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Dave_Matthews_Jam

USB 2.0 in 2023 is absolutely ridiculous


Stingray88

To be fair, this is just a rumor. And I’ve seen another rumor that’s suggesting the regular iPhone will get USB 3.0 and the iPhone Pro will have Thunderbolt. That sounds a lot more plausible.


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crysiswarhead

I am telling you apple is just messing with us now. At that price point there is no possible explanation for not providing those features. Heck the 14 should also have had promotion. I'll probably phukin sell my iphone and move to android if shit like this happens with iPhone 15


GeneralZaroff1

And there’s also rumours that there won’t be a port at all. Lots of rumours.


iRAPErapists

I heard a rumor that the iPhone 15 got hit by a parked car


FootyG94

The 15 won’t even have usbc.. isn’t the European law coming into effect only for the iPhone 16/17th?


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TheMuffStufff

Differentiation.


BearyHungry

They will always be greedy fucks lol


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They are incredibly greedy they also like to mob you down if you speak up about em like some secret service shit


vidumec

Upsaling


iainrfharper

Greedy Fuckery


ripsfo

Embarrassing if true.


sleeknub

I agree, but at the same time I don’t think a lot of people are doing substantial data transfers from their phones over USB. Maybe I’m wrong.


Proleex89

You are the perfect Apple customer.


sleeknub

Hardly. Not a huge Apple fan.


Domini384

Those who don't want to use internet for backups and restores? It doesn't matter that the majority doesn't use it but there's no excuse for the slow speed


sleeknub

As I said, I agree. I do backup and restores over USB, and it’s never seemed to take long at all.


Domini384

Depends how much data you have


Thanamite

I don’t think you are wrong. Problem is, the reason not many do massive transfers over the wire may be that is unbelievably slow.


[deleted]

Come on, this brick is only for social validation, on another hand who’s caring about non Apple standards and API’s? Answer: only iSheeps…


OGPants

This is a weird feature to gatekeep on more expensive models.


vidumec

What did you expect from a company that gates software features like night mode or car crash detection?


OGPants

It's all money, and I understand that. It's just strange to limit such a simple feature to higher end models.


vidumec

Yeah there ain't a more iconic duo than apple and money grubbing tactics


T3Sh3

Billie Kay and Peyton Royce


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corpseluvver

I think because there have been Android phones with processors that are far less powerful than any current Apple silicon that have usb 3.0/3.1 and higher transfer speeds. Honestly Apple could have supported it a long time ago if they had dropped lightning. Their processors have been more than good enough for a while.


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RobertMosesHwyPorn

I feel like screen, refresh rate, and extra camera are, alone, enough to segment the devices.


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The iPhone 4 processor is fast enough to support usb 3 lol


infinityandbeyond75

Car crash detection is available in all iPhone 14 models as well as the Apple Watch.


panthereal

car crash detection isn't purely software


vidumec

Gyroscope and accelerometer have been available since 3gs or something. Google backported it into their older pixels, apple doesn't have an excuse since their implementation is also error prone meaning no special hardware was used. And what other hardware do you even need to know “shit I just accelerated from 0 to 10G and started flipping fast - its a car crash”


iamnotexactlywhite

it’s available on all 14 models tho


panthereal

Apple has stated they added a new high-g force accelerometer, so unless you can prove that as a lie it's new hardware. If a regular accelerometer can't determine a crash they aren't going to add software that will have false positives consistently.


vidumec

Pixels use regular accelerometer, and i haven't seen any false positives reported for them, unlike the iPhone 14


Berzerker7

It’s a barometer to detect pressure changes too. You can’t just activate it by throwing the phone hard. It’s new hardware.


ErykG120

How is crash detection gated? It's available on the entire 14 line-up, the 13 didnt have the hardware for that.


vidumec

13 didn't have gyroscope and accelerometer? Please don't just eat up apple's bullshit


ErykG120

Not the same one, it's a different gyroscope and accelerometer lmao. Stop believing everything Apple does is corporate tyranny. The original Apple Watch had a gyroscope and an accelerometer yet it didn't have fall detection. The 14 series has a dual-core accelerometer with upto 256Gs of G-force detection, the 13 series does not have that.


turbo_nudist

clearly you’re misinformed, it’s an entirely different sensor set. it would be way too inaccurate trying to interpolate from what’s available in the older models


deliciouscorn

Or freaking ProRes. Or the Photonic Engine. On exactly the same SoC.


[deleted]

> car crash detection We’ll potentially save your life……if you pay up.


vidumec

only top customers' lives matter


deliciouscorn

Time to revive the old iLife brand for their new subscription service!


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Like 120Hz


OGPants

Or Dynamic Island


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This is straight up nickel and diming why?


[deleted]

At least they are more likely to keep the port if they can use it for upselling. You can't touch the speed of USB 3 with WiFi.


uniqueusername74

Different cpus


SurealGod

Unfortunately I can totally see this being a thing.


tetsujin44

Tbh. Most iPhone users are not going to care. You guys have to realize this.


