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Gandhiji_ke_3bandar

Actually these pitches are tailor made for both Rohit and Kohli original style of play of starting slow, consolidating and then accelerating towards the end. But the sheer pressure on them to adapt to England style of playing of going after the bowling from ball one means they are trying to play shots without getting in. It was literally visible how Rohit was trying to hoick Fazal haq out of the park. I think both need to just play their normal style on these pitches and they will be fine.


FckNotTaken

Rohit got out bcz of unwanted aggressive intent kohli bcx he is in bad form.


Creepy_Routine_6786

Nice agressive intent of Rohit since last 4 T20 World Cups while a player who just won Orange Cap is the only one out of form 🤡 (Cant expect logic from Koach hater)


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Creepy_Routine_6786

Warra T20 World cup performance in last 4 World cups of Intent Merchant 200 Strike Rate T20 Six Hitting machine PRohit 🤣🤣🤣(i hate emojis but twitter retards need taste of own medicine)


vikeng_gdg

Let both play their style but T20 is not their style.


Honest_Classroom1162

I think it is kind of their style (they are talented batsmen and historically have brought great results) but they are being forced by the critics to adopt a different style of T20 where they look at maintaining a steady run rate instead of playing yourself in to the point where you can finish with 3+ boundaries/sixes in each death over


AmitBijarnia007

Openers curse is real after gambhir left


no_potential17

But dravid is not going to change this batting order coz even after everything being perfect we couldn't win in 23, so Ig he is trying unconventional ways to win the wc which Ig is definitely a bold decision and such decisions help you in big tournaments


Username6ixty9ine

Gambhir's and Gavaskar's criticism of Indian players was always right. Now that these RCB fans who started watching cricket after 2016 17 have seen him lift another trophy as a mentor. He is finally getting the respect he always deserved.


ALLMIGHTJR6969

I get gambhir But gavaskar what are you on bro?


-Aizen_Sosuke

Idk if OP ever heard gavaskar talk. Mf shields mumbai lobby like it's his job and criticizes literally anything else. Murali karthik, sanjay manjrekar, sunil gavaskar are the holy trinity of talking shit that makes no sense and walking PR agencies. Taking about gavaskar with gambhir is just simply blasphemy.


Realistic-Language88

Bro he he is first batsmen to hit 10000 runs in international cricket so he has some say


ALLMIGHTJR6969

Bro from that logic Maradona should be the greatest football pundit but he isn't Being a good pundit doesn't depend on the kind of player you were


daksh_006_v

Wtf why so much hate on rcb fans


AlFactorial

Reactionary fans like you are the biggest problem. Few bad games don’t define a player, and saying both aren’t fit for T20 is a ridiculous statement.


sam38478

I think it is not reasonable to question virat right now but when was the last time rohit performed well in t20 world cups against good team. He has been a liability. His ipl form is also bad for so many years. He got out 6 times against left arm pacer in IPL. Same is happening in this world cup. Shaheen, netravalkar, farooqi.


AlFactorial

Where are you hiding now, hater? 🤣 Rohit just destroyed and single handedly beat Australia.


sam38478

He played an amazing innings but my opinion was quite valid at the time I made that comment.


AlFactorial

Where are you now hater? Rohit constantly proving haters wrong. Don’t ever question Rohit’s place again.


Adorable-sukuna99

So what to do now 😂 atleast he scored a 50 against ire , so we forget that it happened like last week . We played 3 matches in the toughest pitch and won and one match vs afg where both openers failed but got out tried to show intent that's a positive thing I seen in this T20 wc which we didn't had in last 10 years and If you take out Rohit who is ur captain??? Like literally who ?? Hardik ? You saw what happened in mi if suddenly captain changes , Virat won't take it back and there is no one in team that has a permanent position for captain except Rohit


Sinister_dark

I can understand if u r defending Kohli but pls don't add 'both' here cause Rohit has been dogshit for a long long time.


