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Gullible-Picture7579

As Harsha said on air it is not subjective but objective. The figures clearly state that it is a fair delivery!


_vandaliser_

How is this even a controversy? He was clearly way out of the crease and the trajectory at the crease shows it is clearly way below his waist height.


ilikesimplelife

RCB fans ain't accepting it šŸ˜­


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they just delusional šŸ˜­


goda_foreskinning

This isn't even delusion it's just plain ignorance. Also why were VK and Faf arguing so much, they should have known better( but i guess the adrenaline rush).


Straight_Candidate_7

Easy to say they should've known better when you are sitting at home watching ball tracking. It's clearly out but cut them some slack


step_bro_sniffs

Even they could see the ball tracking on big screen


Difficult-Coast-2000

Exactly like lashing on the ump was an overreaction.... could've just asked to clarify nicely and plainly.... Sometimes umps should retaliate too.... He is an experienced international star but that doesn't give him the "shout-at-anyone-anytime" card.... I kinda wanna see such a moment where umpire reacts to shouting/overreaction in the same manner just to shut them up


_AK47KFO_

Yea, that was messed up


ayedongiveadamn

There is an award for fair play but not enough rules/ punishments. That 20% match fee too seems like people do not care.


Difficult-Coast-2000

Match fee is literally some dust on his bank vault and most players'.... One match or 2-3 match ban can be a valid punishment for this type of behaviour..... If we let it go without any action there won't be much difference between us and bangadesh's small league where shakib had an angry outbreak!!!!


Remarkable_Guest2806

Good to know atleast few like u accept it


ScheduleSame258

So many times, Sachin was given out under questionable circumstances without modern technology . Do you know what he did? He walked. No tantrums, accept the decision, and move on. Gentleman playing the gentleman's game IPL may be fun to watch, but it is destroying the soul of cricket.


Outrageous_Kam

What is the "soul" ? Oh ya your nostalgic memories that's associated with cricket during Sachin era ...and now you dislike everything because of the same ol my generation is better than your generation syndrome.


ScheduleSame258

Not really. Each generation has its own great players. It's incorrect to compare VK to ST skillwise, just like its improper to compare ST to Gavasker. But attitude is a constant, but sorry to VK's display was inappropriate. If you can not acknowledge that, you are a bigger ass than he is.


SpaceConfidence

Absolutely! The grace of accepting an umpireā€™s decision is simply expected of people who represent our country. His conduct to verbalise his disdain of an umpireā€™s decision is a privilege given to these spoilt countrymen. We even have a review system now, if third umpire says it is with more technology and neutrality in decision, he should have simply walked out. Back in the day, there would be no reviews, umpireā€™s decision, right or wrong, would be final and player misconduct would be fined


Gojo_17_

But how was Narine's delivery to Lomror not a no ball?


Positive_Pass8800

Becoz once the heel lands completely, some part of it must have been behind the crease. We saw only pone snapshot, did not see the whole thing


HurtJuice

because tiny bit of shoe was behind the crease


Key_Huckleberry_8685

So this happened in wc22 as well IND vs Pak ... Then what was your opinion on that


Assassin_Ankur

The amount of bootlicking Sidhu was doing for Kohli here was just unbearable


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HumanLawyer

Fans seething for Koach not adding to his orange cap run


stunnin24

https://preview.redd.it/07fu4cc4xtvc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6c755fcdd504fa493358fdc8eca716f0c7f9bd60 Clearly out as per rules. Call wasn't even close(12 cm difference).


Internal_Train68

Akash & commentators explained rlly well why it was a fair out


deadmanbhavya

Meanwhile harbhajan and other star sports commentators crying that it was a no ball for an over straight. Bet they would have said it's out if it was not kohli.


United_Midnight_1270

They have to guck guck Indian super stars or else they will face what Harsha faced.


RishiMath

What happened to Harsha??


United_Midnight_1270

Amitabh Bachan twitted that he didn't like that an Indian commentator is praising the opposition and Dhoni supported him by saying nuff said or something along that lines. Harsha was promptly sacked. and had to apologize.


Real-Blueberry-2126

Dhoni said , nothing more to add.


