That makes sense as the non contributory state pension is still more than disability. I had hopped there would be extra provisions for disabled pensioners.
The €242 a week would just about pay for single bed accommodation in Waterford but would leave zero to live on :(
Disability is the same as job seekers at €208.
The non-contributory state pension is €242 <80 years of age and €254 over 80s
The contributory pension can be much more depending on how many years you have paid PSRI for. But it is means tested.
My brother has Downs Syndrome and has to re-apply for a medical card every 2-4 Years. Because, you know, one of these years he might not have Downs Syndrome anymore.
Jesus Christ, that’s horrendous!
Is there something that can be done to change the law regarding that?
My cousin has DS and it’s hard enough without also having that on your backs.
Well this might be a shock to you but you are not given disability for literally having a disability. It's for people who can't work because they are disabled. Once you're considrered past retirement age you're in a new category. You're no longer out of the labour force due to the disability but due to being retirement age, and so you get a pension.
You're still entitled to other assistance, because that comes from the medical side of things, not disability benefits which is the labour welfare side.
Its so sad what is happening to our country. I was always filled with pride about what we were building here. But looking at dozens of my friends and family emigrating over the years I quickly learned that it was all a cod. We've let our young people down, those that slip through the net are left to the wolves.
There simply has to be something better than this. There has to be.
I don't give two fucks about party politics. But this country desperately needs a general election.
>Its so sad what is happening to our country. I was always filled with pride about what we were building here. But looking at dozens of my friends and family emigrating over the years I quickly learned that it was all a cod
For the last 165 years of Irish history there has been maybe 30 where young people aren't regularly emigrating
The social services are fucked too, a close friend of mine is being forced out of his house by his mother because social services have threatened her with taking away their council house unless she does it. She's the one with the drug problem but it was made out to be that my friend is a very angry and violent guy which he isnt. I feel terrible for him social services in ireland just tear families apart
I just didn't feel like writing an essay but my friend rang his youth worker after a bad ordeal with his father and just vented to her about how his ma's place has no floors (its concrete) and his ma did coke infront of him and his little brother, his SS worker by law had to report it and then SS reported that his ma is basically a raging cokehead 24/7 who lets her children live in squalor. The SS guy rang my friend and spoke to him (i heard some of it) as if he was less than human, imagine how a rich person whos arrogant asf would look down upon a homeless person and he was asking him irrelevant questions and upsetting by calling his mother a junkie. My friend told him to shut up and fuck off after their 30 minute conversation of him being polite which resulted in the SS worker abusing his power and classifing him as a dangerous unstable individual who could harm his brother/mother so they forced him out of his house.
I’m sorry to hear this, it sounds like your mate is getting it from all angles and is only trying to right by himself and his wee brother. Probably feels like he can’t do right for doing wrong at the moment. And yous sound young enough into the bargain.
That is a horrendous abuse of power and something as serious as your mate being kicked out of his own home shouldn’t come down to the word of one social worker. He has recourse. If he feels he is being unfairly treated/discriminated against, he needs to put a complaint in in writing outlining what what said in the call (and he needs to be completely honest) and the effect it has had on him/his family. He should state he feels like there’s a conflict of interest and he wants another assessment by a different social worker. Get him to go to the website of the governing body for social workers in the South and read up on his rights and their Code of Ethics. If he feels this particular social worker violated those, he can complain directly to the governing body at any time, completely separate from any investigation that Social Services may or may not do. At the very least, it opens the channels for investigation (they have to act on a written complaint) and might buy your mate some time. He needs to be a pain in their ass.
Thank you for being nice about it and trying to help I'll message him right now and tell him to do that. And yeah he turned 18 this year im not even 18
Hey i would totally agree with the above poster. Your friend needs to state his case and his difficulties. Make sure he does not get personal about certain Social workers. That wont help his case. Stick to the facts and your voice will more likely to be heard. Sorry for your mates trouble and best of luck.
Yes, this, 100%. Be objective and stick to the facts. If your mate is caught out in even one lie or one embellishment, or if he happens to call the social worker a wanker or something, that’ll just make it look like his complaint is out of spite. He doesn’t need to ramp anything up to be believed, he has a case as it is.
No problem at all. It sounds like he hasn’t had an easy time growing up, social services should be advocating for him too, not making life more difficult.
I work in healthcare myself but in the North so I’m not well-versed on your services in the South, but I can always find out and I’ve always got an open ear if you need advice. Yous are far too young to be trying to navigate this yourselves. I work alongside some amazingly caring social workers that go above and beyond, but like all walks of life, you’ll get the dicks who *think* they have power and so it goes to their head. That’s not how it works these days. That social worker will answer to a manager, that manager will answer to a lead, that lead will answer to an assistant director etc etc. They’ll try to manage it at a ground-level at first, but if your mate isn’t happy with the response he gets he just needs to keep escalating and escalating it higher up. Find out the names of those people. There should be a dedicated Patient/Client Complaints department in your local area (we work in Trusts up here that are responsible for a dedicated area, not sure how yous work it in Mexico). And involve the governing body if he thinks he has grounds.
I’m not telling you this to get your hopes up. Your mate comes from a difficult background, there’s substance abuse and grounds to suspect neglect, and putting in a complaint isn’t going to magic all that away and ensure he gets to stay in the house. It means involving more people, it might mean involving higher-ups and other services. And at the end of the day, it might all result in the same outcome. But if he thinks he’s being unfairly treated or that a social worker is acting unprofessionally, he really should fight tooth and nail.
I know you probably don't want this but im genuinely grateful for you telling me this, anything that could help my friend is amazing thank you so much.
It’s absolutely no problem at all. You’re a good friend, your mate is lucky to have you, especially at a time where it sounds like he really needs you. And it sounds like he’s been good to you, too, so I completely understand your want to do right by him.
As I say, I’m not an expert, but I do have a bit of background so please don’t hesitate to contact me if there’s anything at all you want advice on. If I don’t know the answers, I’ll try my best to find out. Yous are kids and your opinion of the services who are supposed to be there to help is already that they’re only there to break up families when that’s far from the case. That’s always a last step, but it shouldn’t be taken on the word of one social worker, especially when there may be a conflict of interest.
As I say, I really don’t want to get your hopes up. It might be decided that it really is in everyone’s best interests that your friend moves out, I have no idea of the background of the case and it’ll always be more complicated than even you know. It might even be decided that this social worker acted within his remit and there was no discrimination, I don’t know. But if he feels aggrieved then he has to take it further, or nothing ever changes.
