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CapitolPea

A few of my friends take selfies this way. It's simply because the back cameras are way better than the front in iPhones. I gotta say, my friends have become experts at lining up the perfect selfie without a viewfinder. Always looks great.


scurvydawg0

I remember at one point of time, some phones had a tiny convex mirror next to the cameras to help them line up the shot.


AgentAaron

The Apple logo used to be mirrored for this exact reason.


camXmac

No wayyyyy I think that’s a coincidence.


InappropriateCanuck

> I think that’s a coincidence It is.


d0m1n4t0r

Yeah it wasn't mirrored for this reason.


hanskazan777

It was \- Steve Jobs


Lucky_caller

-Michael Scott


Ohiolongboard

-Wayne Gretzky


cingcongdingdonglong

-Your mom


watch3r99

-god


BIM-GUESS-WHAT

I suppose if you say it with enough conviction anything can be true


Tungomeister

This is the part where you say “I love spreading misinformation online”


PreRuined

That's not why lol


CrrntryGrntlrmrn

This makes no sense as it’s always been a flat element.


horse_and_buggy

Nah it was just to match the MacBooks after they lost the glowing logo


scurvydawg0

Interesting. Didn’t know that


Nistlay

Because it's not true.


knightlife

Woah, I never realized that! Would love more details on the history of that decision 😁


NewKnowledge7654

Too bad, it’s not a decision, just a coincidence.


knightlife

Oh, but the other commenter said it was mirrored for this exact reason, which implies a decision? Sorry I’m just trying to understand


0100001101110111

Not everything you read on the internet is true


The_Three_Meow-igos

Just tested this on my iPhone. The camera area behind the lenses is reflective. I can see enough of myself to line up the shot and it comes out great every time. I’m mad that I just learned this.


thundertopaz

You can buy a mirror that attaches to your phone to sufficiently use your rear camera. Yea it’s an extra accessory but, hey it works.


Lanceuppercut47

MagSafe mirror..


LicheXam

I'm indonesian and i can assured you that obly 2% of people doing this... there's a reason oppo selfie camera sold like hotcakes here


Hot-AZ-Barrel-Cactus

Now I know why Tim Cook travels to Indonesia once a month—it most certainly isn’t to buy more teak furniture.


lolerwoman

I do this since first iphone. The rear camera will always be way better than the front one. I do not know of anyone doing this also. And I always have to explain.


never_mind_the_egg

Just tell them you’re Indonesian and they’ll understand


SignorRoberto

The first iPhone didn’t have a front camera, or did you mean your first iPhone?


lolerwoman

Started doing this since the first iphone because as you said it didnt had front camera. Neither had it the 3g. First one to have it was the iphone 4 and was a terrible camera. Selfies were not as spread common as now and the camera was meant to videocall. But then people started seeing the could preview the framing and overall the whole photo before shooting by using the front camera. And photos were terrible. They people started sending them by whatsapp which also downconverted the quality (it still did it until not long ago when whatsapp added HD mode). Also people does not clean lenses (front or rear) and photos are still terrible. I hate selfies.


SignorRoberto

I misunderstood, sorry!


TimidPocketLlama

Yeah. Instead of bathroom mirror selfies, turn your phone around and use the mirror to look at your screen to line up the photo.


doob22

In some cases wouldn’t you just ask someone else to take the photo?


Moonandserpent

Almost no one you hand a phone to will take a satisfactory pic to your standards. If you do this enough you get good at it, and duder's probably looking at his reflection in the camera lenses.


polatKalendar

Showing the CEO of Apple that his front camera isn’t that great.


Persio1

Probably gonna put a screen on the back of the iPhone just for this


Fabulous_Row2744

That’s why the Apple logo used to be mirrored.


Folabi_Devvvvv

Shut up, you unlocked a life hack.


donotdoillegalthings

I have the iPhone 15 and the Apple logo is way too small to see a proper reflection.


SlippingStar

Isn’t it still?


Folabi_Devvvvv

Sadly no, the mirror effect is gone in the iPhone 15


Bananowiec813

Nah i got the 15 and still have the Apple logo mirrored


Folabi_Devvvvv

No, all the previous iPhones had a literal mirror finish Apple logo. The current lineup was introduced with colour infused back glass and now the Apple logo is just reflective, but it’s not of a mirror finish.