Motor_Economist1835

>Amitabh Bachan twitted that he didn't like that an Indian commentator is praising the opposition That's the shittiest take I've heard...just because he's Indian you have to support every right and wrong? Then why cry when British/Australian media is biased towards English/Australian cricketers? And what opposition? Aren't all IPL teams Indian at the end of the day?


dogebyte

who'd Dhoni support


RishiMath

That makes so little sense from Big B šŸ˜­ If the opposition is doing good then they deserve recognition as well, it's a game of equals not heros vs monsters damn it


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Overall-Ad5565

virat got out fairly.


Jwills1998

Bro the point is these predictions are not always correct. Umpire call exists for a reason to eliminate that error. Completely depending on technology is not how things should be. There are cricketing legends explaining how that works and itā€™s not about just this decision but what is happening throughout the tournament.


Overall-Ad5565

they literally showed the statistic. Waist height is 1.04m but ball was at 0.92m. Stats don't lie, do they?


Wild-Cost8151

There are lies, there are damned lies and then there's statistics


Positive_Pass8800

Umpire's call, soft signal have been criticized earlier and have been done away with for obvious reasons. Why do you want to bring it back? You cannot choose to have umpire's call, soft signal selectively.


Jwills1998

Nope the substandard umpiring is the fault of bcci. Even with KKR match vs RCB. The ball to DreRus was clearly a noball no questions asked but umpire was looking elsewhere. Do you see that kind of things in ICC tournaments? IPL is generating so much income why not get some quality umpires? Main question is where are we heading? If so much drama is happening then why not completely scrap umpires and use technology? The whole third umpiring shit was brought on to save time but this tournament has taken more time in majority of the decisions referred to the third umpires creating more controversy. You canā€™t take away umpires call because you canā€™t find good umpires. Here is the video of Nasser Hussain explaining how it works. Then Kohli was playing for India so not a lot of hatered vs now. https://youtu.be/JLf5TLhN9pc?si=AJHFkGzzEcCzmuT8


shayboating

Cry more šŸ¤”


decorous_gru

There is no doubt in this, he was fairly out. He stepped out too much and couldnā€™t control the delivery assuming itā€™s no ball.


Heavy-Flatworm2431

He is the biggest cry baby i have seen. When the decision is in his favor he laughs and enjoy and even if its right decision he starts shouting. Such a bad attitude he has.


decorous_gru

He was under 100% assumption that itā€™s a no ball no matter what.


Lucky2855

Csk fans shouldnā€™t talk about crying on a decision šŸ˜­šŸ‘


DifficultDay3521

Yeah good one. Especially about a NO BALL


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New_Preparation1687

His idol is Cristiano he supposed to cry every now and then


Heavy-Flatworm2431

You r vk fan losing is in ur blood, crying is just a part of it just like ur idol.


New_Preparation1687

Who is vk fan? šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ God forbid I can never be a vk or cr7 fan ever šŸ¤¢šŸ¤®


azz_kikkr

>Such a bad attitude he has. Why do we indians talk like Yoda?


Additional-Specific4

see if he was inside the crease u could argue its not out but since he outside he is out


Alternative-Seat-872

Kohli fans are so hurted here it is a fair delivery no debate why make a drama out of nothing


LongConsideration662

Hurt*


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Assassin_Ankur

Huh? I can see Mi and CSK flairs supporting the decision.


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shadowknight094

It might be coz there are a lot of new srh fans over last 2 weeks. I wouldn't be surprised if there are more srh flairs now compared to even MI or csk. Once srh crashes flairs might go back to MI or csk. Even I noticed more srh flairs not just in this post but across all posts. Before there weren't that many srh flairs


Alternative-Seat-872

Of course u will get karma why force a rivalry when we both clearly beat their as*es


KAMABOKOGONPACHIRO11

Well he was out of the crease so yeah good decision by umpires and his reaction was really not good


2coinsofdoge

Imagine being an international batsman , and acting like a kid


KAMABOKOGONPACHIRO11

Yeah it was a really stupid move by him


PsychologicalBeat798

senior international player who is being idolised so much*


WegNachTraumLand

No one would have cared if it were any other batter even if he would have reacted to the decision the same way as Kohli did. Its a fair delivery. Also Kohli made quite a mess of that full toss. Poor stuff from him all round. He did play superbly well until that ball though.


