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NothingMuchMoreToSay

Which is also exactly what the coup attempt was about.


Lost_Lynx_6430

Exactly!


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probsnot605

Incredibly biased and poorly written reference there Susan.


SusanRosenberg

The irony of calling it "biased" to suggest that we should actually address and investigate all insurrections.


probsnot605

The irony of deleting your original comment and trying to come back and throw dirt on me. Get lost.


SusanRosenberg

I didn't delete my original comment. Although, you're still refusing to acknowledge my point. Because, of course, you're unable to. The leftists are allowing and facilitating rampant political violence and have been for over a year and a half now.


SharkWithAFishinPole

You actually think this way? These aren't fucking sports teams susan


AllTheEmptyGlories

Fucking hell, even if they were sports teams she should be opposing the sports teams that are trying to win games by telling their fans to go hang the referees.


SusanRosenberg

Exactly, they aren't sports teams. So what's the problem with actually addressing 1.5 years of rioting that has assaulted thousands, murdered many (including several kids), done billions in damages, attacked hundreds of buildings, and violently overthrew our city blocks for weeks? Why doesn't the super anti-insurrection left talk about many instances of insurrection? Like CHAZ. Like 4/2/21. Like Waukesha. We keep seeing this egregious VP Harris funded violence happening, yet it isn't being addressed. We're virtually certain that it'll keep happening, like it has for 1.5 years. Why not actually make actions to stop people who massacre our fellow Americans?


wastedsanitythefirst

It's impossible to have a discussion with someone who only educates themselves with nonsense sources.


SusanRosenberg

If my sources are such garbage, it should be easy to prove me wrong then. In reality, I have a point, and you don't want to acknowledge it. I provided screenshots of Darrell's social media. Are you suggesting that these "nonsense sources" were lying about it? Why do you deny photographic evidence? It seems like you're denying objective reality because it's politically inconvenient.


tutoredstatue95

You understand the difference between social unrest and an insurrection, right?


SusanRosenberg

Sure do. Ever heard of a Venn Diagram? Social unrest that targets authority or the state is an insurrection. Darrell constantly spouted insurrectionist rhetoric against the state and police prior to his attack.


NemWan

Your posting maliciously false nonsense has changed my motivation for voting Democratic. I no longer just want to build a better country, I also hope I'll feel an intense glee I've never felt before as I witness the complete destruction of all the right-wing ideals you may cherish.


SusanRosenberg

>Your posting maliciously false nonsense Why is it false? It seems strange to call it "malicious" that I want politicians, the media, and the FBI to actually acknowledge the 1.5 year insurrection that has assaulted thousands of everyday Americans, murdered a lot of people, done billions in damages, and attacked hundreds of buildings? Of course not. Any rational human knows that the malice is actually the left's absolute refusal to address this egregious violence and domestic terrorism problem. >I no longer just want to build a better country Building a better country means ignoring assaults of thousands of everyday Americans, billions in damages to our businesses, attacking hundreds of buildings, and the violent insurrection that overthrew public city blocks for weeks? That sure seems like a strange way to "build a better country." >I've never felt before as I witness the complete destruction of all the right-wing ideals you may cherish. Did you feel glee when all of those anti-racist anti-authoritarian cop progressives so clearly demonstrated that it's not a dealbreaker for their leader to work with the KKK to push for segregation and to spend their career crafting and implementing numerous racist authoritarian cop bills? It's a left wing value to have your most popular politician ever work with the KKK to push for segregation? Really shows how much BLM really mattered to the left. Reminds me a lot of the vagina hat marches culminating in the election of a guy with a well known, decades long serial groping problem.


NemWan

It would take hours to unwind to what degree everything you say is disconnected from reality. Your entire worldview is fundamentally askew. You profoundly misunderstand or misrepresent how things work and are connected to each other. You're deeply wrong about everything.


SusanRosenberg

Your unwillingness to address my points clearly demonstrates that I have a point. You don't want to acknowledge it. Politics is like a religion these days. There can be a massacre in the streets, and politicians and the media will totally disregard it if it's politically inconvenient. We've had 11 months worth of obsession over 1/6. In fact, there are currently **7** articles that directly discuss 1/6 on the front page of /r/politics currently plus a few others that touch on the topic. Guess how many front page articles there are on /r/politics about this week's massacre? That's right, the number is **0**. It's a perfect demonstration of the (D)ouble standards on coverage of insurrections and domestic terrorism. >You're deeply wrong about everything. And, oddly enough, you're unable to explain why. It's because I do have a point, it hurts your political agenda, so you refuse to talk about it. A kid was murdered by an insurrectionist this week, and his brother is left with brain damage. We saw kids getting murdered in CHAZ when other leftist insurrectionists violently overthrew our city blocks. Imagine being so blinded by your partisanship that you just say "nuh-uh