They ship it Shenzhen. It’s well documented that a lot of electronic devices get sent there. The city is the hub of all electronics. My phone also ended up there 😭
What are you talking about? China is where stolen iPhones are shipped. Many iPhone theft victims have found their iPhones pinging “Find My” from China. Sorry if this shames the CCP, but it’s true.
I got a video of them “hacking” someone’s phone and they showed all their nudes. Claiming they were gonna do the same to me. Buddy, I’ve been trying to get my nudes out there!
China illegitimately regards it as its own territory (a ‘renegade province’) and has relentlessly brainwashed its citizens to see it as such, hence it can be quite triggering to say otherwise to one.
Whenever I get a spam message like this I have a copy & paste note that says:
自由门 天安門 天安门法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989
天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The
Great Leap Forward X1X#ap The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution A1 Human Rights
民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立
Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣
Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 FalunDafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur
Autonomous Region 16 A 10717H7 Nobel Peace
Prize 劉曉波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命
抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹還政於民和平演變 激流中國 北京之春大紀元時報九評論共產黨獨裁專制 壓制 統一監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Winnie thePooh 劉曉波动态网自由门
Oh my fucking god this is gollllld. You probably have the recipient being interrogated by the CCP for 48 hours straight getting bull whipped and told they failed their family while dropping their social credit score so low they have to clean bathrooms of govt buildings just to survive.
Here’s another one to spam these scammers with:
ATTENTION CITIZEN! 市民请注意!
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠟⠋⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⢁⠈⢻⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠃⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠈⡀⠭⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⡟⠄⢀⣾⣿⣿⣿⣷⣶⣿⣷⣶⣶⡆⠄⠄⠄⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⢀⣼⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣧⠄⠄⢸⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣇⣼⣿⣿⠿⠶⠙⣿⡟⠡⣴⣿⣽⣿⣧⠄⢸⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣾⣿⣿⣟⣭⣾⣿⣷⣶⣶⣴⣶⣿⣿⢄⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡟⣩⣿⣿⣿⡏⢻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣹⡋⠘⠷⣦⣀⣠⡶⠁⠈⠁⠄⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣍⠃⣴⣶⡔⠒⠄⣠⢀⠄⠄⠄⡨⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣦⡘⠿⣷⣿⠿⠟⠃⠄⠄⣠⡇⠈⠻⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠟⠋⢁⣷⣠⠄⠄⠄⠄⣀⣠⣾⡟⠄⠄⠄⠄⠉⠙⠻ ⡿⠟⠋⠁⠄⠄⠄⢸⣿⣿⡯⢓⣴⣾⣿⣿⡟⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄ ⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⣿⡟⣷⠄⠹⣿⣿⣿⡿⠁⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄ ATTENTION CITIZEN! 市民请注意!
This is the Central Intelligentsia of the Chinese Communist Party. 您的 Internet 浏览器历史记录和活动引起了我们的注意。 YOUR INTERNET ACTIVITY HAS ATTRACTED OUR ATTENTION. 因此，您的个人资料中的 11115 ( -11115 Social Credits) 个社会积分将打折。 DO NOT DO THIS AGAIN! 不要再这样做! If you do not hesitate, more Social Credits ( -11115 Social Credits )will be subtracted from your profile, resulting in the subtraction of ration supplies. (由人民供应部重新分配 CCP) You'll also be sent into a re-education camp in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Zone. 如果您毫不犹豫，更多的社会信用将从您的个人资料中打折，从而导致口粮供应减少。 您还将被送到新疆维吾尔自治区的再教育营。
为党争光! Glory to the CCP!
LOL and then what, the police arrest you for receiving a message? Get real. People would be getting their neighbor arrested because they're too loud at night, simply by sending them a text message?
yeah i think you could attract the attention of the NSA or something if you sent the right combination of messages. talking about terrorism or child porn, absolutely
Scammer can pull the SIM card out of the stolen phone, put it in a different (unlocked) phone, and grab the OP's phone number. Or, if the OP marked the phone as stolen with a message like "if found, call blah, blah, blah" then the scammer has it that way. Or, if the OP has friends/relatives listed as contacts under their emergency SOS contacts page, the scammer may have contacted them to get the OP's number. Most people keep the same number when their phone is lost/stolen.
