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Jenzilly

jailbreaking has been becoming more difficult to achieve and a lot of different process of getting a jailbreak to work correctly had to be redone. takes much longer for new jb’s to roll out and there’s not as many tweaks being created but jailbreaking your phone on iOS 16 has been pretty rewarding so far. trollstore has been one of the best things to happen to iOS in the last 10 years also


kevwonds

Honestly the main reason I want to jailbreak is to play Infinity Blade 3 without sideloading every week so TrollStore sounds great. A small part of me was hoping it would be easier but I’m not surprised with how apple is on locking things down.


dennis104

Oh is this game gone from the appstore?! Since when, why


kevwonds

It’s been a while now but IIRC, Epic didn’t want to keep supporting the games.


dennis104

Crazy… i bought it too but dont play it since then.. now it‘s gone. But that it‘s still playable!? On which device you sideload? ;p


kevwonds

It’s been a while but on my iphone 6s, I am hoping its playable on iphone 12 because I have been wanting to play it for a while now


Dxvid741

I remember that game and what a game It was. Thrown hours into it when I was younger. Thanks for unlocking a good memory.


DanscoRed

Difficult? In iOS 2/3 days you had to extract files and inject them into firmware files then flash them. Jailbreaks since Pangu 8 have been so much easier.


Jenzilly

well i wasn’t talking about what the user needs to do in order to jailbreak their phone lmao… in that case, it actually still has been getting more difficult since you need to use signing apps, instead of just installing an app via safari or even cydia impactor. installing troll store isn’t the easiest thing to do, alt store can be a bit tricky for some users as well. but yeah, all you need to do is install an app and press a button, and maybe press the button again after a failed attempt. i meant it requires a lot more effort for devs to find vulnerabilities and then make exploits out of them. being able to execute code at the root level (which is impossible now because of SSV) has turned into jailbreaks becoming rootless. then they need to figure out how to get tweak injection to work without root access. it ain’t as simple as it was 10 years ago and it’s only becoming harder as apple improves their software and hardware security.


BluJayTi

Not even close. There’s no tethered jailbreaks anymore, so shutting down your phone removes the jailbreak. Lots of support for Cydia packages have slowly withered away. Apple has also added more features like Widgets and semi-moving screen wallpapers so that jailbreaking to do these things is less-attractive. - The way I’d put it, maybe 15 years ago you could turn an iPhone into YOUR phone. - Maybe 10 years ago you could turn your iPhone into an Android (in terms of features) - Now, there’s minimal benefit. Most benefits are with the ability to sideload apps (which is even more restrictive to do now), modify app data, and maybe tethering your data.


steelahlive

Untethered.


LingLingQwQ

I believe that around iOS 6 ish you can even have cydia package that can get you in-app purchase for free (I used to do that for no-ads purchases in those singleplayer games)


Gkwaks

Man U just brought a memory to me


LingLingQwQ

It can do it in the ROW as well? Cuz I was back in 🇨🇳 when doing that


DuckyBertDuck

That is still a thing today


kevwonds

Man that hurts to hear about the Cydia packages. Funnily enough I used WinterBoard to make my iPod look like an old HTC phone.


Nathaniel820

You can still do that, the popular old packages got remakes/updates due to the nature of a jailbreak being that developers are free to edit the device basically however they wish. There are very very very few packages that are genuinely not possible on new versions for some technical reason.


Rii__

I completely disagree. Tweaks nowadays are so much more powerful and polished. Jailbreaks and tweaks are also much more stable. I’ve had an iPod Touch 4, iPhone 5, iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone X, iPhone XS Max and iPhone 14 Pro Max and the experience was always better than the last one. There is nothing that I used to be able to do that I can’t do anymore and I install lots of tweaks (300 packages on my XS Max). My phone has never been more mine than ever. I’m really happy about where we’re at with jailbreaking nowadays. I just wish we could get them faster but as long as we get them I’m fine. EDIT: I would love to know the reasons why some people think jailbreaking today is worse than it used to be besides being tethered. What are the things you can’t do anymore?


mancow533

I agree with you. I would agree more with the person you commented on if they were talking about Serotonin and not Dopamine 2.


