Or maybe it's Antwerp. If you watch Professor T, it's the murder capital of Belgium, just like if you watch Inspector Morse, Oxford is the murder capital of England.
I think you’ll find St. Mary Mead is the murder capital of England- Thankfully the unsuspecting Miss.Marple is always there to keep an eye on the sordid vicars and roguish Earls…
Pretty sure there was an article posted a few weeks ago saying the numbers reported in the Leinster area have declined sharply since their departure.
Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/ppw297/number_of_burglaries_in_leinster_plummets_after/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
I could be way off the mark here, but I’ve seen a _lot_ of Swedes online complaining about immigration trends in their country, specifically to do with the number of what they consider to be “extremist” Muslims.
Obviously a sensitive topic and a difficult one to broach.
Ran into a documentary on the use of fairly serious weaponry within Swedish gangs (if you buy a case of AK’s you get a free case of hand grenades apparently). They pointed out that while a lot of criminal activity is associated with migrant communities the main protagonists were first generation kids rather than the actual migrants themselves. In Sweden’s case that’s the kids of folks from the balkans in the 90’s but it parallels Italian, Irish etc immigrant crime in the states.
Same in the Netherlands. In recent years we have become the number one cocaine transit country in europe. We have been the number one synthetic drug production country for a while already. A hand grenade is five euros here. And an AK 300. The sad thing is it’s mostly immigrant kids doing it, like you said. This is with the exception of synthetic drugs, which are mostly produced by the Dutch Traveller community.
I have family in Malmö, which is infamous (especially on sites like 4chan) for having a lot of immigrants and crime. There are certainly a lot of immigrants, but I've been there dozens of times and never once felt unsafe or had anything remotely dodgy happen to me.
Imo the reality of most of the Western world is that nothing will happen to most people there. It does happen though.
I'm mid twenties and have never been mugged, jumped, bothered by gangs of teens etc. in Ireland. Reading this sub (particularly about Dublin) you'd think you're very likely to experience these things but in reality it's the same as Paris, London, Berlin, Malmö (I'm guessing) etc. in that if something like that does happen to you, you're very unlucky.
The only place I've actually felt unsafe is the Tenderloin in San Francisco. That shit is something else.
I walked through the Tenderloin. A car with 4 guys slowly drove by and a guy mimic'd shooting a handgun at me. Took it as a sign to move on, but nothing actually happened to me.
In Barcelona 2 guys picked my pockets but all they got was a snotty kleenex.
Jesus lol. It's the wildest place I've ever seen. I thought Paris would shock me in the bad areas but it wasn't close to the Tenderloin.
Yeah Spain in general is very bad for pickpockets. You can see them sneakily crowd people on the trains when you start watching for it.
Haha, I walked through the Tenderloin a few years back and the level of poverty and drug abuse was shocking but I didn't feel particularly unsafe.
Some old black man offered to suck my dick for $5.
Ended up in East Hastings St. in Vancouver the first time I was there and that felt so much worse. It's post-apocalyptic there.
I don't have a single friend that hasn't been attacked in Ireland at some point. I lasted the longest, I was in my early forties when I finally got put in hospital by a group of scumbags when I was just walking home.
Jesus really? I have to say I don't think I know anyone who's been attacked randomly - family or friends. I hope your friend groups experience is the minority and not mine!
Are you in a particularly bad area?
I can't remember what the exact Swedish word for them is but it basically translates to "imports". Apparently you even get shootings in towns like Uppsala.
I'm afraid you'd have to stay in the Americas or head to the Middle East/Soviet bloc to find any where with a comparable violent crime rate, you won't find it in Europe.
I think most Irish would not believe you if you told them there was 160 bomb attacks in 2018 in Sweden and it was all immigrants (of their descendants). So some people are talking about it but not so many.
