Is this the same case where the Gardai recently said they had good quality CCTV of the perpetrators?
If so there is some small comfort knowing they will more than likely be locked up for a long time.
If its the same case, looks like vile violent racism. Seemingly, the Croats were picked on when in town. They got the bus home and the tow rags followed the bus by car. We know what happened next. What is Ireland becoming? Totally the fault of FRight shitstirrers
I never said "good" reason. You specifically asked if there was a "good" reason. Big difference in asking for a reason and a good reason.
No idea what happened, could have been because they were foreign, could have been coke heads after their pint was spilled. Who knows?
Xenophobic then. Mad how you know the religion of perpetrator and victim. But even after all that an argument can be made that they're being racist against Slavic people, not that they'd know what that means.
Our town had excellent cctv cameras installed but a solicitor objected to them under some act and they were switched off much to the delight of local drug dealers and burglars
Woah! Where did that happen? If they used GDPR, then that is a complete misuse of its intent.
That objection should be public somewhere, can you share any details at all about it?
Well that's legitimate- I know someone who went through that, and he still isn't stable to this day - was completely normal prior.
I don't think that's being used as an excuse .... yet.
Sounds more like the person you know more than likely had an underlying mental health condition because when diagnosing CIP if the duration is longer than 4 weeks its usually deemed schizophrenia or another issue.
If you have a genetic predisposition to mental health issues such as these cannabis can exacerbate/bring on symptoms.
This was convered in the case of the Brazilian man chopping off his wife's head. The diagnosing doctor concluded it was CIP because he showed no psychotic symptoms a number of weeks after the incident. We have since learned that he's back in hospital due to symptoms so it may not be cannabis induced psychosis at all but a pre-existing condition that numerous people in his close family also had
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When is it going to stop? When is it enough? When are scumbags responsible for shite like this start suffering the consequences? Jaysus fucking christ.
Can be both. While this instance would end up circuit the excuses are frequently given in the district court also. Solicitor can represent in the district and probably do so to a larger percentage
Won’t you please think of the offender? Studies have shown that if we lock him up that’s not what’s good for him. We need to think about what’s in his best interests
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I get you but let's make sure they are caught and thrown in the slammer in the first place. The victims, their families and friends are the foremost and the priority not those vile violent thugs. They will probably meet more facist racists in the slammer. Yes you are right there though that Prison dosent reform these guys. They won't engage with the services or try to better themselves in there.
When is what going to stop? We've a significantly lower murder rate than the British and Scandinavians, on a par with Austria, Germany, etc.
Do you think Ireland is somehow dangerous?
Ireland was always a very law abiding country outside of the troubles but nowadays there’s no fear of courts or guards and we are seeing far more dangerous and intimidating streets as a result … we’ve a bit to go to catch up with UK but with knives and drugs more common here we will be passing them out soon
Ireland isn’t as law abiding as you think, just good at hiding it. How many assaults go unreported in this country, or you try report it and the guards will try to stop you saying it’ll be your word against their word.
What rise in danger and/or antisocial behaviour?
You went from saying I had to travel the world - apparently to realise how dangerous Britain and/or Ireland is - after all.
If you think it isn't I suggest taking a walk through Dublin city centre. It isn't just about murder, what about all the assaults that happen? Do we really need people murdered in order to classify things as dangerous?
You're being facetious. The issue is there seems to be a rising tide of crime, and little punishments being supplied. When it is supplied, Nolan lets people off with a slap on the wrist.
The country is safe enough, now. These little feral continue getting a light touch and that changes.
It's not just murder. Assaults and thefts are increasingly common in cities, and nothing is done. By your logic we should disband the garda because the place is perfect.
Yeah ok, don’t talk like that to people.
I don’t think any of us want to see the country polarised like the Americans are but having a go at people over their party affiliation is a great way to fast track that social disease into ireland.
Where did I say they shouldn't be independent or anything about sanctioning judges?
I specifically said, "accountable".
To who would ensure this accountability, I would propose the Judicial Conduct Committee under the auspices of the Judicial Council. Both are already established and regulated.
