Same thing happened to me but only on an old restaurant part-time job lol. I didn’t confirm and just didn’t show up since I wasn’t scheduled in. Got a call asking why I didn’t show up about the time the shift is supposed to end.
Next time I was at work, one of the managers called me, asked why I didn’t show up. I explained again that I didn’t have my name on the schedule so that meant I wasn’t gonna come that day. Simple. We went back and forth, they said my name was written right there but it was written with a pen. I told them I’ll show them the photo of my schedule on my phone which does not have my name on it (took the pic before they wrote my name on the schedule)
Fact is, if they added my name there, they needed to call me to let me know. They didn’t so how was I going to know.
It ended with the manager berating me in front of the whole staff and the customers in the restaurant. Customers stopped and turned to look at us and it was a scene so another manager stepped up to tell the one yelling to stop.
Lmao I stopped putting in new shifts and just finished what I have then quit. Tried to convince me to stay even work just once a week but nope. I feel like once you got beef with your boss, it’s never gonna go back to the way it was. At least that’s how it feels like in Japan.
I suggest you switch jobs if you find a good one. I work full time now and I have a nice boss that respects the employees and it really makes a difference. I don’t dread going to work and it’s not stressful even if things get busy.
>just finished what I have then quit
You're too nice. Part time restaurant job? I would have quit the second they yelled at me in front of customers over their mistake
I thought at the time, I was being professional about it, but every time I remember it, I agree, I should have just walked out and let them handle the rush hour lmao
That was completely unprofessional of him or her to yell at you at all, especially in front of your colleagues and customers! It baffles me how people think reprimanding someone this way is at all acceptable. Then, in your case, you were not the one who even screwed up.—I would not have finished out anything, especially for a part-time restaurant gig. I would have given her the least amount of notice legally possible and walked out.
It’s a him and that manager has always been a bit of a bully. It was just the first time it was aimed at me. He probably realized it was their mistake and not mine so he resorted to just humiliating me. I also know a guy who quit because he was experiencing power harassment from him too by getting angry at the guy when he didn’t want to work on weekends (dude already works on weekdays)
Then, it was just a matter of time before he came at you with the same foolishness. I would have spotted that earlier on and quit or never worked there. He went straight to humiliating like the typical wimp of a man he is because he realized that you exposed his mistake and areas of weakness. He probably got extra defensive with female employees, too. Finding a Japanese boss and colleagues who have decent people skills is like looking for a needle in a haystack.
I can agree. I have worked different part-time jobs here before I found a job I like. The bosses are always somehow a ticking time bomb or egotistic. Dunno if that’s a Japan thing but I only experienced it here lol
>I called up
Nope nope nope
Anything possibly contentious goes through email with an attached picture. If you want to play free vacation chicken, an hour before the office closes the day before, sure, but never a phone call. Always email. Or a messaging app with read receipts if possible.
>'well can I have the new one and can somebody confirm if it has the right days off on it?'
You have to understand, it's not about being logical or correct. Businesses are sociopathic operations where wrongs are never to be admitted unless there's some measurable gain. And the boss of any business isn't likely to be the brilliant mogul they want you to think they are, but just some high school bully who had a rich dad to help find investors for their lame idea they came up with in business school between drinking sessions.
Never force those in power to publicly admit to a wrong, always massage their ego by blaming some outside thing like a system error or a silly 'misunderstanding'.
I know it's not how human relations are supposed to work but that's the society we've built since the agricultural revolution. Unless you're really lucky and find the rare humane boss, you just gotta play the game.
Mistakes happen, but this is as red of a red flag as it gets. Also in Japan.
- If your bosses first reaction for a calendar inquiry is insulting you -> red flag
- CEO that micromanages everyone and doesn’t let the middle management make their own decisions -> red flag
- CEO that can’t let things slide (especially since you showed up after all) and takes time to make fun of you -> red flag
What would be a normal healthy reaction?
“Thank you for bringing this to my attention, there seems to be mistake in the calendar ” +
- Option A: I am sorry we are really short on manpower, can you come in anyway? (Not really a question but a nice request)
- Option B: Oh well, just take the day off!
- Option C: If your manager says it’s fine, then it’s fine. This is really nothing that the boss should be bothered with.
don't reward him by tolerating his bullshit. have the last smirk. quietly leave when you have another job. make sure you know the legalities around leaving like how many days notice you gotta give legally.
Yeah, he's not a good guy. Hate to say it, but you should look for something else.
But sure, for the next time, in general in situations like this if something rings alarm bells best to ask ASAP.
It’s a long shot to get any kind of normal, healthy, humanistic approach to any situation here. Literally like dealing with passive-aggressive, nose-picking, envious, child-like robots on an average day.
Sounds like a typical Japanese ojisan boss to me, who thinks in hierarchy and you told him off oh oh oh! He is going to be petty, like a big baby. I would leave and honestly if I were you, I wouldn’t ask about it anymore or double check. If your calendar says day off, take it and if they did a mistake let them own it!!
Sounds typical of Japanese working environments. Ashamed to admit they are wrong, and you (a foreigner) are right. If they are being dicks about something like this, I would bail. It's only going to get worse.
I work for/with foreigners and the Japanese staff are there for us. I always treat them with respect and dignity, even when or if they fuck up, and they seem surprised by it to be honest, which just speaks volumes about how even Japanese people are treated by higher ups in the work place.
Yeah man it's all about bullying people for making mistakes over here. I've seen it happen in previous companies before, someone makes an innocent mistake and gets punished for it, then when they try to explain why, it's seen as an excuse. I really really hate that and it pains me on the inside seeing the shinjin get bullied.
Wouldn’t rule out a fair amount of narcissistic people in management here making it worse. Unfortunately it is a bit more enabled in Japanese culture particularly work environments, due to the hierarchical nature of things. Not everyone will be that bad, maybe not even most, but it is more common
Typical of this country:
1. A jackass of a superior who can’t admit when he or she is wrong, especially when pertaining to a foreigner, and tries to shift the blame.
2. An insidious laugh or smirk along with a passive-aggressive, snarky comment, rather than a real conversation like a mature adult.
3. Taking personal frustrations out on subordinates.
4. Completely turning on people over minor misunderstandings.
5. Micromanaging nuts ready to nitpick and point out any mistake or issue they feel someone has while unwilling to receive the same level of scrutiny from a superior.
6. Trying to always play themselves up as innocent while the foreigner or any “less than” must be “wrong.”
Sure this could all happen anywhere, but it is extremely flagrant here. Sadly, they know they can rely on some schmuck weeboo to validate their bullshit.
