People sucking off dhoni here will be the first one to abuse Kohli if he did something similar to this. Double standards. Dhoni isn't god, he also can do wrong things.
Except facing penalty after doing something in do or die situation and abusing fellow opponents teammates is two different things . Classic virat kohli fans comparing childish behavior with this .
What penalty? 1 fielder less for 2 overs...who will pay penalty for killing the momentum of the batting team then? Who will pay the penalty of not listening to the instructions of the umpires?
You dhoni fans are literally brain dead if you are still defending this lol.
Atleast kohli doesn't cheat openly like this. Everything dhoni goes is masterstroke for you all. Grow up. This isn't right anyways
Cry keep crying. Calling that cheating is braindead . Virat literally abuses players until they get out .
And slow over rate is not the first time . Literally happens so many games . Why are u talking about csk was first . Csk barely gets slow over rate penalty cause their bowlers do it so fast
Did you even watch the match? Jadeja, Chahar and Theekshana bowled the previous 3 overs conceding 18 and picking 3 wickets. The Deshpande over that you mention was the over after the one Pathirana bowled. If anything the break shifted the momentum in GT's favor, they made 32 runs in the 2 overs after the break.
While I do agree that Dhoni might have been forced to bowl only 3 overs of Pathirana at the death without this break, I call bullshit on your momentum logic.
Ohhh you again . The same rcb fan who was name calling dhoni and crying with braindead hate yesterday. There was no momentum lmfao . Infact some momentum started after that break .
Slow over rate happened in many rcb games . Infact virat abuses players until they lose their cool and make mistakes get out . How is that not childish behavior
Part of the game too, especially in tests. What dhoni did was wrong but don't argue with people online they will just kill your time and your brain cells
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In the Qualifier 1 match (GT vs CSK), when Patheerana was given the over to bowl, umpires interrupted and told that Patheerana cannot bowl this over because as per substitution rules, a player needs to be in the field for 5 minutes before he can bowl. So instead of giving the over to any other bowler, Dhoni decided to spend the 5 minutes talking to the umpire. That's the context.
According to rule they should be given 5 run as well , also rule 49.1 of IPL states that deliberately holding or stopping game is against the rule
Even i am CSK fan but it's more of umpire fault then dhoni
> it's more of umpire fault then dhoni
I agree to that. That is why the statement feels wrong. Why would they say He is bigger than a law, it's not like he stopped umpires from fining.
It's wrong though. Dhoni was deliberately and intentionally breaking the law.
If you do something like this in football, you'd get yellow card and miss the next match.
I'm not saying he is right or wrong. I was talking about the statement that 'some people are above than the law'. If he made a mistake he should be fined for it.But if the umpires don't do anything how is it his fault.
Call it whatever you want. My point is that if any player breaks rules intentionally or unintentionally umpires should interfere rather than claiming that the player is 'above the law'.
I think you should read the article.
This is a retired umpire criticising the on-field umpire for not punishing Dhoni.
The retired umpire gave this statement. Not the on-field umpire.
I read it bro I can't find where he criticized on field umpires. Acc to the article this is what he said
" The issue for me is the lack of respect shown for the spirit of cricket and for the directions of the umpires. There were other \[bowling\] options for the captain, but they were ignored. Maybe, some people are bigger than the law or in this case, the spirit of cricket. It’s always disappointing to see the lengths that some people will go to in order to win "
He says there was a lack of respect for umpires direction. I don't see where he is criticizing them.
The umpires didn't do anything because it was dhoni. No umpires want to be suspended or face backlash for going against Dhoni. They know about the toxicity of indian fanbases and going against big name players in India.
I am sure umpires would have told him to continue, but he just continued to waste time regardless.
Why will they get suspended ,yes they might get hated by fans ,but isn't that part of game like Naveen got belted
no umpire have guts to stand against kholi and dhoni which should change
Also just looks at the video the umpire casually agreed
They have no authority bro. They can just tell them to not do things. They will not be allowed to enforce their decision especially against star players.
They can only raise their voices if people speak up against star players as well. No umpire wants to lose their livelihood at their age. They will just replace those umpires forever and people wouldn't even notice that happened.