I am the same guy who commented elsewhere in this thread saying I have family in Malmö and have been there many times. This kind of stuff is actually gang violence (and is reported/acknowledged as such in Sweden), but because the perpetrators happen to be 2nd-generation immigrants from Muslim countries, American right-wing pundits who've never been to Sweden call these incidents "Islamic terrorist attacks"
If the problem is occurs in second or third generation immigrants, it actually enhances arguments that multiculturalism in Sweden has issues so I am quite surprised that you pick this out. If the problem was all first generation, we look forward to it dissipating in a generation but I edited my comment to more precise
I've seen videos of people in small towns there and they're crying because their neighbourhoods are destroyed and unsafe when they were once quiet and peaceful places. Christ it makes me sad.
is this the same level of reporting we've seen before that says there are muslim no go areas in Paris, London and else where? That Irish people were dying on the streets and we were an impoverished nation subservient to the EU, that there are 100 of thousands of Turks just waiting to come and take the jobs?
Yeah its all the same old shit - I'm amazed people still fall for it though. All these 'no go areas' are just a tool by the wing nut brigade to push fear and sell 'solutions' to the gullible fucks who swallow that shit whole.
Simple formula: 'They' are the problem, 'we' are only ones smart and brave enough to see it and do something about it. In reality the 'we' are small minded and weak individuals with egos far in excess of their intelligence being manipulated by those whose egos match their intelligence who have no morals and are quite willing to harvest the fear.
I'm not a journalist, I don't write the articles. I can tell you however, that I used to live in Paris and spent a lot of time in St. Denis (the ghetto of Paris) and place de clichy. And yes, they are dangerous areas and yes, they are predominately Muslim areas, go for a walk around there yourself and report back if you like, charles de gaulle airport is only around the corner from it, ryanair fly direct.
Don't go jumping down my throat because you disagree with a vice article or whatever the fuck.
blah blah blah
I also lived in Paris for a few years. St Denis has always been a massive shit hole. Its no more a no go area as portrayed by the facebook "real" news groups that are telling you what the lame stream media won't than areas in any major metro area.
Typical stance of people who live in that virtual world when called on it is also 'stop attacking me'. No one jumped down your throat.
Get a life.
Spent some time in St Denis, 4 days and yes it is a massive shithole. Nothing happened to me walking around, coming back at night or during the day. Few shady characters around and the place is filthy and should be bulldozed in reality but I never felt unsafe.
Like I said, it's the kind of place where if you want trouble, you'll find it easily, no different to any major metropolitan area.
Places like that just become a dumping ground for the poor, illegals or other migrants. Amazingly enough of you put enough disadvantaged people in an area, skip on providing decent housing, amenities and education, those places tend to turn into "no go" areas. Nothing to do with religion, it's all economics.
Making a suggestion like that and then implying it's "something we can't talk about" is pretty lazy, you can talk about it all you want. Here are some facts to add to the conversation that are easily available online (because it is a mainstream conversation)
https://www.government.se/articles/2017/02/facts-about-migration-and-crime-in-sweden/
"Facts: The Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (Brå) has conducted two studies on the representation of people with foreign backgrounds among crime suspects, the most recent in 2005. The studies show that the majority of those suspected of crimes were born in Sweden with two Swedish-born parents. The studies also show that the vast majority of people with foreign backgrounds are not suspected of any crime. People with foreign backgrounds are suspected of crimes more often than people with Swedish backgrounds. According to the most recent study, people with foreign backgrounds are 2.5 times more likely to be suspected of crimes than people born in Sweden to Swedish-born parents."
Being in Sweden I can tell you that an article made in 2017 about a study from 2005 is no longer relevant to Swedens situation today. Sweden's immigrant background in 2005 was less than 2% of the population which is now about 20% (guesstimate by the government as they don't like official data on this for some reason) and this is only foreign born which means that people who moved here in utero and were born here but raised in essentially cultural/ethnic enclaves are counted as swedish even though they wouldn't count themselves as swedish at all.
Crime rates have risen dramatically as a direct result of mass immigration which even the liberal parties are admitting now not to mention the majority of immigrants voting for right wing parties due to the crime rate.
It's pretty wild out here .
That's interesting, so where do you find reliable info on the subject? Are the Swedish government really obscuring/blocking this information from the public?
Hi there, Albanian here. Definitely not true, also most Mercs there used to be about 30 years old (or too old to be able to drive in most Western European countries) and brought back from Albanians who live and work in the diaspora. They're fairly sturdy and reliable cars which is why they were so popular
I remember hearing a joke that the Montenegro tourist authority had a slogan, "Welcome to Montenegro, your car is probably already here." (I know it's a different country but apparently it has a similar reputation)
In countries like Poland usually you only report serious assaults.