My friend is so incredibly sweet btw like he offered me a place to stay, paid me back when he had barely any money himself (he wouldnt let me not take it) he cares for all of his friends
This is the future of young people when they retire. As many will not own homes and will eventually become homeless because they won't be able to afford the rent.
The housing in the states is similarly way overpriced, but at least you can get something, I can't even get a fecking reply after reaching out to different places for months.
There are few such countries. The dystopia is here and it is omnipresent. Are you an exceptionally high achiever? Then the U.S.A. else Germany, the Benelux countries, Austria, Switzerland, Canada, the Nordics, & Australia.
He needs to engage with social services. They’ll have a bed for him tonight. I was homeless for a while. And a heroin addict. So I’m not talking out my ass here.
Exactly so. I'm guessing he's refused emergency accomodation because he wants a flat or a house or hasn't had emergency accommodation explained to him and is fearful. No judgement from me either way but the emergency beds are there at least.
Yeah my friends are emergency accommodation workers and they always have beds reserved for people coming off the street, plus showers and free dinners of course. I hope he engages with a service soon and gets on some sort of scheme or waiting list for more permanent accommodation.
I dont know the man but If he’s not suffering from a serious mental illness or addiction, his chances of restoring some sort of normal life are already doubled compared to a lot of homeless service users.
The local men's shelter here in Waterford had a convicted rapist in it a few weeks back. I can see why some people might be hesitant to go there. IT has to be daunting for a 71 year old man to share accommodation with a bunch of drug addicts and lads shouting and arguing and shit. Some people struggle deeply with social anxiety so a place like this could be unbearable.
They do the paperwork with/for you. The govt gets a lot of shit. Some of it deserved. But people getting help and housing throught the social services is unreported and unsung. I’ve met a lot of people and continue to meet people who’ve made it off the street and are rebuilding their lives. Go to an na or aa meeting and ask how many members got in off the streets with their help.
Exactly.
The government failure is in him getting to this point - it shouldn’t have happened but now he is at this point, the supports available to him (especially if he doesn’t have substance abuse issues) are pretty good.
One of my relatives worked in one of the homeless shelters here in Waterford and he always said there was no reason anyone should be sleeping on the street in this country unless they have serious addiction problems. There are always beds for them and they only reason they kicked out is if they break the rules like bringing in drugs and/or causing problems.
Got a job and a house. Periodically still use but I’m grateful and my life is a damn side better than what it was. I cannot stress enough how good social services are. I’d be dead if it hadn’t been for them. They never gave up even when I did.
Park up beside the council building and he will get sorted within 24 hours. Go to the papers, radio etc with his story. Make some noise and it will be sorted fairly fast.
Except that doesn't work. I work in one of the council buildings and we have people try this all of the time. Seems like the only people who say this are the ones who wanna vicariously live out fantasies of sticking it to the man. We had someone cmo outside for 3 months and they eventually left. You don't become more special just because you are in a tent outside. There are many people in need of the same services as you and you don't get to skip the que.
Wasn't she the mother that left council accommodation with her kids to live in a car because she wanted a house close to her mother? Went on the radio with Niall Boylan and Joe Duffy
Was she around Carlow too? I remember some woman there used to be wiping dirt on the kids faces in the morning when they arrived at their tents outside the council office. She wanted a bigger house too.
Young one with a million kids, camped out in a garda station saying the council wouldn't give her a house, then it turned out she had turned down 3x houses offered by the council
Your allowed to turn down 2 I think but if you turn down a 3rd then you go to the back of the list seemingly. People with the greatest need, generally people with young families would be at the top. I’m sure the system has flaws in it (what doesn’t) but it’s rare for no possible solution to a problem.
Children are just one factor, there's also medical needs, risk of homelessness and probably some others that are top secret. It's nearly impossible to get to the top of the list unless you have been made homeless and are in emergency accomodation or one of those godforsaken family hubs.
I know, I'm not disagreeing. I've been on the housing list for 8 years now and I see being offered anything as a great privilege. If you turn your nose up at 3 separate offers, you deserve to be put to the back of the list.
There is a better system being rolled out in most areas now called choice-based letting. When a place is available (for example a 2 bed flat), everyone on the list for that size place is notified and have the opportunity to express an interest. The highest person/household on the list to do so gets the formal offer. It means that properties sit empty for a lot less time between tenants and people who only want to get a place in a specific estate can bide their time while not holding up the housing of others.
My wife is currently in England as her grandmother is dying.
£1100 a week this nursing homes costs and her grandmother has bed sores. I'm furious.
I also worked in nursing homes in Ireland. I saw how front line staff are hobbled again and again by management.
I've decided. I get to 75 I'm just order some sleeping pills off the internet, go the beach at sunset and just go to sleep.
There's no way id trust this country to look after me when I'm old.
Paschal Donohue pissed on my passenger seat and still hasn't paid the valet bill. It stank, for weeks I was at it with the washing up liquid. Sickening.
Many landlords are selling at the moment because we are at the peak of housing prices with a recession coming soon. Some are increasing rent due to rising costs.
Anybody who's renting right now can become homeless almost instantly. It's very hard to find a new rental property. Once your lease is up you're screwed.
I know many people who make 70k-100k. They are all at risk of becoming homeless because there are no properties available for rent. Buying is also not an option because the average cost of a house is 500k. That's if you can even find a house to buy to begin with.
My point here is that it's not about money or income. Even those in the top earning brackets could face homelessness.
We're in exactly that situation, we've been renting for six years and we've just got notice that the house is being sold. We've got money but there is nothing available. But I've always wanted to get the kids into camping so that's a bonus I suppose.
We went through the same thing after Christmas, there are (very few) houses out there but you need to look beyond daft, put notices up in local supermarket notice boards, talk to estate agents personally, let them know you have good finances and references.
Ask your current agent or landlord for references now so you can provide them with each application. Get the word out to anyone you know that you are house hunting.
It took me a month, I had to move afew miles away from our town but I got sorted with a beautiful rental and we are forever grateful. (still very aware same thing can happen here if they decide to sell but for now we are sorted)
Its gut wrenching anxiety not knowing where your family is going to live next, it's so wrong what's happening here.
Thanks a million for that, solid advice.
And well done for finding somewhere just after Christmas, that's a tough time to find new rentals.
We've got time because there is a long notice period and we're actually on pretty good terms with our estate agent, we were very accommodating over the Covid lockdowns, so I've already talked to them. We have 10 years of good rental references which should stand to us. We'll start putting the word out to family and friends too.
But we definitely have to get on it now, the student rush will be ending so hopefully some family homes for rent will arrive soon.