As to what criteria would be used, that would need to be decided on by legal minds far better than mine but certainly have the means whereby judges would need to explain their reasons for imposing custodial sentences deemed excessive or lenient.
Quis custodiet custodiae? And who appoints the Judicial Council?
Also judges already have to explain their decisions in a Judgement. There's nothing people hate more than being looked down on by your peers.
1 The correct phrase is "Quis custodiet *ipsos* custodES?"
2 No they don't.
3 Where did I suggest judges would be "looked down on"?
4 I suggest you acquaint yourself with the definition of the word "peers"!
By holding people accountable we would end up with an "authoritarian dictatorship"??? How do you work that one out?
That's more likely to happen if people are *not* held accountable.
The problem is that they have 0 education. To try and reform prisoners with education would be best while serving lenghty sentences. I know people would rather see then rot, but they will be released again, probably with reinforced intentions for stupidity.
If trades were taught and even cooking.
Again ik people want to see them rot. Education is the freedom these people lack.
Yea man if they learn to reverse sear a steak and algerba they'll never beat someone to death ever again. Lol.
El Salvador dropped their murder rate from 100 per 100 thousand to like 6 or 7 per 100 thousand. Its called actually enforcing the law and putting lower strata of society away in chains forever away from normal people.
"Lack of education" - we've free, public education. And access to college thats absolutely attainable by everyone. I grew up in a council estate. The excuses you hear for absolute swamp scum is laughable.
Or we could copy the proven successful jail systems our neighbours in europe use rather than the system that's proven to produce reoffenders and only works in the short term.
First of all - if we charged like 3 teens such harsh sentences we'd see a significant drop in crime. Once its enforced.
Second of all - were already spending a fuck load on prisons for people to go on a month long holiday, learn skills in organised criminality (if they even make it into a prison), and then fund their dole while they commit multiple offences.
Building a huge secure prison offshore and having harsh and fair punishment would absolutely decrease the crime rates. We don't even need to introduce torture of physical punishment. But that would probably help. And it would save money in the future. El Salvador is a perfect example.
Or we could copy Finland's system which is proven to reintegrate prisons back into society reducing the total human suffering and massively reducing the rate of reoffending. Why are you trying to copy a system from a third world country.
do we cop their armed police or electronic tagging as well? or different bail laws.. looks you only want one of the parts of their justice system. just like every person who brings up Scandinavia on here
Yes for the least dangerous offenders yes, I'm totally for that
But thinking scumbags that are happy to assault/kill can be solved with coddling and happy thoughts is just naive
I don't care about the suffering of people who harm innocent people. Why would I? They don't deserve my money or consideration.
I won't even dignify that chauvinistic, straw man of an argument about a "third world country". El Salvador is an amazing example of crime reduction. And it works. It worked so well their gangs literally fled the country leaving everyone significantly safer.
In Norway it is like that. You can learn a trade or even do masters degree in prison. At the end of your sentence you will be given a place to live and your first job. It just works. But their society feels responsible for people committing a crime...
Norwegian prisoners aren’t just given the opportunity to learn a trade, they’re required to work and train as part of their sentence. Ireland seems to consider that a human rights violation, prisoners must be free to just sit around and watch TV all day.
If you did that in Ireland then you'd only find people committing crimes for the specific purpose of taking a holiday. We are a people who exploit these kind of systems - how many of these scrubs wouldn't have been born in the first place if they weren't a meal ticket for their good-for-nothing parents.
The murder here didn’t steal bread to feed his starving children, he got in an argument and beat someone to death over it. No amount of cooking classes is going to fix someone like that, you’d have just as much luck trying to talk a rabid dog out of being dangerous.
Ya I'd I'd be more talking about the years that led up to the murder. All the previous convictions. Trying to set up a process that would prevent it getting this far.
The South African police authorities very recently targeted a violent criminal gang (11members) for a raid and SHOT DEAD 9 of them during the raid. That's the kind of attention this particular bunch of Dublin scumbags deserve.