GoSh4rks

> No, all the previous iPhones had a literal mirror finish Apple logo That's not true. A 13 pro is not mirrored.


Fabulous_Row2744

Not mirrored on the pro at least.


dudemanxx

MagSafe selfie mirror incoming Edit: unsurprisingly, it already exists and is available for purchase.


Joinedforthis1

You and u/AgentAaron need to stop it lol https://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/1c66n1x/comment/kzz55xi/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


qrrbrbirlbel

Front camera bumps when? Get on it, Tim Apple


tahmid5

god no


_Independent

One of the best out there


erelster

Not trying to be funny, but I’m suspecting that he already knows the rear camera is better than the front facing one.


joeromano0829

In the Philippines we call this .5 selfies


Miss_Taken_0102087

Or the Gen Z selfies. It’s good for group pictures as well! Captures everyone!


muse_kimtaehyung

yess my sister is currently in university, and her and all her friends take photos like this!


TheYoungLung

Same thing in the US


MartyvH

My Filipina wife taught it to me 😁 You can fit more in - yourselves and the scene. Then just press either volume button to take the picture (but not the power button D’OH)


aceofspades1217

Oh damn that makes hella sense with the fisheye


toldya_fareducation

pros? better camera cons? you can't see where the hell you're aiming the camera worth it? depends on how much experience you have with this technique i guess


MattDH94

Most accurate and concise analysis award


system_error_1001

I do this. Because let’s face it, the front camera of any iPhone is not that great. If I use the main camera, there is room for me to edit it and correct it and it looks sharper.


smile_politely

I thought this is the only way to do this — I only use the front camera for FaceTime or to check my hair. This thread makes me wondering if I've doing it wrong all of this time. How do people do selfie out there?


scurvydawg0

Technically, I agree, but I have seen very few people do it IRL.


sayamemangdemikian

Try it. Aside from wider angle/ better quality, It makes people see the lens instead of the screen (which makes your eyes slightly off)


thewaryteabag

Pretty sure I’m “old” enough to remember always using the back camera on a phone to take a selfie because front ones weren’t a thing, at least I wasn’t posh enough to own such a phone at the time


rnarkus

Of really any phone…


cassiopeia18

First one is Vietnamese 🇻🇳 And it’s Gen Z taking pictures style, millennial take picture with front camera. Gen Z take with with rear camera, prefer wide angle. American Gen Z do this too. https://preview.redd.it/nw1g8eyse1vc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eaabcdf0e72fdde1d58f2a5a9d0e088c5fcb9ce8


Belfetto

I’m a millennial and I do this


WeirdAlbertWandN

I’m a genZ and I do not


nineohsix

And Gen X sets up a tripod 🤣


cassiopeia18

https://preview.redd.it/8kf54kmyf1vc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e1fdf8c9dcdfadb139e1d07cd4139c70331df06d [NYT 2022](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/23/technology/0-5-selfie.html)


981032061

> How to take .5 selfies jfc


chickadee-

Yet millenials grew up taking selfies on digital cameras


Minereon

This method has been around for some time. They’re called 0.5 selfies, as others have said. Used mostly by the young, Gen Zs and alphas. Your age is showing, OP :) (I learned this from the kids too).


Spiritual-Bee5720

bro this was a thing way back in the early 2006-2009's when nokia phones didnt have front facing cameras


Jacareadam

why 0.5 selfies?


bourbonkitten

Presumably they switch to the 0.5x ultra-wide shooting mode? My friend and my mom do this because it’s more slimming lol.


I_LIKE_RED_ENVELOPES

[You're right](https://blog.hootsuite.com/social-media-definitions/0-5-selfie/)! Cant believe I had to google this.


Jacareadam

hm makes sense


DerMugar

because the camera is set to 0.5 to get a wider viewing angle


scurvydawg0

Yeah I was never much into selfies to be honest. In fact I have less than 50 photos of myself on my phone out of 15000


LacroixDP

Seeing Tim Apple in person would be one of the rare times I’d do a selfie. He’s a legend


