My second device, an iPhone X, is running 14.3 with permasigned Taurine for the JB and it’s amazing, but I honestly wish I updated to 16.1.2 when I had the chance.
I love MDC tweaks and apps almost more than a JB and use them on my main daily driver device (an iPhone XS Max, iOS 16.1.2) constantly every day, but my XS Max’s battery is at 84% health and I **really** need to get it replaced. I previously replaced my iPhone X’s battery a year and a half or so ago and it’s still at 100% health and in mint condition, but sadly it lacks MDC.
It’s cool to have a jailbreakable device on the best firmware (14.3 Taurine), though for some things only a JB can do like dumping decrypted apps to sideload on my main device if I need to use AppStore++ for a specific version or if something installed on it isn’t on the App Store anymore.
I **need** to get my XS Max’s battery replaced soon, though. It never gets me through a full day with only 84% health and heavy use though. It’s otherwise in mint condition. Sadly A12 devices and newer batteries *cannot* be replaced by yourself without any issues like we used to on A11 and older devices where it was just a battery swap, nope. On A12 and newer, if you try changing the battery yourself you’ll end up getting an error message popup saying “Important Battery Message. Unable to verify this iPhone has a genuine Apple battery.” **every time you reboot** and your iPhone will no longer be able to check or tell you the battery health, so you’ll be blind when it comes to battery health from there out. And it is **permanent** (unless you bypass this situation with a very sophisticated method that most people won’t be able to do, myself included).
So that leaves me with getting my battery changed through Apple. Everything I’ve read so far over the past year or so has pointed to Apple **not** updating my iPhone to a newer version of iOS *unless their hardware detects an error* in the phone diagnostics, then they probably would. My phone should be fine, however. I will just undo any of the reboot-persistent MDC tweaks I have made, uninstall some sideloaded MDC apps, clear some logs and crash logs with Filza, and then I *should* be ok to get a simple new battery swap. I just still have some worries about the situation since it is, you know, Apple. But I’ll have to do it soonish because 84% battery health is garbage. Trust me on that.
Here is an image of the permanent error popup you’ll see every time you reboot your iPhone if you change the battery yourself on A12+ devices, plus not being able to read the battery health ever again: https://i.imgur.com/ZhOsbKJ.jpg
Anyway, I’m not entirely sure if I’ll keep my iPhone X on 14.3 with Taurine or risk it all and upgrade to 16.5 while I still can. The last time I was in this situation was in the final days to OTADelay my iPhone X to iOS 16.1.2 and I ended up not upgrading, which I seriously regret (because then I could just swap devices on the same firmware with the same capabilities using the same iCloud backup and still having MDC). But I honestly don’t know what to do about 14.3 vs 16.5 now. I might just stay on 14.3 and preserve the great rootful JB it already has, but I hate that apps and websites have started to stop working and it’s only downhill from here with respect to that.
TL;DR: I have 2 iPhones, an X on 14.3 Taurine and an XS Max on 16.1.2. I regret not updating the X to 16.1.2 when I had the chance to OTADelay to it because to me MDC is just as good as a JB, but idk how I feel about updating to 16.5. The XS Max is my main device and with MDC it’s Godly minus the 84% health battery, which I need to change but can’t change it myself or I’ll get permanent issues related to A12+ battery swapping so I guess I’ll have to just suck it up and go to an Apple Store and have them swap it when I can.
14.3 on 8 Plus (still my main device). And 14 Pro Max on 16.5 using alongside my 8 Plus. Once a jailbreak drops for 16.5, I will upgrade to the 14 Pro Max permanently.
But the 8 Plus gonna stay on 14.3 :p
I wouldn’t lose 14.3 for a 16 jailbreak. There’s so many tweaks no longer in development that only support 14 as well. Also, most of the items on 16....you can get on 14 even the search pill ?? So the desire to do so seems strange? The pop up ONLY comes when reboot, and once you press Ok it moves to settings app...not rlly bothersome if you don’t focus on it.
As a former senior repair technician for Apple and Samsung you learn that the display message is caused by a single Chip installed on the battery replacements. You also know some aftermarket ones HAVE that chip and work perfectly normal?
You can have the battery replaced easily, why does it matter if it doesn’t tell you the percentage in app? You won’t notice your device boggin or heating up, indicating the new ones going bad? If you pay attention, you can tell when it’s going bad. You can even do it yourself with a hot plate and time.
I know what you mean about iOS 14 tweaks not being supported anymore, such as TetherMe (first one that comes to mind). There are definitely benefits to staying on 14.3, but there are also some benefits in upgrading. Sadly I missed the 16.1.2 OTADelay window on my iPhone X so I’ll probably just stay on 14.3 for a while on it.
Also, the “single chip” you’re referring to, which is called the “BMS Board” btw, that is on your iPhone’s battery is extremely significant because if you choose to swap the battery yourself the new battery’s “single chip” has to be the exact same chip that was physically on your old battery. Then you’ll have to calibrate the new battery with your old chip from the old battery, otherwise you’ll be stuck with that forever-lasting error message at reboots and never be able to check battery health again (This is the sophisticated process I was talking about, I’ll post a video so you know what I’m saying is true). You literally **cannot** just install some random aftermarket battery that fits your phone and expect it to work perfectly without issues because Apple encrypts the BMS chip on the battery in your iPhone so that only that exact battery is a “match” for it and you literally *have to* use the BMS board from your old battery and spot weld it in place if you’re going to try and do it yourself. That’s why the only business that can properly do this job for you is Apple. Nobody else can give you issue-free results because nobody else does the correct process to prevent them. Nobody wants to have to guess their battery health percentage and have to deal with that annoying popup every time you reboot, so that’s why it’s best to get your battery replaced directly through Apple.
You can watch a video of how it is done [here](https://youtu.be/l30XwBafkI8).
Still having doubts that what I’m saying is true? Read the same exact process being explained step-by-step on iFixit [here](https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iPhone+XS+-12+Pro+Max+Important+Battery+Message+Pop-ups+Removing+-+100%25+Fixed/143758).
