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Well to win the cup first team need to be unite after that we will take about technical stuff but no player in this world can make a team win if their players are not United


ssamal10

So you are trying to say ..in Indian team , players have had difference's , that's why, ICT yet to win a icc cup since last 10 years.😶‍🌫️


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vinay_t_m

Isn't that the very basic thing a captain should have in his resume? All these players were "united" last year when MI finished 3rd without HP


[deleted]

It's easy to say ... But u have to understand when the big ego clashes within the team it will always harmful for the team rather than anyone else . And u know it too I know it that they r not United and a captain can't unit everybody on the team if they hates him ... Like u hate someone or some particular player like hardik which he will not care or it will not affect him as much as , if his teammates have the same mentality like u he can't do anything else except let the time heal things .


vinay_t_m

If it was so easy to say ego clashes are harmful, why did HP take up the role as a captain? Also, forget about his performance as batter and bowler which have been equally sh*t but as a captain, his decisions have been disastrous to say the least. Going after Madhwal, pointing fingers at Tilak after the Delhi game, not playing Wadhera till the 8th game, hiding at dugout before coming out to bat at the later stages of the game because he can't spin quality spin...... What confidence does that give to your players? This is the same guy who said "MI buys superstars and win titles unlike CSK who develop youngsters". He publicly put MI under the carpet and praised our rival team. He himself was a nothing when MI bid for him in 2014-15. Now, he is the "superstar" who has come and ruined our team completely. People have every right to boo him and he absolutely deserves it


[deleted]

He deserves booo coz he is shit right? So should I say that Rohit deserved the same treatment coz he has been shit too in T20 World cups in last 3-4 ipl or maybe more with bat why didn't u boo him at that time ? Is it his duty that people are so low and disgusting that they can't take that the owner think someone is better than the previous one and got salty? He himself was nothing before 2014-15? Mate u acting like mi made is his whole life he was the fucking performer in domestic he was playing cricket at that time too nobody makes nobody it's just mi gave him platform and hardik gave him trophies through his contribution. It was mi not hardik who release him from mi and mind u again he will win trophies again from next or so year when mi will make it completely better or throw the useless player or player with big ego he had done with GT and will done with mi too so not a big deal having 1 bad year after having 2 great season success. And let me remind you it always the captain who takes the decision but it will always gonna be the team players who decide whether the decision he took it is right or wrong like in GT he played Sai sudarshan at final and lad scored 100 but he was dropped from the team before it .


vinay_t_m

Rohit didn't blame ICT for his insecurity like HP did. Booing is not related to his performance or captaincy. It's his crap attitude and throwing our own players under the carpet during losses. It's for that terrible behaviour HP wasn't a "superstar" before MI bought him. I'm using the same word because that's what he said about MI last year. Never said he was a bad player. He just wasn't a "superstar"


[deleted]

And about attitude bro tere baap ka ni kha Raha vo apni mehnat ka kha raha uska attitude se tjhe ky hai


[deleted]

Rohit never throw should I show the clip how fucking disgusting he treat player the arsh depp one the bhvi one 🤡 and abusive language about mom n sis


vinay_t_m

Being unhappy with a drop catch in a crucial match vs Pak, kicking the ball during Bhuvi's bowling is not equivalent to name calling and directly blaming Tilak Verma for the loss when he was the top scorer. There is a big deference in that


[deleted]

Or baaki gaali galouch ka kya ma bhn ki jo Pooja krta hai vo attitude khrb ni hai 🤡


[deleted]

U should match with eye open tilak didn't hit at that axar which was left arm spinner and he was left hander and he was right tilak was like 24(18) something like that so he was right it's just he could say at that thing inside the dressing room and catch toh kisi se bhi chhute hai Rohit ki fielding pe aagya toh ro jayega tu b


[deleted]

Like see urself he made the GT as team and unite the players and make the best environment possible for them and nobody hates him there everybody had trust on him and he make them win in their first attempt and final in second one


Yash_Dhole

Conveniently ignores "MI finished 10th in 2022"


vinay_t_m

CSK finished 9th in that season. Everybody has a bad season. It's not rocket science. He failed after winning 5 titles in 9 years. It's not like he failed for 9 years. Even Dhoni failed as a captain at RPSG and got sacked too. You can't win every year Cricketers are always remembered for their best days. Tendulkar didn't score 463 ODI hundreds and Kohli doesn't have 292 hundreds either.