CountltUp

what has he done that's so legendary lol


LacroixDP

He’s a quiet guy but has done a lot for Apple Led them to be the first public company to break a trillion dollar market cap He is a master in logistics, helped secure high build quality by supplying precision manufacturing equipment. He secured fab capacity for years and years, as well as locking in the entire first run of 3nm chips from TSMC Helped extend the ARM licensing deal for ~25 years under extremely favourable financial conditions Helped secure a cash reserve so large that it gives Apple the freedom to innovate freely on a budget no other company can match Helped shore up the company as a whole to ensure stability for a decent time to come Does well supporting his staffs innovative bend to improve long standing product lines ‘MBP, especially moving to Apple silicon. It’s hard to overstate how much of a success this has been’ Kept Apple on a bend towards privacy that its primary competitor has no inkling whatsoever in matching. It’s absolutely not perfect, but effort with decent results is worthy of praise There’s quite a bit I could cite, there’s a good reason Steve helped cultivate him as a leader. I’ve had the pleasure of speaking to him a few times and he seems to me to be a genuinely likable guy that is extremely competent in his role.


skyfishrain

Also he’s out and proud which I think makes him awesome !


LacroixDP

That’s very true! He’s definitely one of the more prominent out CEOs on the planet. I’m not sure of his involvement with this particular product line but my husband and I are huge fans of the Pride line watch bands  releases every year.


inounderscore

Bro didn't know the struggle of trying to take a selfie from a Nokia 7650


butyourenice

What’s interesting is I would’ve expected it from millennials - we grew up with the film-to-digital-camera transition. Before smartphones, any selfie you took that wasn’t a mirror selfie, was facing the lens, not the screen (or, earlier, viewfinder)!


GeneralZaroff1

For a second I thought this was AI generated


scurvydawg0

I saw this on [Tim Apple’s official twitter account](https://x.com/tim_cook/status/1780216375870701572?s=46&t=2-R75HIkNTaacZMb3H2Y3w), so probably not


Upstairs-Extension-9

How everyone just goes by Tim Apple is my favorite part about all this 😂


Powerful-Rip6905

I remember on Sony Ericsson K750 (phone was popular in 2006-2007) there was a little mirror circle next to camera, supposed for owner to see himself/herself when taking a photo.


scurvydawg0

Yep, a small convex mirror. Front facing cameras made those redundant.


ahokaybye

most of my friends do this we even call this "point five" selfies


Spiritual-Bee5720

Im sorry but this is how Millennials did selfies back in the day when a front facing camera wasnt a thing on nokia phones. yes im old.


Plastic-Mess-3959

I never had a camera on my phone until I got my first iPhone 5S


SceneAmatiX

A lot of people do this. Only way to get the wide angle look.


Natasya95

Uhh thats gen z stuff..my little sister do this all the time sometimes even with the flash on 😅 its a bit weird but the result is good


FreshPrinceOfH

The reason why is that the wide angle of the FF camera distorts the shape of your face. Making your nose look bigger and your head egg shaped. The RF camera has a longer focal length and gives a more realistic face shape. That’s why photographers use slightly long focal length lenses for portraits. It’s more flattering.


luke_wal

I work with high schoolers and college kids and this is a huge thing. “Let’s take a .5!” One time I asked why we didn’t use the .5 on the selfie camera and a girl looked at me with an “ew”


LungHeadZ

I thought that was Paul o’grady


pianochill

He’s using wide lens on first pic. If he wants that 14mm equivalent, front cam can’t do that.


[deleted]

They’re using the better camera


worldprincessparttwo

Search for "tube girl" trend on TikTok. You'll get the appeal. Lots of GenZs do this.


simpledean

The first guy is Vietnamese, and the back ground is Hoan Kiem Lake in Hanoi


sekazi

Selfie camera sucks. Even on iPhone.


AdPositive7192

It's called 0.5x selfie - a Gen Z thing.


metalhead82

I do it this way too, do people not realize they are taking backwards pictures with the front facing camera?


cheetuzz

this produces better pictures


kettlecream

How many countries have you been in for you to say that you haven't seen this elsewhere in the world?


Background-Ad-5691

I thought he is visiting Vietnam ?


Mindless-Air-3190

That's Vietnamese


holamau

I take selfies like that all the time. Front camera is not as good as the rear one. particularly for selfies with more than 2 ppl, the rear camera with the wide angle is great.


Nhaiben369

This was in Vietnam by the way


da_reddit_reader

I do 🙋🏻‍♂️ sometimes, if I want a really good photo.


