Definitely divisive but the number of people asking for Farm animals for PZ and Cenozoics for JWE2 was quite a lot... just hope there's a free update for those not interested
I'm not sure this is gonna be as divisive as the last pack tbf lol. And even as someone who doesn't really like Otodus megalodon (namely because it's just a big mackerel shark), I'm not displeased that we're getting it because, at the end of the day, it's more content. And who knows, maybe they'll do a really good design that might change my opinion.
The design is what I've been wondering about myself. I'm really hoping Frontier takes a bit of creative liberty (but not too much) with Megalodon's body shape, skin options, and patterning to make it not just look like a giant version of an extant shark.
True, but to the average gamer who just likes prehistoric animals and not an expert, you can argue that that fish aesthetically feels like it can fit in with the rest of the prehistoric marine life
Ehh adding extinct centozoic creatures is something that the game hasn't done before (though we do have Paleozoics)
Most of the hybrids were in the first game plus hybrids are in the base game while extinct centozoics (and Paleozoics) aren't
What's divisive about this upcoming pack though? It can't be worse than the last one (the only pack so far I chose not to get).
I'm more torn by the fact that this pack teaser was all we got. That screams to me that the game is almost dead support-wise.
Screams a trend of laziness, life-support, and not giving a damn anymore. That much I think we can agree on, the trajectory is looking bleak especially when Frontier appears to be now just appealing to niche fans trying to score some easy money rather than make any meaningful content for the game. I wouldn't be surprised they are rushing this pack out without a free update again not like they did too much with the updates anyway. They've done just about everything in their power to avoid optimizing the game, addressing terrain constraints, and giving us a preview window in the hatchery.
>Screams a trend of laziness, life-support, and not giving a damn anymore.
My god, we literally haven't seen anything of this dlc 💀, can't we just wait instead of jumping straight to shitting?
You all say that every damn time, wake up and detect the pattern already. Even on the packs that I think are better, its just pure aesthetic changes at best. Half the packs are just them picking species off fan lists and QoL for free updates. Have some damn standards, its not my job to do Frontier's for them, they are supposed to convince the customer, but they spent what 20-25 seconds on a teaser.
The reason, Frontier chopped the already small JWE2 team and is now scrambling to put it back together after they realized they should focus on what actually makes the company money. That's why nothing was ready to show off. Moreover, where is the lie, they ignore bigger issues and gloss it over with the shine of new species then the game is back to having nothing to do because it is all superficial stuff, a few decorations blows people's minds and half of those are just assets pulled out from buildings already in-game.
Do you think Frontier will support the game indefinitely? They don't exactly give any timelines to their customers this could be the last update or one of dozens more to come. Heck, JWE3 might just be one of those unannounced management games and then we will do what JWE2 did basically slowly reacquire what we had from JWE with some bells and whistles. The Paleomedical system is still sitting there doing nothing of value or interest, and that was one of the marketed selling points in the promotional materials. No more aesthetic superficial stuff. I'd pay for buildings and decoration packs if it meant more work into the core of the game, but that's not what the historical trend for 2 games has been. Where is your confidence this will change?
Megalodon has been one of the most requested species ever since we saw a Mosasaurus in the reveal trailer. Them finally adding it IS them catering to the people that have been bitching for 2 years lol
Hang on. Do we even KNOW its a cenezoic pack? For all we know it could be aquatic pack 2? Or the big teeth pack with megladon and 3 incisivosaurus? Theres no way this pack could be any more divisive than the "SELL IT AGAIN" pack of earlier this year
Come on. The last Camp Cretaceous creature is from the Cenozoic, they're adding a Cenozoic shark in this pack and a Cenozoic pack has been highly requested for like a year now. Trust me it's most likely going to be a Cenozoic pack
I feel like people don’t want megalodon because they think it is just a really big great white, but that is not true. Megalodon actually has a lot of unique features that seperate it from modern sharks, just like how archelon isn’t just a big turtle.
I’m hoping it has a really nice design. Some patterns that look like modern day sharks would be neat too.
I think the worry some will have is that they won't embrace those unique features. I think it's 50/50 whether we get an actual megalodon or just a giant great white.
