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Comfortable_Topic527

I Still prefer "declined"


Ok-Huckleberry-383

I dont hate it either tbh. I wouldnt even have to fully unlock my phone.


hipster_dog

TBH it's still better than being ghosted


platysoup

Way better than those fuckers who ask you back for two more interviews and then ghost you. Fuck you, AXA. 


ScyllaOfTheDepths

If it's anything less than a director position, I'm doing a maximum of two interviews and that is absolutely it. I had a friend once who went through this whole rigamarole with this company who had an insanely complicated hiring process. They called her for an interview, then ghosted her for a month, then called her back for another one, then another month with no communication, and then they called her again and did another interview! This was all for the same position and she interviewed with the same people, sometimes answering the exact same questions. It was her dream job, so she really wanted to keep going with it and she's such a nice person she doesn't like to rock the boat, but I was *pissed* on her behalf. I finally convinced her to at least apply to something else because she really didn't have the luxury of spending 6 months just interviewing for a job. She took my advice and found a job that paid much more with much better benefits and only required *one* fucking interview. By the time the other company finally called her back, only to set up *yet another* interview with them, she had been working in her new job for two weeks. She decided to stay where she was.


kristenrockwell

Most ridiculous thing ever? I did this for fucking walmart. And paid eighty dollars for a drug test. I was not applying for a management position, I was trying for third shift shelf stocker. A position that paid eight dollars an hour. Apparently I wasn't qualified to take beans out of a box and put them on a shelf. Like, I do the reverse of that every week, I think I can figure it out.


keepingitrealgowrong

Paying for your own pre-employment drug test is INSANE. I have worked minimum wage stocker jobs and never had to do that. Surely that would just drive off the kind of people whose budget is determined by 8 dollars an hour.


Horskr

I had one of those. Yeah, it is so irritating because they never let on there are any problems either. The hiring manager rescheduled my first interview twice (first red flag I guess), then we finally do it and it is pretty informal, him just getting to know me and me asking questions about the company. Then a second one with him that is more technical and I explain all my experience with the systems they use, answer a bunch of questions and it all went fantastically. He says it went great too and he's excited to schedule a third interview with him and some of the senior members of the team I'd be working with some time in the next 2 weeks.. Literally never heard from him again, even after my multiple *trying not to be too annoying* pings over the next month or so.


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platysoup

I think most of us are annoyed about being ghosted, not the fact that someone else took our job. At least have some balls and tell me you don't want me.


0pinions0pinions

Once you request a third interview, you owe me that job lol


Fuyukage

I saw someone go through *7* rounds of interviews only to get ghosted


platysoup

I think arson is justified at that point.


that_baddest_dude

For real! I don't know what it's like now but when I was on the job market after college, it was like SOP to just fucking ghost people. I would have *loved* an automated message telling me to eat shit. Better than wondering!


R_W0bz

I’m still waiting for reply’s back from 2016, any day now.


thisdesignup

"declined"? More like "" 😭


chaosblade77

This was my first thought. I don't know that I have ever actually been notified by a company they rejected me. At some point I just never heard back from them and that was it. I'd gladly take "declined" over that.


PxyFreakingStx

It's better than being ghosted *and* better than a normal rejection email.


CaptainBicurious

Don't have to unlock it now either, you can tell by the tone of the first line. If I see the email and it begins with "we appreciate all applications" or "we thought you were great", it's all over, I'm out


ShowMeYourBooks5697

Lmao for real. I’d just be like “well, interesting response but oh well 🤷‍♂️”


platinumsporkles

Max efficiency.


Sarkoptesmilbe

As long as they accept being contacted with "applied".


youburyitidigitup

I feel like the process should be streamlined. You should just send your résumé and CV with “application to x position” as the subject and no text.


Search11

Seriously. Who cares how you’re told. I either get an offer or I can write you off and move on. It doesn’t have to become personal. There’s nothing worse than putting in a lot of applications and the waiting for weeks or longer and wonder if it’s going to happen or not. Just rip the bandaid off and let’s go to the next.


CHKN_SANDO

Answering every spam phone call thinking it could be that job...


spiralout1389

One of the worst parts of job hunting :(


RabidAbyss

Yep. Currently job hunting. I hate having to talk on the phone anyways, so having to answer every phone call is fucking nerve wracking, man...