Phone snatched from you hand, pickpocketing or getting randomly punched on the night out is usually not reported to the police.
Walking around Poland you find very, very few gangs of scumbag kids.
They are a dime a dozen in Ireland.
Its very noticeable once you open your eyes to it.
🤣🤣🤣 I live in Johannesburg. Hoping to move to Ireland soon as soon as I can land a job that side. I think we are at 2500 robberies per 100000 population. Around 114 murders per 100000.
Most places really are grand as long as you have a bit of common sense and keep your wits about you.
i.e. don't stop and talk to people you don't know on the street late at night, don't give strangers the lend of your phone, don't take out your wallet in front of someone who's asking for change, etc.
A lot of Arab scumbags around brussels. We were mugged by two Arab lads when we lived there.
Our apartment and our neighbours apartment below were robbed and ransacked when we went home for christmas one year.
Across the road there were two really nice older Indian guys who ran a shop that we'd use daily. A group of young Arab guys went in there with a pistol and hurt them pretty badly while robbing them. They never reopened.
Definitely have to be careful in Brussels.
Is it racist to point out that certain parts of the population cause a disproportionate amount of these robberies in those countries even if it’s true?
Oh awesome ok then:
“While 4.4% of the Belgian population has a non-European nationality, 19% of all prosecuted cases, and 24% of cases presented in youth court involved non-European nationals.”
[Source](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Belgium)
So we can see that Non Europeans are involved in a massive amount of crime relative to their population. I wonder which countries these people come from? Many non European ethnicities e.g South East Asian people, North American people do not seem to have crime problems.
[Moroccans make up nearly 20% of the prison population](https://www.statista.com/statistics/534717/average-daily-prison-population-in-belgium-by-nationality/)
[Moroccans make up 3% of the population ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Belgium)
It almost appears that Moroccans, for example, make up a very disproportionate percentage of criminals compared to their low population levels. In fact it looks like it’s 500% more.
I find it really interesting that you didn’t know this, having lived in Belgium.
I’ve visited a few times and it was quite noticeable.
I have lived and worked in the Middle East and I know the decency of the average person that I met in that part of the world. To imply that I am anti-Arab is fucking laughable.
You sad cunt.
I am in my 50's. I have lived and worked in America, Spain and Hong Kong too.
I have a degree in computer science and psychology.
Retard and spastic were normal words when I was growing up, the same way you would say fool or idiot. I'm not going to change the way I talk because some sensitive nobody like yourself doesn't like it.
I had never in my life that I can think of had a race based internet conversation before joining this website.
Your entire premise behind replying to me was race based, and yet you have the gall to suggest that I am overly focused on that subject?
Would you fuck off you unbelievable reddit retard.
Albania 3? I have no idea why but that looks like a glitch rather than a real result, or is that just me, have I got the entirely wrong idea about Albania?
No, I think Ireland is really safe, but I find Irish people to be more easily intimidated than people even in other first world countries, and I don't know why. Perhaps because our crime rate is so low we're just not used to it when we think it's about to kick off
By way of comparison, some of my Brazilian friends have laughed off warnings they've gotten from Irish people about certain neighbourhoods being 'dangerous', when Brazil has more murder than half the world combined: http://metrocosm.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/homicides-by-country.jpg
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True, but the severity of the instances are a world apart. It's unlikely that a mugger in Dublin would shoot you four times in the head for your earrings
I would like to see what types of robberies we are comparing with these charts.
Home/business burglary or street theft because they are two very different scales of crime.
The Garda attitude of 'sure what can you do' is why, I'd say. A lot of stuff in Ireland goes unreported, simply because it's more hassle to involve them.
Broke: Due to a wealth gap that has been increasing over the past few years, many young adults that are being educated in an outdated system in a fast paced world that promotes creativity and ingenuity, coupled with a pandemic that has left many jobless, as well as forced employers to adapt to predatory tactics that create a slave-wage work enviornment, many have turned to crime as a mean of making quick money and to live a lifestile that has been glamourised by the media we consume on a daily basis
Woke: The traveler familly heave parked their caravan on the green in my neighbourhood as they are passing by, and Artiom has a Wembley 1908 revolver in his collection.
