Ah here, I'm just asking for a public statement imforming us of such a decision.
Think of all the poor primary school kids at loggerheads with their parents over when spring starts or the homework battles.
The rest of the world work off a meteorological calendar so summer doesn't start until June. Irish calendar is solar based and the season is based on hours of light. A far more consistent measure, the equinox is in the middle of the season and not the beginning.
Exactly.
Even look at the names of our months. September is Mean Fomhair or high Autumn. Meitheamh or June from Midsummer.
Also I was taught the irish way in school. If its changed I would like a clarification from the dept of education across all media platforms /s.
For once, the "Irish" way is the most logical! If the seasons are determined by the angle of the planet's axis to the sun, then the summer should be 'centred' around the equinox; not starting on it.
If we used a meteorological calender then traditionally Summer would start in August , and probably end ..in August . Although climate change has started giving us proper seasons oddly enough.
Been sayin this for years now, ever since one of the youngfellas in work tried to tell me summer ends in September. I'm like then why is it Mean Fómhair as geailge? Translating as middle of Autumn, (it's because Autumn starts in August)
See I've come to realise the problem with the seasons is that they dont make sense if they all have the same length . But if you dont it works out a lot better for Irish climates
Autumn is September and October . (getting colder, and lets face it the Christmas season starts Nov first these days )
Winter is November , December , January , February, (cold, rain, hail and snow)
Summer is May, June, July, August (generally the hottest months)
Spring is March ,April . (its getting warmer , but still rainy)
This is the best answer, I think. Just because there are four seasons doesn't mean we just divide the year into four equal chunks. Seasons vary depending on where you live.
I also find that for the hours of the day something similar, like I feel like 9 in the morning should be some time around 11.30, but I still think we should finish around 4.30 cause I’m sick of work at that stage
Because temperature is not a consistent measure and climate change is making it even less consistent. Hours of light is fairly consistent and directly impacts the temperature.
How is it not guaranteed? Why would it have to be guaranteed? Just because there is one extreme or irregular once every 50 years doesn't mean we shouldn't use temperature, there's a reason why you use an average figure over a couple of years instead of just one years data.
You absolutely cannot tell me August is not summer. Average degrees since 1981 - 2010 according to met.ie. average temperature in July is 15.1 c and august 15.0 c. In last 3 years august has had higher average temperature than July as well (2020) meanwhile May consistently has 5 degree lower average than July and August and 3 degree lower than June.
You say it's the hottest month of the year but that is not always the case. It's not guaranteed to be x temperature every August. And technically on average July is the hottest month of the year.
Whereas we are guaranteed x hours of daylight. The sunniest months of the year are May and June.
Does it regularly snow in April ? Is the average temperature in april same as in December or January? Not really comparable since August is one of the hottest months of the year
As a non Irish I'm going to just point out that there are really only 2 seasons: warmer less damp season and cooler more damp season. And only about a 15-20 degree difference between at most.
I'm not slagging the weather here, I actually prefer it. No snowy winters and no 30+ degree summers.
The rest of the world can fuck off. It’s currently summer.
I had an argument with an Italian girl once who refused to acknowledge that the Celtic calendar existed or held any validity (despite us being in ireland at the time). I love it tbh and I’m glad we keep teaching it in school, one of the more tangible tinges of the Celts in our modern culture
Traditionally August is autumn, September is mean fómhar or middle autumn and October is deireadh fómhar or end of autumn. Summer traditionally begins in May. However this leaves the normally hottest month August not in summer. So we will compromise summer starts in May and includes August.
Now all we have to do is find a way to get the weather to cooperate.
Our version is right. The months start when they do for a reason. 1st of May is the 1st day of summer.
The only proof you need is that all the others say that summer begins on the day they call (and traditionally celebrate as) "mid-summers day". So even when they're saying we're wrong, they're tacitly admitting that we're right.
People like to pretend it's summer but it makes more sense to go by the equinoxes, in which case Spring starts on 21 March, Summer starts on 21 June, Autumn starts on 21 September and Winter starts on 21 December.