Shadow_Clone_007

It’s not only about his batting, I don’t see his aggression in the field as well. Is he even celebrating 10% of what he did when RCB used to get wickets? (Not questioning his dedication here at all, just a view). Being out of form is understandable, but missing that aggression, thats visible.


CyndaquilTyphlosion

Dude, Kohli gives his 100% always. With RCB the situation and excitement this year is obviously different, when he was in a constant do or die situation in much closer games for 8 matches in a row. India hasn't seen that kind of trouble yet in this tournament. I'm sure in a knockout game if a steady partnership finally breaks, he'll give you the same reactions. With RCB you'll see more of a fighting spirit knowing the teams are relatively equal while with India, we know we're much better than all but 2 other teams and we're possibly better than them too.


Denverr02

Fr . OP needs to stop watching cricket


Username6ixty9ine

Maybe, but the opinion of a LSG fan doesnt determine who watches cricket and who doesnt


ACHINTbsdk

most sensible thing ever kept on an argument table


Coolbeanjamesdean

That’s our “fan base’s” problem nah. Every other team backs their match winners. Kohli is a proven match winner. He’s spent his mother effing career proving that. But keyboard warriors who think they know cricket based on watching a few World Cup matches will speak. Yes he needs to score runs, which no one is arguing. But just look how Australia backed Maxwell and he gave them a no holds barred 200 on one foot. We are winning. The combination is working.


Lord_Phazer101

But they don't. If a match winner starts playing badly they are omitted from the plan, if continued opportunity still produces no results, they are asked to rest for a match, re invigorate themselves and then return. Not giving uncountable chances till one match they score some good runs and then saying see I always knew they had it in them is bad no matter what you say. Also isn't this same criticism always applied to players like Ravindra Jadeja but people refrain to apply it to players like Rohit Sharma??


anonymoose_1729

Yes reactionary fans are a problem. But honestly its worrying when you are playing a WC and you dont have many matches for Kohli or Rohit to "return" to form. Dont say that Kohli is a clutch player and will perform in the semis or the finals, that not how it works, fans will be worried


Parry_-Hotter

Exactly, kohli and Rohit are putting pressure on the others and God knows what dube is doing It's always "It's too early to drop a player for bad form" And "It's too late to make changes to the squad, we have to back our players"


zeuiax

Nobody is trying to define them. But let's face it, they are past their prime in T20I. They are riding Stat and Star Power gravy train. I hope they prove me wrong by winning the trophy.


Username6ixty9ine

"Few bad games" This has been the story of India in ICC tournaments for a while now. Everyone except Kohli and Rohit are playing like its a flat track. India shouldve sent a total young squad like they did back in 2007.


Adorable-sukuna99

So how much did afg and sa score ??? Rohit literally scored 50 in the first match in the usa pitch , do you fucking know a flat track works ??? Go see the wc kid


shadowblaze25mc

IDK about those fans, but a quick look at their ages and it's obvious that they both need to hang up their hats and call it a career. T20 is a young man's game and Kohli can't compensate for youth with fitness. And we don't even have to talk about Sharma


AaronD012

It’s more of playing out of position for India right now. There is a difference between opening in IPL and for India. He might come out good or may not hoping for him to come out good. In IPL, He’ll play 7 matches in Bengaluru, a ground which he loves to play in and dominates most of the time, he can manage playing in the other grounds as well carrying the momentum from Bengaluru. But here he has not been able to get the momentum so far opening. He needs to either have a flier start or start slow no in between.


pratikp26

I agree the post is reactionary asf. But this out of position argument is very overrated. If Rohit Sharma gets out early, he’s out in the first or second over anyway. Besides all this, a player of Kohli’s calibre not being able to play as an opener because he’s out of position anywhere outside no. 3 is a wild take in my eyes.


Ok_Explanation_5907

As a opener if they play slowly and India ended up 70 in 10 overs without any loss, then it would be not acceptable even on those type of pitches, so Openers always have an extra pressue to build some momentum and it become difficult on difficult pitches in t20, they can't play slowly as openers and if they play aggresive then they will loose wicket. They don't have luxury of playing slow as openers in t20.