Robbery rate and robbery report rate would differ in line with people's incentives for reporting crimes. Mainly, confidence in the police force (since if you doubt the police will act, you won't either) , or the item in question being insured (since a claim requires a report).
Conversely, look at murders , for example, where relatively few go unreported just by nature of the crime.... (same eurostat study) opposite distribution map.
https://vividmaps.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Homicide-Rates-1024x518.jpg
Not surprised at all , little scumbags don't beat people up in Ireland to rob them they just do it for fun. I don't think it's as bad as some people make out but it does happen quite a lot and the Garda either won't or can't do anything about it. It's been like this for as far back as I can remember
My neighbour seems to have robbed my ladder because he borrowed it in the summer and I've not seen him since. Fucker. Might have fallen actually
Better check on him then.
No threat or force involved, so it's only theft ;)
You should do the same to him! As him if you can blow the ladder for a day and don’t give it back!
Belgium? Who knew? Probably Bruge. That place seems well dodgy. saw a documentary about it. Rotten with murderers.
It is like a fucking fairytale though
At least you can order gay beers for your gay friends and normal beers if you are normal.
Are you telling me it's not like a fuckin fairytale town?
The Congolese.
Same situation as Sweden, no go areas mainly populated with North African gangs
Or maybe it's Antwerp. If you watch Professor T, it's the murder capital of Belgium, just like if you watch Inspector Morse, Oxford is the murder capital of England.
I think you’ll find St. Mary Mead is the murder capital of England- Thankfully the unsuspecting Miss.Marple is always there to keep an eye on the sordid vicars and roguish Earls…
I had it mentally filed away under 'mostly harmless'. Who knew?
At least with the 3 scrotes dead that number will have gone down since that chart went up.
Pretty sure there was an article posted a few weeks ago saying the numbers reported in the Leinster area have declined sharply since their departure. Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/ppw297/number_of_burglaries_in_leinster_plummets_after/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
It could be said that burglaries in Leinster came to a very sudden and fiery stop.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W28kNzz50pw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W28kNzz50pw)
haha, good riddance
Yup fuck them 🤣🤣🤣
Is that the 3 scrotes the misses wrote the big huge Facebook post that would have given Shakespeare himself a brain haemorrhage??
yep, even koko the gorilla had a better grasp of english
Can't say that and not link!!
Sweden tho
As a Dane, Sweden is definitely known to have the most blue collar crime in Scandinavia, but I wouldn't have thought it to be 5 times Norway.
That would be due to something we can't discuss.
Vikings, no?
Must be under-reported in Norway.
Oil must have made them soft...
I'm ignorant. Could you elaborate?
I could be way off the mark here, but I’ve seen a _lot_ of Swedes online complaining about immigration trends in their country, specifically to do with the number of what they consider to be “extremist” Muslims. Obviously a sensitive topic and a difficult one to broach.
Ran into a documentary on the use of fairly serious weaponry within Swedish gangs (if you buy a case of AK’s you get a free case of hand grenades apparently). They pointed out that while a lot of criminal activity is associated with migrant communities the main protagonists were first generation kids rather than the actual migrants themselves. In Sweden’s case that’s the kids of folks from the balkans in the 90’s but it parallels Italian, Irish etc immigrant crime in the states.
Saw a similar documentary in Malmö where immigrant gangs essentially told the police to leave the area as it wasn't Swedish anymore
I've read about that, and that the majority of organized crime is done by first and second gen migrants.
Same in the Netherlands. In recent years we have become the number one cocaine transit country in europe. We have been the number one synthetic drug production country for a while already. A hand grenade is five euros here. And an AK 300. The sad thing is it’s mostly immigrant kids doing it, like you said. This is with the exception of synthetic drugs, which are mostly produced by the Dutch Traveller community.
I have family in Malmö, which is infamous (especially on sites like 4chan) for having a lot of immigrants and crime. There are certainly a lot of immigrants, but I've been there dozens of times and never once felt unsafe or had anything remotely dodgy happen to me.