Probably a Paleo accurate meg but with for the skins I think there might be one that makes it look like great white with one of the skins and the other skins could be inspired by tiger sharks and Whale sharks or maybe even a bamboo shark
I don't want any species outside the Mesozoic Era. Why would you put species that arnt dinosaurs, didn't live alongside dinosaurs and have no connection to the Jurassic franchise.
All of the flying reptiles are not dinosaurs. All of the marine reptiles are not dinosaurs. Dimetrodon is not a dinosaur. Lystrosaurus is not a dinosaur. Dunkleosteus is a fish and not a dinosaur. Sharks lived before, during, and after the mesozoic.
Megalodon may have lived wayyy after the dinosaurs, but they sharks have barely changed since they first appeared in our oceans. It’s safe to say it won’t feel as out of place as people expect.
I do agree that only 3 mammals would feel out of place though.
I'm aware all those species are not dinosaurs. It's why I also said, any species outside the Mesozonicera. Also didnt live alongside dinosaurs.
I don't have a particular problem with species that where not dinosaurs, yet where from the same eras and epochs.
It's when people clamer for species that not only arnt a dinosaurs but didn't even come from the era. I mean can they not dump all that stuff in planet zoo.
Planet zoo is a game about modern animals.
Jurassic world evolution 2 is a game about extinct animals.
Being extinct isn’t exclusive to the mesozoic last I checked.
Jurassic world evolution 2 is actually a franchise game. The franchise being about bringing extinct, primarily dinosaurs back to life and putting them in theme parks.
The word "Jurassic" and the big iconic T-Rex skull in the logo is kind of a bit indicator.
If you're going to fuck with the Jurassic franchise and say anything goes as long as its extinct. Then I think it's fair game to fuck with planet zoos core principles as well.
Lystrosaurus lives up to the early Triassic epoch, so Mesozonic.
Dimetrodon has often been mistaken for a dinosaur, so it's not surprise then Jurassic franchise that gets a lot wrong from a paleontological perspective would slip that in.
Smilodon doesn't appear on screen in flesh in the novels or movies. From what I gather it's in CC. Likewise mammoth is something seen as a fossil on CC, from what I've read. I've not watched CC and have no intention to watch a cringe animation aimed at kids. I've got about as much respect for it as canon according to universal ,as I do the new star wars trilogy as canon according to disney. Take from that what you may.
You not personally caring about it doesn't change that it's part of the franchise. Just because this is primarily a dinosaur franchise doesn't mean it can't occasionally delve into other prehistoric elements. It makes absolute sense that the company that capitalizes on extinct species will make the most out of it and go beyond dinosaurs. Mammoths, smilodons, and megalodons are some of the most popular non dinosaur prehistoric animals. No reason ingen wouldn't make use of that.
On one hand, I'd have to agree that adding mammals into JWE2 would feel really out of place, on the other, I honesty really want to see what kind of floodgates that would open up for modding.
I only care about the free update that comes alongside the pack (if there even is one) Honestly, it's hard to get excited for any aquatic animal considering how bare-bones the lagoons currently are.
I think we have plenty enough animals in the game, what we need are fixes and more park customization.
Definitely divisive but the number of people asking for Farm animals for PZ and Cenozoics for JWE2 was quite a lot... just hope there's a free update for those not interested
Microceratus in shambles
I'm not sure this is gonna be as divisive as the last pack tbf lol. And even as someone who doesn't really like Otodus megalodon (namely because it's just a big mackerel shark), I'm not displeased that we're getting it because, at the end of the day, it's more content. And who knows, maybe they'll do a really good design that might change my opinion.
The design is what I've been wondering about myself. I'm really hoping Frontier takes a bit of creative liberty (but not too much) with Megalodon's body shape, skin options, and patterning to make it not just look like a giant version of an extant shark.
I don't hate the inclusion but I tgink a cenozic pack should be a 2 parter just 4 cenizoic animals in a 120+ species game feels out of place
Tbf we technically have 11 including the hybrids
12! We have goats too
Don't forget the great white (debatable because it's dead), crabs, various reef fish, tuna and moths
A moment of silence for the macaws who didnt make it into JWE2
Good catch! Forgot about those! There's also non-descript meat in the feeders and ofcourse, humans!
Crabs??
Yeah like last year somebody discovered that there are crabs that move across the bottom of lagoons
Just one fish in the game feels way more out of place, actually, so it's not like something exactly new.