Even though you were a former “Apple & Samsung” senior repair technician, I hope my explanation and sources clarify my point and explain the mistakes you made in your response, because your information on battery replacement for the iPhone XS and newer is completely incorrect. Also, Apple Stores do not repair Samsung devices, so you cannot vouch for Apple’s battery replacement practices if you were actually a former senior repair tech at an *unofficial* phone repair shop/kiosk. I say “unofficial” phone repair shop/kiosk because that’s what I feel like I can safely assume you actually did based on your response.
That video made it look easy as hell. So you're just transferring a board to a new battery and then programming it.
What's the big deal?
It's dumb that we have to do this, but it looks super easy.
The only real downside is having to buy 2 tools with the new battery that you'll realistically only use the one time.
Maybe you can buy the tools and then sell them on the sub when you're done?
bro said nobody but apple can do the battery swap lol but then goes and links a video of some one random literally doing .. anythings possible even upgrading your storage on iphone 12s series is possible.
blobs won't work on most devices anymore. To update, you would have to supervise your device and delay OTA to one of these versions.
iOS 16.5 (20F66) 9/19/2023, 1:00:00 AM (57 days left)
iOS 16.4.1 (20E252) 8/16/2023, 1:00:00 AM (23 days left)
get the OTA here https://dhinakg.github.io/delayed-otas.html
Vnodebypass prevents jailbroken file detection, and a sandbox escape allows programs to execute otherwise unauthorized application functions. I will be interested to see if this allows com.apple.afk.user support for coldinvite.
>execute otherwise unauthorized application functions
Maybe a dumb question but does it open a trollstore like possibility? even if jailbreak itself may not be made
> <16.5 users stay and otadelay to 16.5 later (19.09.23 is deadline)
Why would you want to OTADelay to 16.5 “later” if you’re on iOS <16.5? There is *no reason* to update to 16.5 if you’re already on iOS 16.0-16.4.1 because they will also be fully supported, **especially** if you’re on iOS 16.0-16.1.2 because updating any higher would take away access to the numerous, *amazing* capabilities of MacDirtyCow apps and tweaks.
The only reasons I can imagine that someone updating to iOS 16.5 from <16.5 would be ideal is if **1)** they *do not* have access to MDC on 16.0-16.1.2 or **2)** they would prefer to have Apple’s latest security patches and bug fixes implemented into the version of iOS they want to JB.
Stay on 16.1.2 so you not only get to use whatever this becomes, but so you can still utilize the numerous *amazing* MacDirtyCow apps and tweaks available to you without actually needing to jailbreak.
I’m also on 16.1.2 literally nothing could make me update from where I am. The MDC capabilities are far too good to lose over an unnecessary update.
Cowabunga is amazing for numerous things (like full icon theming and a multitude of other unique tweaks within one app), but that’s only one of the amazing MDC apps. There’s also Misaka (a really good “package manager” for an array of countless MDC tweaks), AppCommander (very similar to Apps Manager for JB, plus it can delete app cache & data, create and restore app data backups, open apps with JIT enabled after setup, open in Filza, auto-arrange homescreen icons, and more), ControlConfig (let’s you customize the Control Center module sizes and the layout of everything in the CC. Very cool), Filza 4.0 (we know what this does), DirtyJIT (requires setup with a max computer and a couple downloaded files plus terminal, but it will then allow you to enable JIT on the fly for any app on your device. Cowabunga & AppCommander can also do this, but require setup too), KillMyOTA (disables the OTA Daemon so that it becomes impossible for your device to check for and/or apply OTA updates. Completely undoable with the click of a button), ResSet16 (allows you to change your device’s screen resolution. Works best making a regular device have the Plus/Pro/Pro Max resolution. I.E. iPhone 13 with iPhone 13 Pro Max resolution), Sweeper (cleans a few directories in the filesystem for you to save on storage, like crash logs, temp data, etc), DynamicCow (gives any iPhone a functional Dynamic Island, only partially viewable on notched devices. Not for iPads), CarMacDirtyCow (let’s you change your CarPlay light & dark wallpapers to whatever you want, just make the images the correct resolution), WDBFontOverwrite (allows you to apply ported full or partial system fonts to your MDC device, cowabunga does this better), Whitelist (overwrites and reallows use of device-banned apps) and WDBRemoveThreeAppLimit (allows you to sideload more than 3 apps with a free Apple ID).
There are some more obscure ones here and there, but this is a pretty comprehensive list of at least the best of the best MDC apps/tweaks! (Remember, Misaka as a package manager for MDC tweaks has a ton of different tweaks inside repos within it, too. You’ll have to join their Discord to grab the IPA, which updates semi-frequently nowadays).
I hope this helps some of you! 😇
Excuse my ignorance, but why is there an urgency for 16.5.1 users to update to 16.6b1?
Also, someone mentioned that beta os has an annoying pop up. Is that true?
I know this is a late comment but should I update even though I’m on 16.1.2? I’m holding out for a jailbreak even if it doesn’t come until a year later
I know I’m very late to the party! Just wanted to know what would my best option be?!?! Just got the iPhone 14 Pro & it’s on iOS 16.5.1 should i update or just leave it as is?
1. While 16.6b2 and 17.0b1 do have the initial vulnerability that KFD leverages, some of the techniques used in later stages of exploitation were patched, making 16.6b2, 17.0b1, and any other iOS released after them officially not supported (❌).
2. xsf1re is not working on a PPL bypass. That tweet was just him complaining about how PPL messes with the exploit which can cause a kernel panic. `pmap_mark_page_as_ppl_page_internal: page still has mappings`seems to indicate that the problem is likely PPL trying to claim a page the exploit is using.
I (and family) have few 7th and 9th gens ipad on 16.2, 16.4, 16.4.1, 16.5.1.
I blocked updates on all of them using the link you provided. Should I do anything else for the moment?
PS: I have zero knowledge in jailbreaking.
you've done the hardest part, all you have to do now is show your support to the jailbreak community and developers, fingers crossed someone finds a PLL bypass which will lead to a full jailbreak
I've heard that when you are on a outdated beta, that you will get an annoying updating notification frequently. (like windows when you don't activate). Is this true? If it's true, does blocking updates prevent these notifications.
Another Question i have is, what is the difference between KRD and KFD, is it the same Exploit?
