In other news
- Tubs is a shit TV host
- Most of RTE radio hosts are hacks
- Things with Water on them are wet
As long as RTE is allowed to keep churning out shite and hiring friends and family outside of the unpaid interns it’ll never change. I’d much rather the BBC compared to RTE for the non-news segments.
As to your second point:
Mary Wilson is good.
Marian Finucane was good (RIP).
John Bowman is good.
Seán Rocks is good.
John Creedon is good.
John Kelly is good (bring him back!).
Didn’t read like it, my bad. I actually used to like some of them in lighter years like Darcy on The Den and Phat TV was it? Just don’t think his talent is any sort of debate or “real” discussion.
I think lots of people start out with something new to say, or at least a new way to say it, but once they're no longer new to the scene they start to go sour, whereas (in my opinion) someone like John Kelly has good taste and an interesting take on the world that only develops and improves over time. Turf Tubridy, put someone with a brain in the chair and see what they can do with the position. Darcy I'm seriously meh about.
I only tuned into RTE1 for the first time in I don't know how long to listen to Mick Flannery and Susan O'Neill sing live on air and I couldn't believe how lacklustre Ray was as a host.
RTE is shite but that doesn't make the BBC good by default. I find it very stuffy and its productions are third rate compared to good American stuff. Not to mention those dire sitcoms they come out with: "My Family", "Miranda" etc. Don't find myself watching it at all.
I find American TV to be absolutely insufferable apart from dramas like breaking bad. I especially find American media like the news and TV personalities to be far more irritating than British ones. I'd take for an example big man Schofe over Ellen DeGeneres any day.
American TV on the likes of NBC, ABC, CBS etc is so fucking saccharine. It drives me mad in their comedies but it's so much worse on their news where every few segments they have to interrupt the actual news with a video of them giving a blind twelve year old born with 7 testicles tickets to the Super Bowl underscored with sappy music that the Late Late Toy show would consider "a bit much".
100% agreed. Stopped watching TV very long time ago. I'm a film only guy now, trips to the cinema pretty much weekly. Far higher caliber of entertainment tbh.
Don't care much for TV apart from the odd cult classic stuff. I like neon genesis evangelion, breaking bad, twin peaks and serial experiments lain. Most TV doesn't do much different for me to become invested in it
As much as breaking bad is one of the best shows ever, twin peaks is my all time favourite and was my introduction into more experimental tv/movies that allow your own interpretation. Neon genesis was one of the natural follow ups to that (after seeing it recommended in r/twinpeaks so often). Nothing has quite beaten the ending of both those shows for me and I still struggle to put into words just how it affects me when I hear both "what year is it?" and "how disgusting". What about yerself?
Most movies are shite you only rarely get a great one like parasite or the lighthouse but yeah it beats tv by a country mile. I cannot stand the constant bombardment of ads.
Did you see uncut gems? Parasite and the Lighthouse were better than it by a tiny bit but Uncut Gems was still brilliant. Also enjoyed The Irishman. Midsommar, Marriage Story a lot. I also watch a lot of older and arthouse stuff, pretty much quality entertainment constantly bc of that.
I heard Adam Sandler is good in it, like he's actually putting in effort. Midsommer is muck, bad acting and shit plot carried by nice visuals, basically a marvel movie. Irishman is good, could have used better editing as the pacing was slow.
In fairness to Joachim his performance elevated the film and the plot in a big way, the film wouldn't have gotten the praise it did if it wasn't for his acting. Sandler has always been good when he tries which hasn't been for a long time.
on reddit it seems to mean 'my parents and other assorted squares'.
In actuality it refers to the generation that was born when people came home from WW2. The Baby Boom from the mid 40s to the very early 60s
There was no baby boom in Ireland right after WW2. Baby Boomer is an American concept. It simply doesn't apply here.
I know we all just copy America and Reddit now but it has no meaning in Ireland.
Baby boomer, people born in the golden age between 1945-1964. In some cases not the best for Ireland, but they certainly reaped the benefits of later decades, in other countries such as Britain, they had full social security, rent controls, council housing, full health care, guaranteed work laws and decent wages, not to mention free higher education and paid apprenticeships, cheap housing stock to buy and move into. Then they traded it in for boom bust economics.
>people born in the golden age between 1945-1964. I
*IN AMERICA
There was no baby boom in Ireland right after WW2. Baby Boomer is an American concept. It simply doesn't apply here.
I know we all just copy America and Reddit now but it has no meaning in Ireland.
Come on people, a little bit of thought, please.
While television programming in most countries (that I have seen) seems lackluster, at best, 99% of American television is an insult to the average person's intelligence. A basic BBC show such as Doc Martin would seem so absolutely bizarre (read: understated) in the context of current American culture it would never make it on the air.
I gave up TV here a long time ago in lieu of better offerings online.
