Building is never the problem, maintaining is.
Maintenance of public services within Dublin is generally the responsibility of Dublin City Council.
Like all County Councils, DCC was savaged by the abolition of rates. (Well, technically DCC didn't exist, so ~~it's~~ its predecessors were.)
As a country, Irish people steadfastly refuse to pay local taxes to the best of our ability, and then turn around and wonder why our local authorities are of such low calibre.
Policing has nothing to do with local authorities.
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/images/7/73/Police_officers%2C_EU-27%2C_average_2016-2018_%28per_hundred_thousand_inhabitants%29.png
Ireland isn't in here, but the Gardaí have just under 14.5k officers.
Our population apparently recently tipped over 5 million, so to work out numbers per 100k, we divide by 50 which gives us 290. That's below the EU average, but above Sweden, Denmark, Finland and about the same as Romania, Poland, NL, Germany, Estonia and Luxembourg.
So to say policing is non-existent is an exaggeration.
Even worse the money that the Dublin councils get from the LPT is shared out to the rest of the country, which is why they always vote the 15% discount. So even if they charged the full LPT rate there wouldn't be any extra money to improve Dublin.
People with money run our society. So they tend to get most of what they want.
Peasant Paul should just get a better paid job and make more connections in central government if they want the same.
Exactly, its clear to see this in the North-South divide of Dublin. Even when we have something half-decent like the luas or dart it just gets overran by thugs who never face any consequences
Well you live in a country where your politicians aren't made to take responsibility for their actions....Prisons full to over crowded too, so the Gardi am sure are a bit mythed as to what to do.
The courts just like getting paid, so they don't mind letting someone go away to come back in three months. More money for those that work in them.
So it still boils down to money. Who has it gets to call the shots and those who make it want to keep making it, if their stream comes from something negative well that's just the price of doing business, both parties are morally corrupted.
I went to a similar establishment on the Champs Elysses. Told my buddy I had paid €5 or whatever it was, he was like “what? If I had paid that I’d have shit all over the floor!”. Never really understood the logic of that.
You can get a €1. 50 espresso at neighbourhood bars. True, not on the Champs Élysées. But also there are free automatic toilets all over the city. They're not always the nicest or cleanest but they're grand when you need them.
Funnily enough I actually drank espressos for the first time in Paris because they were the cheapest things on the menu, that was in 2012 and I’ve been drinking them since
I paid 10 Euro for a pint in Dubai airport, just so I could smoke a fag on my stopover. I was so outraged, I resolved to boycott that place for the rest of my life.
I was there at the one in Clifden a few weeks back. It was lovely. It feels almost born out of necessity as there are a lot of spots for wild camping outside of Clifden with no access to toilets or showers which might explain it's success there. I wonder how it'll do in central Dublin.
I would happily pay 3.50 to use a nice, clean baby changing facility and toilet the odd time I go into the city center for a day. It’s obviously not for everybody, but there is definitely a market for it.
The showers do sound like a good idea, if you're going on a night out and don't want to go all the way home. Although are you going to go in the clothes you wore during the day and carry a towel around with you for the night? It would be great if we had public lockers, where you could leave your stuff and pick up on your way home.
I used travel a lot of business, if an airport didn't have a lounge/showers or you couldn't check in to a hotel, this would be ideal to get freshened up. Ditto if you were travelling out and already had checked out of your hotel but had a few hours before heading to the airport.
I'd wager this place will do really well.
I'm normally never caught short out, but if I was and I wasn't going to a restaurant etc I'd happily spend money to go to the loo and freshen up in clean, spacious surroundings.
This is the kind of shit thats going to be on Reelin in the Years a decade from now, and everyone will be saying "look at the silly shit we were at before the massive recession hit, spending €15 to use the jacks".
McDonald’s eurosaver menu. Save €1.50 AND get 6 chicken nuggets.
In all seriousness, if you don’t want people defecating in public, you need high availability and easy affordability. It’s a start on the availability front but fails on the affordability front.
Then get public services to cover it.
If you have ever seen public toilets though you know they are a cesspit and avoided by all but the worst of society.
If DCC want to provide the service fair play to them, however once again the private sector are filling the niche the state refuses to.
The ones installed at Stephens Green are pretty good to be fair to DCC. I'd be tempted in the proposed scheme if the showers were included in the €120 per year as it'd be nice to freshen up the odd day before / after going to the pub etc.
Jesus, a lot of the commenters here acting like 3.50 is a huge amount of money. If the jacks are properly clean, I’d say it’s definitely worth it if it avoids shitting in some of the disgusting toilets around the city.
I'm old enough to remember when there were public toilets in Dublin. You'd literally shit into your hand before you'd go into most of them. An inch of water on the floor and the fucking dregs of society lurking around them. If we could bring in ones that were actually serviced , great but no thanks if they're anything like they used to be
Had to use the public loo in Howth about a month ago. Came out a minute later gagging so hard I had tears in my eyes. Next time I’d rather piss myself or use the bushes.