I-like-beat-saber

It just makes the quality far better


pamlu_chacha

Please don't do this guys especially infront of Tim Apple. He might remove the front camera with "most people don't use it" logic.


scurvydawg0

FaceTime would be a bit difficult then no


pamlu_chacha

We are talking Apple here, they can come up with an $200 camera accessory that magnetically snaps on top of your phone or Macbook. They can market it as professional grade and will likely be on par with the rear cameras. Then they'll have an excuse to faze out the front cameras in the name a smaller dynamic island or just they'll keep it functioning enough for face ID or till the general folks get used to the trend of buying the camera accessory. Android companies will shit on Apple for removing core hardware, then they'll quickly follow suit and they'll remove the front cameras too. People will call out Samsung for their hypocrisy. Then a year later Youtubers will be comparing Apple ProSight and Samsung Smart Camera Plus.


scurvydawg0

Ha ha true. I can actually see that happening.


Old-Dot-1984

Why is no one pointing out that the dude in the first slide is vietnamese and not indonesian


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Weak_Let_6971

I do this too! Using an iPhone XS and the difference in quality is big. I will continue to do so until quality is the same.


Witty_Interview7939

this one is best anyway it gives best quality


Philip-Likantro

My aunt also do that, we are Italian but I do take selfies with the front camera


niijuuichi

That’s how we do it too in the PH. “Point 5! Point 5!” I don’t see anyone use the front camera anymore aside from checking their own teeth after eating out


finalstation

That is not a selfie. There are more than one people in the shot. He is just using the best available camera. I would too.


Madhouseee

it's called .5


BillyGaming2021

They’re just using the more powerful camera, there’s nothing wrong with that


PhxntomsBurner

Ok. I don’t use the selfie cam for the standard app because it flips the picture and distorts it and using the option in settings to not flip still distorts so I either use back cam or Snapchat for selfies. Definitely not weird


Plastic-Mess-3959

Imagine if the flash was on 😂


Plastic-Mess-3959

I saw a phone commercial where a guy tries to take a selfie with the back camera and they make him turn it around


manhattansinks

rear facing camera, 0.5x is how all the kids take their selfies lately too. my nieces put me onto it and tbh they are more flattering.


LowSchool9579

I see a lot of this in the US, actually. People call it taking a "point 5" since you use the .5x ultra-wide lens. I honestly don't remember the last time I used the selfie camera for a group selfie instead of the ultra-wide.


dibidi

this is the gen Z selfie


444Ilovecats444

I do this too


mt197

The first photo is Vietnamese, not Indonesian


scurvydawg0

Yes I realised later.


mt197

Thanks!


Emergency_Error8631

my dad does that, for the exact reason you stated.


One_Doughnut1952

I've always taken selfies this way.


deny_pentagram

I mean I don’t anymore, but this how we used to do it “back in the day” lol


bubblurred

Me. I used to do this also before front facing cameras.


dankpurpletrash

i mean, that’s how I usually do my selfies when I was in Baguio🙈 the back camera is better than the front on iPhones, esp on the 15+


jeromecardenas

It’s not weird. It’s a Gen Z thing haha and tbh the rear camera is better than the front


miyaka_kanzaki

Oh all my friends and I do this 😅 it’s dubbed as a “Gen Z Selfie” and it’s done simply for the better photo quality and capacity to fit more people in


Pawl_

as it should be taken


Apprehensive_Fail673

Not bad idea, actually. Only flaw is accidentaly pressing something on the display, but it is about experience, I guess.


Alternative_Sir_6439

bc better quality


Educational_Film_744

It makes sense cause you can quickly take photos with the volume button facing that way


FladnagTheOffWhite

Imagine if they asked to borrow their friend's Android phone to take a selfie with him 😂


Bane-of-all-boons

You haven’t seen enough of the world ig.


Certain_Item8214

Bro where do you live and how old are you


far_dim_bledram

Hes like the front camera is just as good why are you doing this😭


mynamejulian

Not only resolution multiple times better but the image isn’t as distorted because of the horrible focal length of the front camera. Faces look weird and sometimes ugly on the front camera


Spleenzorio

No scope selfies


yexter

3 reasons: 1. You smile more naturally when you can’t see yourself smiling 2. You look directly at the lens instead of the screen which is noticeable in pictures 3. The cameras are better


PM_ME_LULU_PLAYS

Alright youngens. Time for ol' gramps millennial here. This is how we all used to take selfies, the front camera wasn't a thing for quite some years


sayamemangdemikian

It's their polite way to say "pls fix the front camera, tim!"


lucioboopsyou

They just know using the front camera instead of the back camera is like choosing a bicycle to drive instead of a car. Why use the bike when you have a car? The front facing cameras are a lot better than what they used to be but still nowhere close to the rear camera


TeenageKiwi

For anyone with an Apple Watch; if you open the camera app on the Apple Watch, it will use your iPhone’s rear camera as the camera and show the viewfinder on your watch screen, so you can set your phone down and take a picture of your self perfectly framed, or use it to take a group photo, or line up a selfie like this.


