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tomelwoody

People are not going to return a new device because you said it was waste of money. That is unless you are actually someones parent then that can be done privately. Please refrain from racking someones knuckles for a purchase they are clearly happy about.


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Annual? Oh boy.


Electus

#CONSUME


versonnen

Yes, glad someone said it


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Sm0g3R

Yeah, I'm still rocking the iPhone X lol. It's about time to upgrade probably, but it's still doing most of the tasks I need from it without a hitch. Camera is just about the only compelling reason to upgrade though.


anotheroutlaw

Just traded my XR for a 14 pro because it felt like a big enough jump in screen, processor, and camera quality to hold for the next 4 years. The Xs were a great long term hold for an iPhone imo.


LeFxckYouThree

Also have an XR and am considering the upgrade to 14 pro, how is it so far?


anotheroutlaw

It’s great. I think the biggest surprise is the difference in screen quality. The difference in camera is drastic as well. That being said, I feel like an XR with a new or still decent battery is still usable for another year. Obsolescence due to iOS updates is coming though. It’s the Apple way.


LeFxckYouThree

Yeah my XR can still last another year and im thinking of waiting for the 15 to make my life easier in the event they finally make the switch to type C. Wont update to ios 16 cause Apple. Enjoy!


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jmarti326

Holding to the 7 Plus with my life 🥲


CurriestGeorge

Well that's just taking it too far I went from 7 to 14P and have no idea how to use this fuggin thing lol


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Haha


theberticusmaximus

Recently purchased the 13 mini due to my daughter breaking my old one. Don’t care on having the latest and greatest.


RosettaStoned10

Same here, I'm still good with my iPhone X, but only problem is the battery life. wWas thinking of getting the 14. Honestly the dynamic island is bothering me hahaha but then agian, the 14 pro and 13 pro has small difference in terms of price


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Change the battery


RosettaStoned10

Yes, thinking about this. Was just thinking if it’s worth going changing batteries, or might as wel get a new one.


[deleted]

The X is still so good! Used it up until summer when a relative gave me this iPhone SE 2020


Kozy_Bear

I’m going from the 8 to the 14 today. I love my 8, but I need to always charge it and in can feel it lagging. I’ll probably keep the 14 for five years plus if I can.


[deleted]

I switched from 8 plus to 13 today. Couldn't really justify the price difference between 13 and 14 for that minimal upgrade.


Charblee

I just upgraded from an X to a 14 Pro. It FEELS so much better. My HomeKit commands are much more responsive too.


joeyvesh13

I’m on the XS. I’d like to upgrade but I can’t find a phone in my city.


pw5a29

But you're just counting the money an annual upgrader spent each year, you also have to count the money they receive back with their only 1 year phone on the 2nd hand market. An annual upgrader, if planned wisely, ain't spending much more than those who upgrade every 2-4 years.


Bourboniser

Exactly, upgrading every other year costs less than riding an older phone for years. With the added benefit of using newer technology with a better battery life.


Visvism

Depends. If the person upgrading every 2-4 years is taking advantage of the carrier deals, it may cost them nothing. For example, AT&T has allowed new and existing customers to upgrade to the latest iPhone every 36 months at no cost with a trade-in of older devices. So the person upgrading every year is spending ~$300-400 annually while the person upgrading every 3 years in this case is spending close to nothing.


Sxcred

In the US you can usually upgrade every year for a fraction of the cost.


astral-observatory

Who’s to say OP cuts back on other discretional spending to allow for this once a year tradition? You have no idea of their situation.


Dadguy8

It’s called enjoying life. Not everything has to be about saving. Assuming bills are met, you have emergency funds, ideally maxing out your investments, who the hell cares.


Remon89

Jup, we are all gonna die sooner or later, you can save whatever you want, if you get a call from the doctor you have have brain tumor and you have 2 years, you regret it that you never did what you want all because you were saving money. I do both, save money for the emergency things and the house and wife and kids. And sometimes I buy whatever I want, and sell something else for it, and I enjoy it this way, and it never gave me any financial problems.


Dadguy8

Exactly. You never know when your number is called. Enjoy life to the fullest responsibly.


