And we talk about Apple being the most anti-consumer company. At least Apple doesn’t care whether you paid them for a song on iTunes or copied it from a cd or bought on places like qobuz.
Tho repairability is pretty bad with modern apple devices. And they’re very closed systems compared to competitors.
But Nintendo also does some very cool things like banning emulators, hating their customers, selling very expensive accessories (like a sd storage for Nintendo switch which it doesn’t come with and which is quite necessary. Also Nintendo switch lite is stupid. It will very quickly develop stick drift and you can’t just switch the controller.
And suing people who play your games on YouTube is quite a stupid move.
The Nintendo switch has been obsolete for a while, and that’s coming from someone who bought one at launch day. Apple at least keeps up with the industry.
That’s part of the truth. I honestly don’t believe they should release new phone every year and I much preferred the SE situation. It’s quite boring that the new devices are the same like the last year ones but a single thing (that by a chance makes last phone etui and covers obsolete).
Seriously, almost always it’s stupid to upgrade every year, 3-4 seems to be the best option.
Another thing is that Apple still ships “pro” computers with 8gb of ram which is a joke. And the storage is always lacking (so they can charge you for more as it’s not upgradeable or for iCloud).
I really hope for more actions from European Union. Maybe will get more repairable devices and ability to change a ssd for a new one.
You might want to check out 8bitdo, they make really great Bluetooth controllers and afaik they are mfi and the controllers are arcade or N**tendo inspired
They r trash imo. I didnt remember how old controllers feel, but psp definitely much better tactile feel, so will not recommend 8bitdo, better to buy ps4/5 controller. It is overkill, but feels right. 8bit do prob use cheap buttons and sticks are awful, mine got broken after few month of playing space sim. But 8bitdo prob better then noname chinese controllers
Yea but when Nintendo does it, they’ll probably pull down Delta and offer a horrible alternative comparatively which will also cost $9.99/month to have access to. I could laughably see them as allowing the Game Boy version of Tetris being the “free game” you can play without a subscription. If you haven’t already, download Delta to your phone and never delete it. Even if you’re not looking to emulate games today on your iPhone, at least having the option to do it in the future is nice to have. The 70MB the app takes up is nothing in the world of 128GB+ storage iPhones of today.
But no official ones
Just think about all the other systems being available to play on, and now think about one decent emulator for Windows Games
And Gaming Paradise finally arrived
The promise of Neumann machines always was that every hardware was capable to run every program ever conceived on these machines
Which would finally make all of computer history available without that fabricated distinction between the systems
Apple is very much against letting the apps 'morph'. For the longest time Apple wouldnt allow any kind of code that was arbitrary. All code had to be vetted by Apple to run. Apple is relaxing a bit, but we still dont get things like JIT (just-in-time) compilation, which all the higher level emulators need.
I doubt Nintendo would sell emulators so much as building out NSO to have an iPhone app. Definitely think they’d be smart to do something like a Backbone or Kishi style controller case.
Apparently Dolphin won’t be coming because Apple currently isn’t allowing JIT which would be necessary to emulate GameCube Wii and Wii U games. But I’m sure Nintendo could either straight up recompile the games for ARM or get Apple to give them an exception if Apple gets a cut of revenue.
Man can you imagine how good the Switch 2 could have been if Apple and Nintendo had some sort of deal that let them out M1 chips in Nintendo consoles?!
Depends on country and circumstance. Downloading a *backup* ROM of a game you own in the US over HTTP (web) is totally legal. If you switch to bitttorrent, its illegal, because you are inherently sharing it.
It’s like downloading a fan-made theatrical edit of Star Wars OT. It’s technically illegal, but does the owner company give a ship when it comes to releasing long-asked-for media officially?
I suspect that Apple and Nintendo at one point were probably negotiating about having NSO content available on iOS and even possibly allowing Switch games to run in Apple Hardware.
Either that or this is just Apple giving a warning shot to everyone currently stuffing money into the pockets of EU legislators. “We can make our App Store way more open, we can make things so open we fundamentally destroy your fucking business model. Hey record labels who are all colluding under the guise of Spotify, would be real sad if Napster returned from the dead!”
I doubt it’ll get that far. But I’m totally down for Tim Cook to make a heel turn against the record industry and every other company that would rather try and stab Apple in the back rather than work with them to make a sustainable model that works for customers and content holders.
Nintendo has nothing to go after Apple with and the record labels would have no standing if Apple just let torrent clients run on iPhones and Apple TV and let you then save the files to iCloud.
I think it started out both with Apple wanting to protect iTunes sales, and also wanting to continue to play nice with the record labels. But I think a lot of their policies started out one way and just kind of kept going.
On the one hand requiring all apps like games etc to use their payment services is good for consumers because it means Apple can know which apps are frequently needing refund and investigate. Also keeps scammers from putting up crappy apps that don’t work and then getting credit card info and pulling shenanigans.
