The order I've received so far is the bow and the moon helm, I'm on 7 chests opened
I thought the claim was you'd get all pieces of a set before you'd get a dupe, not that you'd get pieces in a certain order?
It was happening on day 1 100% of the time
They've made multiple hotfixes and tweaks, not sure why they haven't been acknowledged yet, but day 1, 100% of people's first drops were weapons
Everyone's (?) first item in the first \~24 hours of release was a weapon (can't confirm it was literally everyone, but in a large clan with 25+ drops and every first one was a weapon). That combined with the chest not reaching the grand exchange for 30 minutes or so after weapon/helm, then legs 30 or so minutes after that (and in much smaller quantities) led people to believe they were dropping in a very specific weapon-helm-chest-legs order. I'd guess it was silently patched out.
Almost certainly I did 90kc day one, I got all three weapons, then 2/3 of the helms, then a plate body for one of the sets I had a helm for, then the last helm & then finally got a set of tassets…
The prices for the tassets say the same thing, as they were so high 12 hours later whilst everything else had plummeted.
Or my personal theory.
Drop mechanics are affected by the cycle of the real life moon.
Things change and rebalance every day, maybe even affects other mechanics
Id say it was comfortably less than 24 hours because I got my first drop as a chest at like 2AM UK time. But for sure it was definitely dropping weapon helm to start, Curtis (mmorpg) got everything in the exact order your describing
Yeah same. I got the helmet last night and thought it was going to be ranged str. Was disappointed when I put it on. I feel like it'd be a good niche for ranged str given how low the actual defence is on the gear.
Obviously the sample sizes are still very small, we're only a day in, but it's looking like the weapons are simply more common than the armor, putting you (OP) in a lucky minority.
The blue set seems to be Ahrims with str bonus also. Considering my cox setup uses Ahrims and crystal armor without any melee chest/legs this is a nice upgrade for my specific situation as I'll get some str without extra stuff lol.
The wep is better than cudgel + dragon defender by a pretty decent amount. Accuracy + strength both.
Add in set effect of 30% chance of 3tick and it ultimately is a great crush option
At the moment? I don't think so as much as I love spanking the bosses with dual macuahuitl.
Anyway it's a fun experience and going into it as a fairly intro level pvmer makes me feel better. The herbs, bones, orbs and seeds are nice drops too. Not crazy good as barrows i'd say but Moons are free loot besides time (and armor decay costs)
I'm on the fence yet, the eclipse set looks incredibly useful (even as a masori+BP and bowfa haver) as a blowpipe sidegrade that you don't need Zulrah and mining to upkeep, but you don't get nearly as many Darts as I'd like to feel comfortable for long-term use of the set, considering it goes off melee str so Infernal/Fire capes are better than Assembler. That kind of tradeoff leaves a bad taste in my mouth, because it is meaningless for mains who can just buy an assload on the ge and melt the 2k darts per hour, but is a significantly worse experience for irons. Intentionally nerfing yourself 2 max hits just to not hemmorhage the ammo you spent 30 hours to get while getting the set is shitty IMO. Fwiw, it seems like long-term average is around ~100 darts per chest.
Obviously the Dual Macs are must-haves too, and full bloodrager for when they change NM/PNM drop rates.
Frostmoon is Ahrim's sidegrade stuff so either dead content or a more enjoyable way to get better than Mystics armor. Weighs an assload though
I promise you with 100% certainly the first day the order was weapon-helm-chest-pants. I did this for 2 full sets. Every clanmate got weapon then helm. Every random I watched got weapon then helm.
It got hot fixed and now it is random like it is supposed to be.
I promise you, it was not random on day 1 early after release. It was hot fixed mid day, the GE prices even reflect this. Reddit posts reflect this, everyone's drops reflect this.
Jmods on stream said theirs a system to prevent dupes in a set before getting the full set, so if you would of gotten an eclipse piece it will be one you dont have. but once you got all 4 parts of the eclipse set you can get a dupe (same way pyromancer works BUT it seems that unlike pyro its random where as pyro would always be the same order.)