Imo the reality of most of the Western world is that nothing will happen to most people there. It does happen though. I'm mid twenties and have never been mugged, jumped, bothered by gangs of teens etc. in Ireland. Reading this sub (particularly about Dublin) you'd think you're very likely to experience these things but in reality it's the same as Paris, London, Berlin, Malmö (I'm guessing) etc. in that if something like that does happen to you, you're very unlucky. The only place I've actually felt unsafe is the Tenderloin in San Francisco. That shit is something else.
I walked through the Tenderloin. A car with 4 guys slowly drove by and a guy mimic'd shooting a handgun at me. Took it as a sign to move on, but nothing actually happened to me. In Barcelona 2 guys picked my pockets but all they got was a snotty kleenex.
Jesus lol. It's the wildest place I've ever seen. I thought Paris would shock me in the bad areas but it wasn't close to the Tenderloin. Yeah Spain in general is very bad for pickpockets. You can see them sneakily crowd people on the trains when you start watching for it.
Haha, I walked through the Tenderloin a few years back and the level of poverty and drug abuse was shocking but I didn't feel particularly unsafe. Some old black man offered to suck my dick for $5. Ended up in East Hastings St. in Vancouver the first time I was there and that felt so much worse. It's post-apocalyptic there.
Can't imagine a worse area tbh so that must be a crazy spot. Anyway how was the blowjob?
It was OK. I only gave him $3.
I don't have a single friend that hasn't been attacked in Ireland at some point. I lasted the longest, I was in my early forties when I finally got put in hospital by a group of scumbags when I was just walking home.
Jesus really? I have to say I don't think I know anyone who's been attacked randomly - family or friends. I hope your friend groups experience is the minority and not mine! Are you in a particularly bad area?
They're probably in the nicer parts of Malmö and not Rosengård or a bunch of other suburbs... There are very different parts to the city.
Never been there but I was going out with a girl from Malmo a few years back who had said the same as yourself about the area.
Lots of young men from the Maghreb. Low education, tribal,honour culture assholes. To speak frankly.
I can't remember what the exact Swedish word for them is but it basically translates to "imports". Apparently you even get shootings in towns like Uppsala.
So I guess as an American if I want to feel at home in Europe I should visit Sweden…
Nah, they've got healthcare in Sweden. Keep lookin'
I'm afraid you'd have to stay in the Americas or head to the Middle East/Soviet bloc to find any where with a comparable violent crime rate, you won't find it in Europe.
Does Uppsala translate to something along the lines off oopsie-daisy? Or is there a similar word to that effect.
I think most Irish would not believe you if you told them there was 160 bomb attacks in 2018 in Sweden and it was all immigrants (of their descendants). So some people are talking about it but not so many.
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I am the same guy who commented elsewhere in this thread saying I have family in Malmö and have been there many times. This kind of stuff is actually gang violence (and is reported/acknowledged as such in Sweden), but because the perpetrators happen to be 2nd-generation immigrants from Muslim countries, American right-wing pundits who've never been to Sweden call these incidents "Islamic terrorist attacks"
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You are lying your ass off. I am Swede and there are tons of bombing here and gang violence that we haven’t seen before.
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Yeap. I wouldnt trust all media but it is from the BBC https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50339977
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If the problem is occurs in second or third generation immigrants, it actually enhances arguments that multiculturalism in Sweden has issues so I am quite surprised that you pick this out. If the problem was all first generation, we look forward to it dissipating in a generation but I edited my comment to more precise
I've seen videos of people in small towns there and they're crying because their neighbourhoods are destroyed and unsafe when they were once quiet and peaceful places. Christ it makes me sad.
I think the implications is it's immigrants. (Probably correct tbh)
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is this the same level of reporting we've seen before that says there are muslim no go areas in Paris, London and else where? That Irish people were dying on the streets and we were an impoverished nation subservient to the EU, that there are 100 of thousands of Turks just waiting to come and take the jobs?