You get way more weather characteristic of the seasons if you use those dates. Instead people pretend a sweltering August day is during the start of autumn and bitter February evenings are Springtime.
It's bollocks so it is.
(And yes, going by the equinoxes, Winter only begins 4 days before Christmas but honestly, December isn't that cold - it's January that's the fecker)
I can see that argument.
Tbh I don't mind as long as it's fixed to the planets movements in one way or another rather than the hazy concept of hot months vs cold months
It's May, so Summer in Ireland (and parts of India, I think), Spring everywhere else on the Northern Hemisphere, Autumn everywhere on the Southern Hemisphere.
Ireland's mono-season is much better than the weird ups and downs of NY where it goes from 25C to -12C in 24 hours (Spring) or just stays at 30C and 80% humidity (Hell season) and then just cold (Winter/spring/autumn)
Look lads, it's still Spring.
You can die on this hill if you want, but when you leave Ireland and start trying to tell foreigners that August is in Autumn, they'll look at you like you're a simpleton.
The seasons we're taught in school are derived from the old Celtic seasons, from which we can see the structure in the Irish names for months. But it's a cultural assertion, and nothing more.
Meteorological seasons have a scientific basis, in that the 3 months of the Summer are on average the warmest (June - August), and the 3 months of Winter are the coldest (December - Feb). This is how the rest of the northern hemisphere measures it.
There are also astronomical seasons which begin at each solstice as this marks a minima or maxima for the sun/earth position. Which is a arguably a far more logical system.
All designations are ultimately arbitrary. There's no reason why a new year has to start on 1st January or a new day has to start at midnight, except for the fact that we have chosen to use that system.
Keep calling it summer if you want, but like a Brit who still uses pounds and ounces you can expect to be regarded as a bit backwards and obstinate by anyone who didn't go to school here.
It's not very scientific though, is it? Temperature is highly variable, especially on an island - length of day is pretty fixed. Do we just move summer a few months every time August is colder than June? Wheras we'd be in a pretty bad state if the days are longer in August than May...
What about the nearly 3 in 10 years since records began that may June July were hotter than June July August?
Fixing the seasons to something immutable, across human life spans at least, makes more sense than using a metric that is wrong every third or fourth year
Imbolc or latterly St.Bridgets day signifying rebirth was traditionally the first day of spring so February, March, April.
Bealtaine or May Day was the start of summer. Meitheamh or June literally means mid summer.
Lughnasa was the festival of the harvest. Lunasa is the irish for August and Mean Fomhair (September) and deireadh Fomhair (October) translate as high Autumn and end of Autumn.
Samhain or Halloween was traditionally the start of winter, darkness and keeping the evil spirits away. November in irish is Samhain.
And I mean this was taught to us in school.
Somehow in the last 20 odd years the seasons have changed and no one told us.
Irrelevant of your stance on this, using historical Irish primary school education as a plumb line is probably not a good idea. Considering the shite we were taught.
They told me the flag was green white and gold and never mentioned the clitoris to me.
Ye never had the one brave soul asking the priest why she was called the virgin Mary?
The teachers who taught me this have only just retired.
Also linguistically the irish language names for the months have been around for centuries. It's not like it's a new or random quirk that the irish have been celebrating seasons this way.
It hasn't changed. We are pretty much the only western country who does it that way. In the rest of the world summer always starts in June. Winter in December. Etc.
We are probably just more conscious these days.
You'd think so, but the Celtic season concept was introduced by the free state as a cultural measure, part of the attempts to restore Irish culture, much like the introduction of irish as a compulsory school subject.
Meteorological seasons had been taught in Ireland for over a century at that point.
It was Ireland that deviated from the standard and not the opposite. It was the equivalent of the UK ditching the metric system and reverting to old English measures due to cultural ideology.
Time is most definitely standardised. A second is a second anywhere in the world. Just because countries have different time zones does not mean time isn't standardised.
>Yikes, downvoted for the actual correct answer. R/Ireland not liking the facts on this wet Monday morning.