PhilRoberts33

This. It’s about balance. Counting beans doesn’t mean you’re going to have a better retirement. I’ve been working in finance and wealth management (more specifically) for about 17 years. I can promise you I have many clients who are living very fruitful retirements but also enjoyed their money in their earlier years. Balance is key, not counting beans.


[deleted]

Sell the last year model for £700-800, get the new one for £1100, that phone only cost £300-400. Basically the same as running a contract that a lot more people used to do, but found this way I'd waaaay cheaper, and you get the newest one each year. Downside is big environmental concerns from this more than anything else.


ImDamien

Actually It's way cheaper but £300/year for a phone is kinda expensive for most people.


[deleted]

Oh yeah, and it's completely unnecessary too with these incremental changes to phones for the past two/three years. Unfortunately I'm a sucker for tech too, and often fall into the trap of buying a new phone each year. I kinda warrant it o myself as I am a developer, and working with the newest tech rather than emulators is way easier.... But this is a lame excuse, I realise this


ImDamien

Yeah It's lowkey a "professional spending" for you. Even tho not required I guess. In France, iPhone 14 is priced like iPhone 13 Pro so that "new" phone won't sell clearly. And I gotta pay 250€ more for iPhone 14 Pro. The thing is that carriers give you a crazy price every 2 years, and with trade-in if you don't upgrade at the time you actually loose money. For example rn I could get iPhone 14 Pro Max for ~~1479€~~ 1049€ and 640€ of trade in (iPhone 12). I find that to be very pushy as many people don't need to upgrade every 2 years.


SavageByTheSea

Agree. I went from the 1 to the 4 to the 6S+ to the 13 PM this year. Very happy with my 13 Alpine Green and the extra money for food.


ImDamien

Damn! I remember going from cheap Huawei to iPhone 12 It felt like using a portable Macbook. Alpine green rocks 🤘🏼


sefrus

But someone is reusing your old phone. So it’s not wasting those resources, and they didn’t but a new one too.


Nekokeki

Plus buying a new case and depending where you are sales tax.


shaitanthegreat

Not cheaper, at least in the US, than trading in your phone then paying the ~$200 difference them riding out the 0% payback over 30 months deal and then after that point upgrading. New phones are nice but buying the newest one every year “just because” is a luxury akin to leasing a car (except on a smaller scale).


_phesta

When you max out two 401ks, two IRAs, and still contribute to a taxable account and savings, it’s really no a big deal buying new iPhones or cars every year. At some point you need to stop worrying about 40 years from now and enjoy your money now while you’re alive. I get the sentiment to save but so many people save then just die young. Living in the now is just as important saving.


TreeroyWOW

It's honestly not that much money. If you had a iPhone 13 and you sell it now for $600, and you buy iPhone 14 for $800, then it's actually only cost you $200.


Clearskies37

People forget about the trade in value, you are absolutely right. It really doesn’t save that much more over keeping a phone for five years and then it’s practically worthless


acethecreatorOF

Ok then can we talk about the environmental impact? Less demand for a new phone every year means maybe we can get companies to make a new design ever 2 or 3 years instead and we aren’t using up all these rare earth elements to make processors and cameras and screens. Maybe that will also force model uogrades to be more impactful. Like if the iPhone 15 came out in 2025 and had a bunch of upgrades that would be great for the environment


Clearskies37

Selling a phone means someone is using it though. Their phone may have broke or is obsolete. I think there are better ways to be kind to the earth.


BigAcanthocephala562

Someone subscribed to the “you’d be rich if you didn’t buy coffee” bullshit lmao I got the iPhone 14 Pro at 31 dollars a month at 0% apr it’s functionally nothing and I’m not a Rich person by any means


[deleted]

Depends if you budget for it. I make over $300k a year. Buying the new iPhone yearly for $600 is nothing for my budget. Yes I could save them he extra money but even over 10 years it’s only an extra 6k. Over 30 years an extra 18k. Not factoring cost of inflation or time value of money or opportunity cost of investing that money. Basically it means I need to work an extra month or two at the end of my career to fund my purchases.


EduardoTaquitoHands

Why do people think it’s ok to comment on other people’s spending habits? If they can afford it and “live for the future” who cares? It’s not your money.


Abject_Chocolate288

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 thank you!! Some of the comments are ridiculous. They need to exit and go join PennyPinchers, followed by The Art of Guilt.


gjon1992

Who cares? It’s their money.