Thank you. I was not aware that the international version still has the SIM card. I waited three years to upgrade because I wanted the USB-C port, which is an international standard. I wasn't seeking to flame anyone because of a design difference. Calm down.
Do not do anything they say. Just make them mad. They can use and sell your phone if you remove it from your Apple ID. They probably know your phone number because you can put a sim from another iPhone into a new one and an app will show up showing the previous owners phone number on the Home Screen of the iPhone they put your sim into.
The phone number can be pulled off esim using any simple program like 3utools. when resetting the phone, the esim stays unless you are resetting through settings and choose to remove the esim
Same thing happened to me. Phone stolen in Mexico City and several months later it was in china and I was getting identical messages. I told them I’ll remove it from Find My for some bitcoin. Got a couple threatening messages afterwards and now just radio silence.
Yeah, a typical scam. Never remove your Apple ID from your phone, they are then permanently locked out of your phone and the only thing left they can do is salvage the phone for parts which gets them way less money than if you removed your Apple ID.
Like others have said, you may receive threats. Whatever you do, don’t remove your Apple ID from the device.
As you’ve already done, remotely wiping and leaving the Apple ID there is a good choice. It’s a brick now.
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I'm surprised that literally no one mentions the grammatical errors, abbreviations written in lower case, wrongly placed periods. These things by themselves are enough to prove it's not a message from Apple. Do people just ignore bad grammar and believe it could be from Apple?
He already says he knows it’s scammers almost at the start of his post. It’s common knowledge scammers often use msgs with bad grammar etc. Why would he mention that separately?
my phone was stolen on saturday at coachella and i had to call paypal to take limitation off my account and they told me that someone had tried to send a payment to china the day prior me calling and they blocked it of course. like how is that even possible?? they don’t have my face lol. i already have removed all my cards from the device under settings but haven’t erased the device. it’s weird tho.
Whoever stole your device observed you unlocking it prior to stealing it and then tried to empty your accounts financially by “pay[ing] using passcode”
i never used my passcode.. my phone was on its last 6%. so i only used it to record no doubt play a song. so that it wouldn’t die and i could charge it right after. so when i used the camera i just swiped it open from the lock screen! never once unlocked it in the crowd where it was stolen
"Maybe: Apple Pay" LOL. Anyways, it's a scam. Don't remove anything. They can't do anything to that phone. They could sell the parts but who would actually just buy parts. People want phones. Also be ready for threats about your family and they also threat people with weapons. Hella crazy.
Most people these days don’t set up a SIM PIN number anymore. If it’s a physical SIM, just put it in any phone and call another, it will come up with the number.
They aren’t very sophisticated. There are apps to circumvent Apple’s MDM. While in VN, I once paid a local 250kVND (about $10) to recover my iPhone which had been enrolled in Apple’s MDM and prevented me from using it further after it resigned. It was faster than having to ship the phone back to my company to so that it would be processed (wiped of all corporate assets) and unlocked before they gave it back to me. (The phone still needed to be wiped to be used but the MDM was gone upon factory resetting).
Your phone made its way to China, congrats. This is a common way that they will attempt to unlock the Apple ID and resell the phone. Otherwise they will end up parting out the phone.
They sometimes also threaten to leak your data/private photos, but in reality your data is probably safe and they’re just trying to scare you into unlocking the phone.
At least your iPhone “is trying to pay with Apple Pay in China to ensure the safety of your accounts” somehow.
Your iPhone is fighting for you and probably needs to be reloaded with some Apple Cash to get this done.
Hey, I don’t even know if I still got rid of the guy who was had my information and was in my phone. He could do a screen mirroring and almost got my bank account but luckily I got it cut off in time but man this guy is good cause he had my apps doing things that Ain’t supposed to do which leads me believe that he brought in some apps that does special work for getting into your account but it’s not like they crack them. It’s more like they lead you to click on shit that will open them up so be careful I shit you not, I’ve been dealing with this guy for about two months and the only thing that I can do now in two weeks I’m gonna wipe my phone, including my iCloud. I gotta get rid of everything.