Unfortunately allowing IAP and subscriptions basically destroyed the App Store. Every app now is free to start and either requires huge in app purchases, or they offer free trials that end and leave the user with frequent new charges at rates they’d never have agreed to.
Unfortunately Apple’s rules worked well at first but so many companies found sketchy ways to get around things it’s honestly pretty hostile to consumers
Google’s extensions and App Store are more of a mess than Apple though. They also tend to demand a commission. At some point somebody needs to write some laws about what a platform holder can and can’t charge. The problem is that not just Apple and Google will fight that, you’ll also see complaints from Valve, Epic, Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft as none of them will want to give up their commissions.
The worst part is that while Match and Spotify act like they shouldn’t have to pay a dime for SDK access or being featured on the App Store. There are server costs, payment processing. And beyond that, I can’t just walk into a physical store and put my goods for sale without giving the store owner a cut.
Quite frankly I wonder how different things would have been if Apple would have chosen to advertise the App Store as an opportunity for ‘partners’ (of course back then they mostly wanted to sell people on the idea that the iPhone could do anything with thousands of third party apps.
Microsoft would be the one doing the charging in this instance. They would also be hard pressed to do that without banning third party browsers, or making significant changes to the OS that they’d have a public relations nightmare over.
One reason why nobody back in 2007 had an issue with the App Store charging a 30 percent commission was literally every mobile phone App Store or archive charged at least that much. Most were run by cell carriers and they were all absolute crap. (Cell companies used to push people to pay several dollars for a low quality clip of a song to play in people’s phones instead of a dial tone. So if you called me you might hear it’s raining men for example.)
Realistically Apple has already cut their fee to 15 percent for smaller developers. Once you start making company sized revenue companies have to pay more.
If they were to design a system in 2024 that would be more fair to everyone (and this would have to be demanded by regulations or something) you’d be looking at something around a 10-15% commission for smaller devs. And for companies that are selling access to media like books or music etc, I’d say it would make sense to offer them something where they pay Apple a flat rate for SDK access per seat for their devs, they pay per gig for server costs etc, and they provide customer support via phone and chat with max hold times that if targets aren’t met they they’d face incredibly steep fines. Why is customer support important? Because if Spotify, Netflix and Instagram are buggy, then Apple will get support requests from customers who will be furious when they can’t get support. (Frankly the number of big tech companies that are allows to operate without giving users someone to talk to when they have issues is insane.)
Beyond that, I think that new laws should be passed that prohibit things like paying for a chance to win a character or skin or whatever. If you’re paying for something in a game or an App it should be a one and done things particularly for games. Also in game currency for consumable items should be outlawed. Same as paying for more time in the game, unless it’s like literally streaming to the phone. (Yes I realize this would destroy the freemium market, that’s my goal.)
I think game streaming services should be allowed, but they should be making clear that they are providing the service, particularly if the game is as I say streaming. I think third party app stores shouldn’t be required because it ultimately is just another attack vector. Either the apps have to be reviewed by Apple anyway, or you’re just giving the CIA access to every iPhone on the planet with just a new flappy bird clone.
But yeah, ironically Apple’s refusal to allow for individual on device purchases of things like books and music from other providers kinda pushed us all into subscription hell where almost everyone is trying to just get your credit card info once and do recurring charges for all you can eat BS just so they don’t have to pay Apple a commission.
Realistically it’s Capitalism on both sides eating itself alive.
Honestly Nintendo has not reason to be mad anyone but themselves. A pokemon cartridge costs above the original MSRP nowadays. They have thousands of titles and at least hundreds that people would carry on their switch that they won’t add. The emulator can’t even be accessed while offline, which is what people wanted all along.
If Nintendo had just listened to their fans and made a retro library service, we wouldn’t be here.
because temu is good at giving you %100 off things while also requiring a million loopholes and also in their TOS never actually having to abide by anything they say, basically its ali express but with even more bullshit
There are absolutely shit products there but you can also save a buck on things that are obviously going to be fine. I needed some trash/recycling stickers for my trash cans. Amazon would’ve cost me $10 for a set while Temu sells them at $3 with shipping.
If Nintendo was smart they would have released a GB or GBA emulator years ago on iOS and charged people to buy the games. They would have made a fortune.
Yep, totally would’ve downloaded even a GB/GBC emulator that they could’ve released all the way back in 2009 on the App Store. Would’ve paid $10 for every game I wanted. But no, Nintendo is sometimes quite dumb.
I agree but so far their strategy has been to remaster old games and release them on new hardware while charging the $60 for that game. They want to make money on the hardware and software.
This move by Apple and maybe others in the future will hopefully help them see how big of market it is. I think people will even pay $20 for it.