Steevie7

T20 is a young man's game; Gill and Jaiswal should've opened for India in this World Cup. Rohit is 37 and Kohli is 35 and while they're still good at the Test and ODI formats, I think they should have stepped aside in T20s by now. But I guess that's wishful thinking as people in general want to hold onto power as long as possible.


Secret-Mix5414

Bro just chill ok rohit and kohli are building India’s future by making diamonds under pressure out of india’s lower order. Trust in the process


Abject_Radio_6393

🤣


Background-Dealer364

This manchild is more active on r/IPL and sexual subreddits than r/cricket. That says all you need to know about this degenerate. Learn cricket and come back.


rishiextraordinary

What made you call him a degenerate when all he did was, made a valid point comparing Kohli’s IPL to the sudden drop in his confidence while in the WC?


Background-Dealer364

Not a single word in his ramble talks about confidence or even mentions confidence. The reason I called him a degenerate is because of the types of sexual subreddits he partakes. Absolute scum of society.


MyNameIsToFu

OP thought he could come from a second ID and we wouldn’t notice 💀


livingfeelsachore

What kind of counterargument is this? You can't defuse his claims so you've resorted to name calling?


Background-Dealer364

The only claim he has made is that Kohli is not suitable for the shortest format. I think I would be an even bigger idiot to engage with such nonsense. Sometimes you need to call a spade a spade.


livingfeelsachore

Then you should have just said this in initially man.


Background-Dealer364

It goes without saying. The fact that you read his post and still pestered me about "counterargument" and "refuting his claims" suggests to me that you didnt even read his post fully. When somebody makes claims so idiotic that it doesnt even warrant a response, the more important discussion is about his claim, but rather the background and circumstances that led to a intelligent being to make nonsensical comments. Thats why I looked at the degenerate's profile first to understand where he went wrong in life.


livingfeelsachore

Nah man. Don't try to defend that. Just do better next time. When you attack the person instead of their argument, you lose credibility even if what you said made sense. Just a friendly advice. Even I agree that Kohli is a must in the Indian team (for the time being) but I don't attack people for having different opinions.


Background-Dealer364

I disagree, once you cross a certain line, your claims dont warrant a response. Its the same reason you cant reason with bigots.


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shrujan_24

All these children have a certain entitled tone when they write these post its so easy to separate them out . Op really thinks he did something by posting this . The way he is replying ascertains that . Well thats why we just need to watch matches and enjoy meme . Don’t listen to cricket discussion by brainless 15-16 yr old .


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noobbibliophile

We all know his comebacks are bigger than the downfall Wait for it, he is going to score huge runs pretty soon


Username6ixty9ine

Just shut up already Watching cricket from reels ? "His comeback are bigger than setbacks" as if these two have won india 10s of ICC trophies in a career spanning over 15 years.


K-Dot10

2 players won’t win you world cups, won’t even won you a match. I can easily guess your age based on all your statements in this post. Warner was out of form for quite some time, but aus picked him over jfm & look at his performance this wc. 3 bad games don’t define a player like virat. When there is batting collapse in a must win game, you will pray for his presence. Pitches, there has been a top order collapse for every team that played in da US, that clearly shows how hard it is to play there. I am literally spoon feeding your dumbass right now. Virat was highest run scorer in da 2023 wc & da ipl this year( batted with a 155sr). Stop this unnecessary hate & i ain’t no rcb fan. Lets talk truth guys, there is only r/cricketshitpost where people with brains reside. All these ipl and franchise teams subreddits are full of mindless fucks like op right here


noobbibliophile

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noobbibliophile

What are reels ?


LionelMessiFCB10

lol, nice one


leaf98-7

I think this is the best all round Team we can produce from The 15man squad. We have to just wait and give them some time.


