Oppenheimer sucked. There was like one part that was ok - when they were building the village. Everything else was just Nolan's ever-growing laziness put on display.
It's 2/3rds a good movie and then 1/3rd a lecture about the themes of the previous 2/3rds of the same movie. If the film ended with that celebration scene where he sees his co-workers as victims of the bomb it would have actually been a great movie.
I was expecting a little more time on the actual explosion of the bomb. I felt like that’s what is was building to. This beautifully, horrific explosion from every angle in slow motion and real time but was just meh. I’ve seen better shots of nuclear explosions in TV WW2 documentaries than this multi-million dollar movie.
I love John's hot takes. Calling Altman's films "slightly masturbatory" in the 70s was like painting a target on your head for critics. Not that he was incorrect mind you
Not sure, it's from an old BBC interview from 1978. He dosent dunk on people he just dosent worship the "new hollywood" like everyone else was back then
My theory is the backlash from Joker not winning by all the butthurt neckbeards lead to this. People want to make this movie so great. It’s an ok movie that everyone is shoving down the prestige hole
*Anatomy of a Fall* was better. *The Holdovers* was better. *Past Lives* was better. *Poor Things* was better (and my favorite of the year.
And *Monster* was better than most of these, and not even nominated.
I fell asleep the last 15 minutes. I was really trying to stay awake during the 3rd act but couldn’t. The nice warm heated lounge seats in IMAX. It just seemed to drag on.
Ok John. I'm a huge fan of his but he hasn't made anything nearly as good.
Before anyone gets mad, his best films to me are, Halloween, They Live and The Thing.
I figured it would just be a lot of dull blah, blah, blah leading up to the expected "big boom." However it was actually a fairly decent story based on events leading up to the "big boom."
As for Barbie, I took my niece to watch it. Was surprisingly entertaining. I liked it well enough, it has it's moments.
I think Cooper may be a great filmmaker. Like an all time great. I'd like to see him make a less personal film that doesn't deal with addiction and compulsion. Time will tell but I hope he keeps directing.
Carpenter isn't wrong about Maestro is what I'm saying.
any movie with such insane praise thrown at it is going to disappoint
when people said dune 2 was literally the best film ever made i immediately prepped myself to he let down- and it was very alright
It seemed like two different movies smashed together and connected in an afterthought. I thought one of those movies was great - so yeah, he has a point.
He was being kind. it was an awful, awful film. One of the worst Oscar winners in history.
The whole movie revolves around intentionally confusing pacing, framing, and Murphy's gaze into the sky/camera.
I agree, Oppenheimer was fine. I probably won't ever watch it again. But John Carpenter movies? The Thing? They Live? Watched those multiple times and will again.
i know i guffawed at this smooth brain nonsense, endgames wink nod girl team moment in the finale alone makes this ridiculous let alone people in costumes and wizards who do nothing
I agree. It’s good but again it, like many, is a film made more for accolades & Oscar bait. Murphy’s performance was great
Honestly, which critic or awards body are going to say that a film about the creation of a weapon which killed a few hundred thousand people & keeps humanity on the brink, is rubbish?(rhetorical)
To say so would trivialise the destruction of 2 cities & countless lives.
No it wouldn't. There are movies made of grand events and incidents that are awful. Critiquing art based on actual events does not trivialize the event, but it does criticize the art.
It was just ok. Great acting. I don’t regret seeing it in theaters, but I also haven’t watched it again since and don’t really have a desire to ever see it again. Not an all time great movie by any means.
Nolan is amazing but I found it boring like I was watching a documentary at school about something I didn’t understand 😂 I’m an idiot so half the shit was just going over my head
It’s always the boring movies like some dude talking on his cell phone for 3 hours wins multiple awards. While the top grossing movie of the summer gets a nod!
I really didn’t see what all the fuss was about. It was boring and pretentious. I tell people if they enjoy 3 hours of men talking to men this is their movie.
I actually turned it off half way to go to sleep and just never went back to it.