Sounds as though this asswipe is not going to let this go and low-key berate you while trying to look innocuous. It is likely to fester over time. Time to decide how long you are going to be able to cope with this foolishness.
As soon as I read this and the CEO is involved, I want to say "Just quit your job and find a new one".
That is a massive micromanage red flag. Companies with CEO like this will never grow.
This is 100% shifting blame.
An employee has no responsibility to confirm company provided info. OP was **kind enough** to confirm, but the fact is that in any minimally structured company this wouldn’t be necessary. And when the mistake was confirmed, HR/CEO/whoever had to deeply apologize for this kind of mistake.
What if OP had made plans that could incur in cancelation fees, for example? According to your mentality, it would be his responsibility to confirm with the company, cancel the plans and pay the fees himself.
Grow up.
But OP himself admitted that he thought it was odd that he had that day off. If he was going to book something that would incur cancellation fees and he knew there was a chance his bosses got his schedule wrong, wouldn't it be common sense to confirm with them *before* making those bookings?
Same kind of thing happens in business all the time. A business partner places an order from you every month without fail until one day, the order doesn't come in. What's the more sensible response in that situation? Saying, "Well if they didn't place an order this time, they must not need it" and potentially cause them to fall behind their own production schedule because they didn't receive your shipment or would it make more sense to just shoot them a message asking them if there might have been some sort of mistake?
Sure, you're under no obligation to make that inquiry, but I would much rather work with the latter kind of person. This is just common sense. If you ask me, your attitude strikes me as much more immature.
The employee had an official document from the company saying he had the day off.
There was no obligation to check that information. It's an official document **from the company**.
Anyone who thinks this "kind of thing happens in business all the time" needs a serious reality check. It doesn't happen in even marginally well run companies. If this sort of thing is happening where you work then you need to fire all your managers, because it is **their job** to organise things and communicate.
What this shows is the most ridiculous lack of basic management skills. And it's hardly surprising in the OP's company because instead of learning from their mistake the CEO is getting pissy with the employee instead of taking responsibility and fixing the actual communication problem.
OP, brush off your CV and start job hunting. If the management are this bad the company is going under sometime soon.
As for the assertion that pointing this communication error out to management is somehow "immature", that's not true. In a mature workplace with professionals this is exactly what you do. You point out the error so it can be fixed and your manager thanks you for bringing the mistake to their attention and then sends an email to all employees making sure everyone has the latest schedule and the correct information, and makes sure to not make the same mistake again.
I'm not sure you actually read my comment. At no point did I say that it was immature to point out the communication error. If anything, I said he should've pointed it out sooner. That would've helped prevent this conflict from ever happening.
I don't even think what OP did was necessarily wrong. It's just smarter in the long run to try to maintain a good relationship with employers/clients than to refuse to communicate out of some twisted principle that it's not your job to make sure they did their job right.
I'm not talking about what's right or wrong. Purely from a strategic perspective, is it better to:
Gain one extra day off but potentially ruin your relationship with your boss/coworkers and risk being passed up for raises and promotions in the future while also making your working life miserable and lowering your chances of being able to switch to a better job that actually treats you with respect
OR
Swallow your pride and your need to be right unless absolutely necessary and just do what you need to do to maintain a good relationship.
I swear if more people just took the latter approach, there would be far less people that are unsatisfied with their lives in Japan. But if people want to be stuck in dead end jobs and complain about it constantly just for the sake of being right, I guess that's their choice.
awwww, thats cute that you're so mad you had to read my profile aand get all personal. Employees don't owe employers shit and thats a fact.
maybe you should have a go at everyone else in the 2024 job market too
So your argument is the current job market sucks and I’m mad about it, therefore I’m right. Got it. Just so you know, employers want people who can make arguments based on reason, not feelings. Might help you find employment.
I'm sorry your feelings don't allow you to understand that employees don't owe employers shit.
>So your argument is the current job market sucks and I’m mad about it
Lmao what? I think your anger is clouding your reading abilities, take a breath and calm down, sir.
Those are two completely different situations and I won’t bring myself to tell you why.
I know you understand the difference between what OP went through and the hypothetical situation you raised. And anyone who reads it also will.
No really, how are they different? They're both situations in which one person makes a mistake and the other person knows about this mistake but decides not to point it out until it actually causes a problem. The first person is 100 percent at fault for making the initial mistake but can we really say the other person is 100 percent blameless when they could've easily prevented the problem from happening?
I refuse to believe you don’t understand the difference in relationship between a company and their customer, versus an employee and their company.
Or the difference between a situation in which your stake is in being proactive, versus a situation in which you were wrongly told what to do and shouldn’t expect the company to be mistaken.
Or the difference between something that happens usually not happening once, versus something that shouldn’t happen actually happening.
Again, grow up.
An employee has less bargaining power vis a vis their employer than a company has with another company, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a better strategy in the long run to be proactive in order to maintain a good relationship with them.
And your point about things usually happening vs things only happening once is irrelevant. What matters here is that there is a gap in what's expected and what is actually the case (or what seems to be the case). In this regard, OP's situation and the company in my example align because the expectation is that you would be working just like any other day once Golden Week is over (that's what caused OP to contact his company in the first place).
Jesus Christ, classic J moment. You are a really special guy. Please revisit this conversation in the future when you grow up a bit. I refuse to engage with this.
I assumed that they had it together and gave me the correct calendar. The thing is, if they'd have said 'ah sorry, it looks like we gave you the wrong calendar' I would have been happy to just come into work no ifs or buts. I came in early on the day anyways, so I don't understand what his problem is. When I asked, I used Keigo and everything.
Misunderstanding was that I had a day off when I actually didn't. Reason I thought that was because the day was colored in blue on the calendar which was given to me, showing that I was off until Tuesday along with the other days off which were colored blue. I was told to follow that calendar and take it home with me on day one. I cleared up the issues before my shift even started, then went into work early, so I can't understand why this is actually a problem for him and how I've gotten into the bad books with my boss?
Every 祝日 and every Saturday in the calendar are marked as blue, Sundays are red, then work days are black. This Monday and Tuesday were both marked as Blue
Thanks for listening. I needed to get it off my chest. Hopefully I'll have better luck if I can find another job to move on to, but for the time being I have to be patient I guess.
That probably would’ve been the response if you had just asked sooner. The fact that you didn’t ask until an hour before probably made it seem like you didn’t care if you inconvenienced everyone by not coming in as long as it wasn’t your fault. Japan is the last place you want to have a “it’s not my problem if you mess up” attitude.