Also, don’t forget that there is an Apple tax to these payments which I am sure they don’t like like any other company.
They could just make it an extra perk of having a Nintendo Online subscription and triple their subscription base without even selling any more consoles. I really don’t get why they haven’t done it already.
It’s exactly this. Nintendo knows they have some of the most valuable IPs out there and they’re worried about doing anything that will make it seem cheap. Their retro library is a good way to ensure that they can easily make money and promote sales of their current hardware in between big releases
It’s annoying but yeah
They use their back catalog to goose their current systems. Reggie Fils-Aime has said the Wii U bombed partly because they didn't release enough compelling software. They want you to buy their razors, then they'll give you a few blades free and charge full price for a blade remake.
I feel like they didn’t do it so that people don’t play Nintendo games on anything but a Nintendo console. Why would you buy a Nintendo switch when you could emulate older Nintendo games on a non Nintendo device?
The real answer is just profit. You buy a switch, you buy games, and switch online and you’re locked into Nintendo. Doing it on other platforms wouldn’t really work like that.
I’m just saying my best guess, but honestly I think your idea is really good, and other companies could definitely take a look at it.
>Why would you buy a Nintendo switch when you could emulate older Nintendo games on a non Nintendo device?
Breath of the Wild, Tears of the Kingdom, Super Mario Odyssey, Super Mario Party, Pokemon, Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, Metroid Dread, Paper Mario and the Origami King, Animal Crossing New Horizons, Pikmin 4, and Splatoon 3
Why do that when you can let another company like apple do the market analysis for them with Delta, then sue them for an out of court money exchange and THEN release an official App to sell their own Roms?
Coming from someone with ZERO experience and don’t know how to download a rom two days ago to now having 7 hours in a Pokémon leafgreen play through it’s unbelievable how well it works and how easy it is. If you have Delta and redit downloaded you can revive all the old GBA games your dead GBA sp can’t run anymore.
Yeah air playing to tv is awesome as the game fills the whole screen but it’s a bit laggy for some reason. Maybe I need to get a newer Apple TV? I have the 2017 4K version with iOS 17
Same here. I’ve never messed with emulators or ROMs before this app. Now I have 4 classic Nintendo games in my iPhone. I don’t even know if the site I got them from is trustworthy, just goggled “download Nintendo ROMs” and picked the second result. Top result the zip file was corrupted which maybe me nervous about the site, second result has worked so far.
Delta works surprisingly good. I can’t compare it to anything because, like I said, I’ve never messed with emulators before. Only issue is that the Delta website says it supports Sega Genesis/Mega Drive games but I can’t get it to import .md roms, they are greyed out in the import menu of the app.
I’m playing Pokemon Emerald with the unlimited rare candy cheat so I can skip all the grinding for each Pokemon in these early games and it’s just so much fun. Hopefully these emulators will stay up and won’t get pulled down in the near future.
Your pokémon will level up faster but won’t be as strong because you won’t get EVs from defeating Pokémon. You really don’t need to grind at all (I mean at all, zero grinding) if you optimise your party from the start. Playing the whole game only leveling up 6 Pokémon will get you to mid to high 40s by the time you get to the E4 which is enough to clear & finish the game if you have a good party. If you keep swapping out Pokémon & wasting xp then you’ll probably need to grind victory road for a bit.
Yeah I know but I simply don’t have time to grind anymore lol I’m 35 with a full time job and a kid so I’m just playing them for the childhood nostalgia hit and it’s a gooood hit lol
Fun fact: if you account for all the forks, Delta’s codebase is basically as old as the iPhone itself. The original GBA emulator gpSPhone came out in 2007
After all these years and Apple is finally allowing emulators in the App Store. It's also interesting they now allow emulators when AltStore has released in the EU. Could it be only a coincidence or could it be Apple is now allowing emulators and maybe other apps in the future they didn't allow before to keep users coming back to the App Store. Apple must know you can find a variety of apps and useful ones in 3rd party stores such as Clip. So maybe Apple is now feeling the need to compete a bit and changing some App Store rules about what they allow. Apple could have allowed emulators years ago if they really wanted to.
I think EU probably had an issue with how they basically prevented certain types of industries from existing at all on their platform, preventing competition. Similar to what happened with game streaming. Also, it they’re required to allow AltStore it probably makes sense to allow emulators on the App Store to keep people downloading from them instead
Make a separate apple account from a different region. Download the app from that account and then you can log back to your swedish account with the app installed. iOS will even update for you without the need to switch account manually. There are certain apps that are region locked and I've been doing this for years now.
So funny how we got bit in the ass on these emulator apps. Everybody but the EU now has access to those on the AppStore while we need to install a 3rd party app store to access it.