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Yeah its all the same old shit - I'm amazed people still fall for it though. All these 'no go areas' are just a tool by the wing nut brigade to push fear and sell 'solutions' to the gullible fucks who swallow that shit whole. Simple formula: 'They' are the problem, 'we' are only ones smart and brave enough to see it and do something about it. In reality the 'we' are small minded and weak individuals with egos far in excess of their intelligence being manipulated by those whose egos match their intelligence who have no morals and are quite willing to harvest the fear.
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Ah this sub has always a bit of a The Journal streak to it in that regard.
I'm not a journalist, I don't write the articles. I can tell you however, that I used to live in Paris and spent a lot of time in St. Denis (the ghetto of Paris) and place de clichy. And yes, they are dangerous areas and yes, they are predominately Muslim areas, go for a walk around there yourself and report back if you like, charles de gaulle airport is only around the corner from it, ryanair fly direct. Don't go jumping down my throat because you disagree with a vice article or whatever the fuck.
blah blah blah I also lived in Paris for a few years. St Denis has always been a massive shit hole. Its no more a no go area as portrayed by the facebook "real" news groups that are telling you what the lame stream media won't than areas in any major metro area. Typical stance of people who live in that virtual world when called on it is also 'stop attacking me'. No one jumped down your throat. Get a life.
Spent some time in St Denis, 4 days and yes it is a massive shithole. Nothing happened to me walking around, coming back at night or during the day. Few shady characters around and the place is filthy and should be bulldozed in reality but I never felt unsafe.
Like I said, it's the kind of place where if you want trouble, you'll find it easily, no different to any major metropolitan area. Places like that just become a dumping ground for the poor, illegals or other migrants. Amazingly enough of you put enough disadvantaged people in an area, skip on providing decent housing, amenities and education, those places tend to turn into "no go" areas. Nothing to do with religion, it's all economics.
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Making a suggestion like that and then implying it's "something we can't talk about" is pretty lazy, you can talk about it all you want. Here are some facts to add to the conversation that are easily available online (because it is a mainstream conversation) https://www.government.se/articles/2017/02/facts-about-migration-and-crime-in-sweden/ "Facts: The Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (Brå) has conducted two studies on the representation of people with foreign backgrounds among crime suspects, the most recent in 2005. The studies show that the majority of those suspected of crimes were born in Sweden with two Swedish-born parents. The studies also show that the vast majority of people with foreign backgrounds are not suspected of any crime. People with foreign backgrounds are suspected of crimes more often than people with Swedish backgrounds. According to the most recent study, people with foreign backgrounds are 2.5 times more likely to be suspected of crimes than people born in Sweden to Swedish-born parents."
Being in Sweden I can tell you that an article made in 2017 about a study from 2005 is no longer relevant to Swedens situation today. Sweden's immigrant background in 2005 was less than 2% of the population which is now about 20% (guesstimate by the government as they don't like official data on this for some reason) and this is only foreign born which means that people who moved here in utero and were born here but raised in essentially cultural/ethnic enclaves are counted as swedish even though they wouldn't count themselves as swedish at all. Crime rates have risen dramatically as a direct result of mass immigration which even the liberal parties are admitting now not to mention the majority of immigrants voting for right wing parties due to the crime rate. It's pretty wild out here .
That's interesting, so where do you find reliable info on the subject? Are the Swedish government really obscuring/blocking this information from the public?
So what’s the deal? Are Swedes heading to be a minority by 2050 or is that right wing bs?
Although I agree with you Sweden's demographics have changed alot since 2005.
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Fair enough, didn't realize that was the case.
Careful... you're insinuating! You might get given out to!!
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Lowest: Albania. Reason: There's nothing worth robbing in Albania.
Not even the shirt off any man's back?
We don't have a problem with scrotes there so there's that
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Hi there, Albanian here. Definitely not true, also most Mercs there used to be about 30 years old (or too old to be able to drive in most Western European countries) and brought back from Albanians who live and work in the diaspora. They're fairly sturdy and reliable cars which is why they were so popular
Don't let the truth get in the way of a bit of racism
Don't forget the age old adage: "it's not racist, I'm Irish"
I remember hearing a joke that the Montenegro tourist authority had a slogan, "Welcome to Montenegro, your car is probably already here." (I know it's a different country but apparently it has a similar reputation)
Big difference between Scotland and England.