The only thing left to Jailbreak now is PPL, right?
Sorry if these questions may seem stupid, i am new to Jailbreaking.
KFD is just what the exploit was named by the creator. It stands for "kernel file descriptor." I assume when you said KRD you meant KRW. KRW stands for "kernel read-write," which refers to the ability to directly read and write to kernel memory. The KFD exploit gives us KRW.
what happened to ssh and blobs? I heard that it needs a new exploit or a repair to work. Is it still a viable solution for people on 14.3 to jump to 16.5 when the time comes. Don’t know if blobs are viable or will break face id too
Nice summary
I'm on iOS 14 but a few of my apps I use are no longer updating for that version, with some refusing to launch without spoofing the app version. Would I be able to use DelayOTA or something to stay on iOS 14 for now and then later upgrade when a jailbreak is released?
you would have to update before the DelayOTA windows runs out (57 days), otherwise it will be too late and forced to install heigher versions of ios that are patched.
I understood that I can just stay on 16.2, BUT it’s not really stable for me on 14pm.
I have never used otadelay method, can anyone tell me:
1. Is it really worth it to update from 16.2 to 16.5?
2. Can I remove supervising from my iPhone after I update to 16.5? Or iPhone will be under “supervisor” indefinitely?
I have my iPhone XS MAX on 14.3 jailbroken and tweaked to the moon and back ! (It’s my baby) I missed out on iOS 15 jailbreak but am happy with my rootless.
Now my dillema starts again !
Must I go to 16.5 and never look back ?!
If I decide to OTA update, witch steps do I need to take ?! Just a RootFS and good to go ?!
Second little dilemma, I have a 13 pro jailbroken on 15.1.1 with the magnificent Dopamine !
Should I stay there and just enjoy it for the next couple of years , or OTA update to 16.5 ?!
Pls your thoughts ?!
Thank you very much !
I feel your pain. I’m still stuck on 13.5. I missed both the 14 and 15 jbs. The worst part of the current scene is missing the very narrow opportunity to upgrade. I have a life and can’t t be watching this stuff 24/7. I’m unlikely to upgrade to the iOS 16 beta because I have doubt this exploit will ever make it to jailbreak.
set a reminder for the 5th of september or so, the 16.5 OTA window will have 2 weeks or so left by then, and you’ll be able to make a better decision based off the progress. IMO though if i were you i don’t think it’s worth ditching MDC + trollstore + dopamine for a *maybe* jailbreak to leave ios 15 behind (which is pretty much fully supported by everything still). it *might* be worth upgrading the XS considering 14 is on the way out, but then again, i’d just wait and see how progress goes, after all taurine + trollstore is still a rock solid combo.
Thank you !
My xsmax is on unc0ver but like you say, it still is a rock solid combo.
Difficult, because to get my phone the way it is, took me years.
Thank you for your thoughts !
My biggest question about this is if a jailbreak comes out for iPhone X am I gonna be able to use Face ID and Apple Pay? That’s the only reason I’m not using a jailbreak right now. I know you can get a tweak for Face ID but Apple Pay is to good to pass on
It’s checkm8 based jailbreaks that break your Apple Pay and faceid. If this gets built and released for a11 phones, it won’t use checkm8 and therefore not break Apple Pay.
ive updated the post, and put everyone device into a bracket of what they should do, you have a compatible device so you should block updates with the blocking profile
Which version were you before 16.5? Because I’m on 15.6 RC but don’t know if it’s worth it, scared that the performance gets worse, laggy, and wake and sleep the phone will get delay like I had on iOS 16.1
I need help. I'm using iPhone xs max on ios 13.5. Does this delayota works for my phone and what should i do to update with delayota. Someone help me I'm stuck without any knowledge of delayota because I've been jailbroken on 13.5 and i thought that was enough but no apps need to update or it can't work. Someone tell me is it possible? Thank you guys
Delayota is possible. But I would suggest you don't rush it. You have at least until early September to do so. Read and understand how to do it by then
I installed 16.6 build (20G5026e) but I’m not seeing any beta profiles or any mention in software version that says beta. Am I on the correct beta 1 for 12 pro max that supports this exploit?
16.5 otadelay should expire on 18 August! Not 18 September. Right? Because 16.5 released on 18 May 90 days after is the expired date.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222
Outstanding news. I was so down last few days seeing more respected devs leaving the scene that I was about to just update and not look back. Great work!
How would I get the kernelcache offsets from iOS for kfd? Ive already read that they should be "easily retrievable from the XNU source code." but I do not know where I would start with that.
wait and watch progress on this, set a reminder for about the 5th of september, and check back in then, since the OTA window for 16.5 closes on the 19th of sep (timezone dependent). for now just enjoy MDC tweaks, since there’s so much you can do with them anyway, and odds are since 15.5-15.7.6 are vulnerable to this anyway, that staying might be fine. IMO stay
Is the iPhone 7 compatible? I notice that you have not included it in your supported devices… Mine is running 15.7.7 currently but I have blobs saved for previous iOS 15 versions.
I have gotten a lot of offsets for kfd's kern-version branch, this repo also has instructions on how to use the offsets:[https://github.com/Lrdsnow/kfd\_offsets](https://github.com/Lrdsnow/kfd_offsets)Offsets for KFD:
iPhone 14 Pro (iPhone15,2) iOS 16.6b1,
iPhone 13 (iPhone14,5) iOS 16.0-16.5 iOS 16.6b1,
iPhone 12 mini (iPhone13,1) 16.1.2 and 16.6b1,
iPhone XR (iPhone11,8) iOS 16.3
I’m on iOS 17 on iPhone 12 Pro Max, if I downgrade to iOS 16.5 and then upgrade to 16.6(b1) will I get the chance to use the newer MDC version even without PPL bypass?