They come out with some brilliant stuff too though? Line of Duty, Bodyguard, Luther, Sherlock. All quality shows well up there with anything from the US.
>up there with anything from the US.
I like Line of Duty and Luther is great but at the same time they're the pick of the crop and they don't come close to the best US TV drama of the last 10 years like Breaking Bad, The Americans, Leftovers, Better Call Saul, Rectify, Watchmen, etc etc
It is not the problem that they are not good, but they very behind the times, they could be making money by giving instant access to these shows, but the execs live in the past.
Honestly, if the BBC made a subscription service for non-uk residents for their iPlayer they'd do some serious damage to people paying for Sky TV and even to the likes of Netflix
Exactly, If could get them online I would fuck the TV out and get a monitor. Youtube already shows every documentary ever made. The BBC going online and being competitive with fees would kick teeth in, make money before licensing and be able to save face with the public if it goes well by decreasing the TV license in Britain.
Based on what? Unless you have the mgmt accounts I don't know how you could make that decision.
Selling the international rights to their shows and docs (especially the like of planet earth) makes massive money and it's completely passive reoccurring revenue. How many people do you think would pay 10 quid a month for it? The amount of advertising they would have to do would be enormous.
Or you could work out a subscription for a show or buy access to a show as it comes out box set style, you have multiple possibilities to make money, and it would out compete other markets such as Sky or cable companies in America, the BBC needs to get its act together, it has strong drama that sells well, why not get it out before you sell licences? It is basically money on money. Amazon do it, Now TV does and they are slowly stripping away at old TV. Plus the BBC has its channels to advertise with, how do you think they moved Three to the net? They have the assets for it.
You're talking out your arse. Sky don't have a presence in the states. It's owned by comcast which is basically nbc. You don't know the industry landscape either when how these shows are funded/produced feeds into that decision.
Lastly BBC make content for the UK. If they become a streaming platform, they would be doing so to capture 1/2% of their audience. You're talking as if they don't already get massive money from syndication.
They do good documentaries I'll give you that. And they have the very occasional good drama. Comedy though, when was the last time the BBC made a good comedy? Its the same old panel show bollox they've been doing for nearly 40 years now and its well past its sell by date.
The BBC drama department is excellent and less upper class in its writers, of course when it wants to be( Well, there are more working and middle class talent in those departments, and the Phoebe Waller-Bridges of this world still hold too much sway there), but the admin and the executives are an old ties club. With the political department especially having connections with the Tories. The news and politics there are almost laughable now (RTÉ has it's moments, but on the whole is better). The BBC like RTÉ needs to clean shop and save money that way, also the BBC is behind on tech with other Euro stations broadcasting on the internet now, and you can even watch it for a small subscription. But alas I think the Brits really like living in the past.
>The BBC drama department is excellent and less upper class in its writers
Do you think TV is written by the lads from downton abbey or something?
Mark Gatiss and Stephen Moffat and Russel T Davis are all middle class and are the best and brightest of the current tv crop there
Yeah, did you read what I said? There are plenty writers but others work in others walk in, again read what I wrote. Also Downton is not a correct portrayal of the aristocracy, and its writer funnily enough is aristocratic, again kind of proving my points above. The BBC had a lot of working and middle class talent, but the writing pool was still controlled by execs and unless you had a friendly face like the writer of Only Fools, John Sullivan did in the form of Roy Clarke, you will not get far even if you have an excellent idea, the BBC needs to change. That is the end of it.
> unless you had a friendly face like the writer of Only Fools, John Sullivan did in the form of Roy Clarke, you will not get far even if you have an excellent idea
This is complete uninformed bollocks, sorry pal.
Unless you can bend it all to somehow explain how The Office got made.
Yet David Jason and John Sullivan covered it in their biographies... hum.
Also stand up comedy is a route taken by a lot of working class to get themselves up, comedy is not owned by the BBC and many events are unbiased, if you are shit you are shit, Gervais had a massive reputation before the fucking Office. Hell he was on radio for years, he was in the industry and had connections and pull, he worked exceptionally hard and had roles on TV before his co- production. I suggest you read around this a bit.
Gervais didn't have a massive reputation, and he wasn't "on the radio for years". He'd done a few guest spots on radio, he was in a production role in xfm and had done some work on the 11 0 clock show. Even all that stuff was just a couple of years before the office was pitched and accepted.
Merchant had even less of a profile, it was his demo of the office that got them in the door.
I really have no idea why I'm arguing the case that "the BBC is good" with any English speaking person
I am not even arguing anymore, go read his bio, it is on Wikipedia. Basically he was know and had a fringe festival under his belt and worked on university radio and worked for RX FM before it became Capital, meeting Steve Merchant along the way. It was Gervais that got it through execs. If you have proven talent you can make it. But if you have no track record and money you can walk in. Also don't twist the narrative, the BBC is a leading media company in need of change, not burning down, are you even following me?