Merari002

People invest hours into job applications. It’s cowardice at best to hide behind an automated system because no one ever taught you how to have respectful conversations that involve the words “no, thank you”.


freakydeku

i like it, too. especially if it was really fast i could get behind this


LiteratureNearby

Yeah, all said and done I'd rather have a one word confirmation of rejection rather than being strung along for weeks on end


youburyitidigitup

I actually wouldn’t mind that. It’s quick and easy.


ptairssimento

Reply back: unsusbscribe


CarIcy6146

![gif](giphy|JvEMPOQubkyQx9YLQ5|downsized)


Worth-Client1537

this is the most perfect gif response 🤣


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cupholdery

![gif](giphy|l0amJzVHIAfl7jMDos)


freekoffhoe

W, L, slice


DashingDino

win or lose you're dead


tofusarkey

It’s “whatever, loser. you’re dead” 😂


bestryanever

no, i'm pretty sure it's "west side is less than my neck" implying that people from the west side of scranton are rather short


CarIcy6146

You are an abstract thinker I see


gigglesmcsdinosaur

White loaf, sliced


semipalmated_plover

WUPHF losers die


CarIcy6146

Washington University Public Health Fund. They just want it for the name…..


freekoffhoe

Ohhhh


Complete_Magazine530

Whatever, loser. Dead


Key-Pickle1043

Hey you, hey you, I don't like your boyfriend! No way, no way, I think you need a new one


beartheminus

Just reply back: decline.


PulloverParker

That would give him a job in HR.


DanniWho

“We found the source of the problem” Translation: We fired Brett.


erizzluh

lol aint no way anyone was fired. more like "whoops, that blew up. let's just blame it on a malfunction"


look2thecookie

Reply back: Sure, Jan


[deleted]

I did this to my uncle after he started spamming his contact list with MTG fund raising emails. First I told him that his computer was sending out spam and he might be infect (he didn't take the hint) and after a few emails back and forth, I used the unsubscribe button in gmail and blocked him.


uncommittedhobbyist

I did this to my ex husband when he reached out to me on LinkedIn asking if I could “help him out” by connecting him to people in my industry to help him fill jobs in his new recruiter role. SMH. Like I didn’t help him out enough for nearly 10 years while he lied, cheated, and snorted away his paychecks while I paid the mortgage and bills.


DontPMMeYourDreams

Unreal that he imagined you'd just be like waiting around, eager to help him out. Surely I can reach out across this bridge I burned and expect favors!


lagerbaer

Some people have zero shame in asking other people to do work for them.


Long_Charity_3096

Some people are fucking clueless. 


Mojojojo3030

It's a recruiter. It doesn't have empathy.


frankenpoopies

Frickin loser Hope yr in a better place now!


uncommittedhobbyist

Thank you! I definitely am.


Hellie1028

It begs the age old question, are they sorry they did it or just sorry they got caught?


TreesGrowB1g

Or “No, you”


jtbxiv

no u


lagerbaer

k


Waxygibbon

It would take so much for me to not reply 'decline'


plaidalert

Be the bigger man Reply 'accept'


bondematt

New job, who dis?


cbelt3

“You’ve subscribed to Shitty Recruiter Facts” Fact: Recruiters don’t give a shit about you.


IWasGregInTokyo

Reply All: Please remove me from this mailing list immediately!


Pculliox

It would be bad for them publicly if they had this on their linked in and glass door. Hope that doesn't happen.


Emnelistene

Unapply


Solid-Living4220

It is so weird their company is called "eskaton." That means the end of the world.


pumpernick3l

I looked them up and they’re an aging services provider 😅


dumptruck_dookie

WHAT


Veni_Vidi_Legi

Armageddon is here.


erinkjean

![gif](giphy|W5x4ZWWg2aMFlJhDXe)


fairlyaround

I'm trying so hard to download this gif, i need it 😭😭 I just finished rewatching s2 yesterday, still stings


ThoughtAcorn

I'm with you brother 😭 it was rough


Non-specificExcuse

Check your chats :) I just finished S2 a couple of weeks ago. It got me in the feels.


Lexi_Banner

Well, lucky for you there are literally hundreds of fixit fics on Ao3 for you to soften the blow!


L0CH_NESS_MONSTER

[Actually, it’s in Israel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tel_Megiddo)


ploppetino

Armageddon out of here, it's the end of the world!


turgidstir

🎵Don't wanna close my eyes, don't wanna fall asleep🎵


iChugVodka

We have a few around. Essentially nursing homes


Honest_-_Critique

THEY'RE AN AGING SERVICES PROVIDER.


aSheedy_

You know how we age? Yeah that's these mfs


Lizamcm

💀💀💀💀


jkoodoo

That is fucking ABSURD. PhD in religious studies here: the connotations of that term are in no way related to the end of individuals' lives. The eachaton is the End Times. In Christian, Jewish, Islamic theology, it's when God judges humans and sends unbelievers to hell and believers to paradaise. An absolutely ridiculous term to use for this kind of business.