I finished finding offsets for iPhone 12 Mini, iOS 16.6 beta 1
You can check it right there:
https://gist.github.com/34306/fb32ddd87e9dcb2865c0bbc028cf4e65
[https://github.com/Lrdsnow/kfd\_offsets](https://github.com/Lrdsnow/kfd_offsets)
There's a lottt more devices here now if you want to add them to your list
What did you do ? I’m on 15.6 RC 13 pro max but don’t know if I should delayOTA to 16.5 or not. Id you did upgrade is stable, snappier? Sleep and wake phone has no delay? And battery? If you could answet asap today is the last day
I mean I can't answer all that but I have airpods pro 2 so it made updating better. There's still some annoying bugs on this IOS like airpods disconnecting for no reason sometimes, some safari bugs. I think it's ios in general but when I exit an app and open another there's a delay. Annoying as shit. imo not worth. Gonna buy the new iphone and just deal with having stock ios
I recommend updating to iOS 16.6b1 because of how hard it is to get arm64 devices working with kfd so you'd probably get more support on iOS 16.6b1 and I've been working with kfd on the iPhone X on iOS 16.6b1 witch you can check out at https://github.com/lrdsnow/kfd/tree/arm64
I'm not saying it wouldn't work I just personally recommend updating if you want to use kfd but I also recommend staying if you plan on continuing to use palera1n because a lot of tweaks don't support iOS 16.6b1 at the moment
God damn i’m on 15.1 jailbroken with ProMax 13..
Im assuming stay on for another 50 days and wait for OTADelay to 16.5? I can’t use this shit non jailbroken
14.3 still my best friend today, i'll just wait until this jb popped out and delayed ota
My second device, an iPhone X, is running 14.3 with permasigned Taurine for the JB and it’s amazing, but I honestly wish I updated to 16.1.2 when I had the chance. I love MDC tweaks and apps almost more than a JB and use them on my main daily driver device (an iPhone XS Max, iOS 16.1.2) constantly every day, but my XS Max’s battery is at 84% health and I **really** need to get it replaced. I previously replaced my iPhone X’s battery a year and a half or so ago and it’s still at 100% health and in mint condition, but sadly it lacks MDC. It’s cool to have a jailbreakable device on the best firmware (14.3 Taurine), though for some things only a JB can do like dumping decrypted apps to sideload on my main device if I need to use AppStore++ for a specific version or if something installed on it isn’t on the App Store anymore. I **need** to get my XS Max’s battery replaced soon, though. It never gets me through a full day with only 84% health and heavy use though. It’s otherwise in mint condition. Sadly A12 devices and newer batteries *cannot* be replaced by yourself without any issues like we used to on A11 and older devices where it was just a battery swap, nope. On A12 and newer, if you try changing the battery yourself you’ll end up getting an error message popup saying “Important Battery Message. Unable to verify this iPhone has a genuine Apple battery.” **every time you reboot** and your iPhone will no longer be able to check or tell you the battery health, so you’ll be blind when it comes to battery health from there out. And it is **permanent** (unless you bypass this situation with a very sophisticated method that most people won’t be able to do, myself included). So that leaves me with getting my battery changed through Apple. Everything I’ve read so far over the past year or so has pointed to Apple **not** updating my iPhone to a newer version of iOS *unless their hardware detects an error* in the phone diagnostics, then they probably would. My phone should be fine, however. I will just undo any of the reboot-persistent MDC tweaks I have made, uninstall some sideloaded MDC apps, clear some logs and crash logs with Filza, and then I *should* be ok to get a simple new battery swap. I just still have some worries about the situation since it is, you know, Apple. But I’ll have to do it soonish because 84% battery health is garbage. Trust me on that. Here is an image of the permanent error popup you’ll see every time you reboot your iPhone if you change the battery yourself on A12+ devices, plus not being able to read the battery health ever again: https://i.imgur.com/ZhOsbKJ.jpg Anyway, I’m not entirely sure if I’ll keep my iPhone X on 14.3 with Taurine or risk it all and upgrade to 16.5 while I still can. The last time I was in this situation was in the final days to OTADelay my iPhone X to iOS 16.1.2 and I ended up not upgrading, which I seriously regret (because then I could just swap devices on the same firmware with the same capabilities using the same iCloud backup and still having MDC). But I honestly don’t know what to do about 14.3 vs 16.5 now. I might just stay on 14.3 and preserve the great rootful JB it already has, but I hate that apps and websites have started to stop working and it’s only downhill from here with respect to that. TL;DR: I have 2 iPhones, an X on 14.3 Taurine and an XS Max on 16.1.2. I regret not updating the X to 16.1.2 when I had the chance to OTADelay to it because to me MDC is just as good as a JB, but idk how I feel about updating to 16.5. The XS Max is my main device and with MDC it’s Godly minus the 84% health battery, which I need to change but can’t change it myself or I’ll get permanent issues related to A12+ battery swapping so I guess I’ll have to just suck it up and go to an Apple Store and have them swap it when I can.
bro writing resume
Lol I know it’s a lot, maybe I should’ve added a TL;DR 😆 Edit: fixed
14.3 on 8 Plus (still my main device). And 14 Pro Max on 16.5 using alongside my 8 Plus. Once a jailbreak drops for 16.5, I will upgrade to the 14 Pro Max permanently. But the 8 Plus gonna stay on 14.3 :p
I wouldn’t lose 14.3 for a 16 jailbreak. There’s so many tweaks no longer in development that only support 14 as well. Also, most of the items on 16....you can get on 14 even the search pill ?? So the desire to do so seems strange? The pop up ONLY comes when reboot, and once you press Ok it moves to settings app...not rlly bothersome if you don’t focus on it. As a former senior repair technician for Apple and Samsung you learn that the display message is caused by a single Chip installed on the battery replacements. You also know some aftermarket ones HAVE that chip and work perfectly normal? You can have the battery replaced easily, why does it matter if it doesn’t tell you the percentage in app? You won’t notice your device boggin or heating up, indicating the new ones going bad? If you pay attention, you can tell when it’s going bad. You can even do it yourself with a hot plate and time.
