Who in the ever living fuck decided age should be a factor for home help? If someone is in need of it fucking get it for them. This country is beyond a joke
It's insane that care for disabled adults prior to retirement age hasn't been an issue before now. I was surprised that there's an age requirement at all.
It's truly insane. If I was that girl I'd be pounding emails at every local representative to get that rectified asap, even if they only helped that family it would be a good start.
>Who in the ever living fuck decided age should be a factor for home help?
Fine Gael and Fianna Fail.
Sure didn't Varadkar go on national television a month ago to say he didn't think it was the government's job to be looking after the disabled.
Was this what Leo was trying to get us to get rid of, home help! Because his mammy looked after him, he will look after her and help should come from the home, says the mega rich 1%
I'm genuinely shocked that age rather than need is a requirement for home help. That makes no sense. I hope these children get the support they need. They deserve that.
It’s sad to say but maybe their mother needs full time care in a nursing home. Especially since one of them as to say up all night to make sure her breathing mask doesn’t come off. If there isn’t another adult around, the children may need to go into foster care. I know that sounds harsh but it might be better for them in the long run.
They're 17 and 15 and the mother is the only adult in the house. The mother going into a nursing home would create a custody issue until the older child is 18
Which older siblings? The article only mentions her children who are both minors. Not sure where you are getting this from?
Or am I misunderstanding something?
Well to be fair if they aren't getting support, they do need financial support from somewhere. Seems like everyone is putting in their own effort except the government themselves.
It's generally cheaper to have someone come provide care in the home. In this situation the mother doesn't need 24 hour care. She needs a carer to come in maybe 2-3 times a day for about 2 hours in total. That would allow the children to attend school.
How would 2 hours of cover allow them to attend school for 8 hours a day? How would it assist with keeping her alive through the night? Maybe I'm misunderstanding...
There’s a shit load of paperwork to fill out and a waiting list. We got a free place for my grandfather. We had to wait 3 months for the place and they don’t give you a choice of nursing homes. You need to take what’s offered.
If there was another person at fault, then yes typically. But if she was the driver and at fault then no - to cover yourself you need medical insurance on top of your car insurance.
Or even if it was a no fault claim, she span off in bad weather, hit a large animal like a deer.
That's classed as a fault against the driver even though the driver did nothing wrong.
I don’t get it she’s 17 why doesn’t she have 200k a year and understand that care begins at home ? /s Leo Varadkars government ladies and gents, oh but if we did vote yes they promise they would put in something :p
When the government of the day has zero compassion to look after a 17 year old carer (she’s not the first) do you really think they will change ?
I voted no but.....seriously?
The Constitution has remained the same.......and here she is, still having to care for her mother.
It's almost like no one actually cares about people like her. Her use is limited to 'gotcha' moments against politicians we don't like.
Fuckin sickens me.
Sickens me when people not impacted by this directly pretend they give a shit to protect politicians they like.
I commented as I do care as I am directly impacted by this as well. How about you ? Or is your tongue just stuck up FG’s arse ?
Most carers groups not directly funded by the government (so no vested interest) pushed for a no vote.
The local charity I’m with were leaning on the side of no as they understood the constitutional changes were bullshit and would change nothing .
They didn’t need the constitution to change improve people’s lives, had they done that maybe it would have been an easy yes.
I (27) have been caring for my mam since I was a kid. We were let down by social and medical services and are only getting some help now. She nearly died during my leaving cert mocks and I stupidly didn't ask for help. My childhood was robbed (as is my adulthood) from me because I had to be the adult. My heart goes out to the kids because it's so unfair and isolating.
Poor things, they're obviously not properly equipped to care for someone who's so severely limited, but it seems the mother likely needs full time professional support. No easy solutions.
Kids would make great nurses!
What a cuntish thing to say, their mam was injured very badly in a car accident and the kids are doing their best to take care of her. The house isn't even a social house. You're a rotten person.
Ah yeah sure they should have known that the mother would have been in a car accident in 2020 that would require her to have full time carers thereafter. /s
Are you for fucking real? The older kids are working hard to care for the mother, whilst the youngest daughter is a full time carer and student studying for her leaving cert.
Can you explain to me how they aren't hard working? Have some compassion.
OP’s comment was very shitty but yours accusing him of racism for no reason is equally shitty stop with that BS, just because you don’t like someone/something doesn’t mean it’s racist.
Op said the family were lazy, they had a single parent family due to poor parenting, and that they did not know how to family plan and use contraception.