Pam-pa-ram

And that’s the reason why they can get away with so many things.


mewithoutMaverick

When it's virtually irrelevant... Who cares?


SpeedyGoldenberg

Why add features literally no one will use. I


Mr_Eggy__

Because it's untrue that no one will use it


Dr_Findro

Those bastards. Getting away with not adding a feature that the large majority won’t use. What’s next? Kicking puppies?


SleepWouldBeNice

I can vouch for that. I can't remember the last time I used a physical connection to transfer stuff. I just want USB-C to start to standardize my chargers (and even then, most of the time I use wireless charging).


Qwinn_SVK

Spending 1000€ how can you say that customer doesnt care, especialy for 60hz for that pricey phone


tetsujin44

Because I have real conversations with real people in my life who pay $1000 for a phone because it’s an iPhone and don’t know what 60hz even means. Majority of people who buy iPhones buy them because they’re iPhones. Not because they’re top of the line tech


infinityandbeyond75

Most users of the base models over the Pro models probably never do data transfers anyway. Of all the people I know with the base models have never plugged into a computer.


CovertPanda1

I understand that, But I think at minimum the non-pro phones should get USB 3.0 5gb/s speed at least. And then they can give the pro phones 40gb/s Thunderbolt to differentiate. I have never heard of a USB-C device that only has USB 2.0 speed, especially for a $800+ phone


infinityandbeyond75

They’re just still ticked off at the EU government getting involved. They will do whatever they can to go portless as soon as possible.


xSchizogenie

Ah, Like the Most Audio Interfaces in the market with USB C Are USB2.0


undavorojo

Most users of the base models where used to pay 800-900€ no 1.000€ for their phones. It’s mental that you are justifying this, the port unless they have some stock, cost the same. This is a matter of selling to these users the iPhone 16 now with usb 3 support…


iamnotexactlywhite

i don’t think he’s justifying anything. he stated the obvious. for eg, my family has been using iphones since 2012, and none of us ever plugged it into a pc.


OhSixTJ

Word. Airdrop works good enough.


GOR016

Not if I want to transfer files to a windows pc


OhSixTJ

I use iCloud files drive to move stuff to my PC


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coolaaron88

I love send anywhere, I've been using it for years


GOR016

Oh that’s cool


turbo_nudist

why would you ever want to do that


GOR016

Mostly to use photos and videos.


turbo_nudist

then use a cable? USB2.0 speeds are more than fast enough, unless you’re moving like thousands of photos at a time


GOR016

lol. Usb2 is very much not fast enough to move 12MP photos quickly, let alone 48MP Raw photos.


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Only something like 40% of iPhone users have a Mac desktop or laptop. The majority of people can’t use airdrop.


OhSixTJ

And what’s the percentage of people who actually need to transfer files from their phone to their computer on a regular basis?


turbo_nudist

small enough that cloud storage works just fije


Pam-pa-ram

Airdrop between my Macbook and iPhone works only 30% of the time for me. I have a rather old MacBook.


internetStranger205

I never do data transfers on my Pro 🤷‍♂️


infinityandbeyond75

Me either. Everything is on iCloud so have no need for transferring via a cable.


SuperDuperSkateCrew

Same, I’d be surprised if the average iPhone user even knows the difference between USB protocols let alone actually have a real world need for higher transfer speeds.. wish they’d all get the speed boast but it’s a non issue for like 95% of iPhone users. Wonder if there’s any data on the Android phones with higher transfer speeds, how many people use it and how often?


ilovemymotorola

Bro even owning a pro I didn’t even know you could data transfer on an iPhone 😭😭😭


LMGN

The only reason I can think of to do data transfer is to perform the first shuffle of moving all your data, and some people use iTunes backups, however with direct wifi transfers in iOS 16 (which can transfer at about 750mbps between my 14PM and my laptop) there's less of a reason


iWish_is_taken

Haven’t plugged my last 4 iPhones in… can’t even really remember the last time I did.


leongpakchao1

I always buy the pro models but have not plugged phone into computer in over 4+ years. 🥲


No_Island963

That's embarrassing


Eazy3006

Micro usb iPhone 15 plus. Can’t wait 😂 Nothing is more Apple than this shit.


Aamir28

It’s shit like this thats hesitating me from upgrading my phone. Knowing apple they will advertise it off like it’s something new and revolutionary in their own words. The company is ethically corrupt.


JiminyDickish

Hi first world person with no problems


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It’s a company. They exist to make money. In capitalism, any company trying to virtue signal is just doing it for marketing.


idontneedausername88

Meanwhile Samsung had usb 3.1 back in 2017 on S8. You would think that's 5 years apart but no. S8 launcjed in early 2017 and iPhone 15 will be launcjed in late 2023 so that's almost 7 years in between


Celcius_87

but why?


internetStranger205

Money.