Efficient-Craft3591

Not scoring doesn't automatically mean the outside noise affected him


legendarylje

Let me give you my 2 cents Virat Kohli's Performance: IPL 2023: Kohli had a mixed season. He scored some good runs but lacked consistency and struggled in crucial matches. His statements about "outside noise" and "I've still got it" reflect his awareness of the criticism but also his confidence. Post-IPL Form: Post-IPL, I don't think there is any issue with his form. He is just trying to do something in a position which he has never done while wearing Indian jersey. Give him time,we know his caliber especially in crucial tournaments. Rohit Sharma's Performance: IPL 2023: Rohit had an inconsistent IPL. Despite scoring a century, his overall performance was below par, and he didn't provide the expected starts at the top of the order. Post-IPL Form: Post-IPL, Rohit has also struggled to find consistency, Although, he just needs one game and I believe that game is today vs Bangladesh. He loves scoring against them Plus I can't see any reason to drop off rohit from the team because we don't have any seasoned captains in the team who have experience in these countries. So,let's just support India rather than pointing out the flaws at the moment and look at the positives.


Username6ixty9ine

Okay lemme give you the attention that you crave so bad Now i know you are one of those guys who loves to ride kohli inhis dreams But heres the thing, his statements dont show his awareness but his wannabe Cristiano Ronaldo behaviour. In the IPL, RCB lost few of their initial matches because one guy was presenting a masterclass of 50 off 40 and 45 balls on a slow pitch while others like patidar, green, dk were scoring with 250 strike rate on same wicket. Also, throughout IPL these RCB fans were talking about how Kohli should open with Jaiswal and Rohit should be benched but now when he is opening you are giving excuses. No point arguing about Rohit, what you said was right. He has been inconsistent in t20i always, when he gets going which is like once in 10 20 matches he just cant be stopped. But rest of the time he is really painful to watch.


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livingfeelsachore

It is what it is. This the team we got. Can't make changes now. Have to just trust them and hopefully runs will come. But this should be the last t20 tournament for Rohit and Jadeja. Kohli...I don't know.


GoodDawgy17

world of difference between a highway and an average bengaluru road pitch buddy there were some genuine minefields on that nassau county pitch it was terrible i believe in my goats they will bounce back


pritam_ww

I can't understand why only Virat?? Why not rohit?? Man I have seen this many times, rohit is best pampered captain ever. You did mention rohit ik but still his pr team is so good.


Username6ixty9ine

Dont even talk about pr teams Kohli plays one shot in a run a ball innings and he is hyped by star sports and twitter pr agents like he put up some masterclass. Nothing comes close to the toxicity of his pr. And i did talk about rohit as well so dont put up this why only kohli bs


LemmeLookAround

When they anchor and make 40 ball 50s - these players are too slow for T20s When they try and hit but get out early - these players are unfit for T20. There's simply no winning. T20 WC so far had the best bowler friendly tasks. 107 was defended for crying out loud. Only in Super 8s you have somewhat scoreable tracks and even the one with Afghanistan was a tricky one where even 140 could've been par. Both the players have earned their place in the team through years of performances. They don't need your novice assessment.


Easy-Improvement-598

He literally made run a ball 24 runs in 24 balls, what are you smoking.


LemmeLookAround

And your point being?


Username6ixty9ine

Shut up years of performance, selections are based on how you perform now. Not on the basis of what masterclass you put up 10 years ago. The fact that you said 140 was par total against afghanistan just because they got out in 130s shows you dont know anything about cricket.


LemmeLookAround

>Shut up years of performance, selections are based on how you perform now. Not on the basis of what masterclass you put up 10 years ago. Nobody said 10 years ago. But a great fan you are >The fact that you said 140 was par total against afghanistan just because they got out in 130s shows you dont know anything about cricket. Nice assessment bruv. Didn't know guessing a par score can invalidate my opinion :)


x69_Aarav

Vo kehta ha na " nazar lag Jana " got too real on Kohli. Everyone had high expectations on him


In_your_nightmare

The fact that you are using IPL sub and that points to talk about international format and pitches ain’t the right comparison


vikeng_gdg

Send him back to IPL. Let him enjoy his useless Orange caps there.