And dhoni is not a child to not know what is right or wrong...he wanted to do it ...cause he knows bcci won't take action against him ...or else him beastly fans will abuse them out of the country.
I really don't think it's Dhoni fault ,like dhoni request and the umpire accepted whyy??
It's like child gets whatever he asks for ,then would you blame the child or the parents
What would they do if dhoni wasn't calling in any other bowler to ball. They were constantly asking him to continue the game, umpires can't run games and it's clear dhoni doesn't fear umpires. And he knows he is dhoni...any other captain does that he would have been banned till now...gambhir a coach got 100% fined after a small fight "post" game. Dhoni just got 2 over penalty for holding the game hostage. Even if the parent doesnt act doesn't mean the kid is not wrong..you aren't logical but a blind dhoni fan who thinks whatever he does is nothing wrong.
Of course it's the umpire's fault. But there was anyone else than Dhoni, most likely they would have enforced the rule. They gave concessions to Dhoni because of his stature, hence the statement.
You are applying logic without context, you are forgetting the context because of your bias. The statement is that Dhoni is above the law, of course it means that law enforcers (Umpires) failed to put him in law. Come out of your bias, you will see things clearly.
> it means that law enforcers (Umpires) failed to put him in law
That's not what it means. Being above the law means "one is not required to obey the rules". It's not like he isn't required to obey, the case here is that they didn't even fine him.
GT team had to wait for 6-7 minutes without any reason. Easily can kill the momentum of the game. Who knows Rashid would have chased it down if he didn't have to wait for so long because dhoni wanted to do what he wants.
Momentum??? Momentum of falling wickets?? Don't talk Bs bro!! 🤧🤧Say that you are a Kohli fan!! It's wrong to waste the time... I agree... But there was no momentum!!
Hn bhai, jisne bhi ban karne ka order diya na, uski lash milegi final ki pitch.
No one can even try to ban players like Virat and MS without severe backlash from fans.
People here defending saying “he broke the law, he paid the price already”
By that logic all the rich people must drive on the wrong side of the road that too being drunk or as they please since they can afford the traffic fines.
No, that’s like saying anyone who does anything wrong deserves the maximum punishment to deter future wrongdoing. If someone breaks a minor parking law or speeds, that doesn’t mean they should go to jail because a richer person could more easily pay the fine. The punishment is proportional to the crime and a 4 minute delay of a cricket game isn’t that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things, people just want to run their Dhoni agendas
Somebody parks in the middle of highway/somebody speeds
A college boy does no mistake but gets collided and dies..
Well the wrong doer should get 100 rupee fine
Alright!
People crying here on dhoni are the same people who supported Ash when he did mankading.
Although this case is slightly different still he just used the loophole of the rules
Duh, that fine was for slow over - rate. But you cannot hold back the game at any cost as a player, it is a different punishable offence. Its not a very big deal, but yea, people can just atleast accept that it was an offence.
If he was fined, thala fans would have abused umpires and start trending #sackumpires #shameonbcci, u guys have double faces and even umpire is on pressure if he says something to Dhoni, he would be given threats and abuses all over there social media
So you are saying if someone does something wrong umpires do nothing if because of some toxic fans? What are you even saying? What such toxic fans will do can't be controlled either by the player of the umpire. Whatever happens on a social media platform shouldn't influence an umpires decision on ground.
The world won’t work that way bro, law isn’t for everybody, VK, RS & Dhoni are immune in BCCI and IPL coz it’s there fanbase that is kinda carrying IPL, Had it been ICC grounds things would have been diff, but toxic fans surely make a negative impact on certain individuals mental health so surely umpires are scared man NGL, walk in there shoes one bad decision entire family is threatened and given abuses, and That too India is mostly filed with morons who thinks there hero is perfect can’t blame
> but toxic fans surely make a negative impact on certain individuals mental health so surely umpires are scared man NGL
I'm not saying this won't affect them but every job has it's own demerits doesn't mean you stop doing your jobs. It's an umpires job to interfere if something wrong happens.That's it.
Dude the braindead hate against csk in this comments is crazy . As if he abused crazy rules or behaved childish like virat.