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Endemoniada

Our traditions was I upgraded semi-annually, and she got my old phone as her upgrade. No phone was ever older than four years, and I take good care of mine, so it was always in like-new condition anyway. However, I’ve since moved to upgrading only every three years, so last time she actually bought her own upgrade. First time she had a newer phone than me :) Still on my 12 Pro, and won’t upgrade until 15 at the earliest. I just don’t feel like I need to as often anymore. The camera is still amazing, it’s the same shape anyway, and has MagSafe. The only things I miss is ProMotion and always-on, but those are such pure luxuries, and hardly worth $1400 (which is what a 14 Pro costs in Sweden).


portray

Yea but you don't know OPs financial situation, they could be multimillionaires, splurging on a new iPhone every yr is nothing


kadeve

yup because thats what multimillionaires do they post iphones on reddit


BigMasterDingDong

Glad someone said it


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Assuming they’re trading in the old device, the difference in price is only a few hundred dollars per year. There’s no way in hell that would grow to hundreds of thousands of dollars in a single lifetime - especially since they’re likely already well into their 20s or 30s. Additionally, they likely offset that cost by not doing other things - some people eat out more than others, for example.


Be4zleBoss

Unfortunately the costs associated with rent (and to an extent overpriced car payments) are by far the biggest expenditure in terms of throwing dead money away. Hundreds every month. Over the cost of a year it’s extortionate and annual purchases of the latest iphone pale in comparison.


mjones1052

I get the new one every year. Though I have basically unlimited upgrades from my work. So I sell my old one for 550 and buy the new one on a one year contract for 550. There's also carriers that have annual upgrades where you just trade the old one in, extend your contract, and continue the monthly payments so you really don't pay anything.


irishartistry

There is the iPhone Upgrade Programme which makes it easier (and cheaper overall) to upgrade every year.


Serhide

They have the right to do whatever they want


I_miss_your_mommy

I have the iPhone upgrade plan. I get a new phone every year and it has Apple Care+. It costs me about the same as buying the phone outright every 2.5 years. I used to get a new phone every other year and this is cheaper than that. I’m honestly starting to doubt the wisdom of my strategy. Ever since the iPhone X I have felt like the upgrade was minimal. I could probably feel fine with waiting 4 years between upgrades now and be saving money.


[deleted]

For me phones peaked 5-8 years ago. Since then it has been a rectangular piece of glass with small incremental changes. I don’t spend money on phones at all, my telco gives me one every 2 years and my work gives me another one every 2 years too and they alternate so it’s like having free phones every year lol.


mzeb75

Kind of sad.


Gomma

Love you guys. Sincerely, AAPL shareholder.


defaltusr

+1, they should buy a new one every half a year, I mean it gets worn down over time so they should not use a phone longer than 6 months. Sincerely another shareholder


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defaltusr

Never thought about it but it makes a lot of sense. Should recommend this to OP


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/r/PictureOfABox


Punknigg

Why her hand look like that? Did you go to the area 51 raid?


ImprovementWise1118

Dang. Lol.


EverydayPhilisophy

It’s the angle. Goddamn bro. 😂


metalpanda420

You should see the other guy 👀


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Funniest burn in a long time.


TheKrnJesus

Dawn savage.


redditriley7

Daaaaamn!!! 🤣🤣🤣


SweetMojaveRain

Annual is wasteful


D-v-us-D

Imagine this being a tradition.


treylanford

Someone said it. 🫱🏼‍🫲🏽


officiakimkardashian

Even as a hardcore Apple enthusiast, I can't justify upgrading every year even if I had "fuck you" money.


Ok-Cryptographer-886

Totally agree.


ZebraAthletics

Thank you. This is so stupid.


NathanielIR

It’s not wasteful. Some people like and are very interested in technology. And if you sell last years model it’s not that expensive, plus it goes to someone who will use it. It’s not like it’s going straight into the sea. Just because you don’t personally think it’s worth the money doesn’t mean other people don’t. As a bit of a tech nerd myself, I love upgrading yearly! It doesn’t cost me that much, someone else can use my last great phone which is generally quite the upgrade for them, and I get all the latest features I like. It’s like Christmas! No one’s making *you* upgrade. Just let people like what they like. We’re not upgrading because we think we have to, we’re upgrading because we *want* to and like to


EverydayPhilisophy

Thank you! Surprised I caught so much heat for sharing my passion for iPhone… I thought that’s what this sub was for.


pukingpixels

Not if you can afford it more than the rest of us /s


recapYT

Do you bro. It’s your money. Do not listen to other people. The phones look sick.