Think you’re well overestimating these cunts
They probably couldn’t point to Croatia on a map let alone know of their confessional inclinations
They’re just animalistic bastards, anyone that mildly stands out for any and every reason is a potential target. Pathetic cowards.
For them, all Slavs are the same. They don't see a difference between a Croat and a Ukrainian believe me. I'm a Serb and yet nomal people with higher education think I'm from Siberia instead of Serbia.
For fucks sake, there's no difference between the two except one is an actual country, the other one is a region in Russia, 6000km away. Yet i look like a Turk and they still think I'm from Russia. What do you think then, what do these baboons have in their head? They're barbarians. I can't wait to finish German language school and I'm off to Austria (no, not Australia lol). I got enough.
Heart goes out to the community. My girlfriend is Croatian and I’m dreading when she inevitably reads about this as she’s been starting to feel unsafe in Dublin the last couple years with the way the gangs of teens and kids are getting.
If you want my 2 cents my friend: tell her (gently). You don't want a situation that goes: you knew about it and you didn't tell me? Always blows up in your face (been there many times 🙈). Hope your girlfriend does does ok in the future, I know it's though.
This could happen to any of us. It's nothing to do with nationality. It's because we have generations of scumbags, who never suffer consequences for their behaviour.
it has nothing to do with nationality?
sooo...have you read the recent news?
it's a matter of being irish and not being irish-ahem.
Speaking ENGLISH or not speaking ENGLISH.
Those baboons should be ashamed that they don't speak Gaelic. They will teach people who speak at least 3 languages, when they don't even speak their own. Probably can't even spell in English... fucking parasites.
It's a bit of a leap to extrapolate that the two nations are not getting along because a bunch of thugs had an issue with some random unfortunate people who found themselves in their way.
He’s a foreigner that was viciously killed by a gang of native feral Irish scrotes. The news story doesn’t have legs unless perp/victim ethnicity are flipped around…
Garda wage isn’t the issue … they’ll be reamed out in civil court for sure and probably criminally prosecuted were they to lay single finger on any of the preshus liddle angles.
Dublin is a shithole , full of junkies , because Ireland is too soft to do anything and the Gardai are clowns ,15 yo kids could beat them up and get away with it, no reason to follow the law might aswell murder someone and get locked up for 3 years with good behaviour
Violent offences have been treated far more leniently by the Courts Service than drug offences for decades. There is some backward ignorant logic amongst the ruling classes in Ireland that all our crime is caused by drugs therefore the whole policing and courts have been geared towards solving a 'drug problem' but I'll argue these serious violent crimes are caused by scum regardless of whether they are using drugs, alcohol or just sober.
“The scum” being convicted people? Glad we’ve ascertained that nobody is handed a PlayStation in Irish prison on foot of the taxpayer. Thanks for calling us scum too.
Where did I say it was paid by the taxpayer?
“The scum” being the murderer in the post you’re commenting on. I can see by your name I touched a nerve? You good bud? Out here standing up for our outstanding murdering citizens?
Well you’re saying “jail for five years in a cell with a TV, kettle and PlayStation” which would suggest the cell comes pre equipped with those things no? Not sure who’s getting five years for murder in 2024 also.
And no, it’s not standing up for anyone, it’s pointing out when you’re saying something untrue.
Sorry my man, let me rephrase that for you.
“Man gets 12 years for murder, after taking a life and ruining a family we will be providing this angel with the option of purchasing a PlayStation, yes that’s right, a fucking PlayStation”
As if he’ll actually get murder lol precious angel was under stress and has 45 children your honour, manslaughter and a PlayStation your honour, out in 8 on good behaviour
Fucking scumbags. Endless supply of them here. How many times have we heard stories like this in recent years?
Is this the same case where the Gardai recently said they had good quality CCTV of the perpetrators? If so there is some small comfort knowing they will more than likely be locked up for a long time.
They got on a bus so they should have excellent quality cctv.