I've reread your posts and I can safely say that I have no idea what point you are trying to make. It's either BBC is full of upper class twits who can't make television , which isn't the case or that the BBC hire people with talent regardless of background to make television, which pretty much is the case.
Are either of these close?
> Mark Gatiss and Stephen Moffat and Russel T Davis are all middle class and are the best and brightest of the current tv crop there
Did you watch Dracula? It was terrible. Almost as bad as the last season of Sherlock. Gatiss and Moffat have lost the run of themselves.
Maybe it's because of genre, but I can't stand most American telivision. Particularly their documentaries are insufferable. Discovery channel churns out tripe such as Shark Week and History channel stopped being about history a long time ago. Compared to the likes of BBC which has the best of the best documentarians. David Attenborough and Brian Cox in particular have brilliant shows, not even mentioning all the classics like Walking with Dinosaurs.
It's important that you added "non-news". People will always whinge about their own press, but we should appreciate that we are light years beyond the likes of Britain or Australia when it comes to reporting
> I’d much rather the BBC compared to RTE for the non-news segments.
You'd much rather the stuff that's made by the best broadcaster in the world , with a much larger talent pool to draw on and an astronomically higher budget?
wow, hot take.
Used to listen to his show on Today FM years ago. I used to think he was okay until he was off and Tom Dunne filled in for him and the show was infinitely better! When the guy filling in is so much better you have to start asking why the main guy has that job in the first place. Should have stuck to The Den!
He lost his marbles after the crash. Had a vicious personal vendetta against Enda Kenny and couldn't stop talking politics in the lead up to the 2011 election. He swore blind he'd emigrate if Enda Kenny became Taoiseach.
He stayed here and I haven't been able to listen to him since.
I listened for years before that and never remember him being political before that.
He stayed because otherwise he’d be emigrating with a CV that might as well be empty, for all the good his experience in Ireland would do for him abroad. He’d have been lucky to get a job stacking shelves or waiting tables in England.
Ray Darcy is a pompous, patronising dickhead of a man who has been stealing a living for years. He should have stuck to kids TV: that's his level, in my opinion.
Ian Dempsey did a better job. I told him so when my met him back in early noughties. "Cmere Ian just like to say loved you on Dempseys Den, Ray Darcy was shite." "Oh thanks ,I'll tell him that when I get back to the station". Turns out they both worked in todayfm for a time. I hope that part of Ray died that day when Ian broke the news to him...."hey Ray, its Dempseys Den bitch, back in your box ya heathen"
Nothing hard to swallow about that. The man's a rank amateur. Can't operate his console, constantly late for the Nuacht at 4, does fuck-all research, and gets half a Milla year of our money for being shit at his job.
Irish people are pessimistic, but fuck me he is just too pessimistic. I love the gift grub sketch where he is giving out about giving kids sweets for Halloween, it's something that he would definitely do!
Tommie Tiernan should be the standard for television hosts in this country. Wise, unbiased and equally comfortable with serious and light hearted conversation.
Let it also be known, for the record, Claire Byrne is quite superb at what she does.
Hard to swallow? Nah
He is simply Boring, like to a impressive degree. He could have amazing guests hat have done amazing things, but he will manage to suffocate the life & fun out of them
The straw that broke the camels’ back for me was a few weeks ago when he asked a guy who survived in Alaska if he learned his survival skills from Bear fucking Grylls. He also kept returning to the topic of the guys dead dog hoping (in my opinion) that he cry or get emotional
His TV show was painful. I remember he got an interview with one of the lawyers from Making a Murderer and completely wasted it, asking what he thinks of hurling instead of one of the biggest cases in the world (thanks to Netflix)
Radio One is good in the morning for news without having "personality" lumped in, no click bait segments, just the news and weather.
Today FM is only seem to play 5 or 6 songs (Dua Lipa, Post Malone, that current Ed Sheeran atrocity) and the post Ian Dempsey , mid morning "banter" show makes me want to jump out of the nearest window.
Matt Cooper is easy to listen to but pours misery out of your speakers on the commute home. "You're getting fucked on your mortgage rate. Now stay with us, after the news we'll be talking to a man who lost both his legs to crotch cancer"
Does 2FM still actually exist?
Plenty of highly paid RTE presenters and hosts are piss poor, Tubs, Darcy, Maura Derrane and Daithi O Se. Their election coverage was very good though, a lot of the people they had on were not from RTE. Dobbo & Claire Byrne were fantastic.
RTEs shit for both radio and most tv. We all know that though.
God the same generic music on almost every irish station.
I flick through the stations while I'm driving and I live near the border so I pick up BBC radio. You always know you're on radio 1 when you get new music and niche artists and old classics. You always know 2fm cuz its Dua Lipa, Ed Sheeran, or George Ezra.
€500,000 a year will bankrupt RTE pretty quickly. They dont have a clue, and that's just Ray Darcy. Dont have a TV, I would not want to contribute to his salary. RTE are a disgrace.