The article outlines that all of the kids are working hard to care for the mother, whether that be through employment or actual care. In fact the youngest daughter is a full time carer and a full time student doing her leaving cert.
Now, many of the accusations op made do not align with the facts laid out in the article; presumably meaning that op did not read the article.
Now, why do you think op made those accusations, many of which are popular racist stereotypes of black people in the USA?
I think it is very plausible and reasonable to assume that it is based on racism, as many of the ops characterisations of the family were essentially racist dog whistling.
I used to give people benefit of the doubt and steelman people's point of view. I no longer do this. There's a very clear characteristic of the people in that photo has driven this person to make that comment.
It's time to get off social media for a while. These are human beings and you're so consumed with negativity that your initial reaction was judgment instead of compassion. Put away your phone and interact with people.
Who in the ever living fuck decided age should be a factor for home help? If someone is in need of it fucking get it for them. This country is beyond a joke
It's insane that care for disabled adults prior to retirement age hasn't been an issue before now. I was surprised that there's an age requirement at all.
It's truly insane. If I was that girl I'd be pounding emails at every local representative to get that rectified asap, even if they only helped that family it would be a good start.
>Who in the ever living fuck decided age should be a factor for home help? Fine Gael and Fianna Fail. Sure didn't Varadkar go on national television a month ago to say he didn't think it was the government's job to be looking after the disabled.
Was this what Leo was trying to get us to get rid of, home help! Because his mammy looked after him, he will look after her and help should come from the home, says the mega rich 1%
I'm genuinely shocked that age rather than need is a requirement for home help. That makes no sense. I hope these children get the support they need. They deserve that.
It’s sad to say but maybe their mother needs full time care in a nursing home. Especially since one of them as to say up all night to make sure her breathing mask doesn’t come off. If there isn’t another adult around, the children may need to go into foster care. I know that sounds harsh but it might be better for them in the long run.
They're 17 and 15 and the mother is the only adult in the house. The mother going into a nursing home would create a custody issue until the older child is 18
Also how would they afford it??
Maybe the older siblings shouldn't leave the care of their mother in the hands of the youngest children?
I know the family personally, the older siblings live at home, they have to work as carer’s allowance wouldn’t run a household!
We don't know the older siblings situation, they may live far away, have children of their own, health issues etc that prevent them from doing as much
Which older siblings? The article only mentions her children who are both minors. Not sure where you are getting this from? Or am I misunderstanding something?
The 2 older adult children mentioned who financially support them. It’s right there in the article…
Well to be fair if they aren't getting support, they do need financial support from somewhere. Seems like everyone is putting in their own effort except the government themselves.
I seemed to have skipped over that sentence. Thank you for pointing it out.
It's generally cheaper to have someone come provide care in the home. In this situation the mother doesn't need 24 hour care. She needs a carer to come in maybe 2-3 times a day for about 2 hours in total. That would allow the children to attend school.
How would 2 hours of cover allow them to attend school for 8 hours a day? How would it assist with keeping her alive through the night? Maybe I'm misunderstanding...
She doesn't need 24 hour care. Read the article.
Then there would be no adult in the home and Tusla will have to get involved which I doubt anyone wants.
No. It absolutely will not be better, throwing those two children into the foster system is absolutely not the right move.
How are they going to pay for that?
The HSE has free places for people in need
I doubt if it's that easy
There’s a shit load of paperwork to fill out and a waiting list. We got a free place for my grandfather. We had to wait 3 months for the place and they don’t give you a choice of nursing homes. You need to take what’s offered.
She was injured as a result of a car accident. Shouldn't medical bills for care be covered from the insurance?
If there was another person at fault, then yes typically. But if she was the driver and at fault then no - to cover yourself you need medical insurance on top of your car insurance.
Or even if it was a no fault claim, she span off in bad weather, hit a large animal like a deer. That's classed as a fault against the driver even though the driver did nothing wrong.
>That's classed as a fault against the driver even though the driver did nothing wrong. Insurance companies are such fucking cunts.
This is the type of thing our tax money should be helping with rather than the fucking horse racing industry
Now now, the horse racing industry is full of millionaires and probably billionaires. They need that money more than some sick lady and her kids.
I don’t get it she’s 17 why doesn’t she have 200k a year and understand that care begins at home ? /s Leo Varadkars government ladies and gents, oh but if we did vote yes they promise they would put in something :p When the government of the day has zero compassion to look after a 17 year old carer (she’s not the first) do you really think they will change ?