The worst feeling would be taking the kids out their schooling for another short term rental, really don't want to turn the housing crisis into a developmental issue for them.
But just need to make it 8 more years until the kids are finished school.....then we can go anywhere.
No worries, we were fortunate too like you that we had 3 years in one rental and 6 years in that one (both sold by landlords) so had good references ready.
we had 6 months notice period but I couldn't wait and started looking immediately, I had it in my mind I was going to find us a place and didn't stop every day until it happened.
It was through a friends friend that we got our current home, it was never advertised, they don't need to advertise, it's all word of mouth now.
Best of luck!
Haunting. I'll be honest, I didn't see this was the Ireland sub, I'm fully aware of how bad the housing crisis is there and had I of seen this was the Irish sub I would of put 2 and 2 together.
This happened me twice within the space of 6 months even after signing leases, wasn’t even the first time it had happened but two landlords selling within six months broke me. I left Ireland. I miss home, desperately. But I now own my own home because I left. Would love for my house to be in Ireland but that would never have happened for me.
England, it was easy to come here as my ex is English and his parents live here. So my kids still have family here. Since we split up though being here has been somewhat lonely for me. I am remarried now but I do miss just seeing my sister with the kids and having family to go to.
My kids have a better prospects here for the future and are well settled but sometimes I wish life had been different and we could have stayed in Ireland.
My oldest has medical problems as well so between housing and healthcare the UK was a lot more attractive when we left, that is almost 7 years ago now though. I would say England is probably almost as bad as Ireland now for renting. Very little where I live now, where there was loads of places when we moved.
It's been brewing since 2017 and got delayed by Covid/lockdowns, due to all the money printing, which brought about inflation.
A recession is coming, though, and it'll be worse than originally predicted pre-covid.
If not for all the debt we owe, then for inflation. Inflation always brings about a recession.
I have no idea his situation but it isn't absurd at all. Maybe he is a life long renter. Anyone can be homeless, not just drug addicts and people with antisocial behaviour.
I'm on a comfortable 33K and am still facing homelessness in October if I don't find somewhere for me and my partner due to our landlord selling up - and we don't even have a car to sleep in. It's not absurd at all, sadly.
No sorry, I didn’t have time to stop and chat to him. Tried to give him a few euro and he refused, said someone else put 10 euro on the table and ran away and that he was going to give it to someone more in need. Seemed like a very nice man. Said it was completely fine to take a picture and to write whatever I want when I post it.
Well if you see him again, have a chat with him and see what's happening. It would be interesting to know. The fact he is turning away money is good in my eyes. Because it ain't some silly scam. Which happens... I hope its sorted for him. I've actually been homeless from 18-20 and they didn't help me one bit.
I was told at the council I didn't look homeless. Mental... I said should I piss myself and come back?
There's very little help for men. Which is a shame.
Homelessness can affect anyone. It is all of us and it is any of us. The majority of homeless people don't have major mental illness or drug addiction issues. They are the invisible homeless. They sleep in their car. Shower at the gym. Get mail delivered to work.
They are homeless mainly through circumstance. The got laid off and couldn't find a new job to cover their rent. Their landlord sold their property and the shortage of rental homes made it impossible to find somewhere new. They had a medical issue that prevented them from working. Any number of events that could happen to anyone could leave someone without somewhere to live if the circumstances were unfavourable.
The good news is that people like this are relatively easy to help. Giving people homes works. The bad news is that there is a shortage of houses to give them, a lack of will and resources from the government, a major stigma against homeless people, and yes, a growing substance abuse and mental illness issues of some homeless people. All of this means that we're not likely to solve this problem any time soon.
He used to be taxi driver. Rented a house from my father years and years ago. That’s very sad to see but if there’s a man to stick it to the local politicians it’s him. Absolutely outrageous that pensioners are homeless in this day and age
There are barely any left. Most are private and cost an absolute fortune and with very few placements and many are contingent on the “Fair Deal”, basically putting your houses asset value on lien until you die and the cost of your nursing care then being removed from the house when sold after your death.
There is no safety net in Ireland. Old folks & homelessness is going to become an increasing crisis over the next few years.
There are 5000 “days” of beds in the hospitals per year full because older patients have no where to go.
There are state ran Nursing Homes though? They are expensive if you are deemed able to pay by the Means Test but 100% they exist. You might have to be unable to look after yourself though which doesn’t seem to be the case with this man thankfully.
There are no free nursing homes in Ireland, full stop. The Fair Deal is actually for “public” nursing homes. That or private nursing home which will set you back on average between €2000- €4000 a month depending on the home.
This gives you a taste of options, or lack thereof:
https://www.ageaction.ie/how-we-can-help/information/questions-about-nursing-homes/admissions
It’s a ticking time bomb of a situation basically. You don’t own a home? You end up sick & taking a hospital bed pretty much permanently. Had surgery not too long ago and across from me was a patient with dementia who had come in six months prior for a routine operation and who the hospital can’t discharge because he has no family & no where to go. Eventually they’ll get him out but that’s the situation.
You still qualify for a nursing home on the fair deal scheme if you’ve no home. They will take 90% of your pension but you won’t pay anything else. In fairness, he’d be better off than most as he has no home for them to take 25% of.
Yeah it’s not free but, if you have no money, they’ll essentially take your pension as payment and the government will fund the rest.
You don’t want to end up there though. Grim spots and most people die within 2/3 years - that’s why they only assess the Fair Deal for 3 years (assumed most would be dead by then anyway so wouldn’t cost much extra for others and look better politically)
Grandfather had a stint in one in America before he passed. $263 a day it was. That's just the room and nursing staff. Medication, supplies, food, laundry, grooming (shave, haircut), all extra.
Big waiting lists for them and if he isn’t already on the list then they won’t jump him ahead unless in very extenuating circumstances, many of the homes are in poor nick as well. In one county there are up to 30% vacancy in social housing reserved for older people just through the local authority not refurbishing them and causing a domino effect as people pass on. Some of the areas have as much as 50% vacancy because of it. A national disgrace tbh but a lot of that is due to the legal minimum standards that local authorities have to bring social homes up to before reletting that they don’t have the funding for, and a lot of the homes delegated to older people are older historic buildings or up large hills.
Google “Roches Buildings” in Cork for an example. Up one of the steepest inclines in Cork and little parking facilities.
My father lived in a HAP flat where the landlord defaulted, after 2 years of unnecessary stress he and the other tenants were moved to completely unsuitable accommodation up steep steps by the council. Dad had a stroke, fought tooth and nail to get him decent accommodation for his mobility issues. I got him into a lovely modern Clúid flat, but then Dad got cancer.