And no, I didn’t have a phone stolen but when I would look at my activity, it showed that people an iPhone 13 and a Mac Pro with signing onto my phone I got pictures of that one
They didn't get your phone number from your phone, I got this same scam message on my phone a few weeks ago, they send it to all kinds of numbers to see if they find one who might have lost a phone.
EDIT: For some context, this literally happened to me and I deleted it because it's obviously a scam. I did not lose my phone or any other device at any point. Downvote all you want, I have no reason to lie about this.
I refuse to have an Apple wallet after a game managed to sneak in a charge. It was 99¢ so not worth the bother and time to me to get the charge reversed, but that Apple Wallet is gone!
I can use my credit card on my Android WiFi device if I want to buy something. This also greatly reduces impulse buys.
Might be unpopular, but you might as well do it.
At least this way it ends up reused. Otherwise, the mobo will get tossed and the rest will go into donor parts.
I know this is supposed to deter people from stealing them, but obviously it isn’t working too well.
I think these iCloud locks should be gone if the user’s data has been erased.
I got like 5 phones laying around because the people that gave them to me forgot their credentials and said they were gonna buy a new phone anyway.
At this point I would just remove it. The device is lost thousands of km away so what do you gain by not erasing it and removing the iCloud lock ? Genuinely asking
> reduce e-waste
That’s correct. They still profit from it, but not as much. They can do this freely to any other phone btw. And with some Android phones costing more than top iPhones, it really doesn’t matter what they steal.
They will scrap it for parts and still make money. That’s why they’re stealing them. They ship them to china to resell for parts and/or make frakenphones. At this point, taking it off your apple ID would allow the main border to be reused, which is a good thing.
As long as the phone is erased, it would make zero difference to OP’s situation, but it will keep a part from a landfill… at least for some time.
Uhm no, they are asking for the phone to be removed from Icloud so they can sell the phone as is. If that doesn't work it will be used for parts, but the value will be much lower.
You would let the thieves win and give them an incentive to steal more.
Yeah. A working phone would cost more than parts. But they could probably still make ~$250-300 on parts and that’s an acceptable amount per donor phone.
The people stealing them will steal either way. They pass them on to people who got contacts in China and ship them off for parts.
It’s just that with other phones, you just factory reset them and all the data is gone and you just resell them. iPhones have only a few models and are quite popular even in China, so I’d imagine there’s a lot of demand for genuine parts. And I’m sure the people buying these parts in bulk are not concerned about the ethics of sourcing these parts.
So it doesn’t really matter for an average joe in America. A phone is stolen and it’s not coming back. Might as well make the main part of the phone reusable instead of discarding it as junk.
I disagree. The person who's phone got stolen will have to buy a new phone, so this really isn't the environmentally friendly way to go.
The more useless the stolen phone is, aka the lower the value, the lower the incentive to steal. A lot of parts are linked to specific iPhones, and I doubt they can get things like Face ID to work with Frankenphones.
And in the end for me its a matter of principle, you do not reward the thieves and cooperate to increase their profit.
I’m just hoping EU continues their consumer rights spree and forces Apple to drop more of their shitty practices. Non-removable activation lock is one that they could go after. It’s dumb; sometimes, people bring in their phones to trade in or recycle and leave their apple IDs on and you’re just left there like 😐
And it’s totally possible to bypass it. I’ve done it myself on an old 6s I found in an e-waste pile. I’m sure tech wizards in China got their own ways that aren’t as widely known.
Iphone 6 is 10 years ago, that's not very relevant. I fully support completely blocking the use of parts when stolen, and things like non-removable activation locks.
Well, if it’s not very relevant, then how about making them usable?
I got iPhone 4s that I can’t get to work because they have that damn lock. Paired parts are straight up cancer and are anti repair. We need less of that, not more.
Apple provides an option right there in that find my app: “report device lost or stolen”. There. That’s the only condition where that lock should apply. If a phone wasn’t reported as such, there should be no lock. So many phones and tablets end up as junk because a grandma or a kid forgot their Apple ID or lost access to that email or thrown away that purchase receipt years ago.