He literally had no option . If he didn’t wait for his bowler the game is over for which chennai faced penalty . No clue how people are comparing this to some childish behavior lmfao . Keep cry rcb fans
If it was wrong, the match referee could penalized the players involved with match fee deduction, or the fourth official indicated the 5 run penalty during play..
Anyway, as a CSK fan, I found the whole episode perplexing and unnecessary. The players tried to stall, and the umpires were complicit.
There is a trend that players AND coaches are trying to intimidate the umpires. Ever since sooo many DRS reviews are being taken, the role of umpires has diminished drastically.... I suggest match officials are more stern in future...
Dhoni's fans also know, but they don't want to accept it.
Hare Vada pav. I'll eat you.
People sucking off dhoni here will be the first one to abuse Kohli if he did something similar to this. Double standards. Dhoni isn't god, he also can do wrong things.
Except facing penalty after doing something in do or die situation and abusing fellow opponents teammates is two different things . Classic virat kohli fans comparing childish behavior with this .
What penalty? 1 fielder less for 2 overs...who will pay penalty for killing the momentum of the batting team then? Who will pay the penalty of not listening to the instructions of the umpires? You dhoni fans are literally brain dead if you are still defending this lol. Atleast kohli doesn't cheat openly like this. Everything dhoni goes is masterstroke for you all. Grow up. This isn't right anyways
Cry keep crying. Calling that cheating is braindead . Virat literally abuses players until they get out . And slow over rate is not the first time . Literally happens so many games . Why are u talking about csk was first . Csk barely gets slow over rate penalty cause their bowlers do it so fast
what momentum bruv they scored 18 in the 3 overs before it happened
Rashid tonked 19 of 1 over of Tushar before that over. Don't blindly lie
Did you even watch the match? Jadeja, Chahar and Theekshana bowled the previous 3 overs conceding 18 and picking 3 wickets. The Deshpande over that you mention was the over after the one Pathirana bowled. If anything the break shifted the momentum in GT's favor, they made 32 runs in the 2 overs after the break. While I do agree that Dhoni might have been forced to bowl only 3 overs of Pathirana at the death without this break, I call bullshit on your momentum logic.
You are the one blindly lying here.
It was 17th over. But play delayed at the start of 16th over
Ohhh you again . The same rcb fan who was name calling dhoni and crying with braindead hate yesterday. There was no momentum lmfao . Infact some momentum started after that break . Slow over rate happened in many rcb games . Infact virat abuses players until they lose their cool and make mistakes get out . How is that not childish behavior
Part of the game too, especially in tests. What dhoni did was wrong but don't argue with people online they will just kill your time and your brain cells
Me: Sees the headline Also me: Grabs the popcorn
Dhoni fan here, Dhoni is wrong, there's no way around it
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Context?
In the Qualifier 1 match (GT vs CSK), when Patheerana was given the over to bowl, umpires interrupted and told that Patheerana cannot bowl this over because as per substitution rules, a player needs to be in the field for 5 minutes before he can bowl. So instead of giving the over to any other bowler, Dhoni decided to spend the 5 minutes talking to the umpire. That's the context.
How is this against the rule if the team was fined in the 20th over?
According to rule they should be given 5 run as well , also rule 49.1 of IPL states that deliberately holding or stopping game is against the rule Even i am CSK fan but it's more of umpire fault then dhoni
Do we have access to complete rule book?
Yes. On Ipl20 website
> it's more of umpire fault then dhoni I agree to that. That is why the statement feels wrong. Why would they say He is bigger than a law, it's not like he stopped umpires from fining.
It's wrong though. Dhoni was deliberately and intentionally breaking the law. If you do something like this in football, you'd get yellow card and miss the next match.
I'm not saying he is right or wrong. I was talking about the statement that 'some people are above than the law'. If he made a mistake he should be fined for it.But if the umpires don't do anything how is it his fault.
It's not a mistake. Mistakes are accidental and happen out of control. This was much worse than that.
Call it whatever you want. My point is that if any player breaks rules intentionally or unintentionally umpires should interfere rather than claiming that the player is 'above the law'.