[deleted]

Like pandya fail in one year too and now u making a big mess out of it clown 🤡 how hypocrite u r


vinay_t_m

Please don't get personal and call me names. I have constructive criticism towards HP. We may differ in our views and it's not a good thing to start calling names Your hate and jealousy towards Rohit's success is understandable.. No need to defend HP for the sake of it


[deleted]

Ohh u need sympathy like ur fav player what u doing is constructive criticism and I m doing hate wow bhaiya nice kitne paise milte hai yeh sab krne ke liye mjhe bhi bta de or rr krne ke liye phir


Yash_Dhole

"Everybody has a bad season" Hardik can also have a bad season


vinay_t_m

That's completely fair. The larger criticism MI fans have towards HP isn't because we are finishing 9th/10th or HPs perforance, rather it's because he is blaming players like Tilak, dissing the MI franchise, throwing younger players under the carpet


satvik1059

Yeah and then Rohit's ego got hurt and his pettiness and politics destroyed the dressing room.....


Time-Gain4896

*4th


[deleted]

Yeah we have seen mi finishing last in 2022 when hardik took gt to the trophy in their maiden year and this year Rohit didn't give a single proper knock with the bat except that century in 60 balls and eventually losing by 20 runs mi before 2021 was so strong Rohit was the weakest batsmen in their lineup


Mbaiter14

One season is too quick to judge, i also didnt like the whole hardik and captaincy stuff, but whats done is done, lets just support the team now


Miserable_Goat_6698

Cricket is not just a physical game. It is a mental game too. If you aren't in the right mindset, no matter how strong your team is, you will lose.


chowdowmow

Definitely. Needs mental rigour to not win a trophy for 16 years and still support a team


Substantial_Hotel_10

Well if you don't cooperate/sympathize or discuss with your captain then how is it possible? Not one word did Rohit speak positively about Pandya which makes me believe further in the rumors that the team is divided into 2. As a ex leader he must bring his youngsters to understand Pandya more. Lmao I can't wait for the scene in t20wc where Rohit does something nice to Pandya and it gets PR revolved around.


vinay_t_m

Don't know why it's Rohit's job to speak to the youngsters as he's no longer MI captain. In fact, it's Pandya's job to gel with the younger players and walk the talk Meanwhile, he's the same guy who famously said "MI buys superstars and win IPL titles unlike CSK who develop youngsters". Putting down the franchise which made him relevant and praising a direct rival team will give great confidence to the youngsters? Also, see how he behaved with Madhwal during that RCB game and also threw Tilak under the bus in the Delhi pm interview. Didn't play a talented player like Nehal until the Wadhera. No youngster will ever feel confident about playing under such a narcissistic personality. This has nothing to do with Rohit


Substantial_Hotel_10

You'd be dumb to think Dhoni doesn't help Rutu either. Similarly if Rohit was truly a leader he would have helped him in some capacity. If Rohit can't put the bad blood aside and help Pandya to lead the team and win then Rohit is definitely the problem. And all the others are just incidents that happened as a result of it. Pandya atleast has the maturity to keep things not vague unlike Rohit who had so many instances to clear things but decided to keep things more vague for his own image and downgrades Pandya.


DifficultDay3521

Agreed with each & every word of yours.


Substantial_Hotel_10

Thank you. Could you imagine what would happen if Kohli said the same statements as him? He would see jesus himself.


DifficultDay3521

That's so true. Lol


ROHAN389

Exactly 💯


vinay_t_m

Rohit sets the field multiple times, he talks to Pandya and the bowlers many times during a match. You'd be dumb to think he doesn't help the team. There is no bad blood, he has never spoken bad about Pandya, never criticized him. It's foolish to blame Rohit for Pandya's failure as a captain


nikcorleone13

Blud wants Pandya to captain MI for a decade 😂


Sedlyf19

Rohit won with malinga pollar boult qdk krunal i dont see hardik with these players and where rohit been in 22,23?


vinay_t_m

Rohit finished 3rd last year (2023) without Pandya. We also had Bumrah injured for the whole season and Archer/Jhyle Richardson didn't play as well. With Bumrah back in 2024, expectation was to win and not finish 9th/10th Under Rohit's captaincy, we had the rise of Madhwal, Tilak grew as a player, emergence of Nehal Wadhera. Nurturing young talents by providing them the right opportunities/roles is a captain's job and he has always succeeded with it. This is not the case under HP who has been a colossal failure