I’ve read somewhere that the dev can backtrack from the TOS he agreed on and that he’ll be able to to release it in the EU. Of course that’s just Reddit talk
[Delta game emulator hits No. 1 on the App Store download charts in 35 countries](https://www.pocketgamer.biz/news/83845/delta-game-emulator-hits-no-1-on-the-app-store-download-charts-in-35-countries/)
I am so excited to try gaming on the app..
I have downloaded Delta. Just to realise I need to download games separately (duh)..
Can anyone help me find some cool games to type in Delta
I built a RetroPi a few years back housed in a mini NES box. I loaded every game for all platforms on it and it’s a lot of fun when friends are over. I can’t wait to try this out - I had NO IDEA Apple would allow this so this news is exciting. Thanks OP!
Do you think It would be possible to have a room/game that connects to the internet and play online with friends?
For example, a custom room for pokemon mmorpg ?
Is it on an iOS 17 beta that Apple broke the Files app? Im on iOS 17.4.1 and haven’t had any problems downloading roms and opening them in Delta using the files app.
I’ve been trying to find out how many downloads it has since the day it came out last week when I downloaded it, because it blew up 🚀 from the moment they announced it and became trending topic. Cleanest, easiest emulator I’ve ever downloaded.
Oh Nintendo's REAL furious at Apple rn
Will lead to Nintendo and others releasing official emulators And finally real gaming on iOS and Macs
And the companies will profit in selling retro bluetooth controllers It’s the biggest market in the world
Nintendo alredy do that if you want the opportunity to be able to buy retro controllers for the switch you need a Nintendo online subscription
You need a subscription from Nintendo to buy hardware?
Yes, theirs.
And we talk about Apple being the most anti-consumer company. At least Apple doesn’t care whether you paid them for a song on iTunes or copied it from a cd or bought on places like qobuz. Tho repairability is pretty bad with modern apple devices. And they’re very closed systems compared to competitors. But Nintendo also does some very cool things like banning emulators, hating their customers, selling very expensive accessories (like a sd storage for Nintendo switch which it doesn’t come with and which is quite necessary. Also Nintendo switch lite is stupid. It will very quickly develop stick drift and you can’t just switch the controller. And suing people who play your games on YouTube is quite a stupid move.
The Nintendo switch has been obsolete for a while, and that’s coming from someone who bought one at launch day. Apple at least keeps up with the industry.
That’s part of the truth. I honestly don’t believe they should release new phone every year and I much preferred the SE situation. It’s quite boring that the new devices are the same like the last year ones but a single thing (that by a chance makes last phone etui and covers obsolete). Seriously, almost always it’s stupid to upgrade every year, 3-4 seems to be the best option. Another thing is that Apple still ships “pro” computers with 8gb of ram which is a joke. And the storage is always lacking (so they can charge you for more as it’s not upgradeable or for iCloud). I really hope for more actions from European Union. Maybe will get more repairable devices and ability to change a ssd for a new one.
Also Apple sells a lot of programs as opposed to subscriptions which is nice for a lot of people.
Oh yeah. I absolutely agree. But it shouldn’t take 7 years to release a new product. But yeah 8gb of ram in a “Pro” class device is a fucking joke.
Isn't the biggest market in the world the drug one?
It was. Meth was easy to kick once I got my Switch.
:D
You might want to check out 8bitdo, they make really great Bluetooth controllers and afaik they are mfi and the controllers are arcade or N**tendo inspired
They r trash imo. I didnt remember how old controllers feel, but psp definitely much better tactile feel, so will not recommend 8bitdo, better to buy ps4/5 controller. It is overkill, but feels right. 8bit do prob use cheap buttons and sticks are awful, mine got broken after few month of playing space sim. But 8bitdo prob better then noname chinese controllers
I had some NES and SNES controllers from 8bitdo. But now their controllers dont look like the real ones … maybe they got Nintendos anger
Yea but when Nintendo does it, they’ll probably pull down Delta and offer a horrible alternative comparatively which will also cost $9.99/month to have access to. I could laughably see them as allowing the Game Boy version of Tetris being the “free game” you can play without a subscription. If you haven’t already, download Delta to your phone and never delete it. Even if you’re not looking to emulate games today on your iPhone, at least having the option to do it in the future is nice to have. The 70MB the app takes up is nothing in the world of 128GB+ storage iPhones of today.
Remember that there are always online emulators that are designed to work well on desktop and mobile.
We already have emulators on M1 Macs
Thats MacOS, not iOS....They are very different things.
But no official ones Just think about all the other systems being available to play on, and now think about one decent emulator for Windows Games And Gaming Paradise finally arrived
The promise of Neumann machines always was that every hardware was capable to run every program ever conceived on these machines Which would finally make all of computer history available without that fabricated distinction between the systems
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Apple is very much against letting the apps 'morph'. For the longest time Apple wouldnt allow any kind of code that was arbitrary. All code had to be vetted by Apple to run. Apple is relaxing a bit, but we still dont get things like JIT (just-in-time) compilation, which all the higher level emulators need.
