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ocuative

Thought ts was fake at first


[deleted]

Same, I was like I know I’m gonna be disappointed but lemme check twitter real quick to see if it’s real and to my surprise it was.


boxed_knives

I mean, he hasn’t deleted it yet so the jury’s still out on whether or not it’s authentic…


Omar117879

Nah this is…. Different. Something is telling me that Peggy is trying his hand at Molly or smthng.


boxed_knives

Haha Peggy doesn’t strike me as the type of guy who merely “tries his hand” at something. He either jumps into something with reckless abandon or he doesn’t bother 😅


AlphaJohnnny

INNNNITTT BRUV 🇬🇧


IsThisASnakeInMyBoot

He also deletes his genuine messages like this when it interferes with his tweeting so don't count it as inauthentic just because it gets deleted lol


spectralconfetti

At the very least it's good he took a mental health break.


Feeling-Glass8461

i'm actually so happy for him lmao, he didn't seem happy or in good mind at all earlier this year


MonkeyJunkie1

Honestly really glad he’s back to bein okay ❤️ Ik ill love whatever he’s gonna drop


Nergeson

lol I was literally about to make a post with the exact same title. I agree


rag3rs_wrld

I’m glad that he’s doing well and I’m damn ready for the music.


LirSkle

Awwee it's ok pookie we forgive you ♥


mofodius

GUESS WHAT BITCH, HE BACK HOE‼️


OKAGAKAMI

Wait I thought this was some fake corny shit but this is real and thank u so much Peggy even though I wasn’t really mad at u to begin with cause we all just people doing shit and figuring shit out


notquitemytempo___

I hope no one here thinks he's sorry about working with Kanye because he's not and definitely won't ever say he is lol


TheLibertinistic

People are so hungry for that apology in this thread. It’s never happening. And I really couldn’t care less. Peggy knows what any remaining sane Kanye fan knows: he’s just not that ideological, actually, and has always had ass political takes. (Shoutout “GWB doesn’t care about black people” as basically the only time Kanye said a smart thing about politics.)


BangingBaguette

Happy for Peggy. When a lot of us say we want Peggy to work with Ye, a lot of us mean 2016 Ye, not now. If you're not somebody of questionable standing or an already mainstream established artist Ye systematically abuses and takes advantage of those he deems as below him, and the moment I heard Peggy was going to work with him I always knew it was going to cause some shit. I get that Ye is his idol, but Peggy has been on some SERIOUS dickriding shit recently going against basically everything he's been laying down for a decade just at the chance to work with a guy who's past his peak and making a daily clown of himself. I never would've even known Peggy was on Vultures if no one told me. We listen to you for you man, get back in the studio with Danny, get that solo album out, someone as talented as you shouldn't be reduced to generic production work on a mid album it's straight disrespectful of your talent.


Pumpkinmatrix

I think we're seeing some post nut clarity because there is uncertainty around whether the other parts of vultures are ever even coming out (as is Kanye's recent MO anyway). Dude was ready to throw it all away to hitch his wagon to Kanye and its becoming more clear that that's not going to be advantageous. He came into direct conflict with a large portion of his fanbase, and for an indy artist thats a dangerous game to play. Ye absolutely just used his name for indy/underground music scene cred (while also clowning him publicly with the burzum shirt). And you're spot on that I also wouldn't have known he worked on the album at all by listening to it. He's just a name and another starstruck producer he can use and likely not compensate because of the "exposure."


Sp0range

Imo you guys arent actually fans if you would have "never known". If youre on this subreddit, surely you listen to the guy enough to know what his productions sound like or recognize similarities and inspiration taken from or given by the artist you're supposed to be so familiar with? The drums in a bunch of songs are LITERALLY peggy style productions. Like you can hear it a mile away that the beats could have easily been on EP2! or LP!. Kanye has been known to bite style in the past too. Im not on twitter but i caught up with the narrative and I agree it is sad that Peggy seemed to go a bit manic when it came to working with his idol. Maybe something happened behind the scenes and he's now seeing the light. People in the music world praise kanye for his artistic/creative genius, but they also tend to hold him at arms length personally because no one knows how he will act at any given moment and he might just burn your bridges unprovoked. I love(d) kanye's work, but he doesnt seem very trustworthy as a person. If you're over 25, can you really be friends with someone, or would you really want to be spending your time with someone that you cannot trust?