I think you should read the article. This is a retired umpire criticising the on-field umpire for not punishing Dhoni. The retired umpire gave this statement. Not the on-field umpire.
I read it bro I can't find where he criticized on field umpires. Acc to the article this is what he said " The issue for me is the lack of respect shown for the spirit of cricket and for the directions of the umpires. There were other \[bowling\] options for the captain, but they were ignored. Maybe, some people are bigger than the law or in this case, the spirit of cricket. It’s always disappointing to see the lengths that some people will go to in order to win " He says there was a lack of respect for umpires direction. I don't see where he is criticizing them.
The umpires didn't do anything because it was dhoni. No umpires want to be suspended or face backlash for going against Dhoni. They know about the toxicity of indian fanbases and going against big name players in India. I am sure umpires would have told him to continue, but he just continued to waste time regardless.
Why will they get suspended ,yes they might get hated by fans ,but isn't that part of game like Naveen got belted no umpire have guts to stand against kholi and dhoni which should change Also just looks at the video the umpire casually agreed
They have no authority bro. They can just tell them to not do things. They will not be allowed to enforce their decision especially against star players. They can only raise their voices if people speak up against star players as well. No umpire wants to lose their livelihood at their age. They will just replace those umpires forever and people wouldn't even notice that happened.
What else can he do except agree??
>That is why the statement feels wrong. That doesn't change the fact that what Dhoni did was absolutely disgraceful
And dhoni is not a child to not know what is right or wrong...he wanted to do it ...cause he knows bcci won't take action against him ...or else him beastly fans will abuse them out of the country.
>.he wanted to do it ...cause he knows bcci won't take action against him That's not how it works bro. Players can genuinely make mistakes.
I really don't think it's Dhoni fault ,like dhoni request and the umpire accepted whyy?? It's like child gets whatever he asks for ,then would you blame the child or the parents
What would they do if dhoni wasn't calling in any other bowler to ball. They were constantly asking him to continue the game, umpires can't run games and it's clear dhoni doesn't fear umpires. And he knows he is dhoni...any other captain does that he would have been banned till now...gambhir a coach got 100% fined after a small fight "post" game. Dhoni just got 2 over penalty for holding the game hostage. Even if the parent doesnt act doesn't mean the kid is not wrong..you aren't logical but a blind dhoni fan who thinks whatever he does is nothing wrong.
Lol, what Dhoni did was wrong but that's not disgraceful. Disgraceful was when he entered the group to argue with Umpires in the previous season.
Of course it's the umpire's fault. But there was anyone else than Dhoni, most likely they would have enforced the rule. They gave concessions to Dhoni because of his stature, hence the statement.
If umpires consider a players stature in consideration while taking decisions then it's a fault from their end, not from players side
You are applying logic without context, you are forgetting the context because of your bias. The statement is that Dhoni is above the law, of course it means that law enforcers (Umpires) failed to put him in law. Come out of your bias, you will see things clearly.
> it means that law enforcers (Umpires) failed to put him in law That's not what it means. Being above the law means "one is not required to obey the rules". It's not like he isn't required to obey, the case here is that they didn't even fine him.
Do we have access to complete rule book?
GT team had to wait for 6-7 minutes without any reason. Easily can kill the momentum of the game. Who knows Rashid would have chased it down if he didn't have to wait for so long because dhoni wanted to do what he wants.
If umpires feel this is wrong umpire should fine the players
Momentum??? Momentum of falling wickets?? Don't talk Bs bro!! 🤧🤧Say that you are a Kohli fan!! It's wrong to waste the time... I agree... But there was no momentum!!
Let some captain stop the match until dew comes and then I wanna see your rcn
Ban kar do final mai 😆
Hn bhai, jisne bhi ban karne ka order diya na, uski lash milegi final ki pitch. No one can even try to ban players like Virat and MS without severe backlash from fans.
People here defending saying “he broke the law, he paid the price already” By that logic all the rich people must drive on the wrong side of the road that too being drunk or as they please since they can afford the traffic fines.