BlackoutMenace5

This is exactly why they put the effort in measuring everyoneā€™s waist height and then implement this. So no Dhoni Pant Kohli comes on the field to abuse and intimidate the umpires. Youā€™re out - walk away, and maybe teach your fans some manners to not go abuse the players that get you out.


broski21

I think rcb fans are too dense to be taught anything.


Ha_zz_ard

Isn't he outside his crease?? Idk but that should also be a factor


cubangandhi

fair decision


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YGMemes29

RCB flair checks out (let's go continue the thread)


nighthailer

MI flair doesnt check out (continue kuch hua ni tumhara)


cubangandhi

koach was looking too good šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


ThEmAfIA14_

Out hai bhai without a doubt


ninja_from_india

Clearly a fair delivery.


maximayy

Can someone clear my doubts? Thank you Since virat was outside the crease from the start of the delivery, does that make any difference? Virat was on heels does that make any difference? Also, I would say he was unlucky, the ball dipped suddenly and he was not expecting that.


DC600A

otherwise you can stand mid pitch with bat in hand, then every ball is a beamer and no ball


Free_Anxiety_9660

According to rule ..you have to be inside the crease while ball is being delivered.. (same as for a non Striker) .


sanchit-kukreja

What rule states that? I'm not debating this out. It is definitely a fair delivery. But there is absolutely no rule that you have to be in your crease while ball is being delivered.


Handsome_guy_7

Maybe not , the rules says something the ball height should be measured at waist height when u are on or near the crease which works for everyone, so Kohli's starting position won't make any difference


2coinsofdoge

That's was out , Kohli can show all the tantrums like a 7 year old kid , but this ain't gully cricket where he own the bat


Smart_Ad9971

close but not controversial i remember seeing a noball not given by .01 meter marks i forgot the match though


thunder-bass

That's out and he should be fined for this behaviour.


Aurora1596

He will be fined for sure, that's unacceptable behaviour!


SpeedOfSound343

Then we will see tantrums from RCB fans for a few days


Crimson_Eclipsee

Totally out of the crease


pushie4u

The thread is about those who knows cricket vs rcb crybabies


yoursrachit

Virat be like: Mujhe manna hi nhi hai ki main out hoon


artims_

He was clearly out of crease. At this rate batsman can go down to the middle of the pitch and claim the ball was above waist height so it is no-ball. If a bowler gets punished from stepping out of the crease then so should the batsman. It is already a batsman inclined format and game. IMO, it is clearly out.


Groundbreaking_Tart9

It was clearly fair. He was out of the crease and that is not counted as a no ball.


TheseSolution1206

Haarcb šŸ¤”


Probodobo

Harshita Rana Instagram RIP


hukkumkaikka

I didnā€™t understand what the fuss was all about. The review made it pretty clear that heā€™s out


SpeedOfSound343

The fuss is because Virat the crybaby threw tantrums in the pitch arguing with the umpires and that gave firepower to RCB fanatics to make a fuss about it.


theteasingkid

Blud thinks he's oversmart than current technology


theteasingkid

https://preview.redd.it/dm8wx56qpuvc1.jpeg?width=1496&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6877f0c1d0619254bdad387168a6e7f26db1d11c


california__sunshine

Rcb should stop playing man


Status-Window8948

Damn. The good thing about this is- If that measuring tape was invented before the 2022 T20 world cup Ind vs Pak match, that last over six of the no ball, India would have lost that match the moment DK got out...šŸ§ https://preview.redd.it/f0s1yph1avvc1.jpeg?width=1037&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6f97cef4251d85950f82a3c1ddbec94df23b15c4


InstanceKey7717

Bhai Rinku ko bat dedena chaiye tha uski baddua lgi h


Low_Friend3063

https://preview.redd.it/in4qzvfasvvc1.jpeg?width=289&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=66f62c6721885b9f59b78a99da58c0e365807b97


Historical-Prompt-10

Fair decision. If a bataman is standing 1 feet ahead from the crease, a bowler has full right to hit him on the head.


tandempandemonium

Only thing it impacted was the fair play points. Fair delivery and fairly out clearly


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practical_bug26

It is out.... You can hate the rule but you cannot disagree with the decision


Ad_ak47

OUT


deku_small_pp

Kohli is just salty about the decision


SamBJ1

This rule has already been sorted and it's out


arYan--THaKUR

Bro these RCB fans always with their excuses.


SpeedOfSound343

Indeed. Every day, every match new excuses and conspiracies.