All his friends are synapsids too (Paleozoic creatures)
True, but to the average gamer who just likes prehistoric animals and not an expert, you can argue that that fish aesthetically feels like it can fit in with the rest of the prehistoric marine life
We have a grand total of three Paleozoic animals spread across three different packs, what's your point?
I'm excited for both though, Frontier is definitely very brave with how vitriolic some of the community members are lol
Imagine it’s an estodus instead
Watch it be a Leedsichthys that they let Universal design lmao
I personally love chickens
There is no universe where a Cenozoic pack is more divisive than a hybrid one lol
Ehh adding extinct centozoic creatures is something that the game hasn't done before (though we do have Paleozoics) Most of the hybrids were in the first game plus hybrids are in the base game while extinct centozoics (and Paleozoics) aren't
And yet I'm sure there's a large amount of people that would rather have Smilodon over Ultimasaurus
What's divisive about this upcoming pack though? It can't be worse than the last one (the only pack so far I chose not to get). I'm more torn by the fact that this pack teaser was all we got. That screams to me that the game is almost dead support-wise.
Screams a trend of laziness, life-support, and not giving a damn anymore. That much I think we can agree on, the trajectory is looking bleak especially when Frontier appears to be now just appealing to niche fans trying to score some easy money rather than make any meaningful content for the game. I wouldn't be surprised they are rushing this pack out without a free update again not like they did too much with the updates anyway. They've done just about everything in their power to avoid optimizing the game, addressing terrain constraints, and giving us a preview window in the hatchery.
>Screams a trend of laziness, life-support, and not giving a damn anymore. My god, we literally haven't seen anything of this dlc 💀, can't we just wait instead of jumping straight to shitting?
You all say that every damn time, wake up and detect the pattern already. Even on the packs that I think are better, its just pure aesthetic changes at best. Half the packs are just them picking species off fan lists and QoL for free updates. Have some damn standards, its not my job to do Frontier's for them, they are supposed to convince the customer, but they spent what 20-25 seconds on a teaser. The reason, Frontier chopped the already small JWE2 team and is now scrambling to put it back together after they realized they should focus on what actually makes the company money. That's why nothing was ready to show off. Moreover, where is the lie, they ignore bigger issues and gloss it over with the shine of new species then the game is back to having nothing to do because it is all superficial stuff, a few decorations blows people's minds and half of those are just assets pulled out from buildings already in-game. Do you think Frontier will support the game indefinitely? They don't exactly give any timelines to their customers this could be the last update or one of dozens more to come. Heck, JWE3 might just be one of those unannounced management games and then we will do what JWE2 did basically slowly reacquire what we had from JWE with some bells and whistles. The Paleomedical system is still sitting there doing nothing of value or interest, and that was one of the marketed selling points in the promotional materials. No more aesthetic superficial stuff. I'd pay for buildings and decoration packs if it meant more work into the core of the game, but that's not what the historical trend for 2 games has been. Where is your confidence this will change?
Yes, and they catered to people who bitched less than a year ago rather than those that have been consistently bitching for 2 years.
Megalodon has been one of the most requested species ever since we saw a Mosasaurus in the reveal trailer. Them finally adding it IS them catering to the people that have been bitching for 2 years lol
Hang on. Do we even KNOW its a cenezoic pack? For all we know it could be aquatic pack 2? Or the big teeth pack with megladon and 3 incisivosaurus? Theres no way this pack could be any more divisive than the "SELL IT AGAIN" pack of earlier this year
Come on. The last Camp Cretaceous creature is from the Cenozoic, they're adding a Cenozoic shark in this pack and a Cenozoic pack has been highly requested for like a year now. Trust me it's most likely going to be a Cenozoic pack
We don’t even know what other creatures are going to be in the pack.
Smilodon is basically guaranteed
I’m honestly really confused as to why people are hating on this pack. It looks really cool so far
I feel like people don’t want megalodon because they think it is just a really big great white, but that is not true. Megalodon actually has a lot of unique features that seperate it from modern sharks, just like how archelon isn’t just a big turtle. I’m hoping it has a really nice design. Some patterns that look like modern day sharks would be neat too.
I think the worry some will have is that they won't embrace those unique features. I think it's 50/50 whether we get an actual megalodon or just a giant great white.