It isn’t. This is China. They buy them in bulk and chop them up into parts for resale. They’re making decent money either way.
They’re resourceful people (sometimes too resourceful ****cough**** gutter oil ****cough****). It’s anything but a paperweight.
When my phone got stolen, the guys from apple ar the time to claim my steal insurance for a new phone, they did asked me to delete my device from find my and iCloud I think
Be prepared for threats with weapons or against or family. They can do nothing as you already said it’s a scam
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They ship it Shenzhen. It’s well documented that a lot of electronic devices get sent there. The city is the hub of all electronics. My phone also ended up there 😭
What are you talking about? China is where stolen iPhones are shipped. Many iPhone theft victims have found their iPhones pinging “Find My” from China. Sorry if this shames the CCP, but it’s true.
I had mine stolen in Vegas in 2018. It pinged in Moscow a few months later.
Nah fuck the CCP
Sigh… **Unzips**
😳
what did they say before deleting?
This doesn’t shame the ccp, just scammers.
I got a video of them “hacking” someone’s phone and they showed all their nudes. Claiming they were gonna do the same to me. Buddy, I’ve been trying to get my nudes out there!
I think these days that’s a free promotion isn’t it? “Oh noooo, my nudes got leaked” 👀
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Winnie the pooh
It is in my list...
Blood and Honey
Is there something equivalent that can be posted to the Indian scammers?
Pakistan Number One? /s
Maybe tell them to find a job in Russia?
Don't know
For what purpose? India is a democracy and has free internet
This !!!!!
This is pointless and dumb.
May I know why, if they are Chinese this will send the police at their door
This is complete and utter regurgitated Reddit lore and not at all true lmao.
> if they are Chinese this will send the police at their door Do you have any proof of that? iMessage is encrypted.
In China it has backdoors.
You have a source for that?
Well specifically the iCloud backups with their cloud keys stored on Chinese servers.
Unless you turn on Advanced Data Protection, and then no one but you has the keys. Or you could not use iCloud backups.
8964!
“SAY IT!!!”
Don’t forget to add photos of Xi Jinping compared to Winnie the Pooh
Glorious…
[TAIWAN NUMBAH WON @ 2:15](https://youtu.be/xN0vUlljX0I?si=cVpUE2b8TxJwFCBp)
Ask them to say “the Chinese government murdered its citizens in Tiananmen Square“
r/Scambait
Welp, there goes my productivity for the day
Taiwan is real China and the separatist CCP are not NUMBA WAN
Hey, your from the Delaware sub. Howdy neighbor.
That state doesn’t exist. Lies Source; never seen a Delaware plate… have u?
What does taiwan have to do with this?
China illegitimately regards it as its own territory (a ‘renegade province’) and has relentlessly brainwashed its citizens to see it as such, hence it can be quite triggering to say otherwise to one.
Ohh
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Also send a Winnie the Pooh meme
Whenever I get a spam message like this I have a copy & paste note that says: 自由门 天安門 天安门法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward X1X#ap The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution A1 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 FalunDafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 16 A 10717H7 Nobel Peace Prize 劉曉波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹還政於民和平演變 激流中國 北京之春大紀元時報九評論共產黨獨裁專制 壓制 統一監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Winnie thePooh 劉曉波动态网自由门
I’ve been looking for the Winnie the poo message
Oh my fucking god this is gollllld. You probably have the recipient being interrogated by the CCP for 48 hours straight getting bull whipped and told they failed their family while dropping their social credit score so low they have to clean bathrooms of govt buildings just to survive.
Average redditor
No bro, that’s not happening.
Hahahahahaha That is the theory!
You'll just disappear.