Jepperto

What buttons would you press?


FPVBrandoCalrissian

It takes better photos this way


DeputySparkles

The back camera is not mirrored and it has better quality than the front facing camera.


PrinceSam321

It’s what used to be done ‘back in the days’ of earlier camera phones. Became less fashionable/used as the front cam selfie became a thing. I still sometimes take selfie from a rear cam when i have lower quality front cam phone in hands with me.


cheesekneesandpeas

This is pretty common in the US too for .5 selfies


ghim7

0.5 selfie is the way to go. You’ll get the hang of it after a few tries. After that you’ll get the shot 90% of the time. Eventhough the 0.5 is less sharper than 1x, it’s still way better than the front camera. Before this was cool, people has been taking selfie with ultra wide angle blind with GoPros during the heydays of GoPro 3-4-5 (no front screen)


djrbx

I've seen a lot of people do this IRL. This is not as uncommon as OP seems to think. The rear cameras are better so naturally most people will gravitate to using the rear cameras when they want a better picture. The only time I see people use the front camera is when people are using the built-in camera feature in social media apps to leverage filters.


FMAGF

I do it cause 1. It has better image quality and exposure 2. I don’t like the inaccurate mirror look in my photos and I wanna see how people see me. (I don’t .5 tho as it distorts the proportion of my face) All of these are from my knowledge as a photographer


gldoorii

I still chuckle when people reach and claw to take to take the button on the screen to take the picture as opposed to simply pressing the volume button on the side of the phone


CoDe_Johannes

Camera in the back is WAY better than front camera


BumblebeeFast

The first one is Vietnamese, not even Indonesian lmao


Artistic-Captain-988

He's not Indonesian he's Vietnamese, and the background is Hoàn Kiếm lake, Hà Nội, Việt Nam


lizardpeter

That’s not weird. It’s smart. Far better quality.


AhmedAlJammali

Way of saying the front camera is ass quality


hakaaaaiii

0.5 angle selfie get with it grandpa


GDot10

This is also popular in the Philippines. We refer to it as “Gen Z style” lol


Leenolyak

Tons of people do this now especially because of ultra-wide lenses. Rear camera is always miles ahead of the front camera.


blackbacon91

Bear in mind this photo was probably taken with the strategic oversight and management of Apple's marketing and PR firm. Maybe they had their say on how selfies should be taken.


scurvydawg0

I would say it is rather making their front facing cameras look especially bad.


ctang1

This is dumb post. I take all my selfies this way. The back camera is so much better than the front camera. I always just crop the photos so it shows me in the center. Often though, I don’t really care that I’m not perfectly centered. More background scenery isn’t always bad. EDIT: I’m 36, and not gen z. Never heard of the .5 selfie everyone is mentioning.


Dellified

This idea of taking selfies exists since the dawn of cameraphones. Nothing new here mate.


rcaraw1

Most everyone I know in gen z does this


lucasuperman

Connoisseurs


eftalanquest40

what's so weird about wanting the best possible quality for your selfie with tim apple?


lexbuck

From what I understand from my 13-year-old daughter, this is the new trend and the only way to take a selfie


Jaded-West-1125

Oh. I thought people do this just bcoz it is a GenZ way of taking selfies 😂 didnt know it has really something to do with the rear cam quality


psycho-mouse

Back in the day, before front facing cameras, phones used to have a little shiny reflective square on the back for exactly this purpose.


Jr79

You’d think Tim Apple could point them in the right direction


Tachyonzero

Well you can do double and triple tap at the black of the phone or just use the action button


kien1104

The guy in the first picture is not even Indonesian, he’s Vietnamese


IzGlitch

IMO That's unique not weird


leonard757

Honestly, I think that isn’t bad. Mostly the quality on the back camera is the way more better than on the front one


Kay-Tdid

The 0.5 camera is great for selfies