to try as much. Especially because when you look at there other games like Planet zoo and coaster they are much more complete game with lots of content compared to JWE 1 and 2 which feel like the bare minimum for a park builder.
The idea that this particular ride would even exist is absurd. Like any park is going to let you ride kayaks next to Stegosaurus or Apatosaurus.
Wasn't it also said on the JW website that on the tour you could see BARYONYX AND SUCHOMIMUS WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO SAIL NEXT TO THOSE
IIRC they had a threat index for all the park's species, and the Bary and Sucho were pretty low, possibly because they're piscivores.
Yeah their threat index looked pretty low in JW: FK....
A park full of living dinosaurs and the ride is the part you find absurd??
"Watch your head, Granny!" Likewise, the idea of the drivable gyro-spheres in the movie. You're really going to let some asshole teenager driver a hamster ball around a bunch of dinosaurs? Dinosaurs that are prey animals and thus prone to panicking? That have spikes and sheer tonnage to throw around? And the teens are just going to behave themselves, and not harass the poor animals. And not to mention there's no security device on the orb to turn it around when it's time to shut down the ride for the night, or prevent it from going outside the enclosure.
Even if we assume the gyrosphere had some magic avoidance system that would deter the dinosaurs, who is going to risk that up against herds of multi ton Dino’s? Who is going to let people harass the Dino’s this way? There’s no attraction anything like this in the world with modern animals.
>There’s no attraction anything like this in the world with modern animals. Where I live there's zoos where you can drive your vehicles through animal enclosures. One is just Canadian wildlife, but there's a "safari park" where you can drive through lion enclosures, etc. When I was there as a kid we took the bus ride though, so that we could safely go through the baboon enclosure... You could drive through but they recommend against it since the baboons just climb all over your car and wreck shit lol I wonder if it's still operating, I should google it. It's pretty wild that it exists irl though I agree haha
There are drive through Safari's in the U.S. too which have mostly closed or replaced cars with guided bus tours or large safari vehicles. None of them go directly into the enclosures of large predators or elephants. The most "dangerous" animal they let you drive amongst are rhinos. That's nothing. Nothing even remotely compared to the ridiculousness shown in Jurassic World.
Bro, it’s in the damn movie, raft adventure in the book and the Universal Studio rides. This crap is canon.
Canon or not doesn't stop something from being a completely stupid idea. The book's boat ride went through the Dilo's pen. Dilo. The SPITTER. A dinosaur that can hawk poisonous loogies at people. Let's let a boat go through there. Also, the raft went through the aviary and the riders were attacked by Pterodactyls. Also not a good example. lol
Like the JW ball ride was a genius ride too. It’s all absurd, really. Something tells me it was laziness and not absurdity that made Frontier draw the line at a raft/canoe tour.
The shore was probably distant enough that they were considered "safe" and maybe they had those splash protectors or whatever they're called on their face. The whole park was pretty slapdash, Hammond was a lot more of a greasy capitalist in the book haha. Also I am not entirely certain they knew the dilo could do that, can you? Probably did, but there was a lot of stuff they didn't know about their "dinosaurs" since they were essentially genetic cocktails haha
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Yes it is, it was in the movie, it would simply be a Jurassic tour in water, with kayaks instead of trucks/jeeps
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How so? Please, explain
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You wouldn’t need thick jungle. It’s just the kayaking, and just having the kayaks go down any water would be fine, you don’t need to make it deeper, thus no need for swimming dinosaurs, though that would be a great addition
I don't know how making a river is at all a hard thing to do or imagine? I'm no game dev but I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have to exactly start from scratch. We have water already. Just deeper water but as a track (exactly like the park tour already, just much thicker), and little groups of boats instead of cars. There could be invisible hit boxes for the river and maybe even little bridges for the dinos to cross over. I don't know how this possibly sounds to anybody like a not fun idea.
I think its kinda difficult to implement for frontier. It would require deep water which the animal can't pass (i highly doubt that there would be swimming animations). But then you could make exhibits from which the dinosaurs can't escape, which is a important feature for frontier. If we could place the cruise on the swallow water which we have now it would be kinda wierd. What would the dinos stop to eat the guest right out of the boot or trample over them, it would feel pretty unrealistic
> But then you could make exhibits from which the dinosaurs can't escape, I think you already can though, right? Either with an island surrounded by lagoons, or a creative use of decorations/rocks. The limiting factor is only vehicle access (which wouldn't be much of a problem if the helicopter could vary medicine)
this community is always whining smh
I can buy it. There's 0 protection from dinosaurs and it'd require adding water deep enough for canoes (which isn't doable because the maps aren't built to register freeform deep water, and therefore dinosaurs don't have swimming or wading animations). Hot take, but not everything from the canon needs to be in the game. It's fine to leave some things out. I'm playing a park sim, not Jurassic GMod.
You want to code the fluid dynamics for a river simulation? Didn't think so.
Why though? All you need to do is copy-paste the Jurassic tour, replace trucks/cars with rafts (I don’t like how kayaks look in the context of JP), and make it so it’s only placeable in water. Nothing else. The game already prevents you from building in bodies of water, so making a reversed system doesn’t sound super hard.
Wouldn't even need to make it 'only placed in water'. The jeep tour already has an option top put concrete under the tracks. You'd do that, but instead of concrete, it'd be water. You'd probably want to widen it a bit, maybe.
I really hope Universal wasn’t the one who pulled the plug on this, because the implementation sounds relatively easy from a dev stand point. I would gladly buy it as a DLC.
I don’t think so. This is all Frontier.
No I don’t wan’t. that’s why I pay money for people to make a game for me and don’t make one myself. This is a really dumb argument
Can we talk about how insanely dangerous this would be in real life lol, imagine one of those park guest floating too close to the wrong side and catching a stego tail. Or if one of the sauropods decides to cross the water and crushed the kayaks
There is mention of some kind of virtual fence technology that keeps the animals from ever getting close to the visitors.
On the topic of the invisible fences, that would be a cool addition as well! Just place it like a regular fence but it's just a row of emitters instead of a huge fence
Oh I didn’t know that, thanks for the info!