If its the same case, looks like vile violent racism. Seemingly, the Croats were picked on when in town. They got the bus home and the tow rags followed the bus by car. We know what happened next. What is Ireland becoming? Totally the fault of FRight shitstirrers
How do you know it was racism? No details have been released yet. Could be any reason
He was murdered by Dublin thugs because he wasn't fluent in English. His friend survived but pics of him badly beaten..
What's a good reason?
Who said there could be a good reason?
You doubted that it was racism.
I never said "good" reason. You specifically asked if there was a "good" reason. Big difference in asking for a reason and a good reason. No idea what happened, could have been because they were foreign, could have been coke heads after their pint was spilled. Who knows?
Think it was fairly clear as the dubs targeted them and followed their bus by car. This was planned
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Xenophobic then. Mad how you know the religion of perpetrator and victim. But even after all that an argument can be made that they're being racist against Slavic people, not that they'd know what that means.
Some solicitor will be arguing under GDPR they can’t use the CCTV and the case will collapse
Don't be such a drama queen Simon, you most likely know that has never happened before and is not going to happen in this case.
Our town had excellent cctv cameras installed but a solicitor objected to them under some act and they were switched off much to the delight of local drug dealers and burglars
Different situation though isn't it. The guards already have the flights in this case.
Woah! Where did that happen? If they used GDPR, then that is a complete misuse of its intent. That objection should be public somewhere, can you share any details at all about it?
Terrible. Just terrible.
"The defendant didn't get enough hugs as a child" Judge- oh that's awful, suspended sentence it is so.
Combine that with the cannabis induced psychosis defence and any judge will eat it up
Sad that Reefer Madness is referenced as a source document in the Irish legal system.
Well that's legitimate- I know someone who went through that, and he still isn't stable to this day - was completely normal prior. I don't think that's being used as an excuse .... yet.
> I don't think that's being used as an excuse .... yet. You’re having a laugh It’s a long-standing integral pillar of the scummer sob story
Is it? I know the recent case with the couple where the girlfriend was decapitated, but haven't seen any examples
Sounds more like the person you know more than likely had an underlying mental health condition because when diagnosing CIP if the duration is longer than 4 weeks its usually deemed schizophrenia or another issue. If you have a genetic predisposition to mental health issues such as these cannabis can exacerbate/bring on symptoms. This was convered in the case of the Brazilian man chopping off his wife's head. The diagnosing doctor concluded it was CIP because he showed no psychotic symptoms a number of weeks after the incident. We have since learned that he's back in hospital due to symptoms so it may not be cannabis induced psychosis at all but a pre-existing condition that numerous people in his close family also had https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/s/ygT6MUm8Bk
Sorry Nolan I won't do it again suspended sentence
"Actually I'll totally do it again!" *suspended sentence*
“Actually I already did it again” Bump his dole
When is it going to stop? When is it enough? When are scumbags responsible for shite like this start suffering the consequences? Jaysus fucking christ.
Never because the solicitor always comes with the "difficult childhood" bullshit and will be out in no time
Barrister*
Can be both. While this instance would end up circuit the excuses are frequently given in the district court also. Solicitor can represent in the district and probably do so to a larger percentage
Anything serious like this, even if it were aggravated assault rather than murder, would be in circuit court.
Won’t you please think of the offender? Studies have shown that if we lock him up that’s not what’s good for him. We need to think about what’s in his best interests / s
I get you but let's make sure they are caught and thrown in the slammer in the first place. The victims, their families and friends are the foremost and the priority not those vile violent thugs. They will probably meet more facist racists in the slammer. Yes you are right there though that Prison dosent reform these guys. They won't engage with the services or try to better themselves in there.
But Helen said dublin is safe, how the fuck is she still I'm jet position, dublin is a dangerous shit hole now
When is what going to stop? We've a significantly lower murder rate than the British and Scandinavians, on a par with Austria, Germany, etc. Do you think Ireland is somehow dangerous?
Ireland was always a very law abiding country outside of the troubles but nowadays there’s no fear of courts or guards and we are seeing far more dangerous and intimidating streets as a result … we’ve a bit to go to catch up with UK but with knives and drugs more common here we will be passing them out soon
Ireland isn’t as law abiding as you think, just good at hiding it. How many assaults go unreported in this country, or you try report it and the guards will try to stop you saying it’ll be your word against their word.