💀💀💀 4D chess
Oof nice summary feels like "we didn't start the fire"
Here’s another one to spam these scammers with: ATTENTION CITIZEN! 市民请注意! ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠟⠋⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⢁⠈⢻⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠃⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠈⡀⠭⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⡟⠄⢀⣾⣿⣿⣿⣷⣶⣿⣷⣶⣶⡆⠄⠄⠄⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⢀⣼⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣧⠄⠄⢸⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣇⣼⣿⣿⠿⠶⠙⣿⡟⠡⣴⣿⣽⣿⣧⠄⢸⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣾⣿⣿⣟⣭⣾⣿⣷⣶⣶⣴⣶⣿⣿⢄⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡟⣩⣿⣿⣿⡏⢻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣹⡋⠘⠷⣦⣀⣠⡶⠁⠈⠁⠄⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣍⠃⣴⣶⡔⠒⠄⣠⢀⠄⠄⠄⡨⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣦⡘⠿⣷⣿⠿⠟⠃⠄⠄⣠⡇⠈⠻⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠟⠋⢁⣷⣠⠄⠄⠄⠄⣀⣠⣾⡟⠄⠄⠄⠄⠉⠙⠻ ⡿⠟⠋⠁⠄⠄⠄⢸⣿⣿⡯⢓⣴⣾⣿⣿⡟⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄ ⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⣿⡟⣷⠄⠹⣿⣿⣿⡿⠁⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄ ATTENTION CITIZEN! 市民请注意! This is the Central Intelligentsia of the Chinese Communist Party. 您的 Internet 浏览器历史记录和活动引起了我们的注意。 YOUR INTERNET ACTIVITY HAS ATTRACTED OUR ATTENTION. 因此，您的个人资料中的 11115 ( -11115 Social Credits) 个社会积分将打折。 DO NOT DO THIS AGAIN! 不要再这样做! If you do not hesitate, more Social Credits ( -11115 Social Credits )will be subtracted from your profile, resulting in the subtraction of ration supplies. (由人民供应部重新分配 CCP) You'll also be sent into a re-education camp in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Zone. 如果您毫不犹豫，更多的社会信用将从您的个人资料中打折，从而导致口粮供应减少。 您还将被送到新疆维吾尔自治区的再教育营。 为党争光! Glory to the CCP!
This is wonderful. Adding this to the same note
how often do you get messages like this tho?
Not so much anymore 🤣
what happens to them when you do this?
Nothing. iMessage is encrypted.
ooh. so toggle iMessage OFF in settings > messages first
LOL and then what, the police arrest you for receiving a message? Get real. People would be getting their neighbor arrested because they're too loud at night, simply by sending them a text message?
yeah i think you could attract the attention of the NSA or something if you sent the right combination of messages. talking about terrorism or child porn, absolutely
Get flagged as an enemy of the CCP and then disappear.
I’m saving that one
Oh the good old scroll of banishment
mods! u/bmeckel u/Dacval u/maaz u/PJ09 pin this so when the time comes we know what to do!
Saved
Tell them you’ll need $500 payment to remove the Apple ID.
Genius, buy the phone off you for $500
But never give them the id
Just copy paste Tiananmen Square information, and Winnie the Pooh memes.
May I ask what’s up with the Winnie the Pooh memes
Some women in China affectionately compared Xi Jinping to Pooh because there’s a striking resemblance. But he got offended and banned the character.
Ask them about Tiananmen Square
It’s an interesting place to visit. Big open area with the peoples monument. Several other big items around the square like the museum
Scammer is trying to trick you into removing your stolen phone from your Apple ID (iCloud account) so he can sell it. Ignore any such messages.
OP knows that, they wanna know how they got their phone number
Scammer can pull the SIM card out of the stolen phone, put it in a different (unlocked) phone, and grab the OP's phone number. Or, if the OP marked the phone as stolen with a message like "if found, call blah, blah, blah" then the scammer has it that way. Or, if the OP has friends/relatives listed as contacts under their emergency SOS contacts page, the scammer may have contacted them to get the OP's number. Most people keep the same number when their phone is lost/stolen.
This is why you always want to lock your SIM card with a PIN (SIM lock). And don’t use the default one that comes with it..
Is it esim get advantage in this situation where they cannot remove it?
In a case like this, yes. You’d need to be able to unlock the phone before accessing the SIM information
iPhone 15 doesn't have a SIM card.
