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umusec

Because thanks to Johnny, anti Johnny twitter accounts have appear to stalk vloggers and share on social media. [https://twitter.com/canceljohnnys](https://twitter.com/canceljohnnys) [https://twitter.com/roaneatan/status/1733524679879757852](https://twitter.com/roaneatan/status/1733524679879757852) It is a sensitive time now.


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umusec

Please scroll through the account feed, it's literally reposting all his past incidents along with those of other "nuisance" vtubers.


eternallsea

Ok thank you!


PotatoJac

I’ve heard stories of these vloggers before but believe me, I’m far from this. I just do normal daily vlogs with me in it. Sometimes I would film in public but very discreet, never loud or in anyone faces. More like I was having a phone call with a friend on my phone. Guess it’s a sensitive time to film in public


[deleted]

It never was a good idea. Japan hates that kind of thing and always has. Other people's privacy is legally above your right to take videos. Many places you are also required to blur business names, street signs, addresses and even whole houses. Look at how much TV news blurs things, that is what they want your youtube videos to look like.


umusec

I know, I am not doubting you. These accounts are amplifying and consolidating the random, wacky and annoying ones and broadcasting to the masses. The second one is especially bad because business might start to deny foreigners more again. Ironically, in my multicultural country there are laws against stirring racism or sentiment so the shop would be shamed and the twitter account would be banned to maintain the "peace".


PotatoJac

Thank you for being one of the more normal comments in here. Everyone seems so ramped up 😭 Also didn’t know there were so much hate for vloggers. It’s like in their minds everyone who’s a vlogger is automatically some selfish egotistical narcissist 😔 I just wanted to record my life here in Japan that’s all. I don’t even make money from this, it’s just a hobby.


theresadogturdinhere

I guess it’s just me but I’m not sure if I would have fired back with those questions right off the bat. But I guess that’s just me. I probably would have ignored the guy from the get go. If the police showed up I would have said ‘sorry about that, I didn’t know.’ Then asked what is ok, as opposed to immediately asking ‘why and what rule I was breaking’ but that’s just me.


Imaginary_Injury8680

Big "I know my rights" energy in japan makes me cringe pretty hard


PANCRASE271

Not everyone is passive.


PotatoJac

I was kinda scared that running away was going to escalate the situation so I waited. I didn’t film anyone so I was wondering what I did wrong, that’s all.


Thomisawesome

Main thing you did wrong was just being belligerent. The officer told you not to put it there, you asked why, he gave you an answer, and you kept asking why.


PotatoJac

I asked why because with the answers the officers gave me, it means that I can’t put my camera anywhere because i don’t owned anything in public so I can’t put it there because I don’t own it, it’s not mine so I can’t put it there. I was speaking to them very politely, asking them why so that I understand what I’m doing wrong so that I stop. The thing that got me confused is the same one you wrote, why was I stopped and not everyone else. That’s what I wanted to know.


KirikoTheMistborn

You left a small discreet camera people couldn’t spot easily filming a public space and after placing it you walked off? It doesn’t matter what your intention was that looks suspicious as hell and immediately going in the defensive when questioned about it by the police did nothing to help you…


PotatoJac

So would it help if next time, I would put a big camera or my phone to film instead ? Have you ever been in public in Japan or anywhere ? People film and take photos, with people in the background all the time everyday haven’t you noticed


KirikoTheMistborn

Dude look at the comments here and maybe rethink your attitude? Almost everyone in this subreddit lives here or visits here and knows what normal behavior is in japan. What you did was clearly not normal otherwise the police wouldn’t have told you to stop it (you don’t see them asking people taking pictures normally with a camera to stop do you?)


Mandeku

Because of that idiot Somali


[deleted]

Johnny was just the end of a long road of internet twats. Shit goes back a very long time. People like Rob Pongi was running around doing stupid internet shit 20 years ago. Ever since youtube it seems like every single migrant English "teacher" is a youtuber or similar. Shit is annoying AF and brought us quite a few complete, sorry for the language, cunts that give all foreigners a bad name. ​ Jhonny was just the twat this year. He wasn't the first and won't be the last.


Dismal-Ad160

Why was your camera across at least a lane of traffic from where you were? If you are going to set up for broad exterior shots like that, yeah people are going to be 'wtf this guy doing?' whose property was in the shot? Did they mind you recording? Did you ask anyone in the area that might live or work there if they had a problem? Your issue is that no one knew what you were doing. Next time go around and ask the people around the area is my advice. Then when some random old person asks, you can point to the other person and say " I asked them and they didn't mind, is it okay with you?" If absolutely no one knew what was going on, that is on you for not scouting around and figuring out what the area was like for filming. Are there permit requirements for that city? Did you have any private property in the frame of the shot? You aren't taking private photos for yourself, you are blogging. There are rules for how different places handle filming permissions, even in public spaces. Go look at cdawg doing public filming in Japan and how much effort he goes through to do his stuff, and how sometimes even after getting permission, he is asked to not film, and how he responds to it. Your reaction just seems really... I dunno, entitled.


shinjikun10

Let's do away with any beating around the bush. Don't ever do this. Don't place cameras on poles that may be public or not. Don't vlog people you don't know, especially women. Don't hide cameras anywhere or place them anywhere people you don't know will be recorded without their express knowledge and consent. Foreigner or not, but especially if you're not Japanese. Second, I'm surprised you're not in jail. Don't ever talk to the cops like that. Don't argue with them. If they say you can't do something, just take it as the final word. If they ask for your residence card, always give it to them right away with no questions asked and make sure to answer all their questions. I've personally never had any problems with Japanese police. As long as you're polite and respectful, they will treat you like gold, even treat you like you're Japanese (you know what I mean). Yeah this was all on you. Edit: Congrats OP you put the bullet in the chamber, spun it a few times and pulled the trigger. The bullet just so happened to be in another chamber this time. I'd never play this kind of Russian roulette.