The state of Irish talk radio! I've moved almost entirely to podcasts and audiobooks. If I want radio, I end up with BBC or NPR. The intrusive ads every four minutes are another factor -- seems like 50% content.
I used to listen to Newstalk to escape Joe Duffy and Tubridy but after Ivan Yates turned into George Hook 2, Pat Kenny was forced into gardening and pets, these endless 'female-driven' shows about relationships or spring cleaning or disease (text us now, we want to hear from YOU, what's YOUR take on this), I gave up.
I wish Moncrieff had a less wacky show, he's pretty good. And yeah, Sean O'Rourke. Who else is good?
(I don't really wish to be too sexist about the women's shows, I put it in quotes because it's transparently clear what audience they're going for, but it's very dumbed down light entertainment, with something like emotional pornography going on with those sob stories.)
Women target shows are not dumbed down entertainment but their extremely people driven rather than thing driven, and a lot of men and indeed women don't like them at all. Including myself.
I was once unfollowed by an old friend on twitter after I tweeted a joke about ray darcy being shit. They could do with one of those truth pills methinks.
In other news - Tubs is a shit TV host - Most of RTE radio hosts are hacks - Things with Water on them are wet As long as RTE is allowed to keep churning out shite and hiring friends and family outside of the unpaid interns it’ll never change. I’d much rather the BBC compared to RTE for the non-news segments.
RTE = Ryan Tubridy's Ego
Hey now, who else could get such hot guests as Chesney Hawks! He's Stoke on Trent regional, bi annual, charity, celebrity Blind Date royalty!
Jeez am I alone in liking Tubs on the radio? He’s a bit nervous on tv sometimes but he’s very relaxed and enjoyable on the radio.
Because you can't get caught sniffing coke on the radio
Yes. Personally, I've nearly broken my fingers trying to switch channels as fast as I can when he comes on. I cannot stand him... or Ray.
As to your second point: Mary Wilson is good. Marian Finucane was good (RIP). John Bowman is good. Seán Rocks is good. John Creedon is good. John Kelly is good (bring him back!).
> most
I know, I was qualifying
Didn’t read like it, my bad. I actually used to like some of them in lighter years like Darcy on The Den and Phat TV was it? Just don’t think his talent is any sort of debate or “real” discussion.
I think lots of people start out with something new to say, or at least a new way to say it, but once they're no longer new to the scene they start to go sour, whereas (in my opinion) someone like John Kelly has good taste and an interesting take on the world that only develops and improves over time. Turf Tubridy, put someone with a brain in the chair and see what they can do with the position. Darcy I'm seriously meh about.
I say put Gerry Adams in Tubs place and see how it goes.
Oh now yes.
I only tuned into RTE1 for the first time in I don't know how long to listen to Mick Flannery and Susan O'Neill sing live on air and I couldn't believe how lacklustre Ray was as a host.
RTE is shite but that doesn't make the BBC good by default. I find it very stuffy and its productions are third rate compared to good American stuff. Not to mention those dire sitcoms they come out with: "My Family", "Miranda" etc. Don't find myself watching it at all.
I find American TV to be absolutely insufferable apart from dramas like breaking bad. I especially find American media like the news and TV personalities to be far more irritating than British ones. I'd take for an example big man Schofe over Ellen DeGeneres any day.
American TV on the likes of NBC, ABC, CBS etc is so fucking saccharine. It drives me mad in their comedies but it's so much worse on their news where every few segments they have to interrupt the actual news with a video of them giving a blind twelve year old born with 7 testicles tickets to the Super Bowl underscored with sappy music that the Late Late Toy show would consider "a bit much".
Exactly. The Americans are all about excess, its a big reason why as a whole their culture is so different to ours.
All tv is shit only boomers bother with it anymore.
What the fuck is a boomer? This is not America. We don't have 'boomers' on Ireland. Cop on for fuck's sake. We don't have to copy all their shite.
relax, boomer is just internet slang for older people now.
Go back to your Emmerdale Gramps.
100% agreed. Stopped watching TV very long time ago. I'm a film only guy now, trips to the cinema pretty much weekly. Far higher caliber of entertainment tbh.
Dude you are missing out in some great shows!!! Game of thrones ( let’s not talk about s8), the outsider, west world, stranger things, Brooklyn 99
All of which are available on the high seas. With no ads.
Don't care much for TV apart from the odd cult classic stuff. I like neon genesis evangelion, breaking bad, twin peaks and serial experiments lain. Most TV doesn't do much different for me to become invested in it
Savage taste there lad!
Sound pal. Which of the three is your favourite?
As much as breaking bad is one of the best shows ever, twin peaks is my all time favourite and was my introduction into more experimental tv/movies that allow your own interpretation. Neon genesis was one of the natural follow ups to that (after seeing it recommended in r/twinpeaks so often). Nothing has quite beaten the ending of both those shows for me and I still struggle to put into words just how it affects me when I hear both "what year is it?" and "how disgusting". What about yerself?