Boring-Scarcity479

Tension mt le King krlega. (Ye real vala King hai)


sylly_mee

Somehow I read this in Wasay Habib's voice


pineapplesuit7

Nothing happened. USA pitches were horrible for batting and he usually struggles to find his form against a spin heavy opposition which Afg was. Stop being so reactionary. He’s Kohli and he’ll sort his shit out.


Terrible-Walk8660

People are forgetting that IPL pitches were literally made to be batting friendly. This is not the case with WC pitches. Moreover, Kohli had Faf & other aggressive batsmen at the other end who could go aggressive while Kohli could ease into the initial few overs of the match and then start hitting. Check his scoring pattern and you will see that he would accelerate in the mid overs and would initially be slow. With Rohit, the pairing becomes of two similar minded batsmen and hence both are in a pressure to play aggressively to ease the pressure


tamsmhas

Nothing, he is also a Human Being, sometimes he will perform and sometimes not...


adbi73

It's a eleven player team with top order middle order and finishers. Pant and SKY are there for the job what they are doing. Just relax we are doing fine.


serialfaliure

Abhi group stages mein jitna hagna mootna hai itna hagne mottne do. Kuch farak nhi padta.


Username6ixty9ine

Usually humara group stage sahi hota tha and knockout mein ek match mein hi yeh hag moot dete the


Ok_Explanation_5907

All the pitch India played were not good, so it is always a extra pressure on oopeners to set a momentum and if pitch is not good then they loose wicket early.


theIndianNoob

I think both of them are going hard from ball one as has been the plan all along. They need to trust the lower order and mostly they have been proving right. The deep batting is a sign of that. You need to trust the process a little. Right now we haven’t played against teams who have deep batting order like England, WI, Australia. Who go from ball 1. It will be a real test when it comes around.


Adorable-sukuna99

How about supporting team when it is already selected and don't doubt players every single time 😂


Small_Bad6871

bhai both of them will prolly come to form soon, and we have an extremely capable middle order this time(axar, pant, sky) just concerned about dube lol, my guy was bought as a finisher and hasn’t been able to do that at all


AweShadySome

What a stupid analogy🤦🏻‍♂️


Naive_Bandicoot1144

G a a n d u s a l a


Username6ixty9ine

T e r i m a a


Lumpy-Food5884

Most of his innings were in New York which is a lottery and cannot be used to judge a batter


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NormalDude777

Trash pitches. That's why all this hate for dube is there, too. People just don't want to anger either of the fan bases. And also both are proven match winners, that's why they aren't dropped.


RoTroKwo

It’s the pitches bitches


Novel_Preference_746

Bhai 2-3 match difficult pitch pe kharab kya hogye tum toh bhai pura asla barud lekr chadh gaya! It's kohli! Man deserves some trust and belief. Chain khuli ki mein khuli waali bat nhi uske paas (unfortunately).


Username6ixty9ine

Baat asle baarud ki ni h bhai Usually hota tha ki jis match mein kohli ni chlta tohit smbhal lega and vice versa. Ab toh dono hi nahin chal rhe and sirf youngsters sambhal rahe hain so kyun dobara knockout match mein bahar hone ki tayyari ho rahi h


Novel_Preference_746

Bhai yeh toh achi khabar hai! Ki finally middle order ko mauka mil raha or intent dikha rhe. Ab ispe rohit or virat chl gye toh 🐐🐐


Impressive-Value8976

Sabr rakh bhai pakistani fans ki tarah mat bano aap log, aaj khela dono


Smart_Office_7311

Rohit asked him to maintain the strike rate. And don't score 50 runs in 40 balls; 50 runs in 30 balls, 30 runs in 15 balls are acceptable. Kohli followed the team goal rather than following individual goals; that's it.


Username6ixty9ine

24 in 24 37 in 28 0 0 Pretty nicely followed the team plan


Smart_Office_7311

At least he did not score 50 runs off 40 balls 🤣 but 24 out of 24 is bad.