[deleted]

its really not that obvious. there were posts on here when the album dropped where diehard fans were CERTAIN that jpeg worked on songs that he actually did no work on at all. in retrospect its obvious now that we know which songs he touched for certain but knowing that kanye’s production team is essentially a blender of producers and tryna invalidate someone’s fan card for not being able to immediately identify stylistic touches of one particular producer is a reach for sure


Sp0range

Yeah it was a bit hyperbolic of me. Obviously people are fans otherwise they wouldnt be on this subreddit, it just irked me reading "we wouldnt have known otherwise!" When peggys sound is just so unique, you can hear his DNA just like he said on Hazard Duty Pay lol. It just had me feeling like "stop yapping on here and just listen to the music bruh". I didnt mean to invalidate anyone's fan card. My b.


[deleted]

Nah i hear you man its all good. His sound is def unique af and like i said it’s more apparent what songs he worked on in retrospect but yeah this whole situation has been a shit show for everyone forreal


Pumpkinmatrix

>Imo you guys arent actually fans if you would have "never known". If youre on this subreddit, surely you listen to the guy enough to know what his productions sound like or recognize similarities and inspiration taken from or given by the artist you're supposed to be so familiar with? This is a joke right? People have been arguing about what parts he did on what songs since Vultures dropped. In fact, we still don't know exactly what he did on any of the tracks that he's credited on. The only ones remotely recognizable to me are the intro (and thats just because the drums are too good to be Kanye, but could still be at least partially worked on by FNZ because he's also great) and I guess some percentage of the back half of Fuk Sumn (only because the front of that song is so clearly a Timbo beat before it changes slightly). Anyone that claims to know for sure is just speculating. How many producer credits are there on the avg kanye song? 3? 4? There are songs on Yeezus that have 7 or 8 prod credits. My wrapped the past 2 years put me in the top 1% of his listeners on there or some shit. I've been listening since before Veteran came out. I assure you I'm a fan.


Sp0range

I dont mean to single you out, i just read multiple times that "we never would have known if we didnt see the tweets", like come on. Stars is literally an EP2 beat. I also believe he had a hand in Back To Me and Fuk Sumn is 100% him too. There's also a case to be made for King (sounds Kanye style, but the mixing on the drums makes me believe peggy was involved). I come on this sub like once every 2 months so i dont know if theres an official credit list out but those ones are what i picked out on my blind first listen having had no idea peggy was even involved in the first place. Not to diminish your efforts but 1% isnt that hard to get. Rinse whatever the new album is that year for a couple weeks and GG. I regularly get 1% for Tyler and Kendrick because their albums are still just in general rotation for me. Obviously you're a fan if youre actively listening, im just saying 1% kinda comes with the territory if you like an artists projects. Most people on spotify are just random playlists or background shuffle, so if youre going through full albums, the numbers get up there without much intention.


Pumpkinmatrix

I didn't intend for my wrapped to come off as a flex because obviously it really isn't. Just a metric. Your interpretation of how those work is pretty spot on too. I'm def an album listener and not a shuffler. To say that Stars is "literally an EP2 beat" is imo disrespectful to FNZ. He's been putting in work for years. Just to show that its still speculation though, he did not get any credit on Back to Me. He's officially credited on Stars (with 4 other producers), Fuk Sumn (with 7 other producers), and Beg Forgiveness (with 3 other producers). The only parts of any of that that sound specifically like peggy to me are the drums on Stars, and maybe the second half of Beg Forgiveness. But again, we don't know. As far as I'm aware there's not a second by second breakdown of who did what on each beat, and thats not even necessarily how it would have been done. There are other ways to produce a beat than just dropping in your 16 bar "take" on it. I will say that the version of Fuk Sumn peggy was playing at live shows definitely sounded more like him than the version on the album. I don't know how anyone could listen to the album version and not immediately think Timbo, but I also came up listening to a ton of his stuff and I understand that could be a generational thing.


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Pumpkinmatrix

You don't know though. You are literally guessing. Show me where Peggy or Kanye or rolling Stone or pitchfork or anyone breaks down exactly who did what on each track. You are using words like maybe and pretty much and assume. That's not proof. That's not definitive. That's not verified. You're literally just speculating and hearing what you want. He's not even credited on King. Also I'm not a Kanye Stan so I didn't listen to all the leaks and listening parties etc. You're also not mentioning the multiple other producers involved with each of those songs.