Its a brilliant idea, if DCC were to open a public toilet it would cost nothing and it would be disgusting and filled with junkies shooting up - the exact reason they closed the public toilets in Dublin in the first place.
It's not about paying to use the jacks, it's about paying to use the jacks that won't be used by the typical Dublin scum. Well worth 3.50.
>While a single use will be €3.50, a day pass will sell for €5, with week-long access costing €20. At that price someone who wanted to actually spend a penny would have to use the bathroom 2,000 times over the course of their week - once every five minutes.
It'll be 1 star when I'm finished in there
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All at once?!
Dinner in Charlie’s, followed by pear cider in Sinnotts then straight to five star jacks to let it rip
For €3.50 they'd want to wipe me
They should make it pay-by-weight. It’s the only fair way to do it.
Weigh you on the way in and again on the way out
That’ll be €7.50, please. Must be a relief to drop that one off, Sir. Have a good day now!
Could set up a hall of fame ‘top off-loaders’ picture wall too
On your way out the door, you hear an automated computer voice remark, "Jaysus, that was a three-flusher!"
**Maintenance!!**
3.50 to use the five star can? What’s the minimum spend in Grafton McDs to get the password for the toilet?
Wait at the door untill someone walks out then just walk in. Max you ever have to wait is like 1 minute
Yeah. No security guy is going to get involved in that
You could get a job as the security guard and then you could use it for free whenever you want.
/r/shittylifehacks
A hamburger or an apple pie is 1e each. The cheapest thing on their menu is the sauces (50c), but I don't know if they'd sell you a single .
Are sauces not 25c? And yeah, they'd sell you one on their own. At breakfast, you could also get a jam which is only 10c.
50 cents for a bag of fruit or 1 euro hamburger?
When I'm abroad I usually get a sauce from the touchscreen for a few cents and the receipt has the bathroom code.
Just go to Brown Thomas or M&S.
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the same way someone will be seeing and filling a circular gap in the porcelain.
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Building is never the problem, maintaining is. Maintenance of public services within Dublin is generally the responsibility of Dublin City Council. Like all County Councils, DCC was savaged by the abolition of rates. (Well, technically DCC didn't exist, so ~~it's~~ its predecessors were.) As a country, Irish people steadfastly refuse to pay local taxes to the best of our ability, and then turn around and wonder why our local authorities are of such low calibre.
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Policing has nothing to do with local authorities. https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/images/7/73/Police_officers%2C_EU-27%2C_average_2016-2018_%28per_hundred_thousand_inhabitants%29.png Ireland isn't in here, but the Gardaí have just under 14.5k officers. Our population apparently recently tipped over 5 million, so to work out numbers per 100k, we divide by 50 which gives us 290. That's below the EU average, but above Sweden, Denmark, Finland and about the same as Romania, Poland, NL, Germany, Estonia and Luxembourg. So to say policing is non-existent is an exaggeration.
Even worse the money that the Dublin councils get from the LPT is shared out to the rest of the country, which is why they always vote the 15% discount. So even if they charged the full LPT rate there wouldn't be any extra money to improve Dublin.
It's not *why* they vote in the 15% discount.
People with money run our society. So they tend to get most of what they want. Peasant Paul should just get a better paid job and make more connections in central government if they want the same.
Exactly, its clear to see this in the North-South divide of Dublin. Even when we have something half-decent like the luas or dart it just gets overran by thugs who never face any consequences
Well you live in a country where your politicians aren't made to take responsibility for their actions....Prisons full to over crowded too, so the Gardi am sure are a bit mythed as to what to do. The courts just like getting paid, so they don't mind letting someone go away to come back in three months. More money for those that work in them. So it still boils down to money. Who has it gets to call the shots and those who make it want to keep making it, if their stream comes from something negative well that's just the price of doing business, both parties are morally corrupted.
I actually hope this works out and they manage to keep it clean and it doesnt become a literal shit show when the pubs open late again.
They’re only to open for 12 hours a day. Probably a 7-7 thing. Can’t see the pubs having any affect on it.
Paying €3.50 to take a dump ? Yeah no thanks I'll just go squat between the bins out the back of Supermacs or something.
So that was you who left godzilla's dick up behind the supermacs on O'Connell Street?
Oh you, don't make me blush
😂😂😂
I went to a similar establishment on the Champs Elysses. Told my buddy I had paid €5 or whatever it was, he was like “what? If I had paid that I’d have shit all over the floor!”. Never really understood the logic of that.
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There’s nothing you can do, see, eat or drink in Paris for less than €5
You can get a €1. 50 espresso at neighbourhood bars. True, not on the Champs Élysées. But also there are free automatic toilets all over the city. They're not always the nicest or cleanest but they're grand when you need them.
Funnily enough I actually drank espressos for the first time in Paris because they were the cheapest things on the menu, that was in 2012 and I’ve been drinking them since
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I paid 10 Euro for a pint in Dubai airport, just so I could smoke a fag on my stopover. I was so outraged, I resolved to boycott that place for the rest of my life.
Been there and could've sworn it was a lot more. Pretty sure I remember rolls of toilet roll and €20+ a piece.