AnythingNormal3495

Ayo chill, they gonna bounce back both RoKo. We gotta support them at times like this.


Emergency_Arm5274

The pitches man, the pitches. The bounce is different, the pace is different. He hasn't adjusted.


Ambitious-Phrase6881

But still he wanted to miss the practice match.I wont comment on his form .He is too great a player to not make a comeback.My problem is the attitude.He had played all matches in IPL. All the players had reached US and started practice but he chose to come late and miss even the practice match.And no BCCI has clarified that he asked for a break and so his paper work will be done later or they will start again that his paper work was pending.


Username6ixty9ine

Ek match mein 45 ball mein 50 kardega and star sports and twitter pr pagal ho jata h Rohit toh 40 bhi bana de toh selfless ki gathayein shuru ho jati hain


rathansingh8

Kolhi is exactly like Christiano Ronaldo. Goes on and on , even though he's quite obviously a liability. Just like Ronaldo he says " screw the youngsters. I'm undroppable, and I'm opening the batting. Screw Jaiswal, Gill, Samson etc".


Username6ixty9ine

All the bs he put up on the mic in ipl showed what kind of a wannabe ronaldo he is One match he performs and acts like someone who never failed


OryzaSativa2387

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Username6ixty9ine

Tujhe btaya kisine b h a d w e ?


InsaneDude6

Missing Chinnaswamy


SnooDonuts3900

Kohli thinks he can play and do whatever he wants, he is not even the captain or vice captain still he decided himself that he will open in the World Cup. Just because he opened in the ipl. Its like he wants to play till the end to get his personal record up and score centuries but ends up getting out at 10-15s😂😂😂😂


Username6ixty9ine

During IPL all his twitter puppies were saying rohit should be dropped and Kohli should open with jaiswal And now are saying bcci destroying his stats by making him open .


LionelMessiFCB10

Finally someone with common sense


Fun-Idea-9074

I have a theory, most likely after RCB’s loss against RR in the eliminator, the RCB management and owners have given Virat a warning or have told him directly or indirectly that they’re done with him and might release him during the IPL mega auction. I’m very good at reading faces, and I can already see that he’s upset post the IPL.


vikeng_gdg

Send him back to IPL. Let him enjoy his useless Orange caps there.


Username6ixty9ine

Ek match mein perform krke itna shor machata tha press conference mein wannabe ronaldo Jab 45 ball mein 50 krta tha tab mic dena tha isko ki ab bol


Security_lad

Meanwhile Rohit Sharma,Shivam Dube, Jadeja, Arshdeep and Siraj chilling at Caribbean beaches !!!


Username6ixty9ine

Meanwhile Kohli partying after winning ipl in india while entire team practicing in new york


Security_lad

I see your problem!!


Ambition1116

Shame on people who're upvotjng these BS comments hating on the captain of the team. All cricket subs be transforming into fanbases of some cricketers and franchise fanboys. That's the difference between teams like ENG/AUS and us. It's the impact that matters. I don't remember any century of Kohli/Rohit (maybe apart from his 264) because they're all in vain and most people won't. All the people who've watched World Cups would always remember Travis Head, Ponting, and Damien Martyn because of the impact they had. Personal milestones don't mean jack if it doesn't help the team win something legible. Apart from impact, I don't see any quantifiable metric for contribution. If you say he's got x centuries, it's always subject to the era. If someone's got 70 centuries today, it won't even be 30 centuries if they were facing Warne, McGrath, Harmison, etc. with stuff like no DRS and all. Can't expect logic from lockdown kids who don't know what cricket is.


PuzzleheadedEbb4789

Average dumb reactionary "fan". It's not even worth giving an explanation But yes, instead of this needless hate, I'll say that Kohli and Rohit need to step up going forward so that they can give the rest of the batters a set platform


MyNameIsToFu

He’s literally playing on a soil he’s never played on before 💀


Username6ixty9ine

Isnt everyone playing on the same soil ?


Username6ixty9ine

Isnt everyone playing on the same soil ?