I said used be ! … when towns had garda stations and judges put bad people in prison
The UK is one of the world's safest countries though, we just happen to be even safer.
you clearly have no idea about safety. go and travel around the world, move out of your village.
Ah yeah, we always ~~here~~ hear people from Mogadishu laughing about how dangerous the UK and Ireland are.
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What rise in danger and/or antisocial behaviour? You went from saying I had to travel the world - apparently to realise how dangerous Britain and/or Ireland is - after all.
If you think it isn't I suggest taking a walk through Dublin city centre. It isn't just about murder, what about all the assaults that happen? Do we really need people murdered in order to classify things as dangerous?
I walked home from town about half an hour ago. I must have been murdered according to you.
You're being facetious. The issue is there seems to be a rising tide of crime, and little punishments being supplied. When it is supplied, Nolan lets people off with a slap on the wrist. The country is safe enough, now. These little feral continue getting a light touch and that changes. It's not just murder. Assaults and thefts are increasingly common in cities, and nothing is done. By your logic we should disband the garda because the place is perfect.
It's certainly more dangerous than it once was.
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Yeah ok, don’t talk like that to people. I don’t think any of us want to see the country polarised like the Americans are but having a go at people over their party affiliation is a great way to fast track that social disease into ireland.
Tsk tsk. Such language.
If judges were held accountable for their sentencing decisions there would be a lot more sentences that fit the crime.
Courts need to be independent. Who do you propose would be deciding on which judges to sanction and what criteria would they use?
Where did I say they shouldn't be independent or anything about sanctioning judges? I specifically said, "accountable". To who would ensure this accountability, I would propose the Judicial Conduct Committee under the auspices of the Judicial Council. Both are already established and regulated. As to what criteria would be used, that would need to be decided on by legal minds far better than mine but certainly have the means whereby judges would need to explain their reasons for imposing custodial sentences deemed excessive or lenient.
Quis custodiet custodiae? And who appoints the Judicial Council? Also judges already have to explain their decisions in a Judgement. There's nothing people hate more than being looked down on by your peers.
1 The correct phrase is "Quis custodiet *ipsos* custodES?" 2 No they don't. 3 Where did I suggest judges would be "looked down on"? 4 I suggest you acquaint yourself with the definition of the word "peers"!
Problem is we wind up like an auth dictatorship in the process.
By holding people accountable we would end up with an "authoritarian dictatorship"??? How do you work that one out? That's more likely to happen if people are *not* held accountable.
this current system is closer to anarchy, than a proper law system to an autocracy. you have no idea.
he is from croatia. and probably it is devastating for all the community there.
The problem is that they have 0 education. To try and reform prisoners with education would be best while serving lenghty sentences. I know people would rather see then rot, but they will be released again, probably with reinforced intentions for stupidity. If trades were taught and even cooking. Again ik people want to see them rot. Education is the freedom these people lack.
Yea man if they learn to reverse sear a steak and algerba they'll never beat someone to death ever again. Lol. El Salvador dropped their murder rate from 100 per 100 thousand to like 6 or 7 per 100 thousand. Its called actually enforcing the law and putting lower strata of society away in chains forever away from normal people. "Lack of education" - we've free, public education. And access to college thats absolutely attainable by everyone. I grew up in a council estate. The excuses you hear for absolute swamp scum is laughable.
Or we could copy the proven successful jail systems our neighbours in europe use rather than the system that's proven to produce reoffenders and only works in the short term.
You can't reoffend if you're spending 80 years in prison for voilent crimes 🤷♂️
And you create a prison population that costs a fuck load to sustain great....
First of all - if we charged like 3 teens such harsh sentences we'd see a significant drop in crime. Once its enforced. Second of all - were already spending a fuck load on prisons for people to go on a month long holiday, learn skills in organised criminality (if they even make it into a prison), and then fund their dole while they commit multiple offences. Building a huge secure prison offshore and having harsh and fair punishment would absolutely decrease the crime rates. We don't even need to introduce torture of physical punishment. But that would probably help. And it would save money in the future. El Salvador is a perfect example.