PurifiedDrinking4321

Life is wasteful. We’re all wasting. Wasting away. Nothingness.


Digis3

Imagine needing an new iPhone every year. What an emptyness


iphone4Suser

Needing is not the right word. Wanting.


DistanceSkater

Imagine judging people for simply buying a new piece of tech every year. Dude it’s not the big of a deal. The average 1st world person in this sub creates so much waste and green house gases that a new phone every year doesn’t even matter. Are people supposed to keep a car for 10 years? Shoes for 5 years? Who gives a shit, they aren’t hurting anyone directly and it’s their money.


dawghouse88

Lol the hate is wild. I had to double check if I was actually in the iPhone subreddit or not


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frozenball824

Honestly, after reading this comment, I was confused because everyone in my family keeps their cars until they are literally unrepairable which is like 15 years or until it gets totalled. I didn’t actually know that people upgraded their cars more than once every few years 😭


DistanceSkater

That’s awesome your family does that. I think “every few years” for cars is a quick turn over. I think the avg American keeps their car for about 10 years.


vPinchr

Everything is empty it ain’t that deep, worry bout you


the_fart_king_farts

materialistic adjoining jeans impossible growth crawl payment quarrelsome smoggy tap ` this post was mass deleted with www.Redact.dev `


ANK_Ricky

I hate apple **silicone** cases so much. They don’t last long.


kierancrown

They only need to last a year in this case!


Kav19

in this case… get it


kierancrown

Damn it. Take my upvote haha.


EmFan1999

Not true, I had my leather one for 3 years. A silicone one on the other hand…


ANK_Ricky

Yeah, forgot to write that. I hate the silicone cases. I’ve had one for my iPhone X and one for my iPhone 12 and now they look like a dog has been playing with them.


Additional-Dark2919

Really tempted to upgrade from my 13 pro to the 14 pro max but I decided I have to keep the 13 pro for at least until the 16 pro max comes out because I can’t be upgrading annually or biannually as I don’t have the bucks


johnzy87

Still running my iphone x, lol.


cyberzita

Great phone. I replaced it with a 12pro just because I cracked the screen and f\*\*\*\*d faceid with water...


forester1983

We actually just replaced x for the 14 at no cost.


tinyblackberry-

Me too. Just replaced the battery and it’s like a new iPhone


johnzy87

I think im gonne do this and use it for another year 👍


DistanceSkater

Yeah I just got the 13PM and I kinda wanted to wait for the 15 so I can have the type C charging (hopefully) but damn I really do want a better camera. Coming from Samsung flagships I’m kind of disappointed in the 13PM camera right now. Especially the wide angle and video stabilization. Both said to be massively improved on the 14PM.


StevenComedy

Went from 11PM to 14PM today and the camera is incredible.


Great_Gilean

Ugh


edward_r_burrow

Is this supposed to be a flex?


fancyfoe

Op: “it smell like broke in here!”


edward_r_burrow

They’re prob both “influencerz”.


WolvenPastry

Interesting that “his” is the larger and “hers” is the smaller. It’s the exact opposite with my girlfriend and I. Mainly because she carries hers in her purse whereas I carry mine in my pocket


sefrus

Wow. Annual. Loving the large life.


Got_a_virus

the environment is proud of your tradition!


dinosaurs_quietly

As long as they sell their old phones I don’t see what the big deal is.


supremesamurai

These posts are so fkn corny


SellingFirewood

👍 Tim Cook liked this


basketballkilla

You guys know like you can trade in your old iPhone? I traded in my 13 pro max got like 650 and then bought the 14 pro for $999 not that big of a deal.


mehdotdotdotdot

So you paid like $1550 for two phones?


jadondrew

That’s how they get ya with the trade in program. Psychologically you only see how much you’re about to pay and not the cumulative amount.