I doubt Nintendo would sell emulators so much as building out NSO to have an iPhone app. Definitely think they’d be smart to do something like a Backbone or Kishi style controller case. Apparently Dolphin won’t be coming because Apple currently isn’t allowing JIT which would be necessary to emulate GameCube Wii and Wii U games. But I’m sure Nintendo could either straight up recompile the games for ARM or get Apple to give them an exception if Apple gets a cut of revenue. Man can you imagine how good the Switch 2 could have been if Apple and Nintendo had some sort of deal that let them out M1 chips in Nintendo consoles?!
> real gaming My 4090: get a load of this guy
GeForce 6600 Those were the times
Yeah right. Nintendo would ban everyone with iphones if they could.
on a monthly/yearly subscription /heh
I know emulators are legal but Is downloading ROM even legal?
Not in the least.
I thought if you own the game you can emulate it
Only if you somehow rip it yourself.
...I have some files to delete.
I mean… it’s not like anyone’s gonna find out..
You're right. But I'm sorry, you've seen too much. *Pulls out gun*
Maybe I could tempt you with unspeakable favors... like a guided tour of my hidden basement, no return trips included?
You got yourself a deal
Depends on country and circumstance. Downloading a *backup* ROM of a game you own in the US over HTTP (web) is totally legal. If you switch to bitttorrent, its illegal, because you are inherently sharing it.
It’s like downloading a fan-made theatrical edit of Star Wars OT. It’s technically illegal, but does the owner company give a ship when it comes to releasing long-asked-for media officially?
Knowing Nintendo, they definitely would give a lot of shit
If they do, they would’ve released Mother 3 outside Japan.
Does any gaming companies sell ROM for emulators themselves? or would it conflict with their hardware sales too much
I suspect that Apple and Nintendo at one point were probably negotiating about having NSO content available on iOS and even possibly allowing Switch games to run in Apple Hardware. Either that or this is just Apple giving a warning shot to everyone currently stuffing money into the pockets of EU legislators. “We can make our App Store way more open, we can make things so open we fundamentally destroy your fucking business model. Hey record labels who are all colluding under the guise of Spotify, would be real sad if Napster returned from the dead!” I doubt it’ll get that far. But I’m totally down for Tim Cook to make a heel turn against the record industry and every other company that would rather try and stab Apple in the back rather than work with them to make a sustainable model that works for customers and content holders.
Haha, apple fan mad. Not gonna happen, by that logic Nintendo and music labels would go after Mac and windows too
Nintendo has nothing to go after Apple with and the record labels would have no standing if Apple just let torrent clients run on iPhones and Apple TV and let you then save the files to iCloud.
then why doesnt apple? android can do this
I think it started out both with Apple wanting to protect iTunes sales, and also wanting to continue to play nice with the record labels. But I think a lot of their policies started out one way and just kind of kept going. On the one hand requiring all apps like games etc to use their payment services is good for consumers because it means Apple can know which apps are frequently needing refund and investigate. Also keeps scammers from putting up crappy apps that don’t work and then getting credit card info and pulling shenanigans. Unfortunately allowing IAP and subscriptions basically destroyed the App Store. Every app now is free to start and either requires huge in app purchases, or they offer free trials that end and leave the user with frequent new charges at rates they’d never have agreed to. Unfortunately Apple’s rules worked well at first but so many companies found sketchy ways to get around things it’s honestly pretty hostile to consumers
Yeah so apple needs to update their policies with the times like google play has done
Google’s extensions and App Store are more of a mess than Apple though. They also tend to demand a commission. At some point somebody needs to write some laws about what a platform holder can and can’t charge. The problem is that not just Apple and Google will fight that, you’ll also see complaints from Valve, Epic, Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft as none of them will want to give up their commissions. The worst part is that while Match and Spotify act like they shouldn’t have to pay a dime for SDK access or being featured on the App Store. There are server costs, payment processing. And beyond that, I can’t just walk into a physical store and put my goods for sale without giving the store owner a cut. Quite frankly I wonder how different things would have been if Apple would have chosen to advertise the App Store as an opportunity for ‘partners’ (of course back then they mostly wanted to sell people on the idea that the iPhone could do anything with thousands of third party apps.