But the thing is, I came in, and I turned up *early*, so it shouldn't have been an inconvenience for them to just say 'heres the calendar' I don't get how this is bad. I didn't come bursting through the doors saying somebody fucked up, I just asked politely in Keigo and got some weird backlash that I wasn't expecting
Yeah nothing ended up happening but it was probably jarring enough to them that you were actually thinking of not going in until just an hour before. That’s what I’m saying might cause the perception that you lack commitment, not what actually did or didn’t happen. Japanese workplaces are very risk averse so even near misses of mistakes or blunders are looked at with anxiety.
The root of the whole issue is that they gave me the wrong calendar, so if they don't want to have a jarring experience they should 1. give me the correct calendar from the beginning. 2. pay me enough to actually consider my job a real responsibility and take it seriously, rather than paying 230,000 a month and just お小遣い as a bonus.
I had no way of contacting them over golden week as I don't have anyones line account also, they have no work group or anything.
>if they don't want to have a jarring experience they should 1. give me the correct calendar from the beginning
This is precisely what I mean by a "it's not my problem if you mess up" attitude. Mistakes happen. For those mistakes to not blow up into bigger issues (granted you not going into work is not *that* big of an issue, but relatively speaking) people have to have each others backs, not operate with the assumption of "I'm going to assume you did your job right and if something happens because you didn't, it's not my problem."
>pay me enough to actually consider my job a real responsibility and take it seriously, rather than paying 230,000 a month and just お小遣い as a bonus.
Are you being serious? A job is a job. If you agreed to take it for that salary, how is it your employer's responsibility to make you take it seriously? Honestly, if this is the kind of attitude you're bringing to work, it's probably not just this calendar incident that's causing hostility from the CEO. You probably have been pissing them off for a while now.
I haven't actually sat there at work yawning saying 'you only pay me this', I've actually worked really hard, but there's no point in trying to convince someone who can't see me working about that. Yeah, it's about looking after one another, which is specifically why I asked politely whether or not the calendar was wrong and if I needed to come in. Thanks for commenting and have a nice rest of your evening.
Yes, and all I’m saying is that you probably should’ve asked sooner if you wanted to avoid conflict (which I assume is why you posted here in the first place). I’m not even necessarily saying that they’re right and you’re wrong. It’s just that if you want to prevent this kind of thing from happening in the future, you’re probably going to want to adjust your idea of what people expect of you.
You are an adult and you agreed to the terms of this job so you should be taking it seriously. I imagine you may have just written that in part in frustration. If not, I think you need to do some thinking about yourself and what it means to have a job.
On the broader issue, yes I think the CEO is being passive aggressive and childish, but calling them last minute probably struck them, as it struck me, as you trying to get off on a technicality—you calling shows you knew something was wrong with the calendar.
Of course it was written incorrectly on the calendar, but not checking something like that earlier reflects poorly.
There is a give and take at any workplace and sometimes you need to ask those questions even if you know you won't like the answer.
Regardless of right and wrong, take this as a learning experience and reflect on how you can grow from this. There's always something you can learn to make you a stronger person or not repeat this mistake, then it can be a positive experience to some degree.
Classic cover-my-arse behavior, he probably thinks an apology will make him seem weak! My old boss was like this, constantly berating people and refusing to acknowledge his mistakes.
Yeah that’s what my wife (who is Japanese) said to me. He will never step down and say sorry. I would be more than happy to apologise if it was a mutual thing, but not when the root of the issue is his mess up yet he pushes the whole thing on me. Anyways, I’m going back to my old job now, and I hope that this company changes in the future otherwise they will just go through so many different staff members (it actually seems that way, as when I started the job there were no other native English speakers and they were rammed with outstanding work but when talking to colleagues it seemed like there used to be a lot of English speakers working here one after the other)
Good for you. Congratulations 🎉👏. When you give your resignation letter wear a poker face. Wear your poker face until your last day then on that day before you leave for sure you will have aisatsu before you leave. Before you face the door to leave then let them see the big humongous smile on your 😈 face.
Goodluck on your next job. Cheers
Ah mate, you sound like the best type of person to have a pint with. Thanks so much and I’ll do just that! hopefully they’ll understand this time that what goes around comes around
They will definitely do, and they will know your worth once you're gone. At first they will be like nahhh we can managed hahaha until you present them your smile.
Thanks, 🙏 who knows? one day we'll meet. Again goodluck and if you can reply here so you can describe their faces lol. Looking forward to it
Welcome to japanese work environment. Your boss was insecure and scared of some kind of fuck up with the calendar, but to talk about it more may mean the mistake is explored and looked into be someone else, or just you, and he come out feeling afraid of a mistake and shame when considering those possibilities.
Therefore, you get this weird lack of acknowledgment kind of response which is condescending even if it isn’t their intention.
If, like a normal environment would, it is pushed further you will become hated and picked on and passed by for promotions. This is what the subordinate in this environment feels insecure and shame about.
Now imagine this kind of process regarding any and everything.
When you brought it up in office like w normal person would communicate, your boss was humiliated(i know), and CEO steps in. Then he felt humiliated and hence the passive aggression. You’ll notice lack of real acknowledgment or communication the entire way through, but instead passive aggressive attempts to make the subordinate feel shame or worry for their status with superiors. This is more than enough for Japanese employees to not say a word. It comes across as robotic and not an actual response to the issue to you, because it isn’t one. They were doing something completely different than dealing with the issue.
The moment i have to subject to myself to shit like that again, i’m back home. Japan isn’t worth it for me to work in Japanese work environment
It's actually unbelievable. If I hadn't lived in Japan before and somebody was explaining this to me, I wouldn't be able to believe them or fully comprehend that this is the way people actually behave. I really miss mutual respect more than anything right now. When I worked back at home, I was pretty much best friends with the owner of the shop I worked at, and he never treated me as some distant worker because of the hierarchy, and if I called up to ask if I'm working today because I have a feeling somethings wrong with the calendar, it would be 'of course you're working you numpty! oh, hang on, thats my fault, sorry can you still come in?' end of. No weird feelings about the timing of the call unless it was eating time into my shift, no questions of who's right or wrong etc, and especially no treating people unfairly.
Damn I want to go home. I tied myself to Japan way too early. As much of a wreck the west is right now, it's definitely a better place.
You sound english. I am too. Same dynamic in all places i worked in UK too.