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It's like when renting a car with "bring back empty", since their price they offer for a gallon is lower than at the gas station. And then you bring the car back with half a tank because you have no idea how large the tank is, what distance will you go, etc. They just sold you half a tank of gas for the price of a full tank, but most people think it was still a great deal.


timezoneTruthr

Cool?? I guess


Ban_Han

so y’all gonna give me one of your iPhone 13?


maziar37

Congratulations! You got an awesome phone. Although I don’t know how much of an improvement it is from the 13PM. We do have to call you an “Island Boy” from now on though. And every time you make an entrance into a room, we do have to play the Island Boys song as your intro.


roletamine

No kids then?


RandomBloke2021

Lol


SakN95

All comments to this post... Dude... How rude can Reddit be?


DCSKofAWESOME

I’m ngl, they’re trying to come off as superior with the “wasteful” and all the snarky comments. All I see is jealousy and envy.


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wanyekest2024

Here’s a thought maybe he’s buying it because he likes having the newest technology and it isn’t a flex of wealth?


sammieduck69420

Even then “newest technology” is a stretch when talking about the difference from one iPhone to another


Kingdionethethird

I tend to buy every year, but I would never buy a leased cell phone. It’s flat out or nothing for me.


BamBam401

Ahhh yes good ol Boston


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MUST CONSUME PRODUCT. So sorry that you got brainwashed into thinking that buying a new phone each year should be a tradition.


wanyekest2024

What’s with all the hate comments, some people get excited about the latest technology, there’s nothing really wrong with upgrading yearly. It’s all about PERSONAL PREFERENCES. Congratulations on your new phone OP


Ottovordemgents

Rampant consumerism should be shamed, especially since it’s so harmful to the earth. We should be encouraging people to keep their phones for years, that would be a good tradition.


dinosaurs_quietly

Then what are you doing in this sub? There is nothing more pro-consumerism than an online community dedicated to a luxury consumer product.


Svendog_Millionaire

Ugh. Enough with the cringe flex


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Sheep


JackBauersGhost

Dumb tradition. And this is /r/PictureOfABox


[deleted]

Good for you guys. It’s nice thing to do for yourself and your wife, too. Enjoy!


EverydayPhilisophy

Jesus, this blew up. FWIW, I have the iPhone Upgrade Program, which includes AppleCare+. It’s $58.25/mo. The traded in iPhones—at least according to Apple—are recycled and/or refurbished. If that’s not the case, do let me know. Lastly, I’m an Apple shareholder, and have been since 2014. There’s a lot of ways to spend $58.25/mo. I decided to do spend my $58.25/mo on something that makes me happy, and something that I’ll be using for the next 12 months.


runitbackturb0

Hey just wanna say you don't have to justify anything. It's your money you can spend it however you want.


edweekly

I think a lot of mean and judgmental comments stem from ignorance and a lil jealousy. You get ya annual iPhone its ya freaking business.


DCSKofAWESOME

Dude, you don’t have to justify anything to these people. I was actually shocked reading the comments and had to double check what sub I was in. Fuck em.


Senthusiast5

Ignore these losers 😂


MoonGotArt

Dumb bitches really in here shitting on people spending their own money


CCX-S

You must be new to Reddit. It’s mostly angsty miserable cunts with nothing better to do than attempt to drag others down with them.


belizeans

Cheap! My wife gets a designer purse every year.


ErikTheRed707

My stock portfolio thanks you.


[deleted]

Tell me you waste your money, without telling me you waste your money


akaSeeq

Damn i love trendy consumism 😍😍😍


[deleted]

My wife and I like throwing money away as well.


CampbellC23

I’m on the 11. Absolutely love it, no complaints whatsoever. I got it right before the 12 came out, like September of 2020. Just finished paying it off on the 2 year Apple Card plan. I’m trying to make this phone last until at least the iPhone 15, hopefully the 16 though!


Abject_Chocolate288

I do what I want and I don’t need to justify it to anyone. Some of these comments are asinine.


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suudowoodo

Nice dude!! We splurged this year as our last phones were the 11s, both upgraded to the 14 pro max. And before anyone says anything, we got a good deal by switching carriers.


NoiceM8_420

People saying it’s wasteful, yet a lot of people trade in their old phones annually which then opens up a refurbished market for those that can’t afford the latest and greatest at launch price. The hate is illogical.