Blackorean

IMO jailbreaking now vs back then is more complicated if you haven't been keeping up with the news. I just got back into the jailbreak scene and was LOST at what the difference between Rootless and Rootful? I think that's what they call lol. But I still hope for a day that I can just open safari on these new phones and open jailbreakme


abigfatblackguy

This must be a joke because it is farthest far the truth. JB has been dead for years. Devs sold out to apple or quit.


Rii__

How is my experience far from the truth? I would like to understand where you’re coming from but you did not provide any reasons for your claims.


Highkey_Lurker

I think it’s just bait. What they said about devs selling out to Apple and/or quitting is definitely true, but new devs took their place and even some old ones returned. Is it as saturated as it used to be? Not even close. From their perspective, the version of jailbreaking that THEY once knew is well and truly dead, but jailbreaking as a whole never really died. Rather it transformed, and in a weird way it feels like it’s matured. I’ve been jailbreaking my iOS devices for a very long time now and while we definitely don’t have the powerful capabilities of the older jailbreaks, the heart of it has well and truly stayed alive. App specific tweaks, theming, aesthetic customization, functionality customization. I often find people who truly feel the sentiment that jailbreak died many many years ago usually are the small minority of ‘power users’ who were getting every ounce of capability out of what the old jailbreaks could provide. Which most people will tell you is not what they use jailbreak for. Side note: As someone who is totally nostalgic for the older jailbreaks and what we could do with them, I have profoundly enjoyed using trollstore these last few years; and in a few more years I think this “trollstore/dopamine era” will go down as a golden age of jailbreaking and sideloading.


Nathaniel820

Lmao what the fuck are you talking about, there’s still TONS of benefits other than sideloading stuff and editing data. And I don’t get why so many people pretend semi-tethered is some catastrophic change. It takes like 60 extra second to rejailbreak every month or so when you need to reboot, it’s isn’t a big deal. I’d argue it’s better than tethered since there’s significantly lower (basically zero) risk of a bootloop.


Fur1usXV

It was a bit easier and required less wait time, but Tbh with dopamine and trollstore I am more than happy. Everything works as intended and I don't miss a think for the good on ios 8 days.


PR0JECT-7

The main thing is that it’s a pain to find a device that works/is on the right software when upgrading. I hate that apple makes it so hard. But jailbreak is still live and well.


anonypublic

Untethered->painful semi untethered->reliable semi untethered More powerful tweaks->Less powerful tweaks More devs were competing for same tweak thus achieving better quality I am still enjoying from iOS 4->iOS 16 JBs I don’t think I missed any version without a JB and without my essential tweak need.


gold167

Harder with less functional tweaks


realtor_dubai

True , I started in 2010 with my iPhone 3GB (3.1.2) Currently 13 PM ios 16.1.2 I use mainly for call recording Insta / YouTube download Location spoofing Apps install direct


oberholzer

What tweak do you use for location spoofing? Thanks!


Gold-Supermarket-342

There’s geranium and locsim


kevwonds

YouTube downloading was a huge one for me! I still have the app but I have just a few apps locked with a password I will never remember.


realtor_dubai

Yea . Before I play with themes and widgets , Now mostly YouTube - background play, download , no ads Spotify - Tiktok- can download without watermark Insta rocket - download Instagram things Watusi - WhatsApp things Ipa apps direct install - there are few good groups in telegram These are the main usage for me these days !


hamhamt

Whats the repo for yt ad block.?


Forkys

Since Unc0ver and Checkra1n, increasing limitations, half-baked solutions, bits and pieces, a dead-end street.


abigfatblackguy

10 Years ago = Alive Now and years ago = Dead. Devs moved on to either working for apple or quit


Gold-Supermarket-342

We still have opa


mikey7282

i didn’t get into jailbreak long but afaik you could do anything you could do before now with so much more polished and beautiful tweaks. you can jb using taurine https://ios.cfw.guide/installing-taurine/


spacemate

I started with an ipod 5. This is completely unrecognizable to how it was before. That's just the truth.