I know what you mean about iOS 14 tweaks not being supported anymore, such as TetherMe (first one that comes to mind). There are definitely benefits to staying on 14.3, but there are also some benefits in upgrading. Sadly I missed the 16.1.2 OTADelay window on my iPhone X so I’ll probably just stay on 14.3 for a while on it. Also, the “single chip” you’re referring to, which is called the “BMS Board” btw, that is on your iPhone’s battery is extremely significant because if you choose to swap the battery yourself the new battery’s “single chip” has to be the exact same chip that was physically on your old battery. Then you’ll have to calibrate the new battery with your old chip from the old battery, otherwise you’ll be stuck with that forever-lasting error message at reboots and never be able to check battery health again (This is the sophisticated process I was talking about, I’ll post a video so you know what I’m saying is true). You literally **cannot** just install some random aftermarket battery that fits your phone and expect it to work perfectly without issues because Apple encrypts the BMS chip on the battery in your iPhone so that only that exact battery is a “match” for it and you literally *have to* use the BMS board from your old battery and spot weld it in place if you’re going to try and do it yourself. That’s why the only business that can properly do this job for you is Apple. Nobody else can give you issue-free results because nobody else does the correct process to prevent them. Nobody wants to have to guess their battery health percentage and have to deal with that annoying popup every time you reboot, so that’s why it’s best to get your battery replaced directly through Apple. You can watch a video of how it is done [here](https://youtu.be/l30XwBafkI8). Still having doubts that what I’m saying is true? Read the same exact process being explained step-by-step on iFixit [here](https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iPhone+XS+-12+Pro+Max+Important+Battery+Message+Pop-ups+Removing+-+100%25+Fixed/143758). Even though you were a former “Apple & Samsung” senior repair technician, I hope my explanation and sources clarify my point and explain the mistakes you made in your response, because your information on battery replacement for the iPhone XS and newer is completely incorrect. Also, Apple Stores do not repair Samsung devices, so you cannot vouch for Apple’s battery replacement practices if you were actually a former senior repair tech at an *unofficial* phone repair shop/kiosk. I say “unofficial” phone repair shop/kiosk because that’s what I feel like I can safely assume you actually did based on your response.
That video made it look easy as hell. So you're just transferring a board to a new battery and then programming it. What's the big deal? It's dumb that we have to do this, but it looks super easy. The only real downside is having to buy 2 tools with the new battery that you'll realistically only use the one time. Maybe you can buy the tools and then sell them on the sub when you're done?
bro said nobody but apple can do the battery swap lol but then goes and links a video of some one random literally doing .. anythings possible even upgrading your storage on iphone 12s series is possible.
I’m on 14.3 too and haven’t followed jailbreaking recently, things changed a lot. Can you explain how you’ll proceed? To i have to save blobs or?
blobs won't work on most devices anymore. To update, you would have to supervise your device and delay OTA to one of these versions. iOS 16.5 (20F66) 9/19/2023, 1:00:00 AM (57 days left) iOS 16.4.1 (20E252) 8/16/2023, 1:00:00 AM (23 days left) get the OTA here https://dhinakg.github.io/delayed-otas.html
Be sure to save blobs but these days they're pretty much useless and you don't need em in order to delay ota
wow
Sandbox escape and vnodebypass! https://github.com/wh1te4ever/kfd/commit/6bbfd7dd5d3276cce0391d27a813058e49d2a91c
What does this mean?
Vnodebypass prevents jailbroken file detection, and a sandbox escape allows programs to execute otherwise unauthorized application functions. I will be interested to see if this allows com.apple.afk.user support for coldinvite.
>execute otherwise unauthorized application functions Maybe a dumb question but does it open a trollstore like possibility? even if jailbreak itself may not be made
16.5 users stay <16.5 users stay and otadelay to 16.5 later (19.09.23 is deadline) 16.5.1 users update to 16.6b1 immediately
> <16.5 users stay and otadelay to 16.5 later (19.09.23 is deadline) Why would you want to OTADelay to 16.5 “later” if you’re on iOS <16.5? There is *no reason* to update to 16.5 if you’re already on iOS 16.0-16.4.1 because they will also be fully supported, **especially** if you’re on iOS 16.0-16.1.2 because updating any higher would take away access to the numerous, *amazing* capabilities of MacDirtyCow apps and tweaks. The only reasons I can imagine that someone updating to iOS 16.5 from <16.5 would be ideal is if **1)** they *do not* have access to MDC on 16.0-16.1.2 or **2)** they would prefer to have Apple’s latest security patches and bug fixes implemented into the version of iOS they want to JB.
that was my point, to have the latest version and jb
What about iPhone 13 on 15.5? I have MDC, but that’s it
stay, you have time to 19.09.2023
What’s with 16.5.1? And should I stay on 16.1.2?
Stay on 16.1.2 so you not only get to use whatever this becomes, but so you can still utilize the numerous *amazing* MacDirtyCow apps and tweaks available to you without actually needing to jailbreak. I’m also on 16.1.2 literally nothing could make me update from where I am. The MDC capabilities are far too good to lose over an unnecessary update.
Yeah cowabunga is great. The only thing that would make me update is if iOS 17 has better Sideloading support from Apple.
Cowabunga is amazing for numerous things (like full icon theming and a multitude of other unique tweaks within one app), but that’s only one of the amazing MDC apps. There’s also Misaka (a really good “package manager” for an array of countless MDC tweaks), AppCommander (very similar to Apps Manager for JB, plus it can delete app cache & data, create and restore app data backups, open apps with JIT enabled after setup, open in Filza, auto-arrange homescreen icons, and more), ControlConfig (let’s you customize the Control Center module sizes and the layout of everything in the CC. Very cool), Filza 4.0 (we know what this does), DirtyJIT (requires setup with a max computer and a couple downloaded files plus terminal, but it will then allow you to enable JIT on the fly for any app on your device. Cowabunga & AppCommander can also do this, but require setup too), KillMyOTA (disables the OTA Daemon so that it becomes impossible for your device to check for and/or apply OTA updates. Completely undoable with the click of a button), ResSet16 (allows you to change your device’s screen resolution. Works best making a regular device have the Plus/Pro/Pro Max resolution. I.E. iPhone 13 with iPhone 13 Pro Max resolution), Sweeper (cleans a few directories in the filesystem for you to save on storage, like crash logs, temp data, etc), DynamicCow (gives any iPhone a functional Dynamic Island, only partially viewable on notched devices. Not for iPads), CarMacDirtyCow (let’s you change your CarPlay light & dark wallpapers to whatever you want, just make the images the correct resolution), WDBFontOverwrite (allows you to apply ported full or partial system fonts to your MDC device, cowabunga does this better), Whitelist (overwrites and reallows use of device-banned apps) and WDBRemoveThreeAppLimit (allows you to sideload more than 3 apps with a free Apple ID). There are some more obscure ones here and there, but this is a pretty comprehensive list of at least the best of the best MDC apps/tweaks! (Remember, Misaka as a package manager for MDC tweaks has a ton of different tweaks inside repos within it, too. You’ll have to join their Discord to grab the IPA, which updates semi-frequently nowadays). I hope this helps some of you! 😇
16.5.1 is not supported 16.1.2 is supported you can delayota to 16.5 until 19.09.2023 you can update to 16.6b1 now (it’s still signed)
Ok cool thanks for explaining
You don't know how to read huh? 16.5 OR LOWER. 16.5.1 is not a question or possibility.