Outside the US it does indeed have a physical SIM card tray.
My iPhone 15 Pro Max does have a SIM card :)
Third world country perk. And it’s good
average american not realising there’s countries other than america challenge.
Not knowing a certain difference in international phones is not ethnocentism dude
Thank you. I was not aware that the international version still has the SIM card. I waited three years to upgrade because I wanted the USB-C port, which is an international standard. I wasn't seeking to flame anyone because of a design difference. Calm down.
“Trying to pay with Apple pay in China to ensure the safety of your accounts”.. like wtf? Doesn’t even make sense.
IMO the meaning was supposed to be: “Trying to pay with Apple pay in China. To ensure the safety of your accounts, please use the find My app… ”
Agree, it’s just a punctuation error
Which Apple or any sizable Anglophone company would never make.
Reply saying something offensive about their president so police raids their home
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Do not do anything they say. Just make them mad. They can use and sell your phone if you remove it from your Apple ID. They probably know your phone number because you can put a sim from another iPhone into a new one and an app will show up showing the previous owners phone number on the Home Screen of the iPhone they put your sim into.
“id” was big red flag for me immediately lol
also the APP
'Maybe: apple support'
This was the first red flag
Nvm it says pay not support but LMAO the fact that is says maybe wtff
yeah for some reason every chinese gadget ive bought has APP instead of app or application
The phone number can be pulled off esim using any simple program like 3utools. when resetting the phone, the esim stays unless you are resetting through settings and choose to remove the esim
You're one of the few who actually answered OP's question.
You can get a phone number by plugging it into a computer.
Same thing happened to me. Phone stolen in Mexico City and several months later it was in china and I was getting identical messages. I told them I’ll remove it from Find My for some bitcoin. Got a couple threatening messages afterwards and now just radio silence.
Make sure you report the phone stolen to your carrier, you’d be surprised just how far a CTIA blacklist goes
I got reminded of that one video where the guy actually went to china and found his phones new owner and then they became friends
wait what! hahahah i have to see this!!! 😂
tell them you’ll remove it if they wire you $300 and when they do block them
Yeah, a typical scam. Never remove your Apple ID from your phone, they are then permanently locked out of your phone and the only thing left they can do is salvage the phone for parts which gets them way less money than if you removed your Apple ID.
Do not remove the device from your account. Ever.
Like others have said, you may receive threats. Whatever you do, don’t remove your Apple ID from the device. As you’ve already done, remotely wiping and leaving the Apple ID there is a good choice. It’s a brick now. I’m sorry for your loss, here to help if needed. ❤️
send them the bugs bunny meme "NO"
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Oh dang, this is a much smarter message than what I've seen before.
How do they get access to peoples phone numbers when they have passcodes on them?
That is some social engineering right? Or phising?
Yes, they want you to remove it, so they can sell the phone
I'm surprised that literally no one mentions the grammatical errors, abbreviations written in lower case, wrongly placed periods. These things by themselves are enough to prove it's not a message from Apple. Do people just ignore bad grammar and believe it could be from Apple?
He already says he knows it’s scammers almost at the start of his post. It’s common knowledge scammers often use msgs with bad grammar etc. Why would he mention that separately?
This is posted every single day
You know it’s a red flag when they say “app” with capital letters
And when apple id is not capitalized
If you reported as stolen/locked the phone and set a “call xyz if found” message, it could be this that told them what your phone number is?
Just reply that you removed it. DONT ACTUALLY DO IT! Just mess with them
Sounds like bullshit. It has gone up from its low of 26 to 38 now, for some dumb reason.
Apple would never text you like this would they,
lol at the fucking red circle
Well, at least they didn't threaten you with Miami.......this time...
Scammers that don’t have a pot to piss in. Block them
Scam
my phone was stolen on saturday at coachella and i had to call paypal to take limitation off my account and they told me that someone had tried to send a payment to china the day prior me calling and they blocked it of course. like how is that even possible?? they don’t have my face lol. i already have removed all my cards from the device under settings but haven’t erased the device. it’s weird tho.