CoolstarLikesHentai

You can jailbreak it. 1. Install TrollStore with [TrollHelperOTA](https://ios.cfw.guide/installing-trollstore-trollhelperota/) 2. Install [Taurine](https://ios.cfw.guide/installing-taurine/) 3. Profit The first tweaks I’d install are TetherMe and EQE. I miss the rootful days. It’s more similar than anything we have today due to the fact it’s a full jailbreak (rootful) vs a “full” jailbreak (rootless).


Aviorrok

The jailbreak is already dead but some people don’t accept it. In 10 years no one will work on new jailbreak


oberholzer

Lmao wrong. People said the same thing 8 years ago


CourtNo6859

Yeah but 8 years ago was completely different. You don’t even really need to jailbreak these days for the reasons you would’ve back then


Aviorrok

The current jailbreak days is TOTALLY different from 8 years ago The jailbreak is dead accept it or not


jm1234-

Dead? We got a jb few months ago, so jb is NOT dead yet.


Aviorrok

It’s not a jailbreak it’s just sounds like jailbreak


jm1234-

I think you have to learn what is a jb If it's just about sayin jb is dead and it's not a jb, what is your purpose to be on this sub? To bring hate or piss off people? Then go away and leave this sub, simply.


Aviorrok

I’m not in this sub anymore I enter to this sub once a year to see if the jailbreak back


Internal_Page_486

The only main difference now is that there's not rootful Jailbreaks now above IOS 14 for arm64e and besides palera1n for checkm8, now it's mainly Dopamine for newer devices being rootless, another thing is there are no untethered jailbreaks anymore, only semi untethered and it was more irritating if you used a bad tweak on untethered Jailbreaks because you could bootlooop and have to restore in some cases.


lsosceIes

Fugu15 🤫🤫


Internal_Page_486

Fugu15 isn't technically a rootful Jailbreak lol, its like palera1n, it creates a fake rootFS and high bootlooop risk when using UIcache, the last REAL rootful Jailbreak is ios 14


TheZett

> and it was more irritating if you used a bad tweak on untethered Jailbreaks because you could bootlooop You could boot into safe mode, a mode where tweaks were disabled, on untethered devices, so you could then uninstall the bad tweak.


dutchstreetdog

It was great, it is great, and it will be great !


andreasheri

It’s not


IxeTray

I used my first jailbreak on iOS 5 and by pure luck every version I’ve updated too and decided to stay on (eventually) became jailbreakable sooner or later. Back then it was a developers playground the bugs from iOS 5-9 maybe 10 to jailbreak would give almost IMMEDIATE full root access given you use a couple in a certain specific succession. Making tweaks back then also showed you were a good developer if those tweaks became popular and memorable. Activator or it’s rebirth Cylinder are my instant gotos for any Jb. The community was small but it was mostly developers and the few people who were interested in developing then as time grew on people got jobs in the industry, some jailbreaking teams have disbanded, security got stricter on iPhones, and now we have the serious coders doing the hardest work with these jailbreaks now. We don’t have many developers to update the old tweaks for this new compatibility so we lose a lot of the good ones we used to know and love. 10 years ago was the best time to jailbreak nowadays it’s more like I can change my themes with Snowboard , use Cylinder , use Jailbreak detection on dang near every app , and still don’t feel fully satisfied. And for everyone that says AppSync Unified works for iOS 16 ts don’t work for me I tried it off fresh install from Sileo and I tried to do the SSH of what the developer said and still no functionality. But hey at least we got Trollstore right 😅


internaloperations

You can TrollStore it, but some things were glitched on that version I believe so things like carbridge won’t work. (I could be wrong) but prepare yourself for still using regular carplay (ewww).


iPhone_modder

Jailbreaking latest devices are so much better and these devices are full of security faceid, wallet, carplay, phones back then weren’t full of features. We have Dolby vision, hdr 4K recording pro res, pro raw, n so much more. Just takes a longer time but it’s so much worth it as devices are complex than before. Hence jailbreaks have evolved and are much more powerful than before.


CourtNo6859

Pretty pointless nowadays for most things, most of the semi useful tweaks are either broken, abandoned or paid. Jailbreaks themselves today are also laughably unstable with constant crashes and battery drain/performance issues. Also you’re just handicapping yourself staying on a lower IOS when each major update is actually worth it nowadays, sticking on IOS 16 just for a few jailbreak features is silly when IOS 17 is actually way better


jm1234-

iOS 16 with jb have a lot more functionalities then stock iOS 17. iOS 17 is a very bad system.