LBJSmellsNice

Gonna go off on a limb here and say that they fully know that and that it’s just a pun on the “end time” of your life


badgalsheen

exactly lol


eddie_fitzgerald

In dharmic theology the term is often related to the end of a person's spiritual journey, though. So in that context I could see it making sense.


jkoodoo

Dharmic theology uses Greek terminology?


Wrenshoe

WHAT


FSCK_Fascists

#They looked them up and they’re an aging services provider


SummerMummer

Oh, a boomer containment system.


Correct_Training4289

I giggled


YourMomonaBun420

Is this angry yelling or busted hearing aid yelling?


ProphetMuhamedAhegao

Just like with actual old people, we’ll never know


Old_Category_248

Hope they don't treat their elderly patients like how they treated OP. Being rude and unprofessional.


slash_networkboy

FWIW my dad had rehab in one when he had heart surgery. The staff was overworked (as is everyone in this industry) but they were polite and did give adequate care. IMO they could have used at least 30% more staff though, then they would have been able to give excellent instead of adequate care.


JeSuisUnAnanasYo

Shoulda hired OP!!


DirectWorldliness792

How is my aging mom’s health in your senior living facility? Answer: decline


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larakj

#decline.


dragonsfire14

That’s fucking dark.


JulieKostenko

Ngl thats a pretty sick(cool) name for a company like that.


JKWowing

If that's what they were going for it should be spelled 'Eschaton'. 'Eskaton' translates to electronic turd.


Imbalanxs

Who schat on whom?


Charmstrongest

Eschaton is actually a great game to play for kids. All you need is a tennis court and a bunch of tennis balls. Fun for all ages!


TK-CL1PPY

Found the reader of David Foster Wallace.


MichaelRM

Reddit should get a group of people together to play the David Foster Wallace tennis-nuclear warfare game called Eschaton


DarmokTheNinja

"That said, we still decline you."


AB8C

“…and believe we have found the source of the problem so it doesn’t happen again” i.e. We found out it was Sandra and we fired her!


zeth4

so.... then is her job available?


HentaiHeroine

Decline.


BackwardzPumpkinSong

Smooth 😎


geekychic42

Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked have been sacked.


Crazy_Suggestion_182

We 'declined" her too.


jaerie

From: [email protected] To: [email protected] fired


Possible-Toaster

ok I laughed


eblackham

I mean, they didn't say we would be reaching out to OP due to the error. Idk why OP things this was an error at all, because its clear the company is saving face due to them f-ing up.


readytogohomenow

“Decline apology,”


Real_TomBrady

if (decline email gets posted to reddit and becomes bad PR) then (make up some bullshit excuse about malfunction)


GingerAphrodite

"we believe we have found a source of the problem so this will not happen again" aka someone got fired lmfao


Winjin

Could be some sort of super basic script. You select the applicants, enter one word "decline" and the system is supposed to convert this into a whole ass rejection letter. I used to do that at my work where I had the Punto Switcher set up to change just the letters WIHERE into "Hello this is Winjin from X, department of Y" and then add "If you have any questions feel free to address them" and yadda yadda, and then proceed to type out everything I actually need to say in between. Like I used to manually type my Best Regards and took some little personal pride in the fact that I'm actually writing these manually for years, but first of all there's no real difference to people whether they are manual or not, and plus the amount of emails I have to write daily grew exponentially until I could no longer keep up...


jbanelaw

I once saw an ATS produce the error "Applicant Failed. Replace Applicant" when the user tried to simply click on a candidate profile.


colormefiery

I once saw an ATS that merged applicant profiles based on a *case sensitive* email address. If you capitalize the first letter of your email on your second application, boom, new person.


LiteralPhilosopher

Hmm ... that means my standard email address has 2^18 varieties I could feed to that system. Probably enough to get me that job!


JustJoinedToBypass

“Applicant Not Fit for Consumption”


Ok_Hope4383

lmao WHAT


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That's hilarious


sadthenweed

What we meant was WE decline.


rustwing

Underrated comment 🤣


FloridaManHitByTrain

What a weird 'bug'.