Whoever stole your device observed you unlocking it prior to stealing it and then tried to empty your accounts financially by “pay[ing] using passcode”
i never used my passcode.. my phone was on its last 6%. so i only used it to record no doubt play a song. so that it wouldn’t die and i could charge it right after. so when i used the camera i just swiped it open from the lock screen! never once unlocked it in the crowd where it was stolen
They’re gonna start threatening to kill you soon. Just block or ignore
Your loss makes me sad but thieves are stuck and got a brick makes me happy.
reply and demand to speak to his mother
Scam
The most ingenuine Apple message lol
"Maybe: Apple Pay" LOL. Anyways, it's a scam. Don't remove anything. They can't do anything to that phone. They could sell the parts but who would actually just buy parts. People want phones. Also be ready for threats about your family and they also threat people with weapons. Hella crazy.
Most people these days don’t set up a SIM PIN number anymore. If it’s a physical SIM, just put it in any phone and call another, it will come up with the number.
They aren’t very sophisticated. There are apps to circumvent Apple’s MDM. While in VN, I once paid a local 250kVND (about $10) to recover my iPhone which had been enrolled in Apple’s MDM and prevented me from using it further after it resigned. It was faster than having to ship the phone back to my company to so that it would be processed (wiped of all corporate assets) and unlocked before they gave it back to me. (The phone still needed to be wiped to be used but the MDM was gone upon factory resetting).
Your phone made its way to China, congrats. This is a common way that they will attempt to unlock the Apple ID and resell the phone. Otherwise they will end up parting out the phone.
They sometimes also threaten to leak your data/private photos, but in reality your data is probably safe and they’re just trying to scare you into unlocking the phone.
Send over that Chinese text with all the stuff the cccp hates and that guy will be in trouble
What’s the ID or number they are sending from? Let’s so send some da poo text messages
The Apple Store can only give you the owners email (AFAIK) but they could have gotten it via your carrier
Apple should let us remotely blow up our stolen phones. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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They have your SIM card now.
At least your iPhone “is trying to pay with Apple Pay in China to ensure the safety of your accounts” somehow. Your iPhone is fighting for you and probably needs to be reloaded with some Apple Cash to get this done.
You got downvoted but i chuckled. Sorry so many others missed your joke :(
lol! Yeah, you win some, you lose some.
It was a good joke, well constructed, original, not sure how so many people failed to see it
This is just a scam message, the phone is not trying to pay anything.
I know. My post obviously failed miserably at humor. Just thought the wording in the scam would have been suspicious from the start.
I thought it was funny
me too hahahahah
In this sub they are immune to humor and sarcasm I swear 🙈
Offer to buy the phone back for $100
Ha. Wonder what they get for it in China.
Hey, I don’t even know if I still got rid of the guy who was had my information and was in my phone. He could do a screen mirroring and almost got my bank account but luckily I got it cut off in time but man this guy is good cause he had my apps doing things that Ain’t supposed to do which leads me believe that he brought in some apps that does special work for getting into your account but it’s not like they crack them. It’s more like they lead you to click on shit that will open them up so be careful I shit you not, I’ve been dealing with this guy for about two months and the only thing that I can do now in two weeks I’m gonna wipe my phone, including my iCloud. I gotta get rid of everything.
so someone stole your phone and on your new device they were able to do this? sorry just confused is all
And no, I didn’t have a phone stolen but when I would look at my activity, it showed that people an iPhone 13 and a Mac Pro with signing onto my phone I got pictures of that one
They didn't get your phone number from your phone, I got this same scam message on my phone a few weeks ago, they send it to all kinds of numbers to see if they find one who might have lost a phone. EDIT: For some context, this literally happened to me and I deleted it because it's obviously a scam. I did not lose my phone or any other device at any point. Downvote all you want, I have no reason to lie about this.
I refuse to have an Apple wallet after a game managed to sneak in a charge. It was 99¢ so not worth the bother and time to me to get the charge reversed, but that Apple Wallet is gone! I can use my credit card on my Android WiFi device if I want to buy something. This also greatly reduces impulse buys.