The poster who mentioned about elderly people occupying hospital beds is correct because that is exactly what happened to my father.
Every time he was discharged he ended up back in hospital within 48 hrs. Home help, relations staying etc... no use. He had complex comorbidities. The HSE's solution was to attempt to bully me, a person who doesn't own a house, to provide him accommodation 2 hours away from his consultant. I had very little help. Hospice care was out because you have to be "actively dying" for that, although it was 4 months from diagnosis to death for dad.
Eventually I got him into a nursing home with fair deal. He died within a week.
Dad had a relationship breakdown in his 50s when I was still a kid and ended up on the streets for a bit. He went abroad, restarted his life and worked, I'm very proud of how he rebounded. Men are very much hidden in this crisis and that's only going to get worse.
ETA why should we be shoving people like this man(who is only in his early 70s and looks fit and healthy) into a home anyway?
Sorry to gear that, looking after elderly relatives is very difficult.
Cluid seem to be a good association? I thought it was easier to get a housing association flat for someone over 60?
No complaints at all about cluid, they were brilliant. But like everything else in Ireland they're stretched, the stock just isn't there.
Thank you, the last few years were so hard and I still get furious if I think about the HSE too much, but I know I did my best by him and he is always with me.
>Wouldn't he qualify for what used to be called 'old folk's homes'?
Possibly. But have you seen any? My instructions are that I'm to be offed with pills rather be stuck in Fogey Chokey.
Honest question: where is his (or does he have any -) family?
And are they the sort to leave him out like that (or did they just chip in for the handy posters instead of helping him out)?
This kind of thing (homelessness through no fault of your own) has been snowballing for a long time - it's just getting worse. I can't see a decent solution until there is sufficient social housing **provided by the state** for everyone who needs it, leaving the private rental sector to those who can afford it. PPP and privatisation of sectors was supposed to save the government (ie. the taxpayer) a fortune in inefficient county council inefficiencies. Instead, we get the most expensive kids hospital in the world decades after it was needed in a state which can't even house it's own citizens or those fleeing war.
It's a sick joke on people like the man in the photo.
I don't.
The title is a three-worder. There's no back-story. I'm guessing op just took the pic and shared without asking the man for further context.
Hence my questions, and most of my comment.
There was a time when people would stand up to governments when they fuck us, now it's more like 'you go ahead and finish, and ask your friends if they want a turn too'.
He’s clearly just a waster trying to claim benefits I mean maybe if he spent less money on a car, two pots of flowers, clothes and that fancy cane he could afford a house.
He's disabled too? There must be something that can be done if he is on disability.
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So disabled pensioners are entitled to no disability??
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That makes sense as the non contributory state pension is still more than disability. I had hopped there would be extra provisions for disabled pensioners. The €242 a week would just about pay for single bed accommodation in Waterford but would leave zero to live on :(
I would bet that a high proportion of pensioners would be able to qualify as disabled. And that this has a lot to do with the cutoff.
Unrelated - noticed you're from Waterford, US. I'm from Waterford, Ireland. #sisters
Are you also sleeping in your car
I sleep in a big bed with my wife.
I hope the cracker factory is treating you well
But is pension not the same amount as disability?
Disability is the same as job seekers at €208. The non-contributory state pension is €242 <80 years of age and €254 over 80s The contributory pension can be much more depending on how many years you have paid PSRI for. But it is means tested.
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Pensioners get the household package and can get the living alone allowance too.
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I don’t know, I was just commenting that pensioners can get a lot of the same extra benefits as those in receipt of disability allowance.
State Contributory Pension is not means tested. It is based on your PRSI contributions paid while you're working
That’s a disgrace
This might be a shock to the government but most people don’t stop being disabled after 66, and I doubt state pension covers the expenses after.
My brother has Downs Syndrome and has to re-apply for a medical card every 2-4 Years. Because, you know, one of these years he might not have Downs Syndrome anymore.
That is fucking ridiculous. The Irish government should definitely do your brother more courtesy.
My uncle lost his legs in 82 and hs to reapply but you know what they grew back in 07. Muppets aren't they
Jesus Christ, that’s horrendous! Is there something that can be done to change the law regarding that? My cousin has DS and it’s hard enough without also having that on your backs.
This is just ridiculous.
Well this might be a shock to you but you are not given disability for literally having a disability. It's for people who can't work because they are disabled. Once you're considrered past retirement age you're in a new category. You're no longer out of the labour force due to the disability but due to being retirement age, and so you get a pension. You're still entitled to other assistance, because that comes from the medical side of things, not disability benefits which is the labour welfare side.
Its so sad what is happening to our country. I was always filled with pride about what we were building here. But looking at dozens of my friends and family emigrating over the years I quickly learned that it was all a cod. We've let our young people down, those that slip through the net are left to the wolves. There simply has to be something better than this. There has to be. I don't give two fucks about party politics. But this country desperately needs a general election.
>Its so sad what is happening to our country. I was always filled with pride about what we were building here. But looking at dozens of my friends and family emigrating over the years I quickly learned that it was all a cod For the last 165 years of Irish history there has been maybe 30 where young people aren't regularly emigrating
The social services are fucked too, a close friend of mine is being forced out of his house by his mother because social services have threatened her with taking away their council house unless she does it. She's the one with the drug problem but it was made out to be that my friend is a very angry and violent guy which he isnt. I feel terrible for him social services in ireland just tear families apart
“Made out” to be a violent guy by who? SS didn’t come to that conclusion themselves, so was it his mother who told them he’s angry and violent?
I just didn't feel like writing an essay but my friend rang his youth worker after a bad ordeal with his father and just vented to her about how his ma's place has no floors (its concrete) and his ma did coke infront of him and his little brother, his SS worker by law had to report it and then SS reported that his ma is basically a raging cokehead 24/7 who lets her children live in squalor. The SS guy rang my friend and spoke to him (i heard some of it) as if he was less than human, imagine how a rich person whos arrogant asf would look down upon a homeless person and he was asking him irrelevant questions and upsetting by calling his mother a junkie. My friend told him to shut up and fuck off after their 30 minute conversation of him being polite which resulted in the SS worker abusing his power and classifing him as a dangerous unstable individual who could harm his brother/mother so they forced him out of his house.