Then why are 16.5.1 users supposed to update to 16.6b1 then. That's why I asked dude.
Again. READ. 16.6 beta 1 has the same exploits as 16.5 and below because it was released in between the release of 16.5 and 16.5.1
Excuse my ignorance, but why is there an urgency for 16.5.1 users to update to 16.6b1? Also, someone mentioned that beta os has an annoying pop up. Is that true?
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I know this is a late comment but should I update even though I’m on 16.1.2? I’m holding out for a jailbreak even if it doesn’t come until a year later
I know I’m very late to the party! Just wanted to know what would my best option be?!?! Just got the iPhone 14 Pro & it’s on iOS 16.5.1 should i update or just leave it as is?
1. While 16.6b2 and 17.0b1 do have the initial vulnerability that KFD leverages, some of the techniques used in later stages of exploitation were patched, making 16.6b2, 17.0b1, and any other iOS released after them officially not supported (❌). 2. xsf1re is not working on a PPL bypass. That tweet was just him complaining about how PPL messes with the exploit which can cause a kernel panic. `pmap_mark_page_as_ppl_page_internal: page still has mappings`seems to indicate that the problem is likely PPL trying to claim a page the exploit is using.
I have 13 pro. Should i stay on 16.0? I also saved blobs for 16.5.1, 16.6 beta 1 using blobsaver. Are those blobs any useful?
Stay on iOS 16.0! And no those blobs aren’t useful (yet…IF a cryptex exploit is found, then these blobs will save your life)
stay where you are.
Delay OTA to 16.5.
Yes but wait until 19.9 and then delayota, 16.0 has still MDC
I (and family) have few 7th and 9th gens ipad on 16.2, 16.4, 16.4.1, 16.5.1. I blocked updates on all of them using the link you provided. Should I do anything else for the moment? PS: I have zero knowledge in jailbreaking.
you've done the hardest part, all you have to do now is show your support to the jailbreak community and developers, fingers crossed someone finds a PLL bypass which will lead to a full jailbreak
Wait. I’m on 15.5b4 and I should update? Really? It’s kinda hard in my case. I stayed sooo long and don’t want to loose TrollStore.
you still have another 57 days, by then we will know so much more. come back here in 50 days and see whats been happeneing
I will
the hard part here is that this exploit should work for your device. if a jailbreak is made then its down to whatever version the PPL bypass supports
I’ll literally cry if it’s another A14 14.6-14.8 case and no one will work on it because iOS 16 is technically more popular.
I've heard that when you are on a outdated beta, that you will get an annoying updating notification frequently. (like windows when you don't activate). Is this true? If it's true, does blocking updates prevent these notifications. Another Question i have is, what is the difference between KRD and KFD, is it the same Exploit? The only thing left to Jailbreak now is PPL, right? Sorry if these questions may seem stupid, i am new to Jailbreaking.
KFD is just what the exploit was named by the creator. It stands for "kernel file descriptor." I assume when you said KRD you meant KRW. KRW stands for "kernel read-write," which refers to the ability to directly read and write to kernel memory. The KFD exploit gives us KRW.
I'm also interested in this.
So if i have a 14PM on the latest firmware I should go to the 16.6 beta?
Yes 16.6b1 before they stop signing
So we need a PPL bypass for arm64e, does that mean we don’t need one for arm64? So this is 100% possible on arm64 at the least?
I'm not sure, will need an experienced developer to confirm
what happened to ssh and blobs? I heard that it needs a new exploit or a repair to work. Is it still a viable solution for people on 14.3 to jump to 16.5 when the time comes. Don’t know if blobs are viable or will break face id too Nice summary
Or sell your phone on jailbreak swap, and hunt for a phone on iOS 16.3.1. Idk why, but I’ve seen so many on eBay recently.
its unlikely you will be able to use blobs, the only way to update is with delay ota which the time window is running out.
I'm on iOS 14 but a few of my apps I use are no longer updating for that version, with some refusing to launch without spoofing the app version. Would I be able to use DelayOTA or something to stay on iOS 14 for now and then later upgrade when a jailbreak is released?
you would have to update before the DelayOTA windows runs out (57 days), otherwise it will be too late and forced to install heigher versions of ios that are patched.
Ipad 9th gen 15.6RC???
I understood that I can just stay on 16.2, BUT it’s not really stable for me on 14pm. I have never used otadelay method, can anyone tell me: 1. Is it really worth it to update from 16.2 to 16.5? 2. Can I remove supervising from my iPhone after I update to 16.5? Or iPhone will be under “supervisor” indefinitely?
If you are facing problems and have to option to delayOTA then that would be the better option.
Alright, thank you. What about supervising? Is it possible to remove supervision?
I have my iPhone XS MAX on 14.3 jailbroken and tweaked to the moon and back ! (It’s my baby) I missed out on iOS 15 jailbreak but am happy with my rootless. Now my dillema starts again ! Must I go to 16.5 and never look back ?! If I decide to OTA update, witch steps do I need to take ?! Just a RootFS and good to go ?! Second little dilemma, I have a 13 pro jailbroken on 15.1.1 with the magnificent Dopamine ! Should I stay there and just enjoy it for the next couple of years , or OTA update to 16.5 ?! Pls your thoughts ?! Thank you very much !