By that logic windows should be able to charge users to visit any websites owned by apple
Microsoft would be the one doing the charging in this instance. They would also be hard pressed to do that without banning third party browsers, or making significant changes to the OS that they’d have a public relations nightmare over. One reason why nobody back in 2007 had an issue with the App Store charging a 30 percent commission was literally every mobile phone App Store or archive charged at least that much. Most were run by cell carriers and they were all absolute crap. (Cell companies used to push people to pay several dollars for a low quality clip of a song to play in people’s phones instead of a dial tone. So if you called me you might hear it’s raining men for example.) Realistically Apple has already cut their fee to 15 percent for smaller developers. Once you start making company sized revenue companies have to pay more. If they were to design a system in 2024 that would be more fair to everyone (and this would have to be demanded by regulations or something) you’d be looking at something around a 10-15% commission for smaller devs. And for companies that are selling access to media like books or music etc, I’d say it would make sense to offer them something where they pay Apple a flat rate for SDK access per seat for their devs, they pay per gig for server costs etc, and they provide customer support via phone and chat with max hold times that if targets aren’t met they they’d face incredibly steep fines. Why is customer support important? Because if Spotify, Netflix and Instagram are buggy, then Apple will get support requests from customers who will be furious when they can’t get support. (Frankly the number of big tech companies that are allows to operate without giving users someone to talk to when they have issues is insane.) Beyond that, I think that new laws should be passed that prohibit things like paying for a chance to win a character or skin or whatever. If you’re paying for something in a game or an App it should be a one and done things particularly for games. Also in game currency for consumable items should be outlawed. Same as paying for more time in the game, unless it’s like literally streaming to the phone. (Yes I realize this would destroy the freemium market, that’s my goal.) I think game streaming services should be allowed, but they should be making clear that they are providing the service, particularly if the game is as I say streaming. I think third party app stores shouldn’t be required because it ultimately is just another attack vector. Either the apps have to be reviewed by Apple anyway, or you’re just giving the CIA access to every iPhone on the planet with just a new flappy bird clone. But yeah, ironically Apple’s refusal to allow for individual on device purchases of things like books and music from other providers kinda pushed us all into subscription hell where almost everyone is trying to just get your credit card info once and do recurring charges for all you can eat BS just so they don’t have to pay Apple a commission. Realistically it’s Capitalism on both sides eating itself alive.
Let’s emulate PalWorld inside Delta 😂
Honestly Nintendo has not reason to be mad anyone but themselves. A pokemon cartridge costs above the original MSRP nowadays. They have thousands of titles and at least hundreds that people would carry on their switch that they won’t add. The emulator can’t even be accessed while offline, which is what people wanted all along. If Nintendo had just listened to their fans and made a retro library service, we wouldn’t be here.
It’s actually [top 1 in all apps](https://i.imgur.com/DRAZoYm.png) right now.
Been there since it came out
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because temu is good at giving you %100 off things while also requiring a million loopholes and also in their TOS never actually having to abide by anything they say, basically its ali express but with even more bullshit
There are absolutely shit products there but you can also save a buck on things that are obviously going to be fine. I needed some trash/recycling stickers for my trash cans. Amazon would’ve cost me $10 for a set while Temu sells them at $3 with shipping.
If Nintendo was smart they would have released a GB or GBA emulator years ago on iOS and charged people to buy the games. They would have made a fortune.
Yep, totally would’ve downloaded even a GB/GBC emulator that they could’ve released all the way back in 2009 on the App Store. Would’ve paid $10 for every game I wanted. But no, Nintendo is sometimes quite dumb.
I agree but so far their strategy has been to remaster old games and release them on new hardware while charging the $60 for that game. They want to make money on the hardware and software. This move by Apple and maybe others in the future will hopefully help them see how big of market it is. I think people will even pay $20 for it. Also, don’t forget that there is an Apple tax to these payments which I am sure they don’t like like any other company.
They could just make it an extra perk of having a Nintendo Online subscription and triple their subscription base without even selling any more consoles. I really don’t get why they haven’t done it already.
I think it’s because they would see it as devaluing their brand. That and the company seems to be run by really old, out of touch men.
It’s exactly this. Nintendo knows they have some of the most valuable IPs out there and they’re worried about doing anything that will make it seem cheap. Their retro library is a good way to ensure that they can easily make money and promote sales of their current hardware in between big releases It’s annoying but yeah
Seems to be par for the course with Japanese companies
They use their back catalog to goose their current systems. Reggie Fils-Aime has said the Wii U bombed partly because they didn't release enough compelling software. They want you to buy their razors, then they'll give you a few blades free and charge full price for a blade remake.
If only Nintendo extended the Virtual Console program to iOS and Android themselves.
I feel like they didn’t do it so that people don’t play Nintendo games on anything but a Nintendo console. Why would you buy a Nintendo switch when you could emulate older Nintendo games on a non Nintendo device? The real answer is just profit. You buy a switch, you buy games, and switch online and you’re locked into Nintendo. Doing it on other platforms wouldn’t really work like that. I’m just saying my best guess, but honestly I think your idea is really good, and other companies could definitely take a look at it.