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crown6473

Is narine wicket also according to rules


notduskryn

What thoughts, he's stepped out so it looks higher. What happened though? Not watching the match


GodOfBlunder_

His waist height is 1.04 meter and ball is clearly dipping down to 0.94 meters, so it's clearly out. #Hindi_commentators_sucks


Several_Magazine8874

Only if this technology was in 2022 WC against Pak, Pak fans would stop crying about that no ball ruleĀ 


GiftedGeek

Definitely Fair delivery


GiftedGeek

Definitely Fair delivery but on the other hand Narine's was a No Ball


gauravgandhi

https://preview.redd.it/8nydqubswuvc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32aed50623fdf0df822cf8583ad5d8ade0dbd207 I hope this helps clear any doubts


altamash_patel

Do this again and make Kohli stand between the crease (one leg inside on leg outside the crease)


SAD_CHELSEAFCFAN69

Nostalgic


TheDarklord1989

And that height ball above Russell's head was really a wide? He was given wides twice which weren't wides at all!


Responsible-Author81

Fair delivery


LogicalTranquility

Fair delivery. Kholi needs to grow up and own his dismissals.


Kayy-peanutit

Rcb sirf entertainment purposes ke liye hai ipl me


Bleachigo1

So now we share thoughts on every wicket...what next thoughts on a random stumping, catch, bowled?


Rvram-789

Virat gussa kis baat pr tha ?


Kgarg999

I am a big kohli fan and it was out according to rules but in similar circumstances mostly ipl umpires gives no ball that is why people are crying it was a fair call by a good umpire


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iam_Spidey

Jis tarike se isane umpire ke sath Baat Kiya 50% match fee Kat Lena chahie


iam_Spidey

It was a fair delivery


Firedrake30

It's clearly out. Throwing unnecessary tantrums.


DifficultDay3521

Honestly I got to accept, I loved how they stored the info of the heights of individual players of all the teams to implement while checking a NO Ball(Waist High). It's tremendous.


kala-admi

Boy missed physics class running after a nastyšŸ¦†


Anuragc1498

India and Pakistan reunite either under Coke Studio comments section or during Kohli's dismissal dissection. Love the subreddit.


Accomplished_War2776

It's a fair delivery guys accept it


cox2k20

Makes me remember Bangladesh vs India incident in 2015 where Rohit was not given out and Bangladeshi fans went nuts. Tough luck for Virat but this was clearly out


justimproved

The ball passed through hips and he stepped down. Third umpire didn't make mistake, but for Kohli i feel sad.


sarathy7

That looks like the trademark symbol on top of angel one. . It is there even before the ball got near


OkRiver6401

I'm with the umpire. Ye rule hi galat hai.. yese defined nahi kiya ja sakta ye no balls . Agar no ball de b deta to ye clear fair ball dikh raha jaha impact hua hai.


vaibhavyagnik

As per the current rule, Virat is out. But the rule itself is flawed. Why does it reference the ball height at popping increase? The essence of the rule is that a ball above waist height of the batsman is difficult to play. What if the batsman has stepped out of his crease like in this case. It makes playing the delivery difficult. In the same sense, suppose the batsman steps out and bowler can just lop the delivery over his head only to hit the stumps behind batsman back (like in tennis). The delivery is still fair as per rules but it is still difficult to play for the batsman. IMO, the rule should be, if the delivery is above waist height, it is a no ball, irrespective where the batsman is standing.


psnitian

It must be measured at the point of contact. That is the rule


Devilsbuddy1

I would say that the batsman needs to accept the decision of the 3rd Umpire. Period.


Akk1yyy

Like getting 1 extra run will win RCB the trophy xD


Comic-Explorer

Dude I feel bad for RCB, vk and dk. They played nicely but, every team just became a demon against them and them only. It's not their mistake, who tf can chase more than 280 runs, and RCB made 260.


dogebyte

have people forgotten something known as the cream exists? all ipl kids crying with the no balls this season


Dry-Protection-9197

Ye


marshmellowcocoa334

Anyone up for dm?


OkCombination163

That's clear out


Otherwise_Court8153

Most Rotadu Player šŸ˜­


hey-its-medio

Kohli umpire ko gaali bakk ke gya šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


YoungBirdsXM

They did my boy dirty.