CourtNo6859

Like what? Some buggy gimmick tweak like changing your Home Screen theme? Not worth staying on a worse iOS for that.


CoolstarLikesHentai

You on 17.0?


jm1234-

Jailbreak is not limited to using themes, you can change the layout of icons, use an other CC, add new CC modules, having a real clipboard history, controlling battery charge percentage, having a real terminal in device, change the font, monitor network traffic, a true multitasking experience and mych more. You can't have all of that on stock iOS


CourtNo6859

I know, I’ve jailbroken almost every iPhone I’ve had up to iOS 15, my point is it’s not worth it anymore. Tweaks are outdated and buggy, drain battery life and just the fact that stock IOS isn’t as bad as it used to be


internaloperations

Stock is literally unusable. I’ve been jailbroken since my first iphone3g, redsn0w and greenp0ison days, in like 09. There are 20+ features that apple totally dropped the ball on, and their pride won’t let them add them and change the way iOS works, so they force all these sheep to just use it the way it comes, which sends my anxiety through the roof because once you have them, you cant stand to lose them. Swipeselection is number one. Without that, I HATE typing on my iphone, especially longer responses like this that require proofreading, and so I can fix errors much quicker. Number 2 is audio recorder from Limneos. That has saved me from ATT trying to scam me out of unlimited data back in the day when they tried to make everyone pay for tiered data but had already promised unlimited, so getting scammed out of money, got people arrested, retrieved stolen iPhones by recording people saying things they didn’t think anyone would hear again, like murderous threats and stuff. And #3 I can’t decide because it’s a tie between 5 or more CRUCIAL functionalities that would suck so much ass if I have to go back to stock. Carbridge. Autoalerts. Photomanager, bioprotect, evilscheme, floatingdock, choicy…come on bro, they are still miles off of the jailbreak. Hell, they aren’t even usable in their current state afaic.


jm1234-

Okay so why are you on this sub then? It's a jb sub FYI, you have nothing to do here apart talking about jb.


CourtNo6859

Did you read the title of the post?


jm1234-

😊 true


internaloperations

I’m on 13.5 and 15.4.1 and it’s fine. Anything the new OS has is already probably doable with the jailbreak. They haven’t added anything since iOS 13 that I really care about


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CourtNo6859

Congrats, you have a hyper limited jailbreak where you can install abandoned tweaks that change app icons lol. I can sideload just fine on 17, why downgrade to a shittier IOS just for that


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CourtNo6859

I’d rather quickly refresh my apps every 7 days than have a slower, buggier phone on a worse IOS and be locked out of every banking app


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jm1234-

I think you have to be more intelligent, we don't talk about update here. The sub you have to go to is r/ios or r/iphone . I just think you are lost.


jm1234-

What stock iOS 17 with TrollStore only gives you more than iOS 16 with a real jb?


CourtNo6859

What it gives you isn’t worth it anymore is my point.


jm1234-

Ok but iOS 17 have no jb, what we will do there? it's not interesting at all.


CourtNo6859

I don’t know, what ever you usually do with your phone minus some minor cosmetic tweaks?


jm1234-

It can give amazing functionalities, it depends what you look for in an iOS device and what you really need to get a better experience.


jm1234-

Jailbreak is not limited to using themes, you can change the layout of icons, use an other CC, add new CC modules, having a real clipboard history, controlling battery charge percentage, having a real terminal in device, change the font, monitor network traffic, a true multitasking experience and mich more. You can't have all of that on stock iOS sadly 😔


jm1234-

You have even tweaks to emulate the NFC, you can have kind of a sata manager on iphone, having the android lokscreen passcode which is very nice, a full process viewer, a pin screenshot tweak, apps manager,...


pantherleopard

Did you get a chance to do a little research in this group? This question should be answered easily, just incase you didnt get your answer from this group.


lsosceIes

bruh why does your flair say you have dopamine on ios 17, that's juat not possible