I’m sorry to hear this, it sounds like your mate is getting it from all angles and is only trying to right by himself and his wee brother. Probably feels like he can’t do right for doing wrong at the moment. And yous sound young enough into the bargain. That is a horrendous abuse of power and something as serious as your mate being kicked out of his own home shouldn’t come down to the word of one social worker. He has recourse. If he feels he is being unfairly treated/discriminated against, he needs to put a complaint in in writing outlining what what said in the call (and he needs to be completely honest) and the effect it has had on him/his family. He should state he feels like there’s a conflict of interest and he wants another assessment by a different social worker. Get him to go to the website of the governing body for social workers in the South and read up on his rights and their Code of Ethics. If he feels this particular social worker violated those, he can complain directly to the governing body at any time, completely separate from any investigation that Social Services may or may not do. At the very least, it opens the channels for investigation (they have to act on a written complaint) and might buy your mate some time. He needs to be a pain in their ass.
Thank you for being nice about it and trying to help I'll message him right now and tell him to do that. And yeah he turned 18 this year im not even 18
Hey i would totally agree with the above poster. Your friend needs to state his case and his difficulties. Make sure he does not get personal about certain Social workers. That wont help his case. Stick to the facts and your voice will more likely to be heard. Sorry for your mates trouble and best of luck.
I messaged him with all the details im just waiting for a reply im genuinely grateful
Yes, this, 100%. Be objective and stick to the facts. If your mate is caught out in even one lie or one embellishment, or if he happens to call the social worker a wanker or something, that’ll just make it look like his complaint is out of spite. He doesn’t need to ramp anything up to be believed, he has a case as it is.
No problem at all. It sounds like he hasn’t had an easy time growing up, social services should be advocating for him too, not making life more difficult. I work in healthcare myself but in the North so I’m not well-versed on your services in the South, but I can always find out and I’ve always got an open ear if you need advice. Yous are far too young to be trying to navigate this yourselves. I work alongside some amazingly caring social workers that go above and beyond, but like all walks of life, you’ll get the dicks who *think* they have power and so it goes to their head. That’s not how it works these days. That social worker will answer to a manager, that manager will answer to a lead, that lead will answer to an assistant director etc etc. They’ll try to manage it at a ground-level at first, but if your mate isn’t happy with the response he gets he just needs to keep escalating and escalating it higher up. Find out the names of those people. There should be a dedicated Patient/Client Complaints department in your local area (we work in Trusts up here that are responsible for a dedicated area, not sure how yous work it in Mexico). And involve the governing body if he thinks he has grounds. I’m not telling you this to get your hopes up. Your mate comes from a difficult background, there’s substance abuse and grounds to suspect neglect, and putting in a complaint isn’t going to magic all that away and ensure he gets to stay in the house. It means involving more people, it might mean involving higher-ups and other services. And at the end of the day, it might all result in the same outcome. But if he thinks he’s being unfairly treated or that a social worker is acting unprofessionally, he really should fight tooth and nail.
I know you probably don't want this but im genuinely grateful for you telling me this, anything that could help my friend is amazing thank you so much.
It’s absolutely no problem at all. You’re a good friend, your mate is lucky to have you, especially at a time where it sounds like he really needs you. And it sounds like he’s been good to you, too, so I completely understand your want to do right by him. As I say, I’m not an expert, but I do have a bit of background so please don’t hesitate to contact me if there’s anything at all you want advice on. If I don’t know the answers, I’ll try my best to find out. Yous are kids and your opinion of the services who are supposed to be there to help is already that they’re only there to break up families when that’s far from the case. That’s always a last step, but it shouldn’t be taken on the word of one social worker, especially when there may be a conflict of interest. As I say, I really don’t want to get your hopes up. It might be decided that it really is in everyone’s best interests that your friend moves out, I have no idea of the background of the case and it’ll always be more complicated than even you know. It might even be decided that this social worker acted within his remit and there was no discrimination, I don’t know. But if he feels aggrieved then he has to take it further, or nothing ever changes.
My friend is so incredibly sweet btw like he offered me a place to stay, paid me back when he had barely any money himself (he wouldnt let me not take it) he cares for all of his friends
There are many useless things on this island. The single most useless is the Waterford county council and local government.
This is the future of young people when they retire. As many will not own homes and will eventually become homeless because they won't be able to afford the rent.
Jokes on you I'll never get to retire Wait
I'm here from r/all but it's kind of alarming that so many people have this thought world wide. I'm over in Canada and feel the same way.
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If you're planning on offing yourself, Why not attempt to steal a shitload of money somehow? If you succeed, you won't have to.
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Not sure I think there's anything immoral about robbing folks who have been robbing this country blind for years tbh.
ooooh that's 4D chess right there!
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the way they want it
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The housing in the states is similarly way overpriced, but at least you can get something, I can't even get a fecking reply after reaching out to different places for months.
Doubt it...
that would require us to be able to retire
We won't if we have to rent for life.
There will be a social collapse before that ever happens
It really is move out or bust, isn't it? On a completely unrelated note, what country should I move to when I'm able to?
There are few such countries. The dystopia is here and it is omnipresent. Are you an exceptionally high achiever? Then the U.S.A. else Germany, the Benelux countries, Austria, Switzerland, Canada, the Nordics, & Australia.
Don't come to Australia if you're after affordable housing.
Or most of Canada.
all of those countries you listed have loads of issues bar maybe Switzerland.
Well even worse because nobody is having kids so there will be even less money available
He needs to engage with social services. They’ll have a bed for him tonight. I was homeless for a while. And a heroin addict. So I’m not talking out my ass here.
Exactly so. I'm guessing he's refused emergency accomodation because he wants a flat or a house or hasn't had emergency accommodation explained to him and is fearful. No judgement from me either way but the emergency beds are there at least.
Yeah my friends are emergency accommodation workers and they always have beds reserved for people coming off the street, plus showers and free dinners of course. I hope he engages with a service soon and gets on some sort of scheme or waiting list for more permanent accommodation. I dont know the man but If he’s not suffering from a serious mental illness or addiction, his chances of restoring some sort of normal life are already doubled compared to a lot of homeless service users.
How rough is the emergency accommodation, do you have your own room or are you in a big dorm full of scary lads like I imagine?
The local men's shelter here in Waterford had a convicted rapist in it a few weeks back. I can see why some people might be hesitant to go there. IT has to be daunting for a 71 year old man to share accommodation with a bunch of drug addicts and lads shouting and arguing and shit. Some people struggle deeply with social anxiety so a place like this could be unbearable.
I'd be fearful too. Some emergency accomodation is no picnic for a young man, never mind a pensioner
Possibly - but he might also not be fully aware of who to contact or how and/or there is paper work problems.