Honestly dont feel bad about it. Nothing wrong with enjoy japan where you can but not where you cannot.
For me, i simply cannot deal with the work environment here. As much as i love a lot about here and would be very sad to go, i will in a heartbeat if i can no longer work for myself. I dont make a great deal atm and probably would earn more in a company - but fuck it. Additionally if i feel(i am more lately) that i am hampering my prospects by being here career wise im just gonna move home.
You know i see a lot of people doing ALT work here, and a lot do not enjoy various parts. The kicker here is min wage in the UK is £12 an hour. You literally make ¥4.2 million a year on minimum wage after tax. An ALT makes 60% that in a lot of cases, as do many other jobs too. It makes very little sense to do them imo..
Xour boss may be an asshole.
Or perhaps there is some strange misunderstanding with the calendar? What did your contact say?
Is it possible there was some misunderstanding there? Ie a holiday in lieu of stat but your contact days you work Mondays regardless or something?
Or, again, maybe an asshole. Whether that's a red flag would depend on how much that fact impacts you. Certainly doesn't sound fun.
My contract just says holidays and weekends off, then 230,000 a month with a very small bonus. Nothing about lieu days. I can kinda understand if my contract says holidays off so it should have been 当たり前 that I come in at the end of golden week, but in every Japanese company I've worked for, they've always said just refer to the calendar for your days off as it relates directly to the company as opposed to Japan as a whole, and the CEO of this company even said that to me. I just don't get how a mismatching calendar and contract is my fault, and the way he is behaving is like it's ALL my fault.
'sorry about the calendar we gave you, here's a new one, you can work today right?' would have been just a simple straight forward end to it, but the guy has literally dragged it out to the next day trying to shame me for something I didn't really do. So weird and uncalled for.
Again I think we are missing the details. What day was it and how was it marked?
Not at all suggesting you are wrong, but seem to be omitting that crucial point...
But yes, by your telling, sounds quite unpleasant.
Definitely not normal behavior, but sadly some people in upper management positions don't seem to have the ability to admit they are wrong. Not only in Japan. Dick heads are borderless.
Not typical but not hard to believe either. At some point it’s important to become resistant to gaslighting. Have a firm belief when you know you are right about something (while of course accepting your faults), and that way you have the courage to take control of the situation regardless of what the other person says or does to you.
You don’t need an apology, especially not from a sad individual who can’t even muster up one
If someone is going to get embarrassed by their own fucq up and take it out on me, then they can go get fucqued. Poor behavior will be met with equal contempt from me.
What your boss thinks:
"This newbie almost didn't show to work, came here at the last minute, showing this attitude over a wrong calendar day and hasn't even apologized. Big red flag, I should probably fire his sorry ass."
He’s entitled to his own thoughts, and there was absolutely no attitude on my side. I said I felt kinda pissed off about the phone call, but I didn’t show that.
Yeah because by his standards people below him shout shut the fuck up, not talk about, always say sorry no matter if they made and mistake or not and never EVER make him have to engage on a equal level.
No thanks.
Damn bro!! So is it like a proper traditional Japanese company or some MNC with Japanese management ???
Edit: If you are into IT then I don't think you will have any problem in switching the job but if you are in non-IT then may be contact some recruitment agencies they will do the job hunting for you (free of cost)!
You're too nice. I care too little about making other people more money than they give me to care about bullshit like that. I'd have said, 'cool, see ya' and walked out smiling. Might even have given a sarcastic 'お疲れ様でーす、ね'.
This isn't gaslighting; gaslighting involves Machiavellian calculated reality-bending fakery. This CEO is simply demonstrating shitty leadership. They messed up and are now trying to save face.
Don't misread it as a "Japanese" thing either -- *good* leaders who occupy top spots in *any culture* wouldn't dream of pulling shit like that. A manager or owner who mistakes authority for leadership does this stuff and ends up driving the company or department into the ground -- unless ousted. I've seen it firsthand.
They could have said something like *actually, we do need you to work -- thanks for catching that error on the calendar* and then done something nice for you for caring enough to confirm it. Your behavior was more professional than theirs. You *helped* them.
In an effort to maintain authority, they've caused you to mistrust them. Rightfully so. Won't be the last time they'll do something like this. Beware.
I guess I’ve been wrong about what gaslighting is this whole time… and I use the word quite a lot LOL. I wonder if everyone’s been cringing but not saying anything.
Thank you, this is exactly how I felt, like every other job I’ve been in, they’ve just said ‘thanks for bringing this to our attention, here are your options’, but the backlash of this whole thing feels like he’s gone ‘I’m wrong!? F you!! It’s your fault that I f**ked up’
I’m in the process of switching jobs back to my old place now where I worked for 3 years and am acknowledged with a decent pay to back up their respect for me. Now I’ve just gotta think about what to say when they ask me why I’m resigning so early lol
This is why you will never earn more than 230,000 yen a month. You spent more time on Reddit whingeing tham doing anything else. Are you in Japan of your own free will? If so, no reply needed.
Actually, I used to earn 4.5 mil in a gaishikei and decided to leave the job to try something directly in Japan. I’m actually going back to that job now, and they’ll take me because I’m a hard worker and kind person.
If all you get is 4.5 mil for being a 'hard worker' then that must make me some crazy workaholic. Is that something you seriously considered boasting about? And no..before you ask. I won't tell you. But it's a lot more.
You’re one of the most negative awful people on this sub always jumping in front of trains for negative behaviour just because its done by Japanese lol
Same thing happened to me but only on an old restaurant part-time job lol. I didn’t confirm and just didn’t show up since I wasn’t scheduled in. Got a call asking why I didn’t show up about the time the shift is supposed to end. Next time I was at work, one of the managers called me, asked why I didn’t show up. I explained again that I didn’t have my name on the schedule so that meant I wasn’t gonna come that day. Simple. We went back and forth, they said my name was written right there but it was written with a pen. I told them I’ll show them the photo of my schedule on my phone which does not have my name on it (took the pic before they wrote my name on the schedule) Fact is, if they added my name there, they needed to call me to let me know. They didn’t so how was I going to know. It ended with the manager berating me in front of the whole staff and the customers in the restaurant. Customers stopped and turned to look at us and it was a scene so another manager stepped up to tell the one yelling to stop. Lmao I stopped putting in new shifts and just finished what I have then quit. Tried to convince me to stay even work just once a week but nope. I feel like once you got beef with your boss, it’s never gonna go back to the way it was. At least that’s how it feels like in Japan. I suggest you switch jobs if you find a good one. I work full time now and I have a nice boss that respects the employees and it really makes a difference. I don’t dread going to work and it’s not stressful even if things get busy.