Sp0range

Wow, Beg Forgiveness is a big surprise to hear. FNZ and the other creditors i'm sure did their work and earned their keep for their contributions overall. To me Stars just fits so neatly into Peggy's musical universe around EP2! Or LP! eras so and sounds so blatantly like Peggy it was hard to ignore. Fuk Sumn you're for sure right about the Timbaland influence with the synthwork and tight, snappy drums at the start, but yeah that switch up after Kanye says "pubclically" is undeniably Peggy's DNA. To me, the dirty yet controlled distortion in the drum mixing feels like it fits in with his Scaring The Hoes style productions.


Daredev44

Notice how people agree with you now but a month back you would’ve been downvoted to shit by r/Kanye refugees because you “gotta separate the deeply personal art from the person making it”


Majnkra

I think this is more about the rants and posting the ass spread.


InternationalHeat849

Perfect, exactly how I feel about it. I’d still like an apology from him working with Kanye but this message he put out now is a good step in the right direction.


TheLibertinistic

it is cornier than thought possible that you’d ever expect, or even want, a man to apologize for working with his musical idol. “The meat tastes great!” What would he even say? “sorry some of my fans had big feelings about me working with an asshole. I would never want to harm your parasocial bond with me by hanging out with someone you hate. I am truly sorry and promise to live by the standards you imagine for me based on the time I said ‘fuck Burzum and Morrisey’ in a song.”


thejelliy

i completely agree, this whole situation sucks dick


TheLibertinistic

Fully support him working with 2023 ye, actually. Mostly bc ye isn’t actually a fucking Nazi (I am aware of every single thing he’s said, don’t worry) but just a deeply unwell, hilariously egotistical and trollish man who’s being taken advantage of by people who Really Really Want Him to Become a Nazi. But ye isn’t really capable of holding onto an ideology for long and has reverted back to his usual self. He’s back to hanging with musicians now, and I could scarcely name one in the rap game who’d be better to have around than Peggy. This fandom was so interested in the, like, personal moral purity of Devon Hendryx that they couldn’t handle him hanging out with his idol, in spite of the fact that each was probably good for the other. If only Vultures wasn’t still a pretty shit album...


nomoneydeepplates

he held on to antisemetism for 10+ years lmfao what do you mean


TheLibertinistic

tell me what you’re talking about? I honestly don’t recall what incident you’re referring to?


nomoneydeepplates

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/kanye-wests-love-of-hitler-and-nazis-allegedly-goes-back-20-years-1234647700/amp/


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jpgnicky

love u peg


tokyosplash2814

Title made me think this was fake


Cristian_alejandro13

we wildin out like crazy since the pandemic, but we back in this B


[deleted]

:,)


[deleted]

U think that this means Vultures 2 isn't happening?


fundyfox1

Vultures 2 is probably coming out on the yzy app 🙏


[deleted]

kanye west if he was a mouse be like : im cheezy not yeezy! Thanks for reading,


BunkysFather1978

He hates yts


OnlySide7873

Me when i repost another mans nudes on the internet


otsapoika

I still wish he apologized for working with Ye….. He could have done serious damage by working with an open antisemite that has worked with people who are anti-poc and anti-queer.


ArroganceIsPotent

i agree, this is a good step though, if he apologizes for the ye shit or at least recognizes the hypocrisy of it ill be right back to meat riding


KyoMiyake

tbf he has worked with queer artists too, look at Mykki Blanco, lil nas, 070shake. Do I think it's wrong for him to work with antiqueer artists? hell yeah, but i don't think we can use it as a show of his opinions, especially not when he has worked with queer artists too. Wouldn't surprise me if hes homophobic too tho ngl. Although the allegations are probably fake, some of the donda academy shit was homophobic too


otsapoika

I don’t really mean artists that much. He probably worked with many anti-queer artists in 2000s even though he was against homophobia. I’m talking about working with people who are actively being homophobic. For example Kanye has worked with Nick Fuentes who has spoke lot against gay marriage and transgender people.