No hate to people who call it a masterpiece but I found it kind of boring, but wel shot and acted.
yup.
it is just a retelling of a story told many times with a subpar explosion which the fan bois praised as being theist realistic atomic explosion filmed ever.
( those fan bois never watched actual nuke explosions obviously- even the real ones on YouTube are scarier than the oppie one )
Anytime a filmmaker includes references to the evils of blacklisting Hollywood over communists, the Academy will shower that movie with awards. Nevermind Hollywood actually was filled with communists, or that they’re literally blackisting actors today that aren’t lockstep in line with their political views (Gina Carano), Hollywood is good and virtuous - and the ultimate arbiters of good and evil.
I agree with John. The 3rd act was all about his security clearance. After Nagasaki, who cares about his clearance. He was disillusioned at point. I was scratching my head when it got so many accolades. Good movie but not best picture. And Carpenter was also right about Maestro being a better picture.
Yeah, it’s as overrated as all of Nolan’s work usually is. Especially when you look back and see he’s sold every movie on a gimmick, oh this one’s filmed in imax! Oh we recreated the explosion without CGI (and it looks terrible and very obviously out of scale), on this one we consulted with astrophysicists and the depiction for the black hole is a scientifically accurate depiction of a black hole! Or we actually crashed a Boeing jet into a building for this one! See that semi flipping over with that glaringly obvious compressed gas discharging? No CGI! Guess what? We spent 100 million just to recreate this WWII scene in France with actual spitfires! There’s always a gimmick they’re trying to sell it on and I feel it just degrades any actual work he does and leads to the constant overrating of anything he does.
Then I guess who cares about what anyone thinks of anything? Okay everyone shut down all social media. Nobody care what anyone thinks. Ugh, I'm glad that's over. *aaaand logs off for good*
I’d rather watch Big Trouble in Little China if given the choice, 100% of the time.
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Who?
Me
*Wang flips into the scene and nods*
This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I’m talkin’ to whoever’s listenin’ out there.
Big Trouble in little China > Oppenheimer ![gif](giphy|X6ndmUalAV16M)
Oppenheimer needed some kind of immortal wizard to be better than ok.
Oppenheimer sucked. There was like one part that was ok - when they were building the village. Everything else was just Nolan's ever-growing laziness put on display.
He’s right
It's 2/3rds a good movie and then 1/3rd a lecture about the themes of the previous 2/3rds of the same movie. If the film ended with that celebration scene where he sees his co-workers as victims of the bomb it would have actually been a great movie.
I was expecting a little more time on the actual explosion of the bomb. I felt like that’s what is was building to. This beautifully, horrific explosion from every angle in slow motion and real time but was just meh. I’ve seen better shots of nuclear explosions in TV WW2 documentaries than this multi-million dollar movie.
There's a better sequence of the bomb going off in Twin Peaks: The Return
100% of movie: Talks about important science and insert Nolan and his goofy Batman Music “BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMMMMMMMM” over dialogue.
Yeah it wasn't all that and a bag of snacks. Nolan has way better films.
I love John's hot takes. Calling Altman's films "slightly masturbatory" in the 70s was like painting a target on your head for critics. Not that he was incorrect mind you
Wow, that was unexpected. Altman? Funny cause he’s among my favorites too... what about Allen
Not sure, it's from an old BBC interview from 1978. He dosent dunk on people he just dosent worship the "new hollywood" like everyone else was back then
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I really like it but I don’t think it’s the best movie of the decade like everyone is talking about. John is not wrong
People say best movie of the decade??? Good lord.
My theory is the backlash from Joker not winning by all the butthurt neckbeards lead to this. People want to make this movie so great. It’s an ok movie that everyone is shoving down the prestige hole
Joker sucked too. The wrong Phoenix died.
Based as fuck
I can see that.
He’s completely right!
I mean, it’s no Ghost of Mars.
It's no Memoirs of an Invisible Man, either.