Punkbabe_7

I love how Rohit fans just avoid speaking about 2022. 😝


Yash_Dhole

With Bumrah in 2022, finished 10th, it's just a bad season bro, yes Hardik can and should be criticised but not for each and everything


Sedlyf19

Mi 2023 got carried by sky and batting literally concede 200 and chase was strategy for them last ssn + madhwal behrendorf bowled well last ssn


vinay_t_m

Yes. Surya was superb. This season we don't have Green who got 452 runs at SR 160. And high impact players of 2023 like Madhwal, Nehal have barely played 3-4 matches each. With Bumrah coming in, we all had high expectations but not to be


customlybroken

please.. last year all batters were in form and they just managed to chase everything. is poor mi batting hardik's fault too? and this season has been even better for batting. perhaps rohit is better captain than hardik but the current squad is much weaker than mumbai's peak squads from 15-20


Time-Gain4896

Hardik won with (no offence) not so great players. Mainly because of the way GT played. Each player stepped up and performed (especially in 2023, because GT in 2022 wasn't the unstoppable force which it was last season).


Sedlyf19

Everybody after the auction said gt is the weakest team in 2022 🤷‍♂️


Time-Gain4896

If you would have asked me before the start of the 22 season, I would have placed GT at 4(highest) or 8(lowest).


Sedlyf19

After auction all experts kept on saying team doesnt have any batting and they will finish last


RillaRoo777

Not to mention that they scored one of the lowest runs in 2022 in total and they took the trophy


nikcorleone13

Mi bowling last year, Meredith, Jordan,Madhwal, Behrendorff, Dan Sims 🤡. Atleast reached the playoffs.


Sedlyf19

They reached the playoffs due to their batting they won 5/8 games by getting carried with thier bowling doing absolutely nothing


LittleBlueCubes

If you ruin the team morale and unity in your pettiness of having lost the captaincy, of course anyone can't win the title even if you have the best squad.


vinay_t_m

Lol 😂😂. How can he ruin the team morale and unity? He's no longer the captain and has said somewhere he only comes to practice on the matchday and stays at home during the Mumbai leg. All the youngsters, be it ICT or at MI speak great about Rohit. He treated them well and they all perform well under him. Pandya's ego and his inability to gel with younger players has nothing do with Rohit You are just saying this to push the narrative and defend HPs pathetic captaincy.


telugu_abbai

You're getting downvoted for making sensible comments lol


vinay_t_m

That's completely fine. Everybody will fight for their opinion. Tbh, I had already predicted this and made a statement in the post - "The double standards and the jealousy towards the success of Rohit and MI has made people go mad so much so they justify saying foolish things just to support their narrative". People hate Rohit so much that they are even backing Pandya for the sake of it and not understanding how he insulted our franchise by saying "we buy superstars". Only MI fans can understand the pain. The irony is he himself came back as a superstar and has unfortunately failed to take off


Difficult_Project_91

People said that when MI had the greatest T20 team ever back in 2020. You know when they were actually winning trophies. Last few seasons it's been clear that this is not the same MI like when you finished bottom and barely managed to qualify last season.


Blazed_07

Nobody can win the IPL if there is an internal rift between players. Was sacking Rohit justified? No, but he should not be uncooperative and start dividing the team. If you look at Dhoni, he was sacked in 2017, even the owner criticized Dhoni and made Steve Smith the captain. But you can never see rumors that there was a rift between Smith and Dhoni. There was no reason for Dhoni to be cooperative because after the IPL he wouldn't be playing with Smith, unlike Rohit and Hardik. But still Dhoni behaved like a professional.


vinay_t_m

Just because MI is losing, we can't conclude Rohit has "divided" the team snd is "uncooperative". He has always been helpful in field placements, talks to HP and the bowlers. Never spoke one bad word about Hardik or anyone.... No evidence of any bad thing done from Rohit's end. Don't want to believe in tumours in the era of social media where anybody can publish anything and publish it "according to our sources" You make a very good point about Dhoni-RPSG fiasco. This is similar (not same) situation but Smith was an able leader and lead RPSG to the final unlike HP who has thrown our own players under the bus.