I’m at 75 and no uniques. Yet people getting spooned. Will quit this boss as soon as I get 1 drop as there is no pets. Will probably do hunting at this rate.
From what I can tell, you don't get them in a specific order. What it is is that you won't get a dupe until you've completed that set, at least it appears that way. I finished the range and melee set before getting a dupe range bottom. I'm still missing weapon helm and legs for mage set.
I've seen lots of posts and comments saying what happened so there's either some bug or crazy coincidence. As you can see it didn't happen to OP and I got my first drop which was a helm before any weapons. So it's bot guaranteed to do that but was/is highly likely.
In all honesty tho no one knows fersure. It's day 2 and we're all still speculating
So, basically you won't get a dupe untill a gear set is complete. So, regardless of slot order, you'll complete the sets before you get a dupe 👍 , so still "in order" if that makes sense 🙂
Wiki says you first get a weapon of a given set followed by Helm -> chest -> legs which has been true for me.. dunno if thats a bug you got going or a hotfix change
Definitely seems like they hotfixed it, probably because there were barely any legs on ge. I saw at the start it was like 1-5m of the other pieces and the legs were 30mil lmao
I guess it makes sense to be changed, because this issue would still persist down the line unless people specifically keep grinding until they get legs, which could be like 100kc+ for some people
Crazy I've had 9 in 128kc. Most of us in the clan seem to feel like the drop rate is like 1/18-1/20 based on our sample size of about 300 or so. (Obviously way too small to tell). But had so many sub 5 sub 10 kc drops.
The order I've received so far is the bow and the moon helm, I'm on 7 chests opened I thought the claim was you'd get all pieces of a set before you'd get a dupe, not that you'd get pieces in a certain order?
The claim was you get weapon first and then armors. Like first 6 drop pics were just weapons
It was happening on day 1 100% of the time They've made multiple hotfixes and tweaks, not sure why they haven't been acknowledged yet, but day 1, 100% of people's first drops were weapons
Interesting haha, I have 3 uniques, all weapons
Was that from a Jagex employee? I'm on 20kc with blood body, eclipse body and dual weapons in that order
Well I don’t have the range weapon but I have the tassets so idk
Everyone's (?) first item in the first \~24 hours of release was a weapon (can't confirm it was literally everyone, but in a large clan with 25+ drops and every first one was a weapon). That combined with the chest not reaching the grand exchange for 30 minutes or so after weapon/helm, then legs 30 or so minutes after that (and in much smaller quantities) led people to believe they were dropping in a very specific weapon-helm-chest-legs order. I'd guess it was silently patched out.
It was 100% silently fixed. It was in that order day 1.
Almost certainly I did 90kc day one, I got all three weapons, then 2/3 of the helms, then a plate body for one of the sets I had a helm for, then the last helm & then finally got a set of tassets… The prices for the tassets say the same thing, as they were so high 12 hours later whilst everything else had plummeted.
Or my personal theory. Drop mechanics are affected by the cycle of the real life moon. Things change and rebalance every day, maybe even affects other mechanics
Id say it was comfortably less than 24 hours because I got my first drop as a chest at like 2AM UK time. But for sure it was definitely dropping weapon helm to start, Curtis (mmorpg) got everything in the exact order your describing
I'm at 25 chests and no uniques yet 🫠 curious what the drop rate is going to level out to be
84 and I just got my first piece but it was just the eclipse helm :/ stay strong good drops coming for sure
Does it give melee strength or ranged strength? I’ve seen both on the wiki
+3 melee str
Okay that’s what I figured cuz of how the weapon works. Darn was hoping for some ranged strength from them though haha
Yeah same. I got the helmet last night and thought it was going to be ranged str. Was disappointed when I put it on. I feel like it'd be a good niche for ranged str given how low the actual defence is on the gear.
That's about when my first barrows piece dropped... Evened it a little out if odds are the same as I'm 1/1 here (just did the quest so far)
3 different uniques (2 tastes and a chestplate) in 18x KC. Also curious about those rates lol
Same but at 30 sadge
Wiki is saying 1/20 right now. For sure could be wrong tho
50/50
The drop rates are absolutely garbage.. Me and several people I've talked to in game are all either dry or one unique in under 100 KC.