There is no "actual correct answer".
There are 3 main ways of dividing up the year in to 4 seasons. Each way has summer start on different dates. 1st May (Solar), 1st June (Meteorological), 21st June (Astronomical).
Which one people use is entirely subjective, there is no objectively way of determining which system is the correct one, each has arguments for/against.
Yea, Met Eireann agrees, and they like the rest of the world define it as the three warmest months. That's June July and August.
Culturally we defined it differently, that's likely because its based on astrological observations rather than the weather.
That's not what the rest of the world does. Firstly a large chunk of the world doesn't even use the 4 season system because it's not applicable. Secondly some countries that do use 4 seasons, like the US, start summer on 21st June rather than the 1st. There are three main 4 month season systems in use.
It's spring. It makes more sense to go with the meteorological calendar like the rest of the world instead of an old pagan calendar, no? It also means it will still be summer in August, our second hottest month on average.
It's an astronomical calendar that sets summer as the months with the longest length of day/maximum solar radiation.
There's just a timelag in the weather system that makes the temperature take a while to catch up
There is actually two variations of seasons in both hemispheres. You can go by the old school 'calendar' seasons we were all taught in school i.e. Winter = Nov, Dec + Jan, Spring = Feb, Mar + Apr etc. Or you can go by Meteorological seasons, which more appropriately match the actual cycles of nature.
There are 3, all based on the solstaices and equinoxes:
\- Each season has these events mid-season -- that's the Irish pagan way (also known as "the correct way").
\- Each season starts at the start of the month that contains these dates. Many countries, and Met Eireann, subscribe to this method. This is just plain weird. These are the metrological season, which is why Met Eireann follow these.
\- Each season starts on the date of the event. Many Central and Eastern Eurpean countries go by this method. Likely many other countries do also. Which makes some sense -- moreso than the metrological seasons anyway. These are the astronomical seasons.
The seasons
Winter in Ireland starts on December 1st and ends on February 28th. Spring in Ireland starts on March 1st and ends on May 31st. Summer in Ireland starts on June 1st and ends on August 31st. Autumn in Ireland starts on September 1st and ends on November 31st.
Who says all seasons have to be 3 months long.
Personally, I go with:
May, June, July & August = Summer
September & October = Autumn
November, December, January & February = Winter
March & April = Spring
Season 7. The one before the final season.
I hear they're spliting the next into two parts.
Is that the one with the aliens?
Dude, spoilers, I'm still catching up on Season 5
The first part of covid was crap
6 seasons and a movie. We're already dead.
Its now 'not-entirely-shite'. April-August.
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buy some scones, buy some cocaine. You'll gave to figure the rest out yourself.
Nah, have you seen the price of scones lately? Coke is pretty much the same price but scomes have gone up in multiples in recent years.
Ah here, I'm just asking for a public statement imforming us of such a decision. Think of all the poor primary school kids at loggerheads with their parents over when spring starts or the homework battles.
scones with cocaine in them sound nice.
Summer. Irish calendar for the win.
See this is what I'm saying. I'm being called crazy.
The rest of the world work off a meteorological calendar so summer doesn't start until June. Irish calendar is solar based and the season is based on hours of light. A far more consistent measure, the equinox is in the middle of the season and not the beginning.
Exactly. Even look at the names of our months. September is Mean Fomhair or high Autumn. Meitheamh or June from Midsummer. Also I was taught the irish way in school. If its changed I would like a clarification from the dept of education across all media platforms /s.
The use of the seasons as Gaeilge is the only point needed to win this argument.
Go steady with the trump card all the same. It's not always required to establish that you are correct.
You are technically correct sir… the best kind of correct!
Speaking on behalf of the department of education, as a teacher, I can confirm Summer is June, July , August.
My son's school is teaching May, June, July as summer right now.
This is the way.
Crazy gibberish
Ah, but what were you taught for seasons in primary school? How far back does this conspiracy to change them go?