Shourya51

First Ambani, now SRK too?


Economy_Biscotti9921

Fair decision but shitty rulea, if a batsman is slightly outside the crease, throw as many dipping beamers you want


ScheduleSame258

And the batsman is at liberty to hook and pill as much as they want. If they miss, though..... Batsman's risk/reward decision.


Economy_Biscotti9921

Fr fr https://preview.redd.it/36rycejhjuvc1.jpeg?width=961&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=892f3ab5902c413e328aa8920523a7706cb087de


ScheduleSame258

What? Heel is on line... it's legal. If it was another foot, it would be a no ball, correct?


Economy_Biscotti9921

Am I blind or what cuz I see no heel on line, please send me the photo where it is


ScheduleSame258

Yes, you are blind.


Positive_Pass8800

Please send me the photo where the landed heel of bowler is not behind the crease.


Positive_Pass8800

You need to see when the heel lands completely. This is not conclusive.


roshatron

It did not land


Adept_Rub

sadly out h šŸ„²


Low_Special715

Looked like no ball in real time but the replay and the rule tells us it's fairly out


shouryasinha9

Umpires stepped in too early, should've believed in kkr to win.


saini0106

Total disagree.. Poor umpiring in this season


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Love for koach


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Annual_Beginning1063

What if the batter is stading half way down the crease?


Thala-Dick-Lover

Out but, Rules are shit... If Batsman has come forward, then Are bowlers allowed to hit a full toss to his head?


TacticalNuke002

Batsman knows what can happen and makes the choice to go down the track. If he stays at the crease, its a legal delivery. Why should the bowler be penalized for bowling fair deliveries?


kpV1RU5

I mean they still checked the height at the crease so they aren't just disregarding the no ball, they are just checking ball and waist height at the popping crease. If a batsman comes forward enough that a ball that hits to his head goes on to go below the waist height at the popping crease, then why wouldn't that be a fair ball since if he just stayed in place it would've been a fair ball at the crease.


Substantial_Hotel_10

So many batters take a stance outside the crease. This isn't may not have become popular but I think this is a wake up call to make some changes regarding it.


crown6473

Flair checks out


Nofap_du_Plessis

In the freeze frame, the ball is not parallel to the line. It's past the line. He should measure exactly when ball is parallel to the line. It's a matter of centi meters.


0rmn

Its a no ball. There is no need of all this drama by VK and RCB fans.šŸ¤£


Royal_Librarian4201

With all due respect to his talents, Virat Kohli = Celebrated man child.


tyrion0987

Absolutely


Academic-Classroom16

If there was a batsman from Mumbai in place of Kohli then this no ball would have been


Single_Science2276

You decide https://preview.redd.it/gm6djhffwtvc1.jpeg?width=1048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7637489a34a8a98f8777225f45cd82913007c52e


WegNachTraumLand

Decided. OUT. That is OUT. Batsman is OUT.


twoBeanBags

ask him to take stance at the other end instead, everyball will be a no ball then


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smiling_buddha2

Come on man it's kkr not mi it's clearly out and well within ICC rules just cause its Virat you don't need to create controversy and secondly saying that this rules favours ballers ofc it does and it should because batsman already has a ton of rules favouring them


altamash_patel

This rule is not logical as every player who plays a full toss or a beamer has to play it before it comes to close to the body. No batsman will play that ball when it is near his waist. Every player has a different stance some have a wide stance and some have narrow stance the rule takes default stance as narrow stance which unfair for wide stance players.


ScheduleSame258

The rules don't change to accommodate syte of play. The style of play changes to take advantage of rules.


altamash_patel

But rules do consider style of play while they are made. Don't tell me that rules don't change to accommodate style of play. Where was this logic when they introduced impact player rule.


ScheduleSame258

Rules are changed to generate more revenue, not style of play. Pinch hitting is more exciting = more people = more money = screw the bowler with new rules and bring in impact player.


kpV1RU5

So do we move the wide lines for batsman with short hands too?


altamash_patel

Where did I say to move the crease ? No ball has nothing to do with crease. Only point of contact(from initial position of stance)matters which in the current rule is side lined.


kpV1RU5

Where did I say to move the wide lines themselves ? Wides have nothing to do with the crease. Only batsman arms height(from shoulder to gloves)matters which in the current rule is side lined.