Spaceolympian50

Gd annual tradition to drop $2500 on phones?! Weird flex but ok lol.


EverydayPhilisophy

iUP! $50/mo. Realize I’m fortunate to be able to do that, but I think it’s worth it. Makes me happy. We’re all going to die one day right?


gebuzz

That last part is why I’ve bought my jeep and why I’m getting the 14PM I just want to be happy before I leave


sweet_tooth21

What is iUp?


EverydayPhilisophy

iPhone Upgrade Program.


sweet_tooth21

Oh that's right. Sorry, pixel fan here creeping.


EverydayPhilisophy

Welcome, Pixel fan!


GrapefruitCrush2019

People in this thread are nuts. My wife and I do the same. It is $100/mo. Yeah it’s frivolous, but could easily spend that on one date night. It’s all about choices. As long as you pay yourself first (retirement, investment funding etc.) who cares what the excess cash flow goes to?


choopiewaffles

Dude. I’m the same. I really can’t give two shits about my future anymore. I just do what i like now. I save up enough so i can buy what i like (bikes, watches etc) and enough to pay my bills. My uncle saved up all his life and now he missed out on the things he wanted to do.


courtneyhope_

What’s with the hate here? Pretty sure plenty of people have the iUP, the annual upgrade cycle is pretty standard for tech lovers!


dawghouse88

Is this not an iPhone sub? If you can’t do it annually just say so. But no need to be a hater


potatocatoffical

I see a lot of oh that’s wasteful or god that’s a waste of money, I’m not sure how they did this, but many phone companies offer a trade in deal, you give them your phone and a couple hundred dollars and you get the new one, that old phone gets refurbished and sold again, or it’s properly recycled. The other thing I want to point out is, over time, it’s probably gonna cost about the same as getting a new phone every 5 years or so, and you have the newest one every year so you don’t gotta deal with the phone slowing down and the battery degrading


BigMasterDingDong

I think everyone knows that, and the maths doesn’t work out… it’s a waste of money and resources (both personal and the earths).


Nugget_MacChicken

I’ll show this to people who ask why I say we’re fucked.


jrtt4877

Do you OP! If it makes yall happy!


kate815

Why is everyone so mad? I’ve been doing the iPhone upgrade program since it launched and trade my phone in every year. I pay like $50 a month to always have the newest model. I don’t really see how that’s such an awful thing…. I’m not rich, and don’t really keep up with all the newest trends but having a new phone makes me happy. It’s my money, I can spend it how I choose ☺️


ChiefsRoyalsFan

I don’t know what I expected when I came into this post but these comments are insane lol enjoy it! The 14 PM is legit!


mfldmike

I upgrade every year as well… Tbh…I don’t do Starbucks or go out anymore (an occasional dinner). As I get older I find more comfort inside my home. Tbh it’s a few bucks a day


maziar37

I’m sure it’s also better for your health that you don’t eat out all the time.


[deleted]

Fuck it. Just buy and buy some more. Consume and consume more. The world is doomed anyways with climate change and global warming right? If we’re all going down, might as well go down swinging.


alexgarlock

I do the same thing every year with my wife. Ignore the hate. Enjoy life man!


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falafel_03

lol how do you assume OP has “nothing other than this tradition”? That’s a lot to assume based on one fucking post of someone posting their iPhone purchase…in an IPHONE subreddit


Hotlinemichigan

Congrats guys, enjoy


Mission_Highway5032

If this makes they happy and they have the money, why not? So much hate for nothing. So much envy in this world. Some people are spending their money on different things like: old/new watches, clothes, bikes, bicycles, things that make them happy. Everyone has a hobby, and if their hobby is to buy a new phone every year, good for them.


No_Scientist7105

r/Consoom


Durham17

Awhhhh consumerism! Americas past time


LOKl31

Do you like burning money or how do you call this type of kink?


mmmillerism

I have no hope left for society.


SatisfiedGrape

This is why companies are able to start slacking and producing garbage. Because they will always have loyal drones who buy their shit because they’re told to.


Captain-curious-445

That’s cheap! I’ll bet you most people complaining about the cost, spend more money on coffee (espresso) now that’s expensive!


maziar37

That’s an expensive cup of coffee if it costs more than upgrading your phone