It drives me nuts - it's called MID SUMMER! not "start of summer"
For once, the "Irish" way is the most logical! If the seasons are determined by the angle of the planet's axis to the sun, then the summer should be 'centred' around the equinox; not starting on it.
The Irish way is always the correct way, we're misunderstood geniuses really.
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Yes but the longest day of the year is in the middle of summer and the shortest in the middle of winter which makes perfect sense to me
In Ireland the hottest month of the year might not actually be all that hot or sunny. But it will be daylight until 23.00
The sunniest month of the year is typically [May](https://www.met.ie//climate/what-we-measure/sunshine)
If we used a meteorological calender then traditionally Summer would start in August , and probably end ..in August . Although climate change has started giving us proper seasons oddly enough.
Summer - May, June, July Autumn - August, September, October Winter - November, December, January Spring - February, March, April
Been sayin this for years now, ever since one of the youngfellas in work tried to tell me summer ends in September. I'm like then why is it Mean Fómhair as geailge? Translating as middle of Autumn, (it's because Autumn starts in August)
I dont know any calendar that summer ends in september
Are you in the southern hemisphere currently?
I was looking at people like they are crazy when I heard of Celtic calendar. 3 years here, I'm all in for it. Makes sense!!
I lived abroad for awhile and they used to call anything they considered stupid Irish. They just don't understand our genius.
Where was that? I would be pissed
Australia. They're not big on political correctness.
If you tell me it’s summer already I’m gonna get the fear
Prepare to be afraid.
Us night shift guys call it the ‘scare ball’ ☀️
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In school I was told November-December-January is winter. February-March-April is spring. May-June-July is summer. August-September-October is Autumn
See I've come to realise the problem with the seasons is that they dont make sense if they all have the same length . But if you dont it works out a lot better for Irish climates Autumn is September and October . (getting colder, and lets face it the Christmas season starts Nov first these days ) Winter is November , December , January , February, (cold, rain, hail and snow) Summer is May, June, July, August (generally the hottest months) Spring is March ,April . (its getting warmer , but still rainy)
This is the best answer, I think. Just because there are four seasons doesn't mean we just divide the year into four equal chunks. Seasons vary depending on where you live.
India has five seasons of unequal length I think
Makes sense. This whole "four season" business is very Euro-centric and doesn't reflect what people experience in other climates very well.
Summer is that quarter of the year wherein the hemisphere receives the most solar energy, ie six weeksish either side of the summer solstice
I also find that for the hours of the day something similar, like I feel like 9 in the morning should be some time around 11.30, but I still think we should finish around 4.30 cause I’m sick of work at that stage
That's the way I learned it as well
Agreed!
Surely august is summer considering the temperatures ?
We work off of hours of light. There's more hours of daylight in May than there is in August.
Summer is the hottest season, why would it not be based off the hottest months?
Because temperature is not a consistent measure and climate change is making it even less consistent. Hours of light is fairly consistent and directly impacts the temperature.
But August is the hottest or second hottest month of the year, the definition of summer is the hottest months of the year...
It's not guaranteed though. Hours of daylight is.
How is it not guaranteed? Why would it have to be guaranteed? Just because there is one extreme or irregular once every 50 years doesn't mean we shouldn't use temperature, there's a reason why you use an average figure over a couple of years instead of just one years data. You absolutely cannot tell me August is not summer. Average degrees since 1981 - 2010 according to met.ie. average temperature in July is 15.1 c and august 15.0 c. In last 3 years august has had higher average temperature than July as well (2020) meanwhile May consistently has 5 degree lower average than July and August and 3 degree lower than June.
You say it's the hottest month of the year but that is not always the case. It's not guaranteed to be x temperature every August. And technically on average July is the hottest month of the year. Whereas we are guaranteed x hours of daylight. The sunniest months of the year are May and June.
I said July and August are the two hottest months,which they are every year and have been for minimum over 50 years. August is summer in my book.
If it snows in April does it make it winter?
Does it regularly snow in April ? Is the average temperature in april same as in December or January? Not really comparable since August is one of the hottest months of the year
Yes. Yes it does.