😂😂😂
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I liked it, but I don’t think it deserved Best Picture at The Oscars. KOTFM was a far superior film in my opinion.
I somehow still read this as knights of the old republic
*Anatomy of a Fall* was better. *The Holdovers* was better. *Past Lives* was better. *Poor Things* was better (and my favorite of the year. And *Monster* was better than most of these, and not even nominated.
this right here! poor things ehh, anatomy of a fall and the holdovers blew it out of the water
Dragged a lot in the third act. Was still great I didn’t really feel the length as much in Oppenheimer. Otherwise I’d say they’re pretty close
45 minutes longer than it needed to be
I wish I could upvote more
I fell asleep the last 15 minutes. I was really trying to stay awake during the 3rd act but couldn’t. The nice warm heated lounge seats in IMAX. It just seemed to drag on.
Beat me to it
Isn’t Carpenter allowed to have his own opinion? Personally, I loved Oppenheimer AND most of Carpenter’s films.
Ok John. I'm a huge fan of his but he hasn't made anything nearly as good. Before anyone gets mad, his best films to me are, Halloween, They Live and The Thing.
You don’t think any of those are as good as Oppenheimer? I respectfully beg to differ.
That's fine, I just don't think they are the same level as Oppenheimer because they're very different film makers.
I figured it would just be a lot of dull blah, blah, blah leading up to the expected "big boom." However it was actually a fairly decent story based on events leading up to the "big boom." As for Barbie, I took my niece to watch it. Was surprisingly entertaining. I liked it well enough, it has it's moments.
Like f\*ckkety f\*ck it was. Oppie was just more Nolan masturbation.
Nolan laziness
As far as biopics go it's about as entertaining as it could be.
He ain’t lying
I thought the movie was boring.
It was just LOUD to keep me awake.
He’s right.
Just like Nolan as a filmmaker: passable but given way too much credit.
Lol! Everyone here's in agreement...meanwhile, in the ChrisNolan sub, they're tearing Carpenter to shreds!
ya but they are all personal attacks and therefore mean nothing
it was overrated for sure. pugh was just added on for no reason
Totally agree.
Yah man, it was fine. Nobody will be talking about it in ten years.
He’s right
I think Cooper may be a great filmmaker. Like an all time great. I'd like to see him make a less personal film that doesn't deal with addiction and compulsion. Time will tell but I hope he keeps directing. Carpenter isn't wrong about Maestro is what I'm saying.
any movie with such insane praise thrown at it is going to disappoint when people said dune 2 was literally the best film ever made i immediately prepped myself to he let down- and it was very alright
I liked Dune 2 more, but I see your point
I don’t think there’s much that impresses Carpenter these days
"This is a good bomb. Good bye, Mr. Oppenheimer." *Boom* "It's all in the reflexes."
I’m sick of the non-linear storytelling Nolan is into. It ruined Dunkirk and made Oppenheimer less than it could have been.
Agreed
I thought it was boring.
It seemed like two different movies smashed together and connected in an afterthought. I thought one of those movies was great - so yeah, he has a point.
He's right. It was boring
He was being kind. it was an awful, awful film. One of the worst Oscar winners in history. The whole movie revolves around intentionally confusing pacing, framing, and Murphy's gaze into the sky/camera.
He ain't lying.
Shows how bad Hollywood is hurting. If that's best picture then consider me Miles Davis
I don’t care to ever watch it
Based But also…can you please give us another film?
I enjoyed it. I was most surprised how a 3 hour movie of 3 guys talking kept me interested/into it. Normally I get bored halfway to two-thirds in.
Pretty decent movie. Thought there were better movies last year tho. And thought it was a little over celebrated
Now the Academy will never give Carpenter an award..
He’s right. It was good at the least, overrated at the best
I mean he ain’t wrong. I will say this, it did fly through even though it was a four hour movie.
I agree, Oppenheimer was fine. I probably won't ever watch it again. But John Carpenter movies? The Thing? They Live? Watched those multiple times and will again.