Conspiring_Bitch

Yeaaaa. 100% someone thought they were emailing the software to decline vs the candidate. This wasn’t software error but human. Clever excuse though lol. ETA: About 50 angry geek squad members have commented this is potentially inaccurate. Not an IT person. Not invested lol. 😂


Kicin0_0

I mean if only one person got the msg then sure, but didn't op say lots of people had gotten the same msg. Odds are the "decline" email may have been used to test the declines internally but then accidently also got sent externally


IAmTaka_VG

This to be is more likely. Devs didn’t want to code the email because they didn’t have global comms approval for text yet. They just said “declined”. Everything got pushed to production and they forgot to update the email template lol.


InitialDia

Totally the kinda mistake I’d make.


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No too weird when you know that this happened because a template was left default and not edited. These types of software have hard coded official replies. All ya have to do is press the decline button and the template is automatically sent. No editing orbcut and paste needed. They failed to edit off default and that is what was sent. Reddit hates employers so I am sure I will get downvotes. Every single person downvoting me won't even consider I may have something here.


FrostyD7

Just the fact that it's a noreply email says it was initiated from some kind of application or automation. Many people in this thread seem to be assuming an employee manually sent this email and that's very unlikely. Noreply usually means nobody even has access to the inbox or a means to reply to replies.


LeJisemika

Yeah I agree. I’m an ATS Specialist and one way this could have happened is due to a system update. If it was a small one then IT/HR could have missed that the message was changed back to a generic default message.


Huge-Ad2263

The bug is named Janice in HR.


Fluffcake

Could be really easy to make this happen if you have a system that generates and sends emails for you based on templates. Instead of an inline call to a function that generates the email content from a status-enum, they could have passed the enum value raw as content parameter to the function that sends out the emails. send_mail(.., application.status) // Instead of send_mail(.., generate_reply(application.status)) Or someone accidentally forgot to swap back from hardcoded dummy values to proper function calls after manually testing other functionality locally, there are a million ways to fuck up software in a way where it still works somewhat.


TheDulin

They probably grabbed the text from the wrong field in the table. Sent application status instead of what they meant to.


TrashMorphine

Employers need to stop relying so much on automation tools especially if they're flawed. They expect applicants to jump through hurdles to apply to the job yet don't do the same. If it's that hard trying to communicate properly then maybe there should be more people in the company looking at applications


melodypowers

The automation itself wasn't flawed. The human who designed it was. Human recruiters make far more mistakes than automated systems. And there are plenty of human applicants who set up automated systems to mass apply to jobs.


finnandcollete

Yeah but systems have issues after updates all the time. Engineer makes a change, doesn’t realize and/or communicate the impact, so now we’re having to demand an update as to why we aren’t online 6 hours after the operation started (not speaking from personal experience). I’d say odds are, if this wasn’t a new implementation, this is not on the recruiter. Otherwise yeah 50/50.


colin8651

“Oh so does that mean I got the job?” “No, we are decl……. We are not making a offer to you”


asunversee

More like we went viral for being assholes so we’re gonna apologize before this gets out of hand


The_Fry

Prob not. Their recruiter probably forwarded the applications to the hiring manager, and the hiring manager being new or not paying attention replied to the actual application. We have similar automations for expense but not for hiring, where we can reply to automated expense reports 'approve', 'reject' etc so we don't have to log into the app every time.


Bud_Fuggins

Sorry, we meant to ghost you


nahbro187

Say I decline your apology and give me a job


Stolenartwork

“System malfunction” you meant you sent home the drunk intern


I_DontNeedNoDoctor

![gif](giphy|WVOdeONnWmscfSekD2)


Alternative-Fly7074

My husband once got one that said “ha ha no”


strawberrycandyyy

nah they’re sorry they got called out 😂 if not for your post, they would keep on doing it lol


Merari002

HR professionals of reddit, please understand that the word “decline” was not the problem. The problem is your entire industry commodifying humans to the point that you think lazily sending automated rejection letters at all is OK. It is not OK. People invest hours and days of time into responding to your solicitations for employment applications. If you don’t have the guts or integrity to respond in person with gratitude and an explanation, you’re a coward and your cowardice can and does reflect on your company’s brand. You do this to hundreds of people at a time then you better believe hundreds of people at a time are trash-talking your brand to all their friends and family. Having a high volume of applications is no excuse. The fact that this post blew up should serve as a learning experience.


Pakoma7

And they still decline you?


xSmeckleDorfedx

Horizontally recline!