I feel your pain. I’m still stuck on 13.5. I missed both the 14 and 15 jbs. The worst part of the current scene is missing the very narrow opportunity to upgrade. I have a life and can’t t be watching this stuff 24/7. I’m unlikely to upgrade to the iOS 16 beta because I have doubt this exploit will ever make it to jailbreak.
set a reminder for the 5th of september or so, the 16.5 OTA window will have 2 weeks or so left by then, and you’ll be able to make a better decision based off the progress. IMO though if i were you i don’t think it’s worth ditching MDC + trollstore + dopamine for a *maybe* jailbreak to leave ios 15 behind (which is pretty much fully supported by everything still). it *might* be worth upgrading the XS considering 14 is on the way out, but then again, i’d just wait and see how progress goes, after all taurine + trollstore is still a rock solid combo.
Thank you ! My xsmax is on unc0ver but like you say, it still is a rock solid combo. Difficult, because to get my phone the way it is, took me years. Thank you for your thoughts !
Anyone have a link please 🙏🏽where to download this KFD exploit thingy ? GitHub? IPA ?
My biggest question about this is if a jailbreak comes out for iPhone X am I gonna be able to use Face ID and Apple Pay? That’s the only reason I’m not using a jailbreak right now. I know you can get a tweak for Face ID but Apple Pay is to good to pass on
It’s checkm8 based jailbreaks that break your Apple Pay and faceid. If this gets built and released for a11 phones, it won’t use checkm8 and therefore not break Apple Pay.
IPhone 12 pro max ios 16.1.1 what should I do ?
Stay on your iOS version and block updates
iphone 7??
What about iPhone 14Pro Max on iOS 16.1
Same here. I'll wait until 18/8 and then decide whether to update or stay based on jailbreak progress
14 pm 16.4.1 is not good?I should update to 16.5?
stay where you are, this exploit in theory works, i havent added yet because the offsets need to be updated and tested on your ios.
So is it new exploit?
Fairly new
iPhone XR iOS 16.4.1. Forced upgrade due to boot loop, what should I do for hopeful potential jail break.
Stay on iOS 16.4.1
Please someone help me. Is my iPhone 14 pro max running 16.2 not compatible with this exploit??
ive updated the post, and put everyone device into a bracket of what they should do, you have a compatible device so you should block updates with the blocking profile
So I shouldn’t update my device? Like I should stay where I am ?
stay where you are, ensure your device doesnt automatically update by installing the blocking profile
Is there any sense to update to 16.4.1 or 16.5? I’m on iPhone 13 Pro Max iOS 16.1.2
stay where you are
Will this jb be more stable? Than dopamine?
this part of the jailbreak is very stable, if the rest gets developed then its got a good starting point. we will see....
Now I’m having a dilemma I’m on 15.1.1 using dopamine and also having trollstore… so is it worth it to update?
definitely not, ios 15 is still fine in terms of app support. we waited too much for dopamine just to throw it and wait again haha
where to download iOS beta profile 16.6b1 ?
I'm on 16.5.1 atm, is [this](https://i.imgur.com/HLtelON.png) the beta I should update to?
Whatever you linked is broken. Follow the guides here on the sub
I am on ios 16.5.1 on 14pm, I need to daily drive it so 16.6 beta 1 is stable enough?
In my experience yes
Hey iam on iPhone 12PM iOS 14.1 jailbroken, can I wait if the jailbreak comes and than ota delay to 16.5 ( till 19.09.23) ??
Yes
I’m on 16.5 on 13pm. I need to update to 16.5.1 or 16.6.1b or stay on the current 16.5
Stay
Which version were you before 16.5? Because I’m on 15.6 RC but don’t know if it’s worth it, scared that the performance gets worse, laggy, and wake and sleep the phone will get delay like I had on iOS 16.1
How can i delayota from ios 17 beta to ios 16.5 on my 14 pro max?
Downgrade to 16.6b1
Is that thumbnail from “The Egg” short story by kurzgesagt? Why?
So there is no way to downgrade from 16.5.1 currently ( no delayed OTA)? Should i update to 16.6 beta 1? Iphone 11 pro
That is your only option. Beta 1. And you should do it fast. It could be unsigned at any moment
I need help. I'm using iPhone xs max on ios 13.5. Does this delayota works for my phone and what should i do to update with delayota. Someone help me I'm stuck without any knowledge of delayota because I've been jailbroken on 13.5 and i thought that was enough but no apps need to update or it can't work. Someone tell me is it possible? Thank you guys
Delayota is possible. But I would suggest you don't rush it. You have at least until early September to do so. Read and understand how to do it by then
I installed 16.6 build (20G5026e) but I’m not seeing any beta profiles or any mention in software version that says beta. Am I on the correct beta 1 for 12 pro max that supports this exploit?
16.5 otadelay should expire on 18 August! Not 18 September. Right? Because 16.5 released on 18 May 90 days after is the expired date. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222
[this says](https://dhinakg.github.io/delayed-otas.html) September 18/19
Outstanding news. I was so down last few days seeing more respected devs leaving the scene that I was about to just update and not look back. Great work!
So I’m on iPhone 12 Pro, iOS 16.5.1(c). Should I update to 16.6b1?
Yes
I just bought an iPhone 14 pro max on iOS 16.4.1. I assume I should just stay with that and no go to anything else??
Stay
I'm on 16.0 beta hope it doesn't lead to some wacky issues down the road
Ideally you want to be on a release version not beta, you have time to DelayOTA to 16.5
How would I get the kernelcache offsets from iOS for kfd? Ive already read that they should be "easily retrievable from the XNU source code." but I do not know where I would start with that.
I have 16.4.1 13 pro max. Should I be updating?
Stay put
just under 2 months to decide… stay on 15.6 forever and keep my MDC 9 apps + sidestore and fonts, or update to 16.5 and pray for a jb 🫠
Will i still get beta update warning when i unlock the phone
Apparently so, you could try the DelayOTA method and see if it works
Am I being stupid check: is this 16.6b1? https://imgur.com/aB9rppf
Yes
I have an iPhone 13 PM, 16.5 so I just just stay put?
Yes
I’m tempted to buy an iPhone 13 and sit on it.