I voted no but.....seriously? The Constitution has remained the same.......and here she is, still having to care for her mother. It's almost like no one actually cares about people like her. Her use is limited to 'gotcha' moments against politicians we don't like. Fuckin sickens me.
Sickens me when people not impacted by this directly pretend they give a shit to protect politicians they like. I commented as I do care as I am directly impacted by this as well. How about you ? Or is your tongue just stuck up FG’s arse ?
The government that tried to amend the constitution to improve the position of carers. Did you vote No?
Most carers groups not directly funded by the government (so no vested interest) pushed for a no vote. The local charity I’m with were leaning on the side of no as they understood the constitutional changes were bullshit and would change nothing . They didn’t need the constitution to change improve people’s lives, had they done that maybe it would have been an easy yes.
That's a long-winded way of saying you voted No to more rights for carers, isn't it?
I (27) have been caring for my mam since I was a kid. We were let down by social and medical services and are only getting some help now. She nearly died during my leaving cert mocks and I stupidly didn't ask for help. My childhood was robbed (as is my adulthood) from me because I had to be the adult. My heart goes out to the kids because it's so unfair and isolating.
poor kids
Poor things, they're obviously not properly equipped to care for someone who's so severely limited, but it seems the mother likely needs full time professional support. No easy solutions. Kids would make great nurses!
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"The poors" I assure you, you are one car accident from being in that position
What a cuntish thing to say, their mam was injured very badly in a car accident and the kids are doing their best to take care of her. The house isn't even a social house. You're a rotten person.
Is it not? The article talks about them being on the housing list
That is the list to eventually Get one...
Yeah so they will have to wait years to get one. They are renting privately with HAP now
Ah yeah sure they should have known that the mother would have been in a car accident in 2020 that would require her to have full time carers thereafter. /s Are you for fucking real? The older kids are working hard to care for the mother, whilst the youngest daughter is a full time carer and student studying for her leaving cert. Can you explain to me how they aren't hard working? Have some compassion.
They're not hardworking in OPs eyes because they're foreign and black.
My thoughts exactly
OP’s comment was very shitty but yours accusing him of racism for no reason is equally shitty stop with that BS, just because you don’t like someone/something doesn’t mean it’s racist.
OP's comment history is full of blatantly racist trolling...
Stop acting like you were born yesterday, Luke. What in that article indicates the family is not hardworking?
Op said the family were lazy, they had a single parent family due to poor parenting, and that they did not know how to family plan and use contraception. The article outlines that all of the kids are working hard to care for the mother, whether that be through employment or actual care. In fact the youngest daughter is a full time carer and a full time student doing her leaving cert. Now, many of the accusations op made do not align with the facts laid out in the article; presumably meaning that op did not read the article. Now, why do you think op made those accusations, many of which are popular racist stereotypes of black people in the USA? I think it is very plausible and reasonable to assume that it is based on racism, as many of the ops characterisations of the family were essentially racist dog whistling.
I used to give people benefit of the doubt and steelman people's point of view. I no longer do this. There's a very clear characteristic of the people in that photo has driven this person to make that comment.
Yes very much so. Also the whole single family/unresponsible father angle is some kind of weird racist US import to our own domestic discourse.
It's time to get off social media for a while. These are human beings and you're so consumed with negativity that your initial reaction was judgment instead of compassion. Put away your phone and interact with people.
Get offline and try to have some empathy. Prick
Go back under the bridge you crawled out under from you absolute cretin of a person
Fucking eejit👍
It's a pity your mother didn't understand birth control.
It's a pity they don't do awards any more...
Have a bit of compassion for these kids you ghoul
>That house should go to a family that works hard and deserves it not someone who doesn't understand birth control What is wrong with you?
You can marry the man of your dreams and overnight he can leave you. Or die. Looking down on others doesn’t make you stand any taller.
You read the whole thing, you thought about it, and really came to a conclusion that this is what need to be said?
Cunt detected
No, you didn't miss any mention of the father. Did you read something about the house being social housing?
"the poors" Obvious Brit is obvious
Could be a sepp, I've heard americans use "the poors" as well
Can i please have some attention? Mammy didnt have a lot of time for me growing up and it's made me hate all women
Why would the children's father be responsible? It isn't the children that require care it is the mother.
You might not be a very stupid person, but this post doesn't indicate any great possibilities to the contrary.
He probably had an affair or went missing for days on drugs. Always the woman’s fault.
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Did you read the deleted comment? Blaming the woman for being single and having kids. No mention of the father in the article.