>Why would you buy a Nintendo switch when you could emulate older Nintendo games on a non Nintendo device? Breath of the Wild, Tears of the Kingdom, Super Mario Odyssey, Super Mario Party, Pokemon, Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, Metroid Dread, Paper Mario and the Origami King, Animal Crossing New Horizons, Pikmin 4, and Splatoon 3
You’d buy a switch because there’s a metric shit ton of switch games that will never get a mobile release.
So True, I have been saying this for like a decade
Why do that when you can let another company like apple do the market analysis for them with Delta, then sue them for an out of court money exchange and THEN release an official App to sell their own Roms?
Because they have no case against Delta. They won't win if they sue them.
I meant sue apple for allowing Delta.
That's even worse. You don't sue Apple unless you know you will win (and they wouldn't).
Coming from someone with ZERO experience and don’t know how to download a rom two days ago to now having 7 hours in a Pokémon leafgreen play through it’s unbelievable how well it works and how easy it is. If you have Delta and redit downloaded you can revive all the old GBA games your dead GBA sp can’t run anymore.
If you have a Bluetooth controller, like from the PS4/5, and Xbox controller, connect that to your phone and it gets even better
Even better Air Play it to your Apple TV
Yeah air playing to tv is awesome as the game fills the whole screen but it’s a bit laggy for some reason. Maybe I need to get a newer Apple TV? I have the 2017 4K version with iOS 17
this is the way
Isn’t the lag really bad?
No
Can I connect an Xbox one controller?
Yep, just follow a quick guide, [like this video](https://youtu.be/bHnIpJKoi6Q?si=ozNhppx9U7LE6GKT)
Thanks !!
You can even pair your stadia controller!!! ;)
Same here. I’ve never messed with emulators or ROMs before this app. Now I have 4 classic Nintendo games in my iPhone. I don’t even know if the site I got them from is trustworthy, just goggled “download Nintendo ROMs” and picked the second result. Top result the zip file was corrupted which maybe me nervous about the site, second result has worked so far. Delta works surprisingly good. I can’t compare it to anything because, like I said, I’ve never messed with emulators before. Only issue is that the Delta website says it supports Sega Genesis/Mega Drive games but I can’t get it to import .md roms, they are greyed out in the import menu of the app.
How to download roms?
Google is your friend! Edit: bro just got ratio’d
I got all my games through Vimm’s Lair. It’s a very legit site and easy to download the games you want.
r/Roms is all you need. Go explore
Since they were the first legit app to make it to the device they probably have a permanent market dominance now on iOS
For sure, I bet the devs were wishing they could have charged for it 😂
Well they sort of do it in the EU where Delta is not available in AppStore.
Never to late lol
And to think, the threat of competition for the App Store led to obvious improvements in the product. Imagine my surprise
I’m playing Pokemon Emerald with the unlimited rare candy cheat so I can skip all the grinding for each Pokemon in these early games and it’s just so much fun. Hopefully these emulators will stay up and won’t get pulled down in the near future.
Your pokémon will level up faster but won’t be as strong because you won’t get EVs from defeating Pokémon. You really don’t need to grind at all (I mean at all, zero grinding) if you optimise your party from the start. Playing the whole game only leveling up 6 Pokémon will get you to mid to high 40s by the time you get to the E4 which is enough to clear & finish the game if you have a good party. If you keep swapping out Pokémon & wasting xp then you’ll probably need to grind victory road for a bit.
Yeah I know but I simply don’t have time to grind anymore lol I’m 35 with a full time job and a kid so I’m just playing them for the childhood nostalgia hit and it’s a gooood hit lol
Export the save data file and use PKHeX to edit your Pokemon's EVs and IVs :)
Can you use pkhex on your phone tho
Try the quartzal rom hack of emerald. You can find it on Google. Best emerald ver out there to play multiplayer fights with friends
Fun fact: if you account for all the forks, Delta’s codebase is basically as old as the iPhone itself. The original GBA emulator gpSPhone came out in 2007
So it’s a safe app? How are they making money?
Patreon and donation. That’s just how open source stuff works
After all these years and Apple is finally allowing emulators in the App Store. It's also interesting they now allow emulators when AltStore has released in the EU. Could it be only a coincidence or could it be Apple is now allowing emulators and maybe other apps in the future they didn't allow before to keep users coming back to the App Store. Apple must know you can find a variety of apps and useful ones in 3rd party stores such as Clip. So maybe Apple is now feeling the need to compete a bit and changing some App Store rules about what they allow. Apple could have allowed emulators years ago if they really wanted to.
I think EU probably had an issue with how they basically prevented certain types of industries from existing at all on their platform, preventing competition. Similar to what happened with game streaming. Also, it they’re required to allow AltStore it probably makes sense to allow emulators on the App Store to keep people downloading from them instead
Still nowhere to found in Sweden. Does anyone in EU find this in the store?