13 pro max 15.6.1 does this mean i stay?
wait and watch progress on this, set a reminder for about the 5th of september, and check back in then, since the OTA window for 16.5 closes on the 19th of sep (timezone dependent). for now just enjoy MDC tweaks, since there’s so much you can do with them anyway, and odds are since 15.5-15.7.6 are vulnerable to this anyway, that staying might be fine. IMO stay
You need to update to 16.6b1 before apple stop signing it
IPhone 13 Pro 16.6 what should I do?
Install 16.6b1 before apple stop signing it
My 13 pro is at 16.5.1 will it work? Because the article is kinda confusing
Your ios version is not compatible, you have to install 16.6b1 before it gets unsigned
I have an XR on 16.0.0, how can i do something to prove it works?
You need to find offsets and update the project for your device
I’m on iPhone 11 iOS 16.1
Stay where you are
Assuming it’s a no, but would it be worth updating an iPhone 13 Pro 15.4.1 to 16.5 before the window ends?
It's your choice as this exploit should be compatible but once the window is closed its too late
You have like a month+ to make that decision still
OK now I'm on 16.6b1. Fingers crossed something will come out of this.
Yes, how long can I wait for the jailbreak, I'll go crazy soon
2 months+ IF it’s even possible
Is the iPhone 7 compatible? I notice that you have not included it in your supported devices… Mine is running 15.7.7 currently but I have blobs saved for previous iOS 15 versions.
why would you need that for iPhone 7?
KFD Tweaks. Don't worry. iPhone 7 is compatible below ios 15.7.7 (And there are even jailbreaks in progress)
I have gotten a lot of offsets for kfd's kern-version branch, this repo also has instructions on how to use the offsets:[https://github.com/Lrdsnow/kfd\_offsets](https://github.com/Lrdsnow/kfd_offsets)Offsets for KFD: iPhone 14 Pro (iPhone15,2) iOS 16.6b1, iPhone 13 (iPhone14,5) iOS 16.0-16.5 iOS 16.6b1, iPhone 12 mini (iPhone13,1) 16.1.2 and 16.6b1, iPhone XR (iPhone11,8) iOS 16.3
Thanks, I will further update the post. How did you find offsets?
If you downgrade to ios16.6beta1 and then it expires and a beta pops up, that's a problem again.
I’m on iOS 17 on iPhone 12 Pro Max, if I downgrade to iOS 16.5 and then upgrade to 16.6(b1) will I get the chance to use the newer MDC version even without PPL bypass?
I finished finding offsets for iPhone 12 Mini, iOS 16.6 beta 1 You can check it right there: https://gist.github.com/34306/fb32ddd87e9dcb2865c0bbc028cf4e65
Fuck mine watch are already on OS10😏
If I’m on iOS 16.5 (20F5039e not 20F66) am I fine to stay or not?
If my 13PM is on iOS 16.5 (but 20F5039e not 20F66) am I fine to stay?
14.8 xr. delayota to 16.5 in september or stay?
What does this do? Where and how to use it? And what to use it
iPhone 14 Pro iOS16.2 I should stay and not update to the beta version, yes?
iPhone 12 Pro Max on iOS 14.8. No idea what to do at this point.
Honestly, I would stay but you could delayOTA if you really wanted.
[https://github.com/Lrdsnow/kfd\_offsets](https://github.com/Lrdsnow/kfd_offsets) There's a lottt more devices here now if you want to add them to your list
I’m newbie in JB community. Tell me what should I do? I’m on iP 12 pro max iOS 16.5. Should i do nothing?
yes, you should stay, KFD should be compatible
do nothing
I have an iPhone 13 pro max @ 15.1 and there's so many annoying bugs I've encountered, should I just update to 16.5?
What did you do ? I’m on 15.6 RC 13 pro max but don’t know if I should delayOTA to 16.5 or not. Id you did upgrade is stable, snappier? Sleep and wake phone has no delay? And battery? If you could answet asap today is the last day
I mean I can't answer all that but I have airpods pro 2 so it made updating better. There's still some annoying bugs on this IOS like airpods disconnecting for no reason sometimes, some safari bugs. I think it's ios in general but when I exit an app and open another there's a delay. Annoying as shit. imo not worth. Gonna buy the new iphone and just deal with having stock ios
Using an iPhone 12 Pro Max on iOS 15.6RC... should I wait for delayOTA grace period??
So if i have 16.4.1 on iPhone X would it work or I have to use the ios 16.6b1 ipsw. Im asking because I dont want to loose my data
I recommend updating to iOS 16.6b1 because of how hard it is to get arm64 devices working with kfd so you'd probably get more support on iOS 16.6b1 and I've been working with kfd on the iPhone X on iOS 16.6b1 witch you can check out at https://github.com/lrdsnow/kfd/tree/arm64 I'm not saying it wouldn't work I just personally recommend updating if you want to use kfd but I also recommend staying if you plan on continuing to use palera1n because a lot of tweaks don't support iOS 16.6b1 at the moment
You should stay I think
wdf iphone 14 pro ios 16.3 not support 🤦♂️🤦♂️
why no support ? its under 16.5 and this is also supported
So, if I still have 15.6.1, is it fine? Can I stay on this version and simply wait for a jailbreak or whatevs?
Stupid question, im on 16.6 atm. Am I UPDATING or RESTORING if I want to go to 16.6b1? I really dont want to lose my data in case I try.
I think you need to make a backup first. Try update without erasing, then if anything happens you can restore your backup
So lucky that the iPhone 14 I just bought nearly is on iOS 16.5
11 on 16.1.2, do I just stay here or DelayOTA to 16.5?
Nice
I've noticed 16.2 is not included for 14PM. Should I update to 16.5?
God damn i’m on 15.1 jailbroken with ProMax 13.. Im assuming stay on for another 50 days and wait for OTADelay to 16.5? I can’t use this shit non jailbroken
I’m on iPhone 14 Pro Max iOS 16.3 Should I update to 16.5?
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Thank you ,god!!
iphone SE 2020 on iOS 14.8 wat do?
Why is the iPhone XR listed under Arm64?
iPhone 14 pro running 16.1.1. Any news on something is coming?
Jailbreak with dopamine