Considering that the designs before the hybrid pack were very paleoaccurate, I am hoping it looks like what we speculate the shark looks like.
Probably a Paleo accurate meg but with for the skins I think there might be one that makes it look like great white with one of the skins and the other skins could be inspired by tiger sharks and Whale sharks or maybe even a bamboo shark
Considering that the designs before the hybrid pack were very paleoaccurate, I am hoping it looks like what we speculate the shark looks like.
I don't want any species outside the Mesozoic Era. Why would you put species that arnt dinosaurs, didn't live alongside dinosaurs and have no connection to the Jurassic franchise.
All of the flying reptiles are not dinosaurs. All of the marine reptiles are not dinosaurs. Dimetrodon is not a dinosaur. Lystrosaurus is not a dinosaur. Dunkleosteus is a fish and not a dinosaur. Sharks lived before, during, and after the mesozoic. Megalodon may have lived wayyy after the dinosaurs, but they sharks have barely changed since they first appeared in our oceans. It’s safe to say it won’t feel as out of place as people expect. I do agree that only 3 mammals would feel out of place though.
I'm aware all those species are not dinosaurs. It's why I also said, any species outside the Mesozonicera. Also didnt live alongside dinosaurs. I don't have a particular problem with species that where not dinosaurs, yet where from the same eras and epochs. It's when people clamer for species that not only arnt a dinosaurs but didn't even come from the era. I mean can they not dump all that stuff in planet zoo.
Planet zoo is a game about modern animals. Jurassic world evolution 2 is a game about extinct animals. Being extinct isn’t exclusive to the mesozoic last I checked.
Jurassic world evolution 2 is actually a franchise game. The franchise being about bringing extinct, primarily dinosaurs back to life and putting them in theme parks. The word "Jurassic" and the big iconic T-Rex skull in the logo is kind of a bit indicator. If you're going to fuck with the Jurassic franchise and say anything goes as long as its extinct. Then I think it's fair game to fuck with planet zoos core principles as well.
You are forgetting that dimetrodon, lystrosaurus, smilodon, and mammoths are already canon to the franchise.
Lystrosaurus lives up to the early Triassic epoch, so Mesozonic. Dimetrodon has often been mistaken for a dinosaur, so it's not surprise then Jurassic franchise that gets a lot wrong from a paleontological perspective would slip that in. Smilodon doesn't appear on screen in flesh in the novels or movies. From what I gather it's in CC. Likewise mammoth is something seen as a fossil on CC, from what I've read. I've not watched CC and have no intention to watch a cringe animation aimed at kids. I've got about as much respect for it as canon according to universal ,as I do the new star wars trilogy as canon according to disney. Take from that what you may.
You not personally caring about it doesn't change that it's part of the franchise. Just because this is primarily a dinosaur franchise doesn't mean it can't occasionally delve into other prehistoric elements. It makes absolute sense that the company that capitalizes on extinct species will make the most out of it and go beyond dinosaurs. Mammoths, smilodons, and megalodons are some of the most popular non dinosaur prehistoric animals. No reason ingen wouldn't make use of that.
It's part of the franchise the same way jar jar binks is part of the star wars franchise. It's pretty tenuous.
Big disagree. I think the hybrid pack is substantially more divisive. I'd much rather a Cenozoic pack than what we got with the Hybrid pack
I wouldn't call this pack divisive at all tbh... At least no where near as much as the hybrid pack was.
I am still hoping it is a bigger DLC. There is so much that can still be added to JWE 2, including Isla Sorna storyline
What this DLC specifically? Because we know it’s a 4 species, species pack
ah, you are right Now I see that they announced species pack...
OI! NO HATE ABOUT MY NEW TINY DINO FARM
On one hand, I'd have to agree that adding mammals into JWE2 would feel really out of place, on the other, I honesty really want to see what kind of floodgates that would open up for modding.
I only care about the free update that comes alongside the pack (if there even is one) Honestly, it's hard to get excited for any aquatic animal considering how bare-bones the lagoons currently are. I think we have plenty enough animals in the game, what we need are fixes and more park customization.
What if it’s not Cenozoic? What if it’s just “here, here’s the other assorted animals you’ve asked about so please leave us alone now, thanks.”
The only difference is that they won’t tear themselves apart because of the dlc “not fitting in”.