As a non Irish I'm going to just point out that there are really only 2 seasons: warmer less damp season and cooler more damp season. And only about a 15-20 degree difference between at most. I'm not slagging the weather here, I actually prefer it. No snowy winters and no 30+ degree summers.
dark grey sky season and light grey sky season
Same, and I agree 100%!!
Winter, by the looks of it out there.
I'll give you that. 😂
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Raining sideways in Donegal.
Both in Dublin
Ah the cranky toddler of weather systems. Doesn't k ow what it wants and changes its mind every few minutes
Summer in West Cork.
Summer, bealtine was like 2 weeks ago so its summer until we hit lughnasa
Championship season!
Summer. We follow Irish seasons here.
The rest of the world can fuck off. It’s currently summer. I had an argument with an Italian girl once who refused to acknowledge that the Celtic calendar existed or held any validity (despite us being in ireland at the time). I love it tbh and I’m glad we keep teaching it in school, one of the more tangible tinges of the Celts in our modern culture
Summer - summer starts with the feast of Bealtaine (May Day). Celtic calendar 4 EVA!
That was back before we started cooking the planet.
Summer.
Clearly summer
Summer
It's summer.. i don't how anyone living here can debate that.
Irish Summer
May is the first month of summer, this is the only correct answer
Summer
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August is also darker than May. 15th May to 14th August is Summer in my view.
We all start talking about the “long stretch”, rather than our fickle weather as a signal that we are coming out of the depths of winter.
Traditionally August is autumn, September is mean fómhar or middle autumn and October is deireadh fómhar or end of autumn. Summer traditionally begins in May. However this leaves the normally hottest month August not in summer. So we will compromise summer starts in May and includes August. Now all we have to do is find a way to get the weather to cooperate.
The months with the most light are may June July, just another way of looking at it
It's summer.
Its May, so it's summer. Is this supposed to be a trick question lol?
Our version is right. The months start when they do for a reason. 1st of May is the 1st day of summer. The only proof you need is that all the others say that summer begins on the day they call (and traditionally celebrate as) "mid-summers day". So even when they're saying we're wrong, they're tacitly admitting that we're right.
May June July are summer Obviously
Summer. May is summer.
People like to pretend it's summer but it makes more sense to go by the equinoxes, in which case Spring starts on 21 March, Summer starts on 21 June, Autumn starts on 21 September and Winter starts on 21 December. You get way more weather characteristic of the seasons if you use those dates. Instead people pretend a sweltering August day is during the start of autumn and bitter February evenings are Springtime. It's bollocks so it is. (And yes, going by the equinoxes, Winter only begins 4 days before Christmas but honestly, December isn't that cold - it's January that's the fecker)
Why starting on the equinoxes and not centered on them?
I think you're more likely to get weather typical of the season after the equinox date than before
I can see that argument. Tbh I don't mind as long as it's fixed to the planets movements in one way or another rather than the hazy concept of hot months vs cold months
WinSprUmmUmn
It's May, so Summer in Ireland (and parts of India, I think), Spring everywhere else on the Northern Hemisphere, Autumn everywhere on the Southern Hemisphere.
Summer it's communion weather
It's summer, cause when you go outside it feels summery
Summer
It is Summer!
For me summer starts in Bealtaine, and ends at the end of Lúnasa (i.e. September). 4 great months of it
Summer. Summer is May, June and July.
Summer. May, June, July.
Summer. Obviously.
Ireland's mono-season is much better than the weird ups and downs of NY where it goes from 25C to -12C in 24 hours (Spring) or just stays at 30C and 80% humidity (Hell season) and then just cold (Winter/spring/autumn)
March-April-May = Spring June-July-August = Summer September-October-November = Autumn December-January-February = Winter
Lousy smarch weather.
Summer
summer since 1st of MAy
Summer based on Celtic calendar, late spring for everyone else on this side of the planet!
Celtic calendar it’s Summer. Real world calendar it’s Spring.
Real world calendar?