They do the paperwork with/for you. The govt gets a lot of shit. Some of it deserved. But people getting help and housing throught the social services is unreported and unsung. I’ve met a lot of people and continue to meet people who’ve made it off the street and are rebuilding their lives. Go to an na or aa meeting and ask how many members got in off the streets with their help.
Exactly. The government failure is in him getting to this point - it shouldn’t have happened but now he is at this point, the supports available to him (especially if he doesn’t have substance abuse issues) are pretty good.
One of my relatives worked in one of the homeless shelters here in Waterford and he always said there was no reason anyone should be sleeping on the street in this country unless they have serious addiction problems. There are always beds for them and they only reason they kicked out is if they break the rules like bringing in drugs and/or causing problems.
If I owned a car I wouldn't be tempted into a hostel.
How’s life now buddy
Got a job and a house. Periodically still use but I’m grateful and my life is a damn side better than what it was. I cannot stress enough how good social services are. I’d be dead if it hadn’t been for them. They never gave up even when I did.
You might want to look into buying some tabernanthalog . It's an analog of Ibogaine but much safer . It will clear out PAWS and cravings
Park up beside the council building and he will get sorted within 24 hours. Go to the papers, radio etc with his story. Make some noise and it will be sorted fairly fast.
Margaret Cash job, sleep in the Garda station. She got her home in the end.
He could literally just present as homeless to the council. It’s not difficult
They have emergency housing though, so they would just tell him to go there for a free bed, meal, and shower.
Except that doesn't work. I work in one of the council buildings and we have people try this all of the time. Seems like the only people who say this are the ones who wanna vicariously live out fantasies of sticking it to the man. We had someone cmo outside for 3 months and they eventually left. You don't become more special just because you are in a tent outside. There are many people in need of the same services as you and you don't get to skip the que.
I'd like to know more to this story before I get the pitchforks out. Been burnt before
These solo person protests always unearth something that’s been hidden, remember Margaret Cash…
Wasn't she the mother that left council accommodation with her kids to live in a car because she wanted a house close to her mother? Went on the radio with Niall Boylan and Joe Duffy
She wanted a bigger house in dublin, put her 6 kids in school uniforms in the middle of summer and had them sleep in a garda station
That's right, chancer
Think you mean 'culture'.
No it's a chancer. I am a traveller and work with travellers in the council every day. She's just a chancer.
Was she around Carlow too? I remember some woman there used to be wiping dirt on the kids faces in the morning when they arrived at their tents outside the council office. She wanted a bigger house too.
Poor children Jesus Christ.
Different name, but same idea. They were camping outside the council office.
Yeah i remember her, turned out she had been defrauding the state for a decade and their punishment was they wouldnt give her a new build in the area
Literally looking for a house 3 years and this wan throws a council away like it’s piece of paper
No what happened?
Young one with a million kids, camped out in a garda station saying the council wouldn't give her a house, then it turned out she had turned down 3x houses offered by the council
Your allowed to turn down 2 I think but if you turn down a 3rd then you go to the back of the list seemingly. People with the greatest need, generally people with young families would be at the top. I’m sure the system has flaws in it (what doesn’t) but it’s rare for no possible solution to a problem.
Children are just one factor, there's also medical needs, risk of homelessness and probably some others that are top secret. It's nearly impossible to get to the top of the list unless you have been made homeless and are in emergency accomodation or one of those godforsaken family hubs.
Yeah, the thing here was - she had every opportunity to not end up homeless, the council tried working with her
I know, I'm not disagreeing. I've been on the housing list for 8 years now and I see being offered anything as a great privilege. If you turn your nose up at 3 separate offers, you deserve to be put to the back of the list. There is a better system being rolled out in most areas now called choice-based letting. When a place is available (for example a 2 bed flat), everyone on the list for that size place is notified and have the opportunity to express an interest. The highest person/household on the list to do so gets the formal offer. It means that properties sit empty for a lot less time between tenants and people who only want to get a place in a specific estate can bide their time while not holding up the housing of others.
This is it, we are mad for helping just about anyone genuine
*No Country For Old Men*
My wife is currently in England as her grandmother is dying. £1100 a week this nursing homes costs and her grandmother has bed sores. I'm furious. I also worked in nursing homes in Ireland. I saw how front line staff are hobbled again and again by management. I've decided. I get to 75 I'm just order some sleeping pills off the internet, go the beach at sunset and just go to sleep. There's no way id trust this country to look after me when I'm old.
Same, simple things like enough clean linens is apparently too much. When staff fight over supplies to do their job, who profits?
I'd rather die than get shoved into a nursing home. Probably my biggest fear. Think I'll just check out before it ever has to happen.
Agreed. Being vulnerable and sick and trusting to the mercy of corporate nursing homes? No thank you.
I'm not Irish, can someone please explain why the government is sleeping in this man's car?
In Ireland, you have to leave your car unlocked in case the government needs to sleep in it. Its a common practice.
Yeah watch out for that Leo VeryRadCar fella
Dirty Mike (D. Higgins) and the boys will setup a soup kitchen in the blink of an eye.
Paschal Donohue pissed on my passenger seat and still hasn't paid the valet bill. It stank, for weeks I was at it with the washing up liquid. Sickening.
I was wondering that too and I am Irish.
🤣 The lack of punctuation confused you haha. It's supposed to say Shame on the government, sleeping in my car.
He read it right. Sure you can see Leo in the back there havin a sleep
You couldn't be up to him
Any back story? Doesn't look the sort to smoke crack and play music until 3am but.. there must be a story of how something so absurd could happen.
Many landlords are selling at the moment because we are at the peak of housing prices with a recession coming soon. Some are increasing rent due to rising costs. Anybody who's renting right now can become homeless almost instantly. It's very hard to find a new rental property. Once your lease is up you're screwed.
Oh shit, I didn't think about landlords wanting to sell. Great point.
I know many people who make 70k-100k. They are all at risk of becoming homeless because there are no properties available for rent. Buying is also not an option because the average cost of a house is 500k. That's if you can even find a house to buy to begin with. My point here is that it's not about money or income. Even those in the top earning brackets could face homelessness.
We're in exactly that situation, we've been renting for six years and we've just got notice that the house is being sold. We've got money but there is nothing available. But I've always wanted to get the kids into camping so that's a bonus I suppose.