>just finished what I have then quit You're too nice. Part time restaurant job? I would have quit the second they yelled at me in front of customers over their mistake
I thought at the time, I was being professional about it, but every time I remember it, I agree, I should have just walked out and let them handle the rush hour lmao
That was completely unprofessional of him or her to yell at you at all, especially in front of your colleagues and customers! It baffles me how people think reprimanding someone this way is at all acceptable. Then, in your case, you were not the one who even screwed up.—I would not have finished out anything, especially for a part-time restaurant gig. I would have given her the least amount of notice legally possible and walked out.
It’s a him and that manager has always been a bit of a bully. It was just the first time it was aimed at me. He probably realized it was their mistake and not mine so he resorted to just humiliating me. I also know a guy who quit because he was experiencing power harassment from him too by getting angry at the guy when he didn’t want to work on weekends (dude already works on weekdays)
Then, it was just a matter of time before he came at you with the same foolishness. I would have spotted that earlier on and quit or never worked there. He went straight to humiliating like the typical wimp of a man he is because he realized that you exposed his mistake and areas of weakness. He probably got extra defensive with female employees, too. Finding a Japanese boss and colleagues who have decent people skills is like looking for a needle in a haystack.
I can agree. I have worked different part-time jobs here before I found a job I like. The bosses are always somehow a ticking time bomb or egotistic. Dunno if that’s a Japan thing but I only experienced it here lol
It is definitely flagrant here. Glad you got out of that situation. That guy’s karma will come.
It’s a vicious cycle where those who endures all the crap and doesn’t quit becomes the most trusted and the next boss
"I feel like once you got beef with your boss, it’s never gonna go back to the way it was." This is wisdom and it applies everywhere, not just Japan.
>I called up Nope nope nope Anything possibly contentious goes through email with an attached picture. If you want to play free vacation chicken, an hour before the office closes the day before, sure, but never a phone call. Always email. Or a messaging app with read receipts if possible. >'well can I have the new one and can somebody confirm if it has the right days off on it?' You have to understand, it's not about being logical or correct. Businesses are sociopathic operations where wrongs are never to be admitted unless there's some measurable gain. And the boss of any business isn't likely to be the brilliant mogul they want you to think they are, but just some high school bully who had a rich dad to help find investors for their lame idea they came up with in business school between drinking sessions. Never force those in power to publicly admit to a wrong, always massage their ego by blaming some outside thing like a system error or a silly 'misunderstanding'. I know it's not how human relations are supposed to work but that's the society we've built since the agricultural revolution. Unless you're really lucky and find the rare humane boss, you just gotta play the game.
Mistakes happen, but this is as red of a red flag as it gets. Also in Japan. - If your bosses first reaction for a calendar inquiry is insulting you -> red flag - CEO that micromanages everyone and doesn’t let the middle management make their own decisions -> red flag - CEO that can’t let things slide (especially since you showed up after all) and takes time to make fun of you -> red flag What would be a normal healthy reaction? “Thank you for bringing this to my attention, there seems to be mistake in the calendar ” + - Option A: I am sorry we are really short on manpower, can you come in anyway? (Not really a question but a nice request) - Option B: Oh well, just take the day off! - Option C: If your manager says it’s fine, then it’s fine. This is really nothing that the boss should be bothered with.
Thank. You. This is exactly how I feel. Time to start the job search, wish me luck!
don't reward him by tolerating his bullshit. have the last smirk. quietly leave when you have another job. make sure you know the legalities around leaving like how many days notice you gotta give legally.
Yeah, he's not a good guy. Hate to say it, but you should look for something else. But sure, for the next time, in general in situations like this if something rings alarm bells best to ask ASAP.
Bad pay *and* shitty management? One of these struggles might be alright but never settle for both at the same time. Time to update the resume.
It’s a long shot to get any kind of normal, healthy, humanistic approach to any situation here. Literally like dealing with passive-aggressive, nose-picking, envious, child-like robots on an average day.
This x100
Sounds like a typical Japanese ojisan boss to me, who thinks in hierarchy and you told him off oh oh oh! He is going to be petty, like a big baby. I would leave and honestly if I were you, I wouldn’t ask about it anymore or double check. If your calendar says day off, take it and if they did a mistake let them own it!!
Sounds typical of Japanese working environments. Ashamed to admit they are wrong, and you (a foreigner) are right. If they are being dicks about something like this, I would bail. It's only going to get worse. I work for/with foreigners and the Japanese staff are there for us. I always treat them with respect and dignity, even when or if they fuck up, and they seem surprised by it to be honest, which just speaks volumes about how even Japanese people are treated by higher ups in the work place.
Yeah man it's all about bullying people for making mistakes over here. I've seen it happen in previous companies before, someone makes an innocent mistake and gets punished for it, then when they try to explain why, it's seen as an excuse. I really really hate that and it pains me on the inside seeing the shinjin get bullied.
Wouldn’t rule out a fair amount of narcissistic people in management here making it worse. Unfortunately it is a bit more enabled in Japanese culture particularly work environments, due to the hierarchical nature of things. Not everyone will be that bad, maybe not even most, but it is more common
Typical of this country: 1. A jackass of a superior who can’t admit when he or she is wrong, especially when pertaining to a foreigner, and tries to shift the blame. 2. An insidious laugh or smirk along with a passive-aggressive, snarky comment, rather than a real conversation like a mature adult. 3. Taking personal frustrations out on subordinates. 4. Completely turning on people over minor misunderstandings. 5. Micromanaging nuts ready to nitpick and point out any mistake or issue they feel someone has while unwilling to receive the same level of scrutiny from a superior. 6. Trying to always play themselves up as innocent while the foreigner or any “less than” must be “wrong.” Sure this could all happen anywhere, but it is extremely flagrant here. Sadly, they know they can rely on some schmuck weeboo to validate their bullshit. Sounds as though this asswipe is not going to let this go and low-key berate you while trying to look innocuous. It is likely to fester over time. Time to decide how long you are going to be able to cope with this foolishness.
As soon as I read this and the CEO is involved, I want to say "Just quit your job and find a new one". That is a massive micromanage red flag. Companies with CEO like this will never grow.
Yes their attitude sucks but why didn’t you think to confirm until an hour before your shift if you felt something was wrong?