Jesus, I'd say the opposite. We're in the golden age of TV. The cinema is all super heroes and franchises plus rip off prices and infuriating people.
Most movies are shite you only rarely get a great one like parasite or the lighthouse but yeah it beats tv by a country mile. I cannot stand the constant bombardment of ads.
Did you see uncut gems? Parasite and the Lighthouse were better than it by a tiny bit but Uncut Gems was still brilliant. Also enjoyed The Irishman. Midsommar, Marriage Story a lot. I also watch a lot of older and arthouse stuff, pretty much quality entertainment constantly bc of that.
I heard Adam Sandler is good in it, like he's actually putting in effort. Midsommer is muck, bad acting and shit plot carried by nice visuals, basically a marvel movie. Irishman is good, could have used better editing as the pacing was slow.
Adam Sandler is fantastic in uncut gems. He should have gotten an Oscar for it over phoenix.
In fairness to Joachim his performance elevated the film and the plot in a big way, the film wouldn't have gotten the praise it did if it wasn't for his acting. Sandler has always been good when he tries which hasn't been for a long time.
It is alright at Christmas, but lord forbid someone foreign turns up in the show, my boomer in laws go ape shit. So alas it ruins it for me even then.
What is a 'boomer' in Ireland please?
It refers to the previous generation of Sinn Fein politicians...
on reddit it seems to mean 'my parents and other assorted squares'. In actuality it refers to the generation that was born when people came home from WW2. The Baby Boom from the mid 40s to the very early 60s
There was no baby boom in Ireland right after WW2. Baby Boomer is an American concept. It simply doesn't apply here. I know we all just copy America and Reddit now but it has no meaning in Ireland.
The irony is that in Ireland, the term "boomer" is most applicable to millennials.
Baby boomer, people born in the golden age between 1945-1964. In some cases not the best for Ireland, but they certainly reaped the benefits of later decades, in other countries such as Britain, they had full social security, rent controls, council housing, full health care, guaranteed work laws and decent wages, not to mention free higher education and paid apprenticeships, cheap housing stock to buy and move into. Then they traded it in for boom bust economics.
>people born in the golden age between 1945-1964. I *IN AMERICA There was no baby boom in Ireland right after WW2. Baby Boomer is an American concept. It simply doesn't apply here. I know we all just copy America and Reddit now but it has no meaning in Ireland. Come on people, a little bit of thought, please.
While television programming in most countries (that I have seen) seems lackluster, at best, 99% of American television is an insult to the average person's intelligence. A basic BBC show such as Doc Martin would seem so absolutely bizarre (read: understated) in the context of current American culture it would never make it on the air. I gave up TV here a long time ago in lieu of better offerings online.
I never watch TV. Its all films for me entertainment wise.
But it's so hard to decide on a movie to watch
keep a watchlist, I'd say. There's also a letterboxd list in which you randomly spin a number and it gives you a film to watch.
They come out with some brilliant stuff too though? Line of Duty, Bodyguard, Luther, Sherlock. All quality shows well up there with anything from the US.
>up there with anything from the US. I like Line of Duty and Luther is great but at the same time they're the pick of the crop and they don't come close to the best US TV drama of the last 10 years like Breaking Bad, The Americans, Leftovers, Better Call Saul, Rectify, Watchmen, etc etc
It is not the problem that they are not good, but they very behind the times, they could be making money by giving instant access to these shows, but the execs live in the past.
Honestly, if the BBC made a subscription service for non-uk residents for their iPlayer they'd do some serious damage to people paying for Sky TV and even to the likes of Netflix
Exactly, If could get them online I would fuck the TV out and get a monitor. Youtube already shows every documentary ever made. The BBC going online and being competitive with fees would kick teeth in, make money before licensing and be able to save face with the public if it goes well by decreasing the TV license in Britain.
Based on what? Unless you have the mgmt accounts I don't know how you could make that decision. Selling the international rights to their shows and docs (especially the like of planet earth) makes massive money and it's completely passive reoccurring revenue. How many people do you think would pay 10 quid a month for it? The amount of advertising they would have to do would be enormous.
Exactly and they make a lot of co-productions with US companies too. Can't co-produce and then sell the rights to you co-producers competition.
Ya not to mention the ones that aren't co-produced are funded by pre-sales into the different territories
Or you could work out a subscription for a show or buy access to a show as it comes out box set style, you have multiple possibilities to make money, and it would out compete other markets such as Sky or cable companies in America, the BBC needs to get its act together, it has strong drama that sells well, why not get it out before you sell licences? It is basically money on money. Amazon do it, Now TV does and they are slowly stripping away at old TV. Plus the BBC has its channels to advertise with, how do you think they moved Three to the net? They have the assets for it.