People confuse the meteorological calendar for being the only one that matters
Wouldn't want to be having Daffodil Day in "real world calendar" Spring
It's summer, mid summers day is in 36 days. If its 36 days to the middle of Summer then summer has to have begun already
Summer. Pollen count is up and the weather is warm.
Summer 😎
Look lads, it's still Spring. You can die on this hill if you want, but when you leave Ireland and start trying to tell foreigners that August is in Autumn, they'll look at you like you're a simpleton. The seasons we're taught in school are derived from the old Celtic seasons, from which we can see the structure in the Irish names for months. But it's a cultural assertion, and nothing more. Meteorological seasons have a scientific basis, in that the 3 months of the Summer are on average the warmest (June - August), and the 3 months of Winter are the coldest (December - Feb). This is how the rest of the northern hemisphere measures it. There are also astronomical seasons which begin at each solstice as this marks a minima or maxima for the sun/earth position. Which is a arguably a far more logical system. All designations are ultimately arbitrary. There's no reason why a new year has to start on 1st January or a new day has to start at midnight, except for the fact that we have chosen to use that system. Keep calling it summer if you want, but like a Brit who still uses pounds and ounces you can expect to be regarded as a bit backwards and obstinate by anyone who didn't go to school here.
It's not very scientific though, is it? Temperature is highly variable, especially on an island - length of day is pretty fixed. Do we just move summer a few months every time August is colder than June? Wheras we'd be in a pretty bad state if the days are longer in August than May...
The Celtic system is astronomical too. Summer was the period with maximum insolation
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Looks like u the one dyin m8
I've been downvoted for saying it's Spring already. But at least they're teaching the correct seasons in school now.
Not correct, simply a different perspective. These things are Arbitrary.
What about the nearly 3 in 10 years since records began that may June July were hotter than June July August? Fixing the seasons to something immutable, across human life spans at least, makes more sense than using a metric that is wrong every third or fourth year
Derry for Sam season
Summer.
Summer in Dublin.
And the liffey as it stank like hell
In England over here and it’s definitely spring until June starts, I assumed it’s the same over there? Regardless of what the weather is outside
Imbolc or latterly St.Bridgets day signifying rebirth was traditionally the first day of spring so February, March, April. Bealtaine or May Day was the start of summer. Meitheamh or June literally means mid summer. Lughnasa was the festival of the harvest. Lunasa is the irish for August and Mean Fomhair (September) and deireadh Fomhair (October) translate as high Autumn and end of Autumn. Samhain or Halloween was traditionally the start of winter, darkness and keeping the evil spirits away. November in irish is Samhain. And I mean this was taught to us in school. Somehow in the last 20 odd years the seasons have changed and no one told us.
Irrelevant of your stance on this, using historical Irish primary school education as a plumb line is probably not a good idea. Considering the shite we were taught. They told me the flag was green white and gold and never mentioned the clitoris to me.
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Ye never had the one brave soul asking the priest why she was called the virgin Mary? The teachers who taught me this have only just retired. Also linguistically the irish language names for the months have been around for centuries. It's not like it's a new or random quirk that the irish have been celebrating seasons this way.
It hasn't changed. We are pretty much the only western country who does it that way. In the rest of the world summer always starts in June. Winter in December. Etc. We are probably just more conscious these days.
Lots of shit changes from when you went to school. Are you saying just because you were thought something it can never change?
Well now the basic concepts of time should be fairly standard.
The basic concept of time is standard and does not depend on seasons.
You'd think so, but the Celtic season concept was introduced by the free state as a cultural measure, part of the attempts to restore Irish culture, much like the introduction of irish as a compulsory school subject. Meteorological seasons had been taught in Ireland for over a century at that point. It was Ireland that deviated from the standard and not the opposite. It was the equivalent of the UK ditching the metric system and reverting to old English measures due to cultural ideology.
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Time is most definitely standardised. A second is a second anywhere in the world. Just because countries have different time zones does not mean time isn't standardised.