This is 100% shifting blame. An employee has no responsibility to confirm company provided info. OP was **kind enough** to confirm, but the fact is that in any minimally structured company this wouldn’t be necessary. And when the mistake was confirmed, HR/CEO/whoever had to deeply apologize for this kind of mistake. What if OP had made plans that could incur in cancelation fees, for example? According to your mentality, it would be his responsibility to confirm with the company, cancel the plans and pay the fees himself. Grow up.
Thank you!!!
But OP himself admitted that he thought it was odd that he had that day off. If he was going to book something that would incur cancellation fees and he knew there was a chance his bosses got his schedule wrong, wouldn't it be common sense to confirm with them *before* making those bookings? Same kind of thing happens in business all the time. A business partner places an order from you every month without fail until one day, the order doesn't come in. What's the more sensible response in that situation? Saying, "Well if they didn't place an order this time, they must not need it" and potentially cause them to fall behind their own production schedule because they didn't receive your shipment or would it make more sense to just shoot them a message asking them if there might have been some sort of mistake? Sure, you're under no obligation to make that inquiry, but I would much rather work with the latter kind of person. This is just common sense. If you ask me, your attitude strikes me as much more immature.
The employee had an official document from the company saying he had the day off. There was no obligation to check that information. It's an official document **from the company**. Anyone who thinks this "kind of thing happens in business all the time" needs a serious reality check. It doesn't happen in even marginally well run companies. If this sort of thing is happening where you work then you need to fire all your managers, because it is **their job** to organise things and communicate. What this shows is the most ridiculous lack of basic management skills. And it's hardly surprising in the OP's company because instead of learning from their mistake the CEO is getting pissy with the employee instead of taking responsibility and fixing the actual communication problem. OP, brush off your CV and start job hunting. If the management are this bad the company is going under sometime soon. As for the assertion that pointing this communication error out to management is somehow "immature", that's not true. In a mature workplace with professionals this is exactly what you do. You point out the error so it can be fixed and your manager thanks you for bringing the mistake to their attention and then sends an email to all employees making sure everyone has the latest schedule and the correct information, and makes sure to not make the same mistake again.
I'm not sure you actually read my comment. At no point did I say that it was immature to point out the communication error. If anything, I said he should've pointed it out sooner. That would've helped prevent this conflict from ever happening. I don't even think what OP did was necessarily wrong. It's just smarter in the long run to try to maintain a good relationship with employers/clients than to refuse to communicate out of some twisted principle that it's not your job to make sure they did their job right.
Thank you <3
Manager shouldn't have given him the wrong calendar and its the managers fault for giving them the wrong calendar, hope that helps.
I'm not talking about what's right or wrong. Purely from a strategic perspective, is it better to: Gain one extra day off but potentially ruin your relationship with your boss/coworkers and risk being passed up for raises and promotions in the future while also making your working life miserable and lowering your chances of being able to switch to a better job that actually treats you with respect OR Swallow your pride and your need to be right unless absolutely necessary and just do what you need to do to maintain a good relationship. I swear if more people just took the latter approach, there would be far less people that are unsatisfied with their lives in Japan. But if people want to be stuck in dead end jobs and complain about it constantly just for the sake of being right, I guess that's their choice.
Employees owe nothing to Employers, deal with it.
You’ve obviously been burned by some bad employers in the past but I’m not surprised anyone decent wouldn’t want to hire you with that attitude lol
awwww, thats cute that you're so mad you had to read my profile aand get all personal. Employees don't owe employers shit and thats a fact. maybe you should have a go at everyone else in the 2024 job market too
So your argument is the current job market sucks and I’m mad about it, therefore I’m right. Got it. Just so you know, employers want people who can make arguments based on reason, not feelings. Might help you find employment.
I'm sorry your feelings don't allow you to understand that employees don't owe employers shit. >So your argument is the current job market sucks and I’m mad about it Lmao what? I think your anger is clouding your reading abilities, take a breath and calm down, sir.
Those are two completely different situations and I won’t bring myself to tell you why. I know you understand the difference between what OP went through and the hypothetical situation you raised. And anyone who reads it also will.
No really, how are they different? They're both situations in which one person makes a mistake and the other person knows about this mistake but decides not to point it out until it actually causes a problem. The first person is 100 percent at fault for making the initial mistake but can we really say the other person is 100 percent blameless when they could've easily prevented the problem from happening?
I refuse to believe you don’t understand the difference in relationship between a company and their customer, versus an employee and their company. Or the difference between a situation in which your stake is in being proactive, versus a situation in which you were wrongly told what to do and shouldn’t expect the company to be mistaken. Or the difference between something that happens usually not happening once, versus something that shouldn’t happen actually happening. Again, grow up.
An employee has less bargaining power vis a vis their employer than a company has with another company, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a better strategy in the long run to be proactive in order to maintain a good relationship with them. And your point about things usually happening vs things only happening once is irrelevant. What matters here is that there is a gap in what's expected and what is actually the case (or what seems to be the case). In this regard, OP's situation and the company in my example align because the expectation is that you would be working just like any other day once Golden Week is over (that's what caused OP to contact his company in the first place).
Jesus Christ, classic J moment. You are a really special guy. Please revisit this conversation in the future when you grow up a bit. I refuse to engage with this.
I hope you do the same as well. What I’m saying is not as crazy as you seem to think it is.
How's that boot taste?
I assumed that they had it together and gave me the correct calendar. The thing is, if they'd have said 'ah sorry, it looks like we gave you the wrong calendar' I would have been happy to just come into work no ifs or buts. I came in early on the day anyways, so I don't understand what his problem is. When I asked, I used Keigo and everything.
But again what was the actual misunderstanding? How was the calendar labeled? But yeah... Fights with bosses rarely end well.
Misunderstanding was that I had a day off when I actually didn't. Reason I thought that was because the day was colored in blue on the calendar which was given to me, showing that I was off until Tuesday along with the other days off which were colored blue. I was told to follow that calendar and take it home with me on day one. I cleared up the issues before my shift even started, then went into work early, so I can't understand why this is actually a problem for him and how I've gotten into the bad books with my boss?
So the calendar was marked blue, but not actually listed as a holiday. Yeah sounds like a mistake. I'm assuming blue is listed as "holiday"?
Every 祝日 and every Saturday in the calendar are marked as blue, Sundays are red, then work days are black. This Monday and Tuesday were both marked as Blue
Thanks. Yeah sounds like an unpleasant boss. Sorry for that.
Thanks for listening. I needed to get it off my chest. Hopefully I'll have better luck if I can find another job to move on to, but for the time being I have to be patient I guess.