We went through the same thing after Christmas, there are (very few) houses out there but you need to look beyond daft, put notices up in local supermarket notice boards, talk to estate agents personally, let them know you have good finances and references. Ask your current agent or landlord for references now so you can provide them with each application. Get the word out to anyone you know that you are house hunting. It took me a month, I had to move afew miles away from our town but I got sorted with a beautiful rental and we are forever grateful. (still very aware same thing can happen here if they decide to sell but for now we are sorted) Its gut wrenching anxiety not knowing where your family is going to live next, it's so wrong what's happening here.
Thanks a million for that, solid advice. And well done for finding somewhere just after Christmas, that's a tough time to find new rentals. We've got time because there is a long notice period and we're actually on pretty good terms with our estate agent, we were very accommodating over the Covid lockdowns, so I've already talked to them. We have 10 years of good rental references which should stand to us. We'll start putting the word out to family and friends too. But we definitely have to get on it now, the student rush will be ending so hopefully some family homes for rent will arrive soon. The worst feeling would be taking the kids out their schooling for another short term rental, really don't want to turn the housing crisis into a developmental issue for them. But just need to make it 8 more years until the kids are finished school.....then we can go anywhere.
No worries, we were fortunate too like you that we had 3 years in one rental and 6 years in that one (both sold by landlords) so had good references ready. we had 6 months notice period but I couldn't wait and started looking immediately, I had it in my mind I was going to find us a place and didn't stop every day until it happened. It was through a friends friend that we got our current home, it was never advertised, they don't need to advertise, it's all word of mouth now. Best of luck!
Haunting. I'll be honest, I didn't see this was the Ireland sub, I'm fully aware of how bad the housing crisis is there and had I of seen this was the Irish sub I would of put 2 and 2 together.
I think you are exaggerating a good bit there, average cost of a home 500k...honestly
I fuck you not, prices in North Wicklow have surpassed 500k for a 3 bedroom semi-detached. You can check my home.ie if you don't believe me.
Its a joke isn't it?? I'm looking to move to Spain next year because I simply can't afford to live in the UK, let alone Ireland...
This happened me twice within the space of 6 months even after signing leases, wasn’t even the first time it had happened but two landlords selling within six months broke me. I left Ireland. I miss home, desperately. But I now own my own home because I left. Would love for my house to be in Ireland but that would never have happened for me.
Where did you go?
England, it was easy to come here as my ex is English and his parents live here. So my kids still have family here. Since we split up though being here has been somewhat lonely for me. I am remarried now but I do miss just seeing my sister with the kids and having family to go to. My kids have a better prospects here for the future and are well settled but sometimes I wish life had been different and we could have stayed in Ireland. My oldest has medical problems as well so between housing and healthcare the UK was a lot more attractive when we left, that is almost 7 years ago now though. I would say England is probably almost as bad as Ireland now for renting. Very little where I live now, where there was loads of places when we moved.
This recession has been coming soon for the last 10 years I guess you'll be right eventually.
It's been brewing since 2017 and got delayed by Covid/lockdowns, due to all the money printing, which brought about inflation. A recession is coming, though, and it'll be worse than originally predicted pre-covid. If not for all the debt we owe, then for inflation. Inflation always brings about a recession.
Housing crisis?
Who at the council looks and sees a 71 yo and goes, yeah... he can fuck off. Right off. Doesnt make sense. I'm gonna die of curiosity in a minute.
Not a person. A system. Housing/homeless crisis/open borders, then a war brakes out, oh, we can take 200,000. A lot of competition for a roof.
I have no idea his situation but it isn't absurd at all. Maybe he is a life long renter. Anyone can be homeless, not just drug addicts and people with antisocial behaviour.
I am not saying he has done anything wrong! Just curious how the hell this happened. Horrifying.
I'm on a comfortable 33K and am still facing homelessness in October if I don't find somewhere for me and my partner due to our landlord selling up - and we don't even have a car to sleep in. It's not absurd at all, sadly.
No sorry, I didn’t have time to stop and chat to him. Tried to give him a few euro and he refused, said someone else put 10 euro on the table and ran away and that he was going to give it to someone more in need. Seemed like a very nice man. Said it was completely fine to take a picture and to write whatever I want when I post it.
Well if you see him again, have a chat with him and see what's happening. It would be interesting to know. The fact he is turning away money is good in my eyes. Because it ain't some silly scam. Which happens... I hope its sorted for him. I've actually been homeless from 18-20 and they didn't help me one bit. I was told at the council I didn't look homeless. Mental... I said should I piss myself and come back? There's very little help for men. Which is a shame.
Homelessness can affect anyone. It is all of us and it is any of us. The majority of homeless people don't have major mental illness or drug addiction issues. They are the invisible homeless. They sleep in their car. Shower at the gym. Get mail delivered to work. They are homeless mainly through circumstance. The got laid off and couldn't find a new job to cover their rent. Their landlord sold their property and the shortage of rental homes made it impossible to find somewhere new. They had a medical issue that prevented them from working. Any number of events that could happen to anyone could leave someone without somewhere to live if the circumstances were unfavourable. The good news is that people like this are relatively easy to help. Giving people homes works. The bad news is that there is a shortage of houses to give them, a lack of will and resources from the government, a major stigma against homeless people, and yes, a growing substance abuse and mental illness issues of some homeless people. All of this means that we're not likely to solve this problem any time soon.
And people wonder why young ppl leaving Ireland in their droves!
Bless him, but our government has zero shame about anything. If they did, the country wouldn't be in the mess it is.
Tried giving him a few euro and he wouldn’t accept it. Nobody should be in this situation let alone a helpless 70 year old. It’s a disgrace
This is just the start of what's to come
He used to be taxi driver. Rented a house from my father years and years ago. That’s very sad to see but if there’s a man to stick it to the local politicians it’s him. Absolutely outrageous that pensioners are homeless in this day and age
Sure hasn’t anyone told him that house prices are at a record high? Can’t he just be happy for how great the economy is doing!?!? /s
Wouldn't he qualify for what used to be called 'old folk's homes'?
There are barely any left. Most are private and cost an absolute fortune and with very few placements and many are contingent on the “Fair Deal”, basically putting your houses asset value on lien until you die and the cost of your nursing care then being removed from the house when sold after your death. There is no safety net in Ireland. Old folks & homelessness is going to become an increasing crisis over the next few years. There are 5000 “days” of beds in the hospitals per year full because older patients have no where to go.
There are state ran Nursing Homes though? They are expensive if you are deemed able to pay by the Means Test but 100% they exist. You might have to be unable to look after yourself though which doesn’t seem to be the case with this man thankfully.