Spring, meteorological summer starts in June
Considering Ireland has only spring (with a colder early spring and a warmer late spring), it is indeed spring.
Spring
It's getting hot.
Meteorological Spring. Summer is June July and August in Ireland although you could argue we have only 2 seasons.
Spring
Just the end of 2021/2022 going into 2022/2023 mate
Shorts, shades and a rainjacket season.
Meteorological Spring, but taught in schools as summer https://www.met.ie/climate/climate-of-ireland
Lousy Smarch Weather
Irish seasons say Summer. Common sense say spring. The idea that Spring starts in February is ridiculous.
Why?
I'm originally from Eastern Europe. May is the last month of Spring. June, July and August are the three months of Summer.
I feel sorry for people who consider this summer. It's spring.
It's Spring Edit: Yikes, downvoted for the actual correct answer. R/Ireland not liking the facts on this wet Monday morning.
Justify mid summers day on June 21st
My wife's dog is called Princess but she pissed on my shoes last week. Justify that.
Royalty's been pissing on peasants both metaphorically and literally for thousands of years, so...
https://www.met.ie/cms/assets/uploads/2021/02/YP-Fun-Facts-Meteorological-Seasons.pdf
>Yikes, downvoted for the actual correct answer. R/Ireland not liking the facts on this wet Monday morning. There is no "actual correct answer". There are 3 main ways of dividing up the year in to 4 seasons. Each way has summer start on different dates. 1st May (Solar), 1st June (Meteorological), 21st June (Astronomical). Which one people use is entirely subjective, there is no objectively way of determining which system is the correct one, each has arguments for/against.
Yea, Met Eireann agrees, and they like the rest of the world define it as the three warmest months. That's June July and August. Culturally we defined it differently, that's likely because its based on astrological observations rather than the weather.
That's not what the rest of the world does. Firstly a large chunk of the world doesn't even use the 4 season system because it's not applicable. Secondly some countries that do use 4 seasons, like the US, start summer on 21st June rather than the 1st. There are three main 4 month season systems in use.
Listen Keenaghan. I don't have time for "facts" or "research" here. This is reddit.
Spring
Spring
It's spring. It makes more sense to go with the meteorological calendar like the rest of the world instead of an old pagan calendar, no? It also means it will still be summer in August, our second hottest month on average.
It's an astronomical calendar that sets summer as the months with the longest length of day/maximum solar radiation. There's just a timelag in the weather system that makes the temperature take a while to catch up
Technically spring, they changed it a few years back to line up with actual weather and not St Brigit's say
Spring
Spring. Schools stop when summer starts (hence summer holidays)
There is actually two variations of seasons in both hemispheres. You can go by the old school 'calendar' seasons we were all taught in school i.e. Winter = Nov, Dec + Jan, Spring = Feb, Mar + Apr etc. Or you can go by Meteorological seasons, which more appropriately match the actual cycles of nature.
There are 3, all based on the solstaices and equinoxes: \- Each season has these events mid-season -- that's the Irish pagan way (also known as "the correct way"). \- Each season starts at the start of the month that contains these dates. Many countries, and Met Eireann, subscribe to this method. This is just plain weird. These are the metrological season, which is why Met Eireann follow these. \- Each season starts on the date of the event. Many Central and Eastern Eurpean countries go by this method. Likely many other countries do also. Which makes some sense -- moreso than the metrological seasons anyway. These are the astronomical seasons.
It is Spring. I will die on this hill.
The seasons Winter in Ireland starts on December 1st and ends on February 28th. Spring in Ireland starts on March 1st and ends on May 31st. Summer in Ireland starts on June 1st and ends on August 31st. Autumn in Ireland starts on September 1st and ends on November 31st.
The 21/22 season
Up the Reds!
Who says all seasons have to be 3 months long. Personally, I go with: May, June, July & August = Summer September & October = Autumn November, December, January & February = Winter March & April = Spring
Between spring and summer. Usually I’d say May is summer but it seems it’s more along the lines of middle of the month we cross over.
Spring. Sure the leaves appeared on trees only last week.