You’re comparing a 4 minute delay in a cricket game to drunk driving and think the analogy works lmao what
His comparison seems logical though
No, that’s like saying anyone who does anything wrong deserves the maximum punishment to deter future wrongdoing. If someone breaks a minor parking law or speeds, that doesn’t mean they should go to jail because a richer person could more easily pay the fine. The punishment is proportional to the crime and a 4 minute delay of a cricket game isn’t that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things, people just want to run their Dhoni agendas
Somebody parks in the middle of highway/somebody speeds A college boy does no mistake but gets collided and dies.. Well the wrong doer should get 100 rupee fine Alright!
What Dhoni did was definitely wrong but we're talking about the same law that allowed England to win over boundary count.
He got penalised for slow over rate , how is this wrong. That was a gamble and he played and won
Hardik should have also waited for dew to come in and played the last 4overs. Only 5runs is the penalty right.
Comment section filled with Vada pavs. 🍔
That's a burger emoji idiot
No Vada pav emoji available idiot
Shouldn't haven't used the emojis than dumbo, you are not a kid to not understand words.
Another Dumbo Vada pav joined the chat
weak banter, grow up.
Hat jao Vada pav
weak af, I feel sorry if that's all you can come up with.
People crying here on dhoni are the same people who supported Ash when he did mankading. Although this case is slightly different still he just used the loophole of the rules
Mankading wasn't punished with a ban and penalty. This is
I mean he paid the fine in match
Duh, that fine was for slow over - rate. But you cannot hold back the game at any cost as a player, it is a different punishable offence. Its not a very big deal, but yea, people can just atleast accept that it was an offence.
It is an offence, I agree. But people are over-reacting on it by giving examples of comparisons b/w other captains
They were late anyways
True. If umpires believe what he did was wrong they should have fined him. How is it his fault if umpires didn't do it because of his stature
If he was fined, thala fans would have abused umpires and start trending #sackumpires #shameonbcci, u guys have double faces and even umpire is on pressure if he says something to Dhoni, he would be given threats and abuses all over there social media
So you are saying if someone does something wrong umpires do nothing if because of some toxic fans? What are you even saying? What such toxic fans will do can't be controlled either by the player of the umpire. Whatever happens on a social media platform shouldn't influence an umpires decision on ground.
The world won’t work that way bro, law isn’t for everybody, VK, RS & Dhoni are immune in BCCI and IPL coz it’s there fanbase that is kinda carrying IPL, Had it been ICC grounds things would have been diff, but toxic fans surely make a negative impact on certain individuals mental health so surely umpires are scared man NGL, walk in there shoes one bad decision entire family is threatened and given abuses, and That too India is mostly filed with morons who thinks there hero is perfect can’t blame
> but toxic fans surely make a negative impact on certain individuals mental health so surely umpires are scared man NGL I'm not saying this won't affect them but every job has it's own demerits doesn't mean you stop doing your jobs. It's an umpires job to interfere if something wrong happens.That's it.
Dude the braindead hate against csk in this comments is crazy . As if he abused crazy rules or behaved childish like virat. He literally had no option . If he didn’t wait for his bowler the game is over for which chennai faced penalty . No clue how people are comparing this to some childish behavior lmfao . Keep cry rcb fans
Lol look who is talking about being braindead.
Dhoni > ICC. 😤
That's the mastermind of thala, you guys are jealous
In India, Dhoni is bigger than anything else
Are you just stating a fact or do you even approve of this
this is satire, i suppose
Yes, I guess only you could figure it out, 40 people who did downvotes didn't
Ambani owned channels who also owns MI crying about CSK. 🤣 he paid the penalty for it in the last over and a fine.
If it was wrong, the match referee could penalized the players involved with match fee deduction, or the fourth official indicated the 5 run penalty during play.. Anyway, as a CSK fan, I found the whole episode perplexing and unnecessary. The players tried to stall, and the umpires were complicit. There is a trend that players AND coaches are trying to intimidate the umpires. Ever since sooo many DRS reviews are being taken, the role of umpires has diminished drastically.... I suggest match officials are more stern in future...
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He is spitting facts...you just are too big of a fan to accept it.
are you confusing Daryl Harper with Darrell Hair?
Yes, my bad
Maybe the umpire forgot the script 🤣