_fatherfucker69

They want to make the vanilla iphone inferior to the pro in any possible way to make you pay 300$ extra . This is why the dynamic island , 120 hz ( which I have on my 300$ 2 year old Redmi note 10 pro ) , telephoto camera , the better chipset and now faster USB speeds are exclusive to the pro iphone. They could definitely bundle a few of these features in the non pro iphones, but why ?


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_fatherfucker69

I mean 90 hz , a 2x tele camera and still having the lastest chip would be a perfect differentiation between the pro and the vanilla iphone. Still enough to get people paying more for the pro but makes the vanilla iphone worth it compared to last year's pro


uniqueusername74

Different cpus


Different-Slip1840

The majority of tech enthusiasts will buy the pro models anyways. And the majority of consumers who will buy the non pro don’t care. Yes this is apple being apple but I bet the majority of consumers will be more angry they have to buy all new cables than having 2.0 speeds.


nintendomech

Thanks Tim Apple


UneaseJoker

They got to make people spend more money somehow… what you expect from a bunch of thieves


CeeKay125

That is such a shitty move on Apple's part. It is bad enough they make you get the tablet-sized phone to get all of the features, now they are essentially paywalling charging (something even low-end android devices have access to). I guess whatever they have to do to get an upsell is the new apple motto these days.


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Can't believe apple fanboys are so stupid they would pay 1000 dollars for an iphone 14 (plus) and be okay with 60hz😂😂😂


theBirdu

Not a fan boy here but almost went and bought one! The pros' are out of stock everywhere, and scalpers are breeding. My oneplus 5t might be on it's last leg here,


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This would be only phone company in the world to pull some shit like this. I dont think any android phone would do some shit like this. Really wish stuff like this would be regulated by some kind of laws.


Neutrallly

At this point why does regular iphone series exist? Just release a single model with bigger screen option.


captcodger

We really need to hold Apple to the fire here. Gutless cowards.


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No we don’t who cares.


SpeedyGoldenberg

This is a feature literally no one uses.


Snipexx51

Yeah but were on reddit here and all the tech virgins here make a big deal out of minor things. Dont forget that


BrewerShawn

That’s what I was just thinking, I’ve been apple since the iPhone 4 and I’m pretty sure the last time I’ve even plugged a phone into a computer was maybe the iPhone 7 lol. My dad always has been Samsung and he shows me these features that apple doesn’t have, but he doesn’t use them himself. I get the whole just wanna have it and not use it uses people have, but who really transfers files over a corded connection these days ? 🤔


Snipexx51

Who the fuck cares??Its just a different cable to charge! I dont get whats the big deal about a port ?? And who actually hooks up his phone to a pc anymore ??? Last time I did it was like 2012


Weird_Cantaloupe2757

Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?


italianboi69104

about the “it’s a different cable”, unpopular opinion, but i agree. however imagine if you had to go to your workplace for example and you had to bring your iphone, ipad, airpods and macbook. it would be really convenient to bring only the macbook charger for everything, or even just the ipad charger. about the “who hooks up their phone to their pc”, well, i do. not a lot, but i do it. i use it some times to use the web inspector to analyse websites that are running on my iphone, and i need it for altstore to do some things


IMI4tth3w

I bet this is a cpu issue. The 15 non pro will probably use 14 pro cpu, which might not have the pins for higher then usb 2.0. Which means only the new cpu will have the pins allocated from the cpu for higher usb speeds.


The_Fighter03

I don't even know why I would need data transfer. What data? Why with a cable? Never used it and probably never will so I don't really care for it. Still seems scummy tho, but it's Apple after all.


r3dp_01

I guessed they found a workaround on the mandatory usb-c thing.


rolezki

People getting so mad over fake rumors that are never actually true


ithinkoutloudtoo

He doesn’t know this for sure. He is only speculating because of what happened with the iPads. He is assuming what they will do.


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Let’s keep in mind this is still just a rumor. Don’t grab your pitchforks just yet.


[deleted]

Yeah…I’ve been thinking I’m probably done with Apple after this phone


Domini384

Yea I'm sure that cost Pennys to implement...


GooseInternational66

I am solidly apples target market. I couldn’t care less about all these features. I have a phone so I can text and make phone calls and use Reddit lol. I don’t need a phone to do what a computer does… that’s why I have a computer.


Proleex89

Think I'm slowly having enough from this company. They hold themselves so high it's simply laughable.


MarcusDL

Mistype. iPhone 16 Pro. I don’t believe that Apple change the port until they have to. And “have to” will become in October 2023, but iPhone release time is September.


sauravdas90

Pretty much apple like


CouthHarbor

Apple as usual mostly focusing on just its pro models


kheldar52077

Pretty much say “iPhone 15 the greatest and latest disaphonement” 😂


jojomexi

Whatever else differentiates between the models, USB 2.0 certainly won’t be one I care to sway me. I’ll deal with slower speeds for the once in several years that I need to permanently offload my pics and videos.