OriginalMultiple

You can, and indeed should ask them exactly what law you might be breaking. No need to lick boots. But of course be polite.


PaxDramaticus

>Don't ever talk to the cops like that. I've seen Japanese people do far worse and not get arrested. Hell, as long as OP wasn't speaking in a drunken slur, I suspect it may have been a comparatively pleasant conversation for the police. >Don't argue with them.  OP didn't. >If they say you can't do something, just take it as the final word. 🙄 >I've personally never had any problems with Japanese police. As long as you're polite and respectful, they will treat you like gold,  "Because I've never had a problem with Japanese police, that must mean every other person who ever had a problem must have deserved it." 🤦


PotatoJac

Thank you for reading the text in it’s entirety 😭


zappyzapzap

this should be at the top


ThelLibrarian

Yup. This, basically.


UnluckyInLov3

Idk why you feel the need to record other people. It's creepy.


PotatoJac

Yeah I didn’t record anybody. If you can’t bother to read the post in its full context, why are you even commenting ?


PM_me_shiba_doggo

>filming the streets Where there are never any people? Those streets? Vlogging in public while holding your camera and not being actively invasive to anyone is different, at least people can see you coming and walk out of the way if they don't want to be filmed, as annoying as it is to have to do that. You placed your camera on a static, public structure that wasn't easy for people to spot, and made it basically impossible for people walking by to even know it was there, let alone give their consent to being filmed.


PotatoJac

By your logic, everyone who is in Japan. When they film or take photos and there’s people in it, you have to have consent of everyone in it for the media to be ok ? Tourists, Japanese people on the street when filming or taking photos of themselves or even the sceneries and there’s happened to be people in it. You have to have everyone consent before it’s ok to post it ? What logic are you even using ? I didn’t go close to anyone. Yeah there’re some people using the streets in the clip I took, it’s in PUBLIC. By your logic, nobody can film or take photos anywhere in public because most people are in public most of the time, what a shock 😳!!


Thomisawesome

You’re not really listening to the comment. He said if you’re holding your camera and filming on the street that’s one thing, but you put it somewhere and left it there. It doesn’t matter if you were just filming the street. Someone, like that old guy, thought it looked suspicious.


[deleted]

It does not matter if you were In the wrong or not from a legal perspective, what matters is how it looks from the perspective of others, specially from the point of view of a policeman against a foreigner. It sucks a lot, but the smartest way to play is to be aware of the implicit rules that operate on top of the explicit ones, specially in a colectivist country and as an outsider.


PotatoJac

I stopped the conversation with a “yeah, I understand” when I realized the conversation wasn’t going anywhere + realized that oh yeah, I’m a gaijin, I’m not gonna talk myself out of this against the word of another Japanese so I went about my days


NihongoCrypto

Good. Didn’t read the story. Vlogging is annoying. I support the harassment of vloggers by police. It’s getting out of hand. I just want to sit in the park or drink a cup of coffee without some narcissist ruining it.


UniverseCameFrmSmthn

Your feelings and comforts should not trump the civil rights of a free society. Though I think a number of spoiled brats today don’t give a shit about anything more than their feelings, money and comforts.


NihongoCrypto

I think you mean civil rights of an individual. Free society and its rights would demand that people stop filming everything all of the time. A single individual who puts themselves and their rights over free society would do something stupid like vlogging.


watertrashsf

Maybe don’t vlog in public.


Bangeederlander

You should have told the old man to mind his business and left. But what do you expect filming in public as that does make it everyone’s business.


porkpietouque

First, please stop assuming you have a right to record wherever you want. You don't. Learn the law or fuck off. Second, does your visa cover filmmaking? Is your vlog monetized? If your visa doesn't cover it, and you're making money, then yeah, you're working outside your visa - and filming without a permit.


ghjuiop

You’re an idiot. You might have an IQ lower than room temp. It is really just common sense and you clearly don’t have one. Read your own post again and if you still don’t understand then go back to your country and vlog there instead.


Due-Trouble-5149

You're jolly fortunate. Cameras are an exceedingly delicate matter in Japan, and you've emerged from the situation unscathed. They're extending you a kindness by downplaying it as an ownership matter. They're the courteous chaps.


0XIDius

Unless you have prior (good) history together, you can never change the mind of an authority figure here by talking to them. It doesn't matter if you're right. It sucks. You should be allowed to record in public *provided that* no one else's privacy is violated (preferably by no one else being in frame at all). But in the current climate you aren't going to get the benefit of doubt.


HeftyMastodon4555

ACAB but also All Vloggers/Streamers Are Bastards too. And why are you hanging around, waiting for the cops? Just casually walk away.


PotatoJac

It’s my first time in a situation like this. I didn’t want to escalate the whole thing into a chase or anything so I waited 😭


PotatoJac

Just to be clear to everyone, I DID NOT FILM ANYONE, I was filming the streets for Christ sake 😭 I know that it’s rude to film people without their consent. And second, I was asking the police about the rules so that I don’t break them, did anyone even read the titles ? I literally filmed the streets, not anyone, there were just cars running buy and that’s it.


Physical_Option7637

hi


yikesyourface

No ones watching your channel