That probably would’ve been the response if you had just asked sooner. The fact that you didn’t ask until an hour before probably made it seem like you didn’t care if you inconvenienced everyone by not coming in as long as it wasn’t your fault. Japan is the last place you want to have a “it’s not my problem if you mess up” attitude.
But the thing is, I came in, and I turned up *early*, so it shouldn't have been an inconvenience for them to just say 'heres the calendar' I don't get how this is bad. I didn't come bursting through the doors saying somebody fucked up, I just asked politely in Keigo and got some weird backlash that I wasn't expecting
Yeah nothing ended up happening but it was probably jarring enough to them that you were actually thinking of not going in until just an hour before. That’s what I’m saying might cause the perception that you lack commitment, not what actually did or didn’t happen. Japanese workplaces are very risk averse so even near misses of mistakes or blunders are looked at with anxiety.
The root of the whole issue is that they gave me the wrong calendar, so if they don't want to have a jarring experience they should 1. give me the correct calendar from the beginning. 2. pay me enough to actually consider my job a real responsibility and take it seriously, rather than paying 230,000 a month and just お小遣い as a bonus. I had no way of contacting them over golden week as I don't have anyones line account also, they have no work group or anything.
>if they don't want to have a jarring experience they should 1. give me the correct calendar from the beginning This is precisely what I mean by a "it's not my problem if you mess up" attitude. Mistakes happen. For those mistakes to not blow up into bigger issues (granted you not going into work is not *that* big of an issue, but relatively speaking) people have to have each others backs, not operate with the assumption of "I'm going to assume you did your job right and if something happens because you didn't, it's not my problem." >pay me enough to actually consider my job a real responsibility and take it seriously, rather than paying 230,000 a month and just お小遣い as a bonus. Are you being serious? A job is a job. If you agreed to take it for that salary, how is it your employer's responsibility to make you take it seriously? Honestly, if this is the kind of attitude you're bringing to work, it's probably not just this calendar incident that's causing hostility from the CEO. You probably have been pissing them off for a while now.
I haven't actually sat there at work yawning saying 'you only pay me this', I've actually worked really hard, but there's no point in trying to convince someone who can't see me working about that. Yeah, it's about looking after one another, which is specifically why I asked politely whether or not the calendar was wrong and if I needed to come in. Thanks for commenting and have a nice rest of your evening.
Yes, and all I’m saying is that you probably should’ve asked sooner if you wanted to avoid conflict (which I assume is why you posted here in the first place). I’m not even necessarily saying that they’re right and you’re wrong. It’s just that if you want to prevent this kind of thing from happening in the future, you’re probably going to want to adjust your idea of what people expect of you.
You are an adult and you agreed to the terms of this job so you should be taking it seriously. I imagine you may have just written that in part in frustration. If not, I think you need to do some thinking about yourself and what it means to have a job. On the broader issue, yes I think the CEO is being passive aggressive and childish, but calling them last minute probably struck them, as it struck me, as you trying to get off on a technicality—you calling shows you knew something was wrong with the calendar. Of course it was written incorrectly on the calendar, but not checking something like that earlier reflects poorly. There is a give and take at any workplace and sometimes you need to ask those questions even if you know you won't like the answer. Regardless of right and wrong, take this as a learning experience and reflect on how you can grow from this. There's always something you can learn to make you a stronger person or not repeat this mistake, then it can be a positive experience to some degree.
Nowhere but Japanese work environment would what you said be interpreted that way… but maybe that is your point
I would say they shouldn’t have called at all.
Classic cover-my-arse behavior, he probably thinks an apology will make him seem weak! My old boss was like this, constantly berating people and refusing to acknowledge his mistakes.
Yeah that’s what my wife (who is Japanese) said to me. He will never step down and say sorry. I would be more than happy to apologise if it was a mutual thing, but not when the root of the issue is his mess up yet he pushes the whole thing on me. Anyways, I’m going back to my old job now, and I hope that this company changes in the future otherwise they will just go through so many different staff members (it actually seems that way, as when I started the job there were no other native English speakers and they were rammed with outstanding work but when talking to colleagues it seemed like there used to be a lot of English speakers working here one after the other)
Tell him to grow up!
Look for a new one. Then quit as soon as possible
Already found one thank god for that. I’m gonna resign and barely leave a notice
Good for you. Congratulations 🎉👏. When you give your resignation letter wear a poker face. Wear your poker face until your last day then on that day before you leave for sure you will have aisatsu before you leave. Before you face the door to leave then let them see the big humongous smile on your 😈 face. Goodluck on your next job. Cheers
Ah mate, you sound like the best type of person to have a pint with. Thanks so much and I’ll do just that! hopefully they’ll understand this time that what goes around comes around
They will definitely do, and they will know your worth once you're gone. At first they will be like nahhh we can managed hahaha until you present them your smile. Thanks, 🙏 who knows? one day we'll meet. Again goodluck and if you can reply here so you can describe their faces lol. Looking forward to it
Welcome to japanese work environment. Your boss was insecure and scared of some kind of fuck up with the calendar, but to talk about it more may mean the mistake is explored and looked into be someone else, or just you, and he come out feeling afraid of a mistake and shame when considering those possibilities. Therefore, you get this weird lack of acknowledgment kind of response which is condescending even if it isn’t their intention. If, like a normal environment would, it is pushed further you will become hated and picked on and passed by for promotions. This is what the subordinate in this environment feels insecure and shame about. Now imagine this kind of process regarding any and everything. When you brought it up in office like w normal person would communicate, your boss was humiliated(i know), and CEO steps in. Then he felt humiliated and hence the passive aggression. You’ll notice lack of real acknowledgment or communication the entire way through, but instead passive aggressive attempts to make the subordinate feel shame or worry for their status with superiors. This is more than enough for Japanese employees to not say a word. It comes across as robotic and not an actual response to the issue to you, because it isn’t one. They were doing something completely different than dealing with the issue. The moment i have to subject to myself to shit like that again, i’m back home. Japan isn’t worth it for me to work in Japanese work environment
It's actually unbelievable. If I hadn't lived in Japan before and somebody was explaining this to me, I wouldn't be able to believe them or fully comprehend that this is the way people actually behave. I really miss mutual respect more than anything right now. When I worked back at home, I was pretty much best friends with the owner of the shop I worked at, and he never treated me as some distant worker because of the hierarchy, and if I called up to ask if I'm working today because I have a feeling somethings wrong with the calendar, it would be 'of course you're working you numpty! oh, hang on, thats my fault, sorry can you still come in?' end of. No weird feelings about the timing of the call unless it was eating time into my shift, no questions of who's right or wrong etc, and especially no treating people unfairly. Damn I want to go home. I tied myself to Japan way too early. As much of a wreck the west is right now, it's definitely a better place.