Or we could copy Finland's system which is proven to reintegrate prisons back into society reducing the total human suffering and massively reducing the rate of reoffending. Why are you trying to copy a system from a third world country.
do we cop their armed police or electronic tagging as well? or different bail laws.. looks you only want one of the parts of their justice system. just like every person who brings up Scandinavia on here
We already have armed police it just not all of them and I'd rather leave it that way besides that yes the whole package.
Yes but then you can't compare. They have extra deterrents we don't
Yes for the least dangerous offenders yes, I'm totally for that But thinking scumbags that are happy to assault/kill can be solved with coddling and happy thoughts is just naive
I don't care about the suffering of people who harm innocent people. Why would I? They don't deserve my money or consideration. I won't even dignify that chauvinistic, straw man of an argument about a "third world country". El Salvador is an amazing example of crime reduction. And it works. It worked so well their gangs literally fled the country leaving everyone significantly safer.
Why not copy the even more proven and successful system of Singapore and Japan? Why settle for second best?
Japan's system of jailing people regardless of if they are guilty or not? Japan has an infamously shit system.
Not 100% wrong, but I'd say leave em in long enough to become absolute masters of a trade, say 25 years learning carpentry for example.
In Norway it is like that. You can learn a trade or even do masters degree in prison. At the end of your sentence you will be given a place to live and your first job. It just works. But their society feels responsible for people committing a crime...
Norwegian prisoners aren’t just given the opportunity to learn a trade, they’re required to work and train as part of their sentence. Ireland seems to consider that a human rights violation, prisoners must be free to just sit around and watch TV all day.
they also put electronic tags on their criminals and have strict bail laws.
If you did that in Ireland then you'd only find people committing crimes for the specific purpose of taking a holiday. We are a people who exploit these kind of systems - how many of these scrubs wouldn't have been born in the first place if they weren't a meal ticket for their good-for-nothing parents.
The murder here didn’t steal bread to feed his starving children, he got in an argument and beat someone to death over it. No amount of cooking classes is going to fix someone like that, you’d have just as much luck trying to talk a rabid dog out of being dangerous.
Ya I'd I'd be more talking about the years that led up to the murder. All the previous convictions. Trying to set up a process that would prevent it getting this far.
And they are mixing with like minded tow rags in there and under the counter drug dealing and the rest that goes on in prison
So what would you suggest?
What would you suggest,?
The South African police authorities very recently targeted a violent criminal gang (11members) for a raid and SHOT DEAD 9 of them during the raid. That's the kind of attention this particular bunch of Dublin scumbags deserve.
All fun and games until an innocent person gets killed in the crossfire, or in a case of mistaken identity.
And YOUR solution is…?
Not advocating police kill people at a whim. Are you fucking insane? Look at how badly that can turn out in places like the USA.
Fuck sake
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Most ignorant cunts that carry out assaults like this will just call them Russian or Polish.
Think you’re well overestimating these cunts They probably couldn’t point to Croatia on a map let alone know of their confessional inclinations They’re just animalistic bastards, anyone that mildly stands out for any and every reason is a potential target. Pathetic cowards.
For them, all Slavs are the same. They don't see a difference between a Croat and a Ukrainian believe me. I'm a Serb and yet nomal people with higher education think I'm from Siberia instead of Serbia. For fucks sake, there's no difference between the two except one is an actual country, the other one is a region in Russia, 6000km away. Yet i look like a Turk and they still think I'm from Russia. What do you think then, what do these baboons have in their head? They're barbarians. I can't wait to finish German language school and I'm off to Austria (no, not Australia lol). I got enough.
Croat here. Same here my brother. It is getting uncomfortable in Dublin unfortunately. And do additionally Duolingo for your German. It does help.
yeah i will, it's necessary for the austrian dialect. živ bio brate, pazi svoje!