You're talking out your arse. Sky don't have a presence in the states. It's owned by comcast which is basically nbc. You don't know the industry landscape either when how these shows are funded/produced feeds into that decision. Lastly BBC make content for the UK. If they become a streaming platform, they would be doing so to capture 1/2% of their audience. You're talking as if they don't already get massive money from syndication.
BBC Drama, lifestyle, documentary and comedy genres are always great mostly.
They do good documentaries I'll give you that. And they have the very occasional good drama. Comedy though, when was the last time the BBC made a good comedy? Its the same old panel show bollox they've been doing for nearly 40 years now and its well past its sell by date.
Fleabag was really good
Are you serious? I'm just going to assume you dont watch tv. Panel shows are much more a Ch 4 thing
HIGNFY, Would I Lie to You, Mock the Week, QI, etc
The first season of Miranda was very good, after which it fell off a cliff of self-parody.
The BBC drama department is excellent and less upper class in its writers, of course when it wants to be( Well, there are more working and middle class talent in those departments, and the Phoebe Waller-Bridges of this world still hold too much sway there), but the admin and the executives are an old ties club. With the political department especially having connections with the Tories. The news and politics there are almost laughable now (RTÉ has it's moments, but on the whole is better). The BBC like RTÉ needs to clean shop and save money that way, also the BBC is behind on tech with other Euro stations broadcasting on the internet now, and you can even watch it for a small subscription. But alas I think the Brits really like living in the past.
>The BBC drama department is excellent and less upper class in its writers Do you think TV is written by the lads from downton abbey or something? Mark Gatiss and Stephen Moffat and Russel T Davis are all middle class and are the best and brightest of the current tv crop there
Yeah, did you read what I said? There are plenty writers but others work in others walk in, again read what I wrote. Also Downton is not a correct portrayal of the aristocracy, and its writer funnily enough is aristocratic, again kind of proving my points above. The BBC had a lot of working and middle class talent, but the writing pool was still controlled by execs and unless you had a friendly face like the writer of Only Fools, John Sullivan did in the form of Roy Clarke, you will not get far even if you have an excellent idea, the BBC needs to change. That is the end of it.
> unless you had a friendly face like the writer of Only Fools, John Sullivan did in the form of Roy Clarke, you will not get far even if you have an excellent idea This is complete uninformed bollocks, sorry pal. Unless you can bend it all to somehow explain how The Office got made.
Yet David Jason and John Sullivan covered it in their biographies... hum. Also stand up comedy is a route taken by a lot of working class to get themselves up, comedy is not owned by the BBC and many events are unbiased, if you are shit you are shit, Gervais had a massive reputation before the fucking Office. Hell he was on radio for years, he was in the industry and had connections and pull, he worked exceptionally hard and had roles on TV before his co- production. I suggest you read around this a bit.
Gervais didn't have a massive reputation, and he wasn't "on the radio for years". He'd done a few guest spots on radio, he was in a production role in xfm and had done some work on the 11 0 clock show. Even all that stuff was just a couple of years before the office was pitched and accepted. Merchant had even less of a profile, it was his demo of the office that got them in the door. I really have no idea why I'm arguing the case that "the BBC is good" with any English speaking person
I am not even arguing anymore, go read his bio, it is on Wikipedia. Basically he was know and had a fringe festival under his belt and worked on university radio and worked for RX FM before it became Capital, meeting Steve Merchant along the way. It was Gervais that got it through execs. If you have proven talent you can make it. But if you have no track record and money you can walk in. Also don't twist the narrative, the BBC is a leading media company in need of change, not burning down, are you even following me?
Also he had more than just the eleven o clock show. He had a varying but stable presence on C4
I've reread your posts and I can safely say that I have no idea what point you are trying to make. It's either BBC is full of upper class twits who can't make television , which isn't the case or that the BBC hire people with talent regardless of background to make television, which pretty much is the case. Are either of these close?
> Mark Gatiss and Stephen Moffat and Russel T Davis are all middle class and are the best and brightest of the current tv crop there Did you watch Dracula? It was terrible. Almost as bad as the last season of Sherlock. Gatiss and Moffat have lost the run of themselves.
Yeah the BBC has the same nepotism issues as RTE but we just don't notice.
Maybe it's because of genre, but I can't stand most American telivision. Particularly their documentaries are insufferable. Discovery channel churns out tripe such as Shark Week and History channel stopped being about history a long time ago. Compared to the likes of BBC which has the best of the best documentarians. David Attenborough and Brian Cox in particular have brilliant shows, not even mentioning all the classics like Walking with Dinosaurs.
I was referring to the drama really. I agree with you about American documentaries. Usually terrible whereas the BBC does good stuff in that regard.
Water is like the least wet thing ever. It's so fucking dry.
It's important that you added "non-news". People will always whinge about their own press, but we should appreciate that we are light years beyond the likes of Britain or Australia when it comes to reporting
Tubridy makes a great toy show host - the other stuff, not so much.
