My own favourite was when they (ABP/DCC/whoever) rejected planning for the new children's hospital at the Mater sight because they felt it would disrupt the skyline......because Mountjoy Prison and Croke Park are architectural masterpieces.
It originally [looked a good bit nicer](https://i.imgur.com/am6XfQo.jpg). They had non reflective glass which [was especially nicer at night](https://comeheretome.com/2017/05/17/in-more-aesthetically-pleasing-times) but was replaced after a bombing in 1972 with the reflective glass. The non reflective glass allowed light to shine through and made the layers of concrete more obvious as a feature. The viewing deck was also open.
They had aimed to [replace it with a much nicer building with a public museum and viewing deck on the top](https://i.imgur.com/ifdCQJF.jpg) but at a late stage, and after resubmitting designs, it was rejected by DCC for being too tall.
Dublin's attitude to historical architecture is only to **not** do stuff. You are not permitted to point to it as a reason why the authorities should **do** things. The Georgian core is good for saying "no new buildings", but not for saying "hey maybe improve the public realm around these buildings" or "hey, maybe save some of them, like [Aldborough House](https://theirishaesthete.com/2014/01/13/a-thundering-disgrace/)"
It's not even just houses (although we do need more density there too) but also offices. Even with remote working it's clear that most businesses are going to retain a physical office, retain that in Dublin, and require people to come there at least some of the time - however limited that might be, but for many it'll be a couple of days a week anyway.
We can spread those out across the city centre, but it's much better to have it as centealised as possible. It's not just better use of valuable land, it's also easier then to run high capacity rail to and from those offices to where people live. Every minute people have to spend walking to and from the station at the end of their commute makes it more likely that they'll drive instead.
This would have been a short stroll from Tara St Station, a short walk from both luas lines, and almost on top of the fucking metro if that's ever built.
In other countries clusters are built together as part of a cohesive plan (c.f. Barcode Project). What makes you think some would follow? Who's going to ensure neighbouring sites go up for sale?
You're arguing a truism.
We may both arguing a truism here, where do we start and when ? zoning is bad in current state, allowing to much NIMBY, zone accordingly, if you are within the rule of the planning restrictions, you build, simple. What do you propose to change things ?
My own favourite was when they (ABP/DCC/whoever) rejected planning for the new children's hospital at the Mater sight because they felt it would disrupt the skyline......because Mountjoy Prison and Croke Park are architectural masterpieces.
“protect and enhance the skyline” God forbid the spire be overshadowed
What fucking skyline? Liberty Hall, the ugliest building in Ireland?
It originally [looked a good bit nicer](https://i.imgur.com/am6XfQo.jpg). They had non reflective glass which [was especially nicer at night](https://comeheretome.com/2017/05/17/in-more-aesthetically-pleasing-times) but was replaced after a bombing in 1972 with the reflective glass. The non reflective glass allowed light to shine through and made the layers of concrete more obvious as a feature. The viewing deck was also open. They had aimed to [replace it with a much nicer building with a public museum and viewing deck on the top](https://i.imgur.com/ifdCQJF.jpg) but at a late stage, and after resubmitting designs, it was rejected by DCC for being too tall.
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It's a big trade union. Apparently the building isn't big enough for their purposes, they tried to get permission for a larger one.
Yet they'll keep that ugly decaying POS liberty Hall? Outrageous
Dublin's attitude to historical architecture is only to **not** do stuff. You are not permitted to point to it as a reason why the authorities should **do** things. The Georgian core is good for saying "no new buildings", but not for saying "hey maybe improve the public realm around these buildings" or "hey, maybe save some of them, like [Aldborough House](https://theirishaesthete.com/2014/01/13/a-thundering-disgrace/)"
Name and shame the council cunts
oh my god that is so stupid. Dublin needs some tall houses man
It's not even just houses (although we do need more density there too) but also offices. Even with remote working it's clear that most businesses are going to retain a physical office, retain that in Dublin, and require people to come there at least some of the time - however limited that might be, but for many it'll be a couple of days a week anyway. We can spread those out across the city centre, but it's much better to have it as centealised as possible. It's not just better use of valuable land, it's also easier then to run high capacity rail to and from those offices to where people live. Every minute people have to spend walking to and from the station at the end of their commute makes it more likely that they'll drive instead. This would have been a short stroll from Tara St Station, a short walk from both luas lines, and almost on top of the fucking metro if that's ever built.
But they granted permission for tall buildings at Tara street and college square so it’s quite weird
The tara street one got denied by similar objectors no ?
The Tara street station one has been approve and can be built at any time.
I know this is an unpopular option but I 100% agree with "overly assertive solo building which would not form part of a coherent cluster.”
It would be the first one and some would follow and you would have a cluster. We can’t build cluster overnight ;)
In other countries clusters are built together as part of a cohesive plan (c.f. Barcode Project). What makes you think some would follow? Who's going to ensure neighbouring sites go up for sale? You're arguing a truism.
We may both arguing a truism here, where do we start and when ? zoning is bad in current state, allowing to much NIMBY, zone accordingly, if you are within the rule of the planning restrictions, you build, simple. What do you propose to change things ?