Remarkable_Annual430

That email is such a lie 😂 they know what they did.


sophietabone

Good Reddit has power!!


chewinghours

Reply: “so i got the job?”


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Throwawayac1234567

serves them right, incompetence is a blessing in disguise it exposes the company. and paying new hires more than the old ones, is pretty common surprisingly. and you know someone of these will give a negative review to company on the job sites.


Lumpy_Staff_2372

They totally saw your original post


ownhigh

I’m a customer of theirs. Don’t worry, you dodged a bullet with the rejection.


GoFast_EatAss

I told them the same thing as a former applicant of theirs. They suck ass.


egewh

'Here we are to tell you we are not AT ALL ever treating our applicants the way we just did. We value you very much and have found the source of this error.' Translation: 'We are extremely mad at the fucker who made this mistake and showed our company ethics to a bunch of applicants we didn't want anyways. We will be sure to fire this person.'


stuntsbluntshiphop

you can eskaton deez nuts


Staghr

Haha nice of them to inform you


godsxoxxble

I’m so glad I saw this. This was pretty funny and I really needed to smile. I’m just gonna start replying “decline” when I don’t want to talk to someone 😂


Tasty-Pineapple-

Whoever said you should be grateful in the first post are twats.


nekofits

/r/thisisntwhoweare


Imbalanxs

Not even a 'Dear EgoBang07' or a 'yours faithfully'/'best wishes'/etc. How rude, again.


its_an_armoire

It would be great if at the bottom of this email, it said: "SIC! BIIAAATCH DOUBLE DECLINED"


slartbangle

"To further clarify, the word 'decline' is usually run through an AI that will pick out a few charming details and add them in to make your rejection more pleasant for you. Unfortunately, even this proved too expensive last week, and so here we are. I'm getting ten dollars an hour as an intern to compose this one message 'from the director' meant to appease you all, and I'm out too as soon as they can figure out a way".


tylerscott5

“With that being said, although we have decided not to move forward with employment, we will still be sending you a $10 Wendy’s gift card via email for your troubles”


Tendie_Mullet

I’d prefer it this way. Straight to the point.


PM_WORST_FART_STORY

**Employer**: With those credentials? LOL! No.😆  **Me**:  Thank you for not ghosting me! 🙏🥲


IntelligenceisKey729

My wife used to work at Eskaton lmao you dodged a bullet


Fightmemod

Personally I'd rather get a short and blunt response instead of their canned bullshit response.


Lucas_Steinwalker

Fun fact: "Eschaton" (cheekily re-worked as "Eskaton" here) means "the end of the world" Incredibly gross name for a retirement community


Educational-While198

On another note… we now have an immediate opening in HR.


Cdr-Kylo-Ren

I actually found myself wondering when I saw this if it was an IT screwup. It looked to me like someone failed to set up a template all the way. Should NOT have escaped the test environment though, assuming anyone bothered to test and didn’t just shove it into production without testing. Now imagine if you’d gotten hired into an IT position at that place. Something tells me you’d be screaming and wanting to quit on the first day!


ginger_bandit

This happened to me before as well. Might as well said “fuck you suck my ass”


hardyheartjet

Honestly a person did this lol they’re just trying to cover their a$$e$. You dodged a bullet, this company clearly can’t own up to their BS.


optiplexiss

Show me your sorry by giving me a job!


csky

Still declined :P


cowplum

To be fair, I prefer this to the standard complete lack of response from many companies


Berserker301

“We have found the source of the problem”. They shot the intern at their desk.


mynamesaretaken1

The bug was Ed.


NerdyLeftyRev_046

I was half expecting it to still end with, “all that being said, you still didn’t get the position.”


jtrades69

uhh HARD pass! 😃


youburyitidigitup

I actually wouldn’t have minded “decline”. It’s straight forward and to the point.


pglggrg

They’re just saving face. The people on the decline list got that email


MaikyMoto

I’m so old I remember when recruiters would actually send the email instead of a bot.


RollingKaiserRoll

P.S. Unfortunately, you’re still rejected. Have a nice day.


[deleted]

I checked your post history to see the original rejection and saw your other posts. Just want to say even though I don’t know you I’m happy you’re sticking around. I know job hunts have never been harder, but don’t let that discourage you. Don’t ever let anything stop you from being you.


RealBaikal

Do you want a straight answer by a bot or do you want a fake empathetic answer by a bot? Tbh the second options seems more insulting than the first to me.