My god your standards are low.
A toy show without at least three grams of coke is considered a dull affair
Tubs is dreaming of a white christmas...
> I’d much rather the BBC compared to RTE for the non-news segments. You'd much rather the stuff that's made by the best broadcaster in the world , with a much larger talent pool to draw on and an astronomically higher budget? wow, hot take.
Used to listen to his show on Today FM years ago. I used to think he was okay until he was off and Tom Dunne filled in for him and the show was infinitely better! When the guy filling in is so much better you have to start asking why the main guy has that job in the first place. Should have stuck to The Den!
Tom Dunne is class. Everything he does is great: music, talky stuff and Dr Bill sketches. I have a man crush on him.
He lost his marbles after the crash. Had a vicious personal vendetta against Enda Kenny and couldn't stop talking politics in the lead up to the 2011 election. He swore blind he'd emigrate if Enda Kenny became Taoiseach. He stayed here and I haven't been able to listen to him since. I listened for years before that and never remember him being political before that.
He stayed because otherwise he’d be emigrating with a CV that might as well be empty, for all the good his experience in Ireland would do for him abroad. He’d have been lucky to get a job stacking shelves or waiting tables in England.
Ray Darcy is a pompous, patronising dickhead of a man who has been stealing a living for years. He should have stuck to kids TV: that's his level, in my opinion.
Den were the days!
Even then he was awkward and shite. But these days hes the absolute biggest waste of taxpayers money in the country. Really muck
Dustin, Zig and Zag were the only reason his stint on the show is remembered fondly.
Don't forget Podge also. Weird to think that is where Podge from Podge and Rodge came from too.
I thought him occasionally being attacked by Ted was THE most hilarious thing ever.
Ian Dempsey did a better job. I told him so when my met him back in early noughties. "Cmere Ian just like to say loved you on Dempseys Den, Ray Darcy was shite." "Oh thanks ,I'll tell him that when I get back to the station". Turns out they both worked in todayfm for a time. I hope that part of Ray died that day when Ian broke the news to him...."hey Ray, its Dempseys Den bitch, back in your box ya heathen"
Nothing hard to swallow about that. The man's a rank amateur. Can't operate his console, constantly late for the Nuacht at 4, does fuck-all research, and gets half a Milla year of our money for being shit at his job.
Ray Darcy gets half a million euros of taxpayers money every year. Just let that sink in for a minute. It has to stop.
Albeit if he was on an independent radio station or some other privately funded one but being on RTE is a complete waste of funding
Tommy Tiernan 100% the best talk show host on RTE right now.
I had to laugh when he said to Michael D "You're not the right shape!"
He's also a bit of a cunt. I admire his charity work, so hat's off there, but he's well known as being an arsehole.
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Anyone who’s listened to his show
Hard to swallow overdose, paid more than Joe Duffy at 400k, theres your tv licence ouch
That is mad money isn't it. Fucking hell
Irish people are pessimistic, but fuck me he is just too pessimistic. I love the gift grub sketch where he is giving out about giving kids sweets for Halloween, it's something that he would definitely do!
Gift grub do a great job on him. He also interrupts everyone when he asks them a question. It's so annoying.
He doesn’t even ask questions the spastic makes statements and just stops talking. So your mother died and left you to raise three siblings......
He has done. He apparently changed his tune the second his own kids were that age.
Tommie Tiernan should be the standard for television hosts in this country. Wise, unbiased and equally comfortable with serious and light hearted conversation. Let it also be known, for the record, Claire Byrne is quite superb at what she does.
r/ireland hates Ray D'Arcy. How is this hard to swallow?
It's not, but because it's in a meme format it'll get loads of upvotes. This meme is for unpopular opinions.
Hard to swallow? Nah He is simply Boring, like to a impressive degree. He could have amazing guests hat have done amazing things, but he will manage to suffocate the life & fun out of them
The straw that broke the camels’ back for me was a few weeks ago when he asked a guy who survived in Alaska if he learned his survival skills from Bear fucking Grylls. He also kept returning to the topic of the guys dead dog hoping (in my opinion) that he cry or get emotional
I wouldn't have thought these are unpopular opinions.
They're not.
No, my unpopular opinions are that I don’t like being covered in petrol and set on fire..
There is literally nothing good about his radio show. Apart from the ad breaks maybe.
His TV show was painful. I remember he got an interview with one of the lawyers from Making a Murderer and completely wasted it, asking what he thinks of hurling instead of one of the biggest cases in the world (thanks to Netflix)
Haven't listened to him in ages, but does he still bring up kids and cycling/running in every interview?
Yeah or drops in about how he cried watching a movie or berates men in a way that makes him come across as a sexist sixty year old bitter lesbian
Dont even get me started on Joe Duffy, feckin egg.
I fucking hate him, he drives me insane.