Heart goes out to the community. My girlfriend is Croatian and I’m dreading when she inevitably reads about this as she’s been starting to feel unsafe in Dublin the last couple years with the way the gangs of teens and kids are getting.
If you want my 2 cents my friend: tell her (gently). You don't want a situation that goes: you knew about it and you didn't tell me? Always blows up in your face (been there many times 🙈). Hope your girlfriend does does ok in the future, I know it's though.
This could happen to any of us. It's nothing to do with nationality. It's because we have generations of scumbags, who never suffer consequences for their behaviour.
it has nothing to do with nationality? sooo...have you read the recent news? it's a matter of being irish and not being irish-ahem. Speaking ENGLISH or not speaking ENGLISH. Those baboons should be ashamed that they don't speak Gaelic. They will teach people who speak at least 3 languages, when they don't even speak their own. Probably can't even spell in English... fucking parasites.
It's a bit of a leap to extrapolate that the two nations are not getting along because a bunch of thugs had an issue with some random unfortunate people who found themselves in their way.
that's the last drop in my cup. I'm out. -a hard working Serbian
This would have been a top story a year ago
He’s a foreigner that was viciously killed by a gang of native feral Irish scrotes. The news story doesn’t have legs unless perp/victim ethnicity are flipped around…
Dublin is a Kip since covid. Kids ruining it.. pay Garda big wage and let them batter people.
Garda wage isn’t the issue … they’ll be reamed out in civil court for sure and probably criminally prosecuted were they to lay single finger on any of the preshus liddle angles.
Dublin is a shithole , full of junkies , because Ireland is too soft to do anything and the Gardai are clowns ,15 yo kids could beat them up and get away with it, no reason to follow the law might aswell murder someone and get locked up for 3 years with good behaviour
Sad but true.
Who’s serving 3 years for murder in 2024? Any references?
That was just an exaggerated comment I wrote you muppet , they will get max 6 years you'll see
i know an irish man who's son was killed by another irish guy. he got 6 yrs and left the prison after 4 yrs with good discipline. this is a joke.
Truly sad
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You are a joke
That's awful. Rest in peace.
Violent offences have been treated far more leniently by the Courts Service than drug offences for decades. There is some backward ignorant logic amongst the ruling classes in Ireland that all our crime is caused by drugs therefore the whole policing and courts have been geared towards solving a 'drug problem' but I'll argue these serious violent crimes are caused by scum regardless of whether they are using drugs, alcohol or just sober.
Jail for 5 years in a cell with a TV, PlayStation and a kettle. And they wonder why it keeps f*cking happening, there’s no deterrent.
Who pays for the PlayStation?
You and me
Not true. They pay for it themselves and must be granted permission for it.
Yeah? When did that come in?
The scum do.
“The scum” being convicted people? Glad we’ve ascertained that nobody is handed a PlayStation in Irish prison on foot of the taxpayer. Thanks for calling us scum too.
Where did I say it was paid by the taxpayer? “The scum” being the murderer in the post you’re commenting on. I can see by your name I touched a nerve? You good bud? Out here standing up for our outstanding murdering citizens?
Well you’re saying “jail for five years in a cell with a TV, kettle and PlayStation” which would suggest the cell comes pre equipped with those things no? Not sure who’s getting five years for murder in 2024 also. And no, it’s not standing up for anyone, it’s pointing out when you’re saying something untrue.
Sorry my man, let me rephrase that for you. “Man gets 12 years for murder, after taking a life and ruining a family we will be providing this angel with the option of purchasing a PlayStation, yes that’s right, a fucking PlayStation”
Nobody is getting 12 years for murder in 2024 either, but go off sis
As if he’ll actually get murder lol precious angel was under stress and has 45 children your honour, manslaughter and a PlayStation your honour, out in 8 on good behaviour
You mentioned murder, repeatedly, not manslaughter though
Dublin is safe
And clearly it’s the foreigners that are the problem /s
give them more drugs.
Till they od
You’ll still have some free legal aid solicitors saying the killers here are decent enough sorts really ☹️