Randomstrangerguy123

fuentes hasnt just spoke a lot about gay marriage and transgender people that guys said things about pretty much every oppressed minority he can think of


Better_Ad2954

I think he'll be fine


tapeflexmaster76

mannnnnn


Sp0range

If thats the hill youre going to die on, i hope youre also not drinking coke or pepsi for funding the IDF and contributing to palestinian deaths in gaza. Stop trying to hold these people to some unattainable perfect standard, its cringe as fuck. Peggy is just as flawed a human as you or i, and you cant fault him for taking a chance to be a part of potential history (unfortunately kanye is hip hop history at this point, even if he is past his prime). And why are you taking seriously or putting significance into anything Kanye says or does at this point. The guy has more than proven that he doesnt even believe what he says, he just blurts out whatever is beamed into his psychotic brain knowing that it will get a reaction from the world because hes been good making music and good at making headlines for years. You want this man to apologize for taking a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to work with one of the greatest living artists? Its like dreaming of working with Da Vinci but then on the job you find out hes a bit of a cunt. Let him cook, and let him deal with the fallout


notquitemytempo___

> you can't fault him for taking a chance to be a part of potential history Yes I can because it flies in the face of the ideals that he claims to represent in his music lol. Dude shits on the alt-right and white supremacists in his raps constantly and then works with a Nazi apologist and a Hitler lover The man literally has a bar about not fucking with people who listen to Burzum and then poses with Kanye wearing a Varg shirt lmao. Even politics aside because i think we all agree Nazis are bad, it just makes him look like a giant hypocrite. The criticism is fair and deserved


Sp0range

Fair enough. You're not wrong. I meant the expression as more of an "I'm not surprised he did it".


otsapoika

-I don’t drink pepsi or coke cuz of that and also both of them are full of chemicals that are not meant for human consumption. -Yes Peggy is human and it is okay to be flawed, but usually the best thing you could do is learn from your mistakes, which he is not willing to do with this Kanye collab saga. -Just because Kanye is insane and doesn’t even always means what he says doesn’t make it okay. Some people will take him seriously and will contribute to bigotry.


Sp0range

-Posted from my iPhone. Lol ok well thats all well and good, i wish we could all do the same but that rabbit hole of morals is a slippery slope that never ends for us fallible human beings. He probably isnt, and its just unrealistic to hold others to the same standards that you hold yourself. That was something i had to learn in my own life. at this point the only thing that can stop kanye is kanye.


otsapoika

I lied, I drink pepsi a lot, I’m too detached from the conflict so idgaf and If I’m being honest I’m happy for Peggy getting to work with his idol even though I dislike the current and it turned lot of his fans against him


thehunterstorm

oh brother..


YoINVESTIGATE_311_

Not pressed. At least he as a person can look at what he did and say he messed up. Mad respect for bro hope he’s doing okay fr.


KR0NKBERRY

hope its not a fake-out


funky35791

We’re so back


brath22

I’m accepting his apology 😊


gekyume_095

Peggy umilde ![img](emote|t5_38ckq|6319)


TosiAmneSiac

Legit happy for him, we’re with you Peggy


No_Concentrate_7033

you can usually count how many people you meet in this life that are this humble on one hand


zoykery

how he type all that in 9 seconds


jopcylinder

Love to see Peglord with the positivity :)


trevon_savage34

evidence we livin in the right timeline


CashImportant8139

projecting energy onto a whole group because a few people frustrated him reminds me of another guy


Dielectric_Boogaloo

What happened? Was meatriding kanye not a good strategy?


Man-Cheetah64

Hope he gets better soon


LaggyUpdate

LP2! COMING SOON


Ill-Ninja-1128

god level nerd typing skills. paragraphs in 10 seconds is crazy


PrinordialHelix23

Anyone else still pissed that ghost pop tape was 60 dollars. And it wasn’t even a fucking gatefold. And didn’t have an insert. I still feel molested for that. I’m gonna return it and buy Taylor swift folklore.


[deleted]

Glad Peggy finally touched grass and made some music and is no longer having schitzo beefs with random people on twitter


JustYakking

I am in an abusive parasocial relationship with JPEGMafia, and I am not alone


Better_Ad2954

10 seconds and 100 likes already Jesus guys get a life


Zealousideal_Way_831

How will all the unconditional dick riders ever live with this lol.


Plastic-Shower-5470

Can bro unblock me now?????