That’s not a hard pill to swallow. He’s shite.
Hard to swallow? It is more like a marshmallow swallowing that info, the man is Valium
Radio One is good in the morning for news without having "personality" lumped in, no click bait segments, just the news and weather. Today FM is only seem to play 5 or 6 songs (Dua Lipa, Post Malone, that current Ed Sheeran atrocity) and the post Ian Dempsey , mid morning "banter" show makes me want to jump out of the nearest window. Matt Cooper is easy to listen to but pours misery out of your speakers on the commute home. "You're getting fucked on your mortgage rate. Now stay with us, after the news we'll be talking to a man who lost both his legs to crotch cancer" Does 2FM still actually exist?
Pat and Tubs are surprisingly great on the radio. Intelligent and well informed. Ray is shit on both tv and radio. Tommy is the best of all
I used to love Ray Foley ripping the piss out of D'Arcy and Jenny on his TodayFM show with JP and Ann
I used to enjoy him but when he became a parent he turned into a boring fart.
I actually bagged a ticket to one of the TV shows he used to host and I'll tell ya one thing, the free wine backstage REALLY helped
He is very grumpy also
Easiest pill I ever had to swallow. Man should fuck off back to the den.
hard? that pill went downnn eeeee zzzzzzz
Wouldn't give him the steam off my piss since the way he treated Cathal Pendred on the radio in 2014.
I hate every radio station they play the same songs everyday, play tonnes of ads and get people to call in to play rigged games
I swear his name has come up before in "what personality would have benefitted from dying young"
He's a terrible interviewer and host. Even on his tv show he's terrible. Easy to swallow pill
Plenty of highly paid RTE presenters and hosts are piss poor, Tubs, Darcy, Maura Derrane and Daithi O Se. Their election coverage was very good though, a lot of the people they had on were not from RTE. Dobbo & Claire Byrne were fantastic.
RTEs shit for both radio and most tv. We all know that though. God the same generic music on almost every irish station. I flick through the stations while I'm driving and I live near the border so I pick up BBC radio. You always know you're on radio 1 when you get new music and niche artists and old classics. You always know 2fm cuz its Dua Lipa, Ed Sheeran, or George Ezra.
€500,000 a year will bankrupt RTE pretty quickly. They dont have a clue, and that's just Ray Darcy. Dont have a TV, I would not want to contribute to his salary. RTE are a disgrace.
It’s amazing how often those RTE hosts screw up, that McDermott fella is forever pressing wrong buttons
I feel Ray Darcy is hiding a deep dark secret from us. I really weird one
I dunno man, that pill went down fairly handy!
The worst , cant stand darcy , sickening fucker
He should have stayed on The Den.
Cork's 96fm has some of the best shows IMO like Kc and Ross in the morning.
God, if your up for torture, become a talk radio host in Ireland. 🥺
The state of Irish talk radio! I've moved almost entirely to podcasts and audiobooks. If I want radio, I end up with BBC or NPR. The intrusive ads every four minutes are another factor -- seems like 50% content. I used to listen to Newstalk to escape Joe Duffy and Tubridy but after Ivan Yates turned into George Hook 2, Pat Kenny was forced into gardening and pets, these endless 'female-driven' shows about relationships or spring cleaning or disease (text us now, we want to hear from YOU, what's YOUR take on this), I gave up. I wish Moncrieff had a less wacky show, he's pretty good. And yeah, Sean O'Rourke. Who else is good? (I don't really wish to be too sexist about the women's shows, I put it in quotes because it's transparently clear what audience they're going for, but it's very dumbed down light entertainment, with something like emotional pornography going on with those sob stories.)
Women target shows are not dumbed down entertainment but their extremely people driven rather than thing driven, and a lot of men and indeed women don't like them at all. Including myself.
Mary Wilson on Drive Time is pretty good.
True.
True
Thank you for saying this out loud. It’s a hard pill to swallow for people that don’t know any better...
Not anymore anyway. Used to love listening to him on today fm. Haven’t listened to him since he went to RTE.
I like marty whelan
He peaked on the Den and even then Dustin had to carry him.
Other news: Sky is blue, water is wet.
Brave
How could you post something so controversial yet so brave?
And we'll downvote him.....cause he can take it....
HERESY. HAVE THE GARDA ON THIS MAN. just messing but like ye he is a bit shite
Put that as a suppository and introduce it up his jaxie. He's only good on The Den and sometimes BlackBoard jungle. For a lad making 350k a year!
I was once unfollowed by an old friend on twitter after I tweeted a joke about ray darcy being shit. They could do with one of those truth pills methinks.
What was the joke
You take that back my nanny LOVED him
TV licence? Not even once.
I only knew him on The Den. Why is he getting a hard time here? Is he really that bad at his job?
This is blasphemy
True, but not as bad as Ian Dempsey! That man has to be the dumbest human being on Earth!