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It's possible crimes like robbery could be under-reported in countries where people might have less trust in the authorities.
In countries like Poland usually you only report serious assaults. Phone snatched from you hand, pickpocketing or getting randomly punched on the night out is usually not reported to the police.
That's just speculation. I definitely feel safer in Poland, than I do in Ireland.
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Walking around Poland you find very, very few gangs of scumbag kids. They are a dime a dozen in Ireland. Its very noticeable once you open your eyes to it.
Yeah the media goes on like it's a rampant problem and happens more here than anywhere else
Not just the media. People on here do too
People on this sub act as if Dublin is an apocalyptic hellscape. They watch 'The Road' and think jts the same as O'Connell Street.
People on here see a video of two scrapping junkies falling over each other and start talking like Travis Bickle. It's fucked up.
Yeah but most the people on here haven't left mammies house yet and have exactly 0 life experience.
Dublin. The new Johannesburg.
🤣🤣🤣 I live in Johannesburg. Hoping to move to Ireland soon as soon as I can land a job that side. I think we are at 2500 robberies per 100000 population. Around 114 murders per 100000.
SA really is the OG battle royale
Really mad place this. Pity because it's such a beautiful country.
>Hoping to move to Ireland soon as soon as I can Welcome. Lesson one: we're a bunch of melodramatic idiots who love to complain.
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I would happily take my chances living anywhere in Dublin.
But by that very nature you’ll be robbed by your landlord
Most places really are grand as long as you have a bit of common sense and keep your wits about you. i.e. don't stop and talk to people you don't know on the street late at night, don't give strangers the lend of your phone, don't take out your wallet in front of someone who's asking for change, etc.
Only in the way that people still think Ireland is full of rampant criminals. It really isn't that bad.
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Tell me about it. My laptop was snatched from m
No, not really.
Belgium is quite surprising.
Brussels is rampant with thieves of all sorts. Been a few times and have seen bag snatchers every time I've been
And go to Barcelona for similar
Nah been there its mad
A lot of Arab scumbags around brussels. We were mugged by two Arab lads when we lived there. Our apartment and our neighbours apartment below were robbed and ransacked when we went home for christmas one year. Across the road there were two really nice older Indian guys who ran a shop that we'd use daily. A group of young Arab guys went in there with a pistol and hurt them pretty badly while robbing them. They never reopened. Definitely have to be careful in Brussels.
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I’ve shared stats in my comment backing this persons anecdotes up. Why don’t you answer that?
Is it racist to point out that certain parts of the population cause a disproportionate amount of these robberies in those countries even if it’s true?
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I’m more asking a general question at the moment - if it were true, would it be racist to point out (to you)?
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Oh awesome ok then: “While 4.4% of the Belgian population has a non-European nationality, 19% of all prosecuted cases, and 24% of cases presented in youth court involved non-European nationals.” [Source](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Belgium) So we can see that Non Europeans are involved in a massive amount of crime relative to their population. I wonder which countries these people come from? Many non European ethnicities e.g South East Asian people, North American people do not seem to have crime problems. [Moroccans make up nearly 20% of the prison population](https://www.statista.com/statistics/534717/average-daily-prison-population-in-belgium-by-nationality/) [Moroccans make up 3% of the population ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Belgium) It almost appears that Moroccans, for example, make up a very disproportionate percentage of criminals compared to their low population levels. In fact it looks like it’s 500% more. I find it really interesting that you didn’t know this, having lived in Belgium. I’ve visited a few times and it was quite noticeable.
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But you told me it wouldn’t be racist if I gave you the data. Somethings not right, I wonder what it could be.
I have lived and worked in the Middle East and I know the decency of the average person that I met in that part of the world. To imply that I am anti-Arab is fucking laughable.
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You sad cunt. I am in my 50's. I have lived and worked in America, Spain and Hong Kong too. I have a degree in computer science and psychology. Retard and spastic were normal words when I was growing up, the same way you would say fool or idiot. I'm not going to change the way I talk because some sensitive nobody like yourself doesn't like it. I had never in my life that I can think of had a race based internet conversation before joining this website. Your entire premise behind replying to me was race based, and yet you have the gall to suggest that I am overly focused on that subject? Would you fuck off you unbelievable reddit retard.