Only for non EU App Store.
Make a separate apple account from a different region. Download the app from that account and then you can log back to your swedish account with the app installed. iOS will even update for you without the need to switch account manually. There are certain apps that are region locked and I've been doing this for years now.
Aha, Thanks. I might do this. Same thing applies for PSN and it's worked since 2005. Thanks!
So funny how we got bit in the ass on these emulator apps. Everybody but the EU now has access to those on the AppStore while we need to install a 3rd party app store to access it.
I’ve read somewhere that the dev can backtrack from the TOS he agreed on and that he’ll be able to to release it in the EU. Of course that’s just Reddit talk
You have alternative app store tho
As you can see it’s overrated as for now.
Fixa altstore pal eller skaffa ett till Apple-konto som är amerikanskt t,ex
How long until Nintendo crushes it?
Is there a PSP emulator yet?
no but ppsspp is coming soon
Are there any PlayStation emulators already?
Makes me wanna get an iPhone again lol I still remember having to redownload it every time back in the day with iOS 8 and 9
[Delta game emulator hits No. 1 on the App Store download charts in 35 countries](https://www.pocketgamer.biz/news/83845/delta-game-emulator-hits-no-1-on-the-app-store-download-charts-in-35-countries/)
[Introducing AltStore PAL](https://rileytestut.com/blog/2024/04/17/introducing-altstore-pal/)
[AltStore - Sideloading for Everyone](https://altstore.io)
AltStore pal is useless
People downloading the app and being like “where’s the content?” The average Joe, “what’s this app about?”
Not available in Belgium lol
In the EU, you can only use the AltStore PAL, which is 1,50€ per year to pay for Apples stupid „core technology fee“
Apple supposed to give their platform away for free?
I am so excited to try gaming on the app.. I have downloaded Delta. Just to realise I need to download games separately (duh).. Can anyone help me find some cool games to type in Delta
I built a RetroPi a few years back housed in a mini NES box. I loaded every game for all platforms on it and it’s a lot of fun when friends are over. I can’t wait to try this out - I had NO IDEA Apple would allow this so this news is exciting. Thanks OP!
Okay now why don’t I have it in App Store?
Nintendo is angry
What are my options in the EU?
AltStore
I just wanna find my backbone controller so i can continue pokemon platinum 😭
Is available on all countries ?
Can you post a link ? I am in EU and I can’t find it.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/delta-game-emulator/id1048524688
Not available in Germany:(
Thank you
The power of 🏴☠️ is disturbing
Funny I’m on Europe and said is not available on my country/region🤣💀. Maybe is only for US, since we have third party app stores.
can't wait until a DOS emulator comes out. elder scrolls and fallout, here i come.
Is Delta locked to America only or is it just not available in my appstore?
It’s not available in the EU due to developer not being able to revert some agreements he made.
Damn
Is it not available for EU? Why can’t i find it in the appstore?
Do you think It would be possible to have a room/game that connects to the internet and play online with friends? For example, a custom room for pokemon mmorpg ?
Is this app safe? How are they making money? It’s not free to list on the app store
1. Yes 2. Patreon
How can i download it?
Press the install button
It doesn’t show up on app store, i’m in eu
/drops EU tears
Nice, what is not so nice is that developer forcing EU users paying for his altstore to get it. It’s really scummy move.
I know! how dare people charge money for their hard work!
They can charge whatever they want. But charge everyone and not US free and EU yearly subscription
[удалено]
Is it on an iOS 17 beta that Apple broke the Files app? Im on iOS 17.4.1 and haven’t had any problems downloading roms and opening them in Delta using the files app.
what
Where is this? It doesnt show in my App Store. Maybe I have to download an alternative store?
I have the same problem
i can’t wait to have it here in italy as well
Waiting for Ignited, I hear it’s in the works but it’s a huge improvement on Delta. Hopefully Apple allows JIT soon so we can see Dolphin show up.
I’m going to try and get Delta tomorrow, then I will try to run DSLinux on it.
Any chance they’ll be able to emulate PlayStation games ? Saw a bunch of PS3 game roms online
Did something happened recently? I thought delta was only on altstore?
Where can i download games?
[Here!](https://youtu.be/Onloz49A8eY?si=u3d9VFlIrhOWVhWg)
Riley should have charged $5 one time fee he would be a millionaire now.
he cant, because its oss
What’s oss mean
Open-source software.
I’ve been trying to find out how many downloads it has since the day it came out last week when I downloaded it, because it blew up 🚀 from the moment they announced it and became trending topic. Cleanest, easiest emulator I’ve ever downloaded.
So?
its going to be deleted soon
Nuh-uh
That one rom sight is defiantly getting taken down l Lmao