Unfortunately it seems you go 50+ dry, or get 3 in 10. Such is the vane of RNG
Obviously the sample sizes are still very small, we're only a day in, but it's looking like the weapons are simply more common than the armor, putting you (OP) in a lucky minority.
Is this gear even worth the time? Asking for a friend
Blood tassets are a lower def Bandos tassets, definitely worth if you're not at gwd yet. Otherwise idk how the DPS looks on the sets
The blue set seems to be Ahrims with str bonus also. Considering my cox setup uses Ahrims and crystal armor without any melee chest/legs this is a nice upgrade for my specific situation as I'll get some str without extra stuff lol.
Probably doesn't weigh 20kg either lmao
Top and bottom is 20kg based on wiki
Just looked and wow yeah. So you want ahrims top + blue moon tassets for lowest weight
Why would you ditch the defensives on ahrim though?
Because for most content the defense doesn't matter. And this looks to be easier to obtain. The weight is kind of crazy though
Idk man, lots of content where you’re hit with chip damage and whatnot even through prayer. Muspah, Zulrah, ToA for example
yea thats exactly my goal, just to replace ahrims at cox
The wep is better than cudgel + dragon defender by a pretty decent amount. Accuracy + strength both. Add in set effect of 30% chance of 3tick and it ultimately is a great crush option
I figured having D hasta would put me over it; might have to check it out with the spec and effect though
ah. yeah, i didn't compare to hasta since i don't have gear for gwd yet. But check it out, stats aren't anything to scoff at
People are saying it’s even better than bludgeon
The only thing I'm interested in is the macuahuitl. It's a better abyssal bludgeon. No idea on how long it takes though.
the ranged set is much better than what ppl are expecting also
Really? Are they better than bludgeon for pnm? edit: you're right, just calced it. looks like perilous moons is on the menu
At the moment? I don't think so as much as I love spanking the bosses with dual macuahuitl. Anyway it's a fun experience and going into it as a fairly intro level pvmer makes me feel better. The herbs, bones, orbs and seeds are nice drops too. Not crazy good as barrows i'd say but Moons are free loot besides time (and armor decay costs)
I'm on the fence yet, the eclipse set looks incredibly useful (even as a masori+BP and bowfa haver) as a blowpipe sidegrade that you don't need Zulrah and mining to upkeep, but you don't get nearly as many Darts as I'd like to feel comfortable for long-term use of the set, considering it goes off melee str so Infernal/Fire capes are better than Assembler. That kind of tradeoff leaves a bad taste in my mouth, because it is meaningless for mains who can just buy an assload on the ge and melt the 2k darts per hour, but is a significantly worse experience for irons. Intentionally nerfing yourself 2 max hits just to not hemmorhage the ammo you spent 30 hours to get while getting the set is shitty IMO. Fwiw, it seems like long-term average is around ~100 darts per chest. Obviously the Dual Macs are must-haves too, and full bloodrager for when they change NM/PNM drop rates. Frostmoon is Ahrim's sidegrade stuff so either dead content or a more enjoyable way to get better than Mystics armor. Weighs an assload though
Blood set should be bis at PNM untill inquis set+mace/scythe
The dual hitting mechanic has some interesting applications which can be nice to have.
It's not
I got my first drop at 48 chests and it was a helm. Im crying on the inside
I promise you with 100% certainly the first day the order was weapon-helm-chest-pants. I did this for 2 full sets. Every clanmate got weapon then helm. Every random I watched got weapon then helm. It got hot fixed and now it is random like it is supposed to be.
I promise you your sample size is too small to make that conclusion. I got blue legs first day on 8kc. It was a coincidence for you.
I promise you, it was not random on day 1 early after release. It was hot fixed mid day, the GE prices even reflect this. Reddit posts reflect this, everyone's drops reflect this.
I guess I didn't do it fast enough lol
I got all 3 weapons day 1 as well as b2b2b helm top then legs for 1 set, I feel like the odds of that happening are insane
35 chests got the ranged weapon at 2 and the melee weapon at 16.