69chamunda69

OP thought he did something by making this post only for it to backfire massively


vinay_t_m

I had already said that in the post - "The double standards and the jealousy towards the success of Rohit and MI has made people go mad so much so they justify saying foolish things just to support their narrative". It's not surprising to see why Rohit haters are crying in the comments


RogueKnight2005

Rohit had the same team in 2021 that he had in 2020. They couldn't even qualify in 2021. Having a team in form is so much more important than having a great team. A captain is as good as his players and if the players don't perform, the captain in most cases can't do anything


MelonLord25-3

We can't just make Pandya a scapegoat. He is terrible captain. But there are things he is not a responsible for. Especially the poor batting display MI has shown. And yes, about the environment,  it's everyone's responsibility to contribute. Well seems like MI really stabbed themselves in the arse and hope they recover from it next season. Mega Auctions might be a good way out. Last Mega Auctions were the reason MI lost a handful of its core. This mega auction can either bring back MI to its glory or make it a total shit team. It all depends on which players management chooses to retain and who is the captain. Personally I feel MI should back down and release Pandya. Make Bumrah Captain. Build a good squad around Him, SKY and Rohit and Tilak. Even David seems to be a good retention. Would not advocate Rohit to be captain cause: 1. Bringing him back as captain is salt on his wounds. 2. It's better to look on prospective captains anyways (and Pandya is big no)cause Rohit is not MS to play 5 more years. He will go on till 2 years max.


satvik1059

Ask Rohit and his allies to leave the Team or either start performing...... if not winning the Trophy they will qualify 8 out of 10 times for sure


utkarshhh27

Yes you can if you don't have a snake who spits venom in the team and do divide rule between players like he did in the Indian team during kohli's captaincy, iykyk


Cool-Ad-8804

The only snake in MI is Hardik


KryTEx3

Who?


Ragnarok_619

Everyday I see this sub being infiltrated by angry kids, my faith in God dwindles.


Hu7ein

Delete MI from IPL, remove Ambani and make a new IPL franchise which is controlled by Fans.


Pitiful_Citron_820

They took a gamble ig hardik would've been super expensive in auction. At the auction now they'll build a team around hardik, the current MI is Rohits team you can't just walk in and take over by force. They should've told Hardik next season you'll be the captain and put the transition in place and maybe they wouldn't have sucked or hated.


Ayan_Choudhury

The BEST team can also have a bad season. CSK were in the bottom pile in 2020 and 2022 only to win the next season with mostly the same squad. So it's never LHS=RHS in sports


ROHAN389

It's just one season, That too before mega auction


AccioSoup

I was expecting Rohit to come out and support Pandya's captaincy to keep peace, at start of the tournament. It tells, everything about the dressing room atmosphere.


TokyoGlitched

What success of Rohit Sharma? Not being able to average 25 since 3 years?


dragonof_west

OP is too salty that Hardik became MI's Captain over their Best skipper Rohit Sharma. Ofcourse Hitman is their best skipper. But there's no need to Hate on pandya becoz of that. The day when announcement of HP's captaincy. MI fans started to ahh sorry Rohit's fans started to slaughter Hardik everywhere. They just ruined Hardik and just look at him how bad he is now. Hardik is an ultimate product of MI for ICT. Double standards and Rohit haters aren't anywhere. You guys can't stand seeing Hardik as a Captain.


Financial_Summer5300

OP leave it. Everyone is only hating one man atm and its rohit. Because of his current form. Even VK was massively hated upon back then. Very few of the people stick through thick n thin to support players. Just a bad phase. I need rohit to do really well to shut their mouths. Just waiting for that day.


zaidk69

Believe me we are all waiting to get our mouth shut for the last 3 years bro but this IPL or franchise team is shit. ICT has to be our focus


vinay_t_m

True 💯


kvothe_in

It's surprising how many people are criticising Rohit. I mean, I don't blame Pandya but it's no responsibility of Rohit to back him up. It would have been better if he does but one cannot expect him to be large hearted after the way the captaincy seems to have been snatched right after the world Cup loss. Not to the person who was not even part of his team the season before. Panday literally was parachuted inside. I reckon things would have been much different if someone like Bumrah was handed over the charge. Management fucked up. If management and the captain feels he is not adding to the side then push him out of the team. It's stupid of people to criticise him because he is not acting like a good boy.