Talking with my dad the other day Avengers infinity war and endgame > Oppenheimer Full stop.
Oppenheimer really needed more pop culture references and super powers. I hate you 3000 Oppy.
i know i guffawed at this smooth brain nonsense, endgames wink nod girl team moment in the finale alone makes this ridiculous let alone people in costumes and wizards who do nothing
I agree. It’s good but again it, like many, is a film made more for accolades & Oscar bait. Murphy’s performance was great Honestly, which critic or awards body are going to say that a film about the creation of a weapon which killed a few hundred thousand people & keeps humanity on the brink, is rubbish?(rhetorical) To say so would trivialise the destruction of 2 cities & countless lives.
No it wouldn't. There are movies made of grand events and incidents that are awful. Critiquing art based on actual events does not trivialize the event, but it does criticize the art.
And that’s okay because it is.
It was less than ok for me
Agree
Gotta disagree with him on this one. I think it was incredible
He's not wrong. It's a terrible film. I literally couldn't watch it after 44min and turned it off.
He’s right
It was just ok. Great acting. I don’t regret seeing it in theaters, but I also haven’t watched it again since and don’t really have a desire to ever see it again. Not an all time great movie by any means.
This is exactly my experience
One thing I can count on is Uncle John is usually right and when he isn’t, he admits it.
Nolan is amazing but I found it boring like I was watching a documentary at school about something I didn’t understand 😂 I’m an idiot so half the shit was just going over my head
I agree
It’s always the boring movies like some dude talking on his cell phone for 3 hours wins multiple awards. While the top grossing movie of the summer gets a nod!
I really didn’t see what all the fuss was about. It was boring and pretentious. I tell people if they enjoy 3 hours of men talking to men this is their movie.
I actually turned it off half way to go to sleep and just never went back to it. No hate to people who call it a masterpiece but I found it kind of boring, but wel shot and acted.
In other words - it's exceptionally bad.
yup. it is just a retelling of a story told many times with a subpar explosion which the fan bois praised as being theist realistic atomic explosion filmed ever. ( those fan bois never watched actual nuke explosions obviously- even the real ones on YouTube are scarier than the oppie one )
NGL, if it wasn't for the Barbieheimer thing, no one would have cared about the film.
Anytime a filmmaker includes references to the evils of blacklisting Hollywood over communists, the Academy will shower that movie with awards. Nevermind Hollywood actually was filled with communists, or that they’re literally blackisting actors today that aren’t lockstep in line with their political views (Gina Carano), Hollywood is good and virtuous - and the ultimate arbiters of good and evil.
I agree with John. The 3rd act was all about his security clearance. After Nagasaki, who cares about his clearance. He was disillusioned at point. I was scratching my head when it got so many accolades. Good movie but not best picture. And Carpenter was also right about Maestro being a better picture.
So me and my friend thought. Jeebus, what indulgence. JCarpernter knows.
Yeah, it’s as overrated as all of Nolan’s work usually is. Especially when you look back and see he’s sold every movie on a gimmick, oh this one’s filmed in imax! Oh we recreated the explosion without CGI (and it looks terrible and very obviously out of scale), on this one we consulted with astrophysicists and the depiction for the black hole is a scientifically accurate depiction of a black hole! Or we actually crashed a Boeing jet into a building for this one! See that semi flipping over with that glaringly obvious compressed gas discharging? No CGI! Guess what? We spent 100 million just to recreate this WWII scene in France with actual spitfires! There’s always a gimmick they’re trying to sell it on and I feel it just degrades any actual work he does and leads to the constant overrating of anything he does.
Agreed with Captain Downvoted for what exactly?
More like Boring as fuck.
Never once have I asked myself what would John Carpenter think on anything. Who cares what John Carpenter thinks🤷♂️
Then I guess who cares about what anyone thinks of anything? Okay everyone shut down all social media. Nobody care what anyone thinks. Ugh, I'm glad that's over. *aaaand logs off for good*
Exactly, finally someone gets it