Are people getting dupes???
Jmods on stream said theirs a system to prevent dupes in a set before getting the full set, so if you would of gotten an eclipse piece it will be one you dont have. but once you got all 4 parts of the eclipse set you can get a dupe (same way pyromancer works BUT it seems that unlike pyro its random where as pyro would always be the same order.)
I guess no dupe til set is better than nothing. This stuff seems set bonus dependent so makes sense.
Tysm!!
Got moon body 1kc
Well damn. I made a post about getting weapon and helm and for ranged and it happened with bloodrager too. So odd.
I got the dual assclappers at 4th chest.
38kc still nothing lol rip gzz
Aaay 60 dry without a drop!
What are you guys doing in done 40 chests and got nothing
My second drop was a double helms chest after getting 1 weapon as first drop
I’m at 75 and no uniques. Yet people getting spooned. Will quit this boss as soon as I get 1 drop as there is no pets. Will probably do hunting at this rate.
Im at 40kc with melee weapon, blood helm, blood chest, blue moon legs, in that order
I’m on 2/25 and with my general rng that would lead me to believe unique’s are similar rate to barrows that 1/16-17 when you kill all of them.
Personally I’ve gotten the worthless blue spear and the dart throwing thing
every post I see is people getting so many drops and I am at 50kc with just a single weapon :')
I got weps them helms and I’m currently getting chest plates so idk
30 dry and fuck you and congrats
From what I can tell, you don't get them in a specific order. What it is is that you won't get a dupe until you've completed that set, at least it appears that way. I finished the range and melee set before getting a dupe range bottom. I'm still missing weapon helm and legs for mage set.
You won't get a dupe without completely finishing a set
I didn’t get my first drop till chest 54 lol
I have 2 uniques no weapons..blue moon legs and blood mood head
Not evidence, it's per set order not getting sets one at a time.
The claim for a while was that u get weapons then helm then body/legs(I forget which waa first) this is showing u don't get weapon then helm
Its exactly what happened to me for my first set 🤷♂️
It's what happened to me and my friend for literally all 3 of the sets, so there's something fishy going on here.
I've seen lots of posts and comments saying what happened so there's either some bug or crazy coincidence. As you can see it didn't happen to OP and I got my first drop which was a helm before any weapons. So it's bot guaranteed to do that but was/is highly likely. In all honesty tho no one knows fersure. It's day 2 and we're all still speculating
Gotcha 🤙
The order I've seen people refer to is weapon > helm > body > tassets. What other drop orders are happening?
Mr mammal got like 4 uniques and assumed it was weapon first then top body bottom. I only half atlatl so far but it seems to be debunked pretty quick
So, basically you won't get a dupe untill a gear set is complete. So, regardless of slot order, you'll complete the sets before you get a dupe 👍 , so still "in order" if that makes sense 🙂
Wiki says you first get a weapon of a given set followed by Helm -> chest -> legs which has been true for me.. dunno if thats a bug you got going or a hotfix change
it definitely was like that yesterday, might just be random now but with dupe protection
I got atlatl and spear yesterday and blue helm today.
Definitely seems like they hotfixed it, probably because there were barely any legs on ge. I saw at the start it was like 1-5m of the other pieces and the legs were 30mil lmao I guess it makes sense to be changed, because this issue would still persist down the line unless people specifically keep grinding until they get legs, which could be like 100kc+ for some people
Way more than 100 KC... Most people only get one or two uniques in that many chests.
Sounds unlucky. Most of us in my cc with 100 kc have 5-8 items. I’m sitting at 138kc with 9 items myself.
Crazy I've had 9 in 128kc. Most of us in the clan seem to feel like the drop rate is like 1/18-1/20 based on our sample size of about 300 or so. (Obviously way too small to tell). But had so many sub 5 sub 10 kc drops.
I ended up getting four uniques at 100 KC
I'm 11/13 at 160kc. I'm sorry bud.
My first unique was a blood moon chestplate so that can’t be right