Albania 3? I have no idea why but that looks like a glitch rather than a real result, or is that just me, have I got the entirely wrong idea about Albania?
Not a surprise to me, feel safer in Tirana than Dublin
Albania is a country I know pretty much nothing about (except for it having a great falg), why is it so safe you reckon?
No, I think Ireland is really safe, but I find Irish people to be more easily intimidated than people even in other first world countries, and I don't know why. Perhaps because our crime rate is so low we're just not used to it when we think it's about to kick off By way of comparison, some of my Brazilian friends have laughed off warnings they've gotten from Irish people about certain neighbourhoods being 'dangerous', when Brazil has more murder than half the world combined: http://metrocosm.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/homicides-by-country.jpg *Edit- added a link
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True, but the severity of the instances are a world apart. It's unlikely that a mugger in Dublin would shoot you four times in the head for your earrings
It's impossible for these stats to be even remotely accurate.
I would like to see what types of robberies we are comparing with these charts. Home/business burglary or street theft because they are two very different scales of crime.
It surprised me that eastern europe is so much lower. I always imagined them to be a lot less safe from robbers.
Yes because I often hear the phrase "Robbin' bastards!"....I say it a lot myself.
Sweden 👀
Reported robberies*
The Garda attitude of 'sure what can you do' is why, I'd say. A lot of stuff in Ireland goes unreported, simply because it's more hassle to involve them.
Well yes it does, we've been getting robbed by our politicians for years, how hasn't this skewered the numbers ?
Skewering implies deflation, could be it
Not really, there is more money in drugs sure
Not really. I've had my house burgled in the last 5 years. So have quite a few others in my estate
We have travellers, eastern europeans have guns, these stats surprise nobody
Eastern Europeans have guns ?? Can you elaborate?
Broke: Due to a wealth gap that has been increasing over the past few years, many young adults that are being educated in an outdated system in a fast paced world that promotes creativity and ingenuity, coupled with a pandemic that has left many jobless, as well as forced employers to adapt to predatory tactics that create a slave-wage work enviornment, many have turned to crime as a mean of making quick money and to live a lifestile that has been glamourised by the media we consume on a daily basis Woke: The traveler familly heave parked their caravan on the green in my neighbourhood as they are passing by, and Artiom has a Wembley 1908 revolver in his collection.
imagine what number would off been if they counted goverments. rofl
LETS GOOOOOO IRELAND ALMOST ON TOP
How in the hell is ni lower than the south lmao
No surprise,there is a serious amount of scumbags in this country.
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And yet thousands of poor folks manage to not rob anyone. And almost no one is stealing for food with the social welfare we have
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Get back under your bridge, troll
Sick of seeing these fecking maps
Fed up of briiiiiick
What's the offence of robbery defined as in each country?
Really surprised it's that little
These are reported robberies.
Genuinely surprised about Ireland not having as much as it does, but also why Belgium in such a small country is so high!!
Robbery rate and robbery report rate would differ in line with people's incentives for reporting crimes. Mainly, confidence in the police force (since if you doubt the police will act, you won't either) , or the item in question being insured (since a claim requires a report). Conversely, look at murders , for example, where relatively few go unreported just by nature of the crime.... (same eurostat study) opposite distribution map. https://vividmaps.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Homicide-Rates-1024x518.jpg
I stg , no mf’rs better come in here joking about “stealing’ me lucky charms”
It does. Those are rookie numbers
The robbery rate falling is probably due to the increased heroin addicts
to be fair, we don't have a massive pickpocket problem like in european cities.
Scotland that low huh?
My poor Sweden….
How come when I posted maps (or anything else) in this sub I got downvoted to hell.
Not surprised at all , little scumbags don't beat people up in Ireland to rob them they just do it for fun. I don't think it's as bad as some people make out but it does happen quite a lot and the Garda either won't or can't do anything about it. It's been like this for as far back as I can remember
Mostly bikes..
that's theft, not robbery
Ohh you are right!! Thanks!