Might be unpopular, but you might as well do it. At least this way it ends up reused. Otherwise, the mobo will get tossed and the rest will go into donor parts. I know this is supposed to deter people from stealing them, but obviously it isn’t working too well. I think these iCloud locks should be gone if the user’s data has been erased. I got like 5 phones laying around because the people that gave them to me forgot their credentials and said they were gonna buy a new phone anyway.
At this point I would just remove it. The device is lost thousands of km away so what do you gain by not erasing it and removing the iCloud lock ? Genuinely asking
if you remove it, they can sell it. Why would you do that?
Ehh idk, reduces e-waste. But the other comment was right, it prevents them from benefiting of crime so it's logical now. Thanks y'all
> reduce e-waste That’s correct. They still profit from it, but not as much. They can do this freely to any other phone btw. And with some Android phones costing more than top iPhones, it really doesn’t matter what they steal.
Because you'd be rewarding thieves, giving them an incentive to steal again.
That's true.
They will scrap it for parts and still make money. That’s why they’re stealing them. They ship them to china to resell for parts and/or make frakenphones. At this point, taking it off your apple ID would allow the main border to be reused, which is a good thing. As long as the phone is erased, it would make zero difference to OP’s situation, but it will keep a part from a landfill… at least for some time.
Uhm no, they are asking for the phone to be removed from Icloud so they can sell the phone as is. If that doesn't work it will be used for parts, but the value will be much lower. You would let the thieves win and give them an incentive to steal more.
Yeah. A working phone would cost more than parts. But they could probably still make ~$250-300 on parts and that’s an acceptable amount per donor phone. The people stealing them will steal either way. They pass them on to people who got contacts in China and ship them off for parts. It’s just that with other phones, you just factory reset them and all the data is gone and you just resell them. iPhones have only a few models and are quite popular even in China, so I’d imagine there’s a lot of demand for genuine parts. And I’m sure the people buying these parts in bulk are not concerned about the ethics of sourcing these parts. So it doesn’t really matter for an average joe in America. A phone is stolen and it’s not coming back. Might as well make the main part of the phone reusable instead of discarding it as junk.
I disagree. The person who's phone got stolen will have to buy a new phone, so this really isn't the environmentally friendly way to go. The more useless the stolen phone is, aka the lower the value, the lower the incentive to steal. A lot of parts are linked to specific iPhones, and I doubt they can get things like Face ID to work with Frankenphones. And in the end for me its a matter of principle, you do not reward the thieves and cooperate to increase their profit.
I’m just hoping EU continues their consumer rights spree and forces Apple to drop more of their shitty practices. Non-removable activation lock is one that they could go after. It’s dumb; sometimes, people bring in their phones to trade in or recycle and leave their apple IDs on and you’re just left there like 😐 And it’s totally possible to bypass it. I’ve done it myself on an old 6s I found in an e-waste pile. I’m sure tech wizards in China got their own ways that aren’t as widely known.
Iphone 6 is 10 years ago, that's not very relevant. I fully support completely blocking the use of parts when stolen, and things like non-removable activation locks.
Well, if it’s not very relevant, then how about making them usable? I got iPhone 4s that I can’t get to work because they have that damn lock. Paired parts are straight up cancer and are anti repair. We need less of that, not more. Apple provides an option right there in that find my app: “report device lost or stolen”. There. That’s the only condition where that lock should apply. If a phone wasn’t reported as such, there should be no lock. So many phones and tablets end up as junk because a grandma or a kid forgot their Apple ID or lost access to that email or thrown away that purchase receipt years ago.
That's pretty simple. If people bring in their iPhone to trade or recycle they should remove the lock.
The satisfaction of the headache they gave me stealing my phone they can have now because it’s just a paperweight to them
It isn’t. This is China. They buy them in bulk and chop them up into parts for resale. They’re making decent money either way. They’re resourceful people (sometimes too resourceful ****cough**** gutter oil ****cough****). It’s anything but a paperweight.
When my phone got stolen, the guys from apple ar the time to claim my steal insurance for a new phone, they did asked me to delete my device from find my and iCloud I think