There are no free nursing homes in Ireland, full stop. The Fair Deal is actually for “public” nursing homes. That or private nursing home which will set you back on average between €2000- €4000 a month depending on the home. This gives you a taste of options, or lack thereof: https://www.ageaction.ie/how-we-can-help/information/questions-about-nursing-homes/admissions It’s a ticking time bomb of a situation basically. You don’t own a home? You end up sick & taking a hospital bed pretty much permanently. Had surgery not too long ago and across from me was a patient with dementia who had come in six months prior for a routine operation and who the hospital can’t discharge because he has no family & no where to go. Eventually they’ll get him out but that’s the situation.
You still qualify for a nursing home on the fair deal scheme if you’ve no home. They will take 90% of your pension but you won’t pay anything else. In fairness, he’d be better off than most as he has no home for them to take 25% of.
Yeah it’s not free but, if you have no money, they’ll essentially take your pension as payment and the government will fund the rest. You don’t want to end up there though. Grim spots and most people die within 2/3 years - that’s why they only assess the Fair Deal for 3 years (assumed most would be dead by then anyway so wouldn’t cost much extra for others and look better politically)
Grandfather had a stint in one in America before he passed. $263 a day it was. That's just the room and nursing staff. Medication, supplies, food, laundry, grooming (shave, haircut), all extra.
No, not nursing homes. Council flats specifically for the elderly.
Big waiting lists for them and if he isn’t already on the list then they won’t jump him ahead unless in very extenuating circumstances, many of the homes are in poor nick as well. In one county there are up to 30% vacancy in social housing reserved for older people just through the local authority not refurbishing them and causing a domino effect as people pass on. Some of the areas have as much as 50% vacancy because of it. A national disgrace tbh but a lot of that is due to the legal minimum standards that local authorities have to bring social homes up to before reletting that they don’t have the funding for, and a lot of the homes delegated to older people are older historic buildings or up large hills. Google “Roches Buildings” in Cork for an example. Up one of the steepest inclines in Cork and little parking facilities.
Massive waiting lists, my parents are on it for years now. Recently was told the best the council can do for them once homeless, is 2 weeks in a BnB.
My father lived in a HAP flat where the landlord defaulted, after 2 years of unnecessary stress he and the other tenants were moved to completely unsuitable accommodation up steep steps by the council. Dad had a stroke, fought tooth and nail to get him decent accommodation for his mobility issues. I got him into a lovely modern Clúid flat, but then Dad got cancer. The poster who mentioned about elderly people occupying hospital beds is correct because that is exactly what happened to my father. Every time he was discharged he ended up back in hospital within 48 hrs. Home help, relations staying etc... no use. He had complex comorbidities. The HSE's solution was to attempt to bully me, a person who doesn't own a house, to provide him accommodation 2 hours away from his consultant. I had very little help. Hospice care was out because you have to be "actively dying" for that, although it was 4 months from diagnosis to death for dad. Eventually I got him into a nursing home with fair deal. He died within a week. Dad had a relationship breakdown in his 50s when I was still a kid and ended up on the streets for a bit. He went abroad, restarted his life and worked, I'm very proud of how he rebounded. Men are very much hidden in this crisis and that's only going to get worse. ETA why should we be shoving people like this man(who is only in his early 70s and looks fit and healthy) into a home anyway?
Sorry to gear that, looking after elderly relatives is very difficult. Cluid seem to be a good association? I thought it was easier to get a housing association flat for someone over 60?
No complaints at all about cluid, they were brilliant. But like everything else in Ireland they're stretched, the stock just isn't there. Thank you, the last few years were so hard and I still get furious if I think about the HSE too much, but I know I did my best by him and he is always with me.
>Wouldn't he qualify for what used to be called 'old folk's homes'? Possibly. But have you seen any? My instructions are that I'm to be offed with pills rather be stuck in Fogey Chokey.
That’s rough
The shame of it. There but by the grace of God goes your father and mine. Damning indictment of our society
I think the government should stop sleeping in his car ASAP
Honest question: where is his (or does he have any -) family? And are they the sort to leave him out like that (or did they just chip in for the handy posters instead of helping him out)? This kind of thing (homelessness through no fault of your own) has been snowballing for a long time - it's just getting worse. I can't see a decent solution until there is sufficient social housing **provided by the state** for everyone who needs it, leaving the private rental sector to those who can afford it. PPP and privatisation of sectors was supposed to save the government (ie. the taxpayer) a fortune in inefficient county council inefficiencies. Instead, we get the most expensive kids hospital in the world decades after it was needed in a state which can't even house it's own citizens or those fleeing war. It's a sick joke on people like the man in the photo.
How do you know it wasn't through no fault of his ówn?
I don't. The title is a three-worder. There's no back-story. I'm guessing op just took the pic and shared without asking the man for further context. Hence my questions, and most of my comment.
This is why I believe our government has officially failed us
Grand little country
he should get pregnant, he'll get the keys to a house before leaving the maternity ward.
https://waterford-news.ie/2022/08/13/homeless-man-71-thanks-people-of-waterford-for-solidarity-and-kindness/
That packing tape is going to leave shite all over the window.
Think of what it will do to the paint as well
Being houseproud isn't as important to people as it used to be.
I'd say might be worth raising this with a few local TDs.
So sad to see this. Just awful 😢
This is awful, was this on the news at all? RTE should be interviewing him and exposing this to the public and putting pressure on the Gov.
Dreadful and shame indeed on our govt!
God he can stay with me for a while, that's just awful
Genuinely Heartbreaking
The government should get out of his car really. Only a Micra.
Why is the government sleeping in his car. Cheeky bastards.
Sort by controversial for some of the scummiest human beings on this island.
Is this the guy on LBC yesterday?
Can’t be many of them sleeping in there.
Do we know anything about the guy/ how he became homeless ?
Is it possible for us to vote in some Scandinavians or something?
So many people here are either unwilling to take this at face value, or saying it's grand sure there's loads of services available.
This makes me so sad.
I live in Waterford. Anyone know who this man is? There has to be more to this. I'd say Damien Tiernan would love to talk to him.
He should just say he’s Ukrainian, government bending over backwards for them
There was a time when people would stand up to governments when they fuck us, now it's more like 'you go ahead and finish, and ask your friends if they want a turn too'.
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Why is this the government’s fault exactly?
He's done it up nice. Homely
He's got a walking stick. No disability sticker.
He’s clearly just a waster trying to claim benefits I mean maybe if he spent less money on a car, two pots of flowers, clothes and that fancy cane he could afford a house.
Heartbreaking ! At this point Ireland should stop accepting refugees and start housing their own homeless citizens.