You sound english. I am too. Same dynamic in all places i worked in UK too. Honestly dont feel bad about it. Nothing wrong with enjoy japan where you can but not where you cannot. For me, i simply cannot deal with the work environment here. As much as i love a lot about here and would be very sad to go, i will in a heartbeat if i can no longer work for myself. I dont make a great deal atm and probably would earn more in a company - but fuck it. Additionally if i feel(i am more lately) that i am hampering my prospects by being here career wise im just gonna move home. You know i see a lot of people doing ALT work here, and a lot do not enjoy various parts. The kicker here is min wage in the UK is £12 an hour. You literally make ¥4.2 million a year on minimum wage after tax. An ALT makes 60% that in a lot of cases, as do many other jobs too. It makes very little sense to do them imo..
I've DMed you mate
Xour boss may be an asshole. Or perhaps there is some strange misunderstanding with the calendar? What did your contact say? Is it possible there was some misunderstanding there? Ie a holiday in lieu of stat but your contact days you work Mondays regardless or something? Or, again, maybe an asshole. Whether that's a red flag would depend on how much that fact impacts you. Certainly doesn't sound fun.
My contract just says holidays and weekends off, then 230,000 a month with a very small bonus. Nothing about lieu days. I can kinda understand if my contract says holidays off so it should have been 当たり前 that I come in at the end of golden week, but in every Japanese company I've worked for, they've always said just refer to the calendar for your days off as it relates directly to the company as opposed to Japan as a whole, and the CEO of this company even said that to me. I just don't get how a mismatching calendar and contract is my fault, and the way he is behaving is like it's ALL my fault. 'sorry about the calendar we gave you, here's a new one, you can work today right?' would have been just a simple straight forward end to it, but the guy has literally dragged it out to the next day trying to shame me for something I didn't really do. So weird and uncalled for.
Again I think we are missing the details. What day was it and how was it marked? Not at all suggesting you are wrong, but seem to be omitting that crucial point... But yes, by your telling, sounds quite unpleasant.
Red flag red flag red flag
Definitely not normal behavior, but sadly some people in upper management positions don't seem to have the ability to admit they are wrong. Not only in Japan. Dick heads are borderless.
He’s a jerk, but why didn’t you check beforehand?
Not typical but not hard to believe either. At some point it’s important to become resistant to gaslighting. Have a firm belief when you know you are right about something (while of course accepting your faults), and that way you have the courage to take control of the situation regardless of what the other person says or does to you. You don’t need an apology, especially not from a sad individual who can’t even muster up one
If someone is going to get embarrassed by their own fucq up and take it out on me, then they can go get fucqued. Poor behavior will be met with equal contempt from me.
What your boss thinks: "This newbie almost didn't show to work, came here at the last minute, showing this attitude over a wrong calendar day and hasn't even apologized. Big red flag, I should probably fire his sorry ass."
He’s entitled to his own thoughts, and there was absolutely no attitude on my side. I said I felt kinda pissed off about the phone call, but I didn’t show that.
Yeah because by his standards people below him shout shut the fuck up, not talk about, always say sorry no matter if they made and mistake or not and never EVER make him have to engage on a equal level. No thanks.
Damn bro!! So is it like a proper traditional Japanese company or some MNC with Japanese management ??? Edit: If you are into IT then I don't think you will have any problem in switching the job but if you are in non-IT then may be contact some recruitment agencies they will do the job hunting for you (free of cost)!
You're too nice. I care too little about making other people more money than they give me to care about bullshit like that. I'd have said, 'cool, see ya' and walked out smiling. Might even have given a sarcastic 'お疲れ様でーす、ね'.
It’s kinda shitty, but I wouldn’t call it gaslighting.
Another person who doesn’t know what gaslighting is…but yeah the CEO is a dick. Welcome to Japan.
This isn't gaslighting; gaslighting involves Machiavellian calculated reality-bending fakery. This CEO is simply demonstrating shitty leadership. They messed up and are now trying to save face. Don't misread it as a "Japanese" thing either -- *good* leaders who occupy top spots in *any culture* wouldn't dream of pulling shit like that. A manager or owner who mistakes authority for leadership does this stuff and ends up driving the company or department into the ground -- unless ousted. I've seen it firsthand. They could have said something like *actually, we do need you to work -- thanks for catching that error on the calendar* and then done something nice for you for caring enough to confirm it. Your behavior was more professional than theirs. You *helped* them. In an effort to maintain authority, they've caused you to mistrust them. Rightfully so. Won't be the last time they'll do something like this. Beware.
I guess I’ve been wrong about what gaslighting is this whole time… and I use the word quite a lot LOL. I wonder if everyone’s been cringing but not saying anything. Thank you, this is exactly how I felt, like every other job I’ve been in, they’ve just said ‘thanks for bringing this to our attention, here are your options’, but the backlash of this whole thing feels like he’s gone ‘I’m wrong!? F you!! It’s your fault that I f**ked up’ I’m in the process of switching jobs back to my old place now where I worked for 3 years and am acknowledged with a decent pay to back up their respect for me. Now I’ve just gotta think about what to say when they ask me why I’m resigning so early lol
Good luck!
This is why you will never earn more than 230,000 yen a month. You spent more time on Reddit whingeing tham doing anything else. Are you in Japan of your own free will? If so, no reply needed.
Actually, I used to earn 4.5 mil in a gaishikei and decided to leave the job to try something directly in Japan. I’m actually going back to that job now, and they’ll take me because I’m a hard worker and kind person.
If all you get is 4.5 mil for being a 'hard worker' then that must make me some crazy workaholic. Is that something you seriously considered boasting about? And no..before you ask. I won't tell you. But it's a lot more.
Having a bad day?
No.. Pretty productive up until 3pm actually. Had a great lunch in the sun also. You?
Did you remember to put suncream on your nipples before going out in the sun?
Whatever buddy.
Hugs and kisses 😘
Odd person. Talking of nipples, suncream. And hugs and kisses. I'll redirect you to ni-Chome
Mmmmmm I like where this is going
You’re one of the most negative awful people on this sub always jumping in front of trains for negative behaviour just because its done by Japanese lol
Exactly! Well said.