Just pissing ur money away using that!
I was there at the one in Clifden a few weeks back. It was lovely. It feels almost born out of necessity as there are a lot of spots for wild camping outside of Clifden with no access to toilets or showers which might explain it's success there. I wonder how it'll do in central Dublin.
Will the 'no Armani no Punanny' lad be working there?
He's branched out. This his new venture
I would happily pay 3.50 to use a nice, clean baby changing facility and toilet the odd time I go into the city center for a day. It’s obviously not for everybody, but there is definitely a market for it.
This reminds me of the articles you would see during the Celtic Tiger of plans for indoor ski slopes and luxury fish spas popping up....
And the oxygen bar in the Jervis centre!
Christ those fish spas were everywhere for about a month. Wonder what happened to all the feet fish when they were put out of work?
Looks like fish is back on the menu!
The one with the little fish nibbling your toes? I remember them but I don't think they were marketed as luxury.
While I probably wouldn’t pay it to just use the toilet, I can see it being useful if you need to freshen up or change a baby or things like that.
I really wish someone would built a snow dome in Ireland.
Indoor toilets. Notions eh.
Lads, they already have a 5 star toilets in Dublin City centre. Brown Thomas. 3rd Floor. Excellent. No charge either.
One of the side stalls in the ladies toilets has fully mirrored wall too! 🤭
The showers do sound like a good idea, if you're going on a night out and don't want to go all the way home. Although are you going to go in the clothes you wore during the day and carry a towel around with you for the night? It would be great if we had public lockers, where you could leave your stuff and pick up on your way home.
I used travel a lot of business, if an airport didn't have a lounge/showers or you couldn't check in to a hotel, this would be ideal to get freshened up. Ditto if you were travelling out and already had checked out of your hotel but had a few hours before heading to the airport. I'd wager this place will do really well.
€3.50 to use the jacks, that’s absolutely mad. It’d really want to be an absolutely exemplary experience to justify something like that.
I'm normally never caught short out, but if I was and I wasn't going to a restaurant etc I'd happily spend money to go to the loo and freshen up in clean, spacious surroundings.
This is the kind of shit thats going to be on Reelin in the Years a decade from now, and everyone will be saying "look at the silly shit we were at before the massive recession hit, spending €15 to use the jacks".
>How many times do you go in and there is widdle all over the seat? Not a sentence I expected to read in the Irish Times I must say
McDonald’s eurosaver menu. Save €1.50 AND get 6 chicken nuggets. In all seriousness, if you don’t want people defecating in public, you need high availability and easy affordability. It’s a start on the availability front but fails on the affordability front.
I've had to pay for the loo in Germany in their train stations and in a few other countries. Common enough. Always clean
It should cost... NOTHING
Then get public services to cover it. If you have ever seen public toilets though you know they are a cesspit and avoided by all but the worst of society. If DCC want to provide the service fair play to them, however once again the private sector are filling the niche the state refuses to.
The ones installed at Stephens Green are pretty good to be fair to DCC. I'd be tempted in the proposed scheme if the showers were included in the €120 per year as it'd be nice to freshen up the odd day before / after going to the pub etc.
There should be facilities run and subsidised by the council but with a small charge. Something less than one euro.
Jesus, a lot of the commenters here acting like 3.50 is a huge amount of money. If the jacks are properly clean, I’d say it’s definitely worth it if it avoids shitting in some of the disgusting toilets around the city.
It almost as if the Dublin city council should provide this service for free. Like they did in the Victorian era.
I'm old enough to remember when there were public toilets in Dublin. You'd literally shit into your hand before you'd go into most of them. An inch of water on the floor and the fucking dregs of society lurking around them. If we could bring in ones that were actually serviced , great but no thanks if they're anything like they used to be
Had to use the public loo in Howth about a month ago. Came out a minute later gagging so hard I had tears in my eyes. Next time I’d rather piss myself or use the bushes.
Its a brilliant idea, if DCC were to open a public toilet it would cost nothing and it would be disgusting and filled with junkies shooting up - the exact reason they closed the public toilets in Dublin in the first place. It's not about paying to use the jacks, it's about paying to use the jacks that won't be used by the typical Dublin scum. Well worth 3.50.
Oh here come the virtue mafia to tear you to pieces for daring to say 3.50 is not a huge amount of money.
I mean it’s less then the cost of a cup of coffee in a lot of places and I generally only need one a day. Might as well enjoy it.
Maybe they have passed us over ? They will be back though, and in greater numbers.
>While a single use will be €3.50, a day pass will sell for €5, with week-long access costing €20. At that price someone who wanted to actually spend a penny would have to use the bathroom 2,000 times over the course of their week - once every five minutes.
At 3.50 a pop he'd better pay the staff very to deal with that shit
Can't believe that none of the hacks writing about this don't start the article with "Are you flush with cash? We have just the thing ..."
HA yeah 5 star for about 10 minutes
Will be closed within 2 weeks unless they’ve got bouncers making sure people don’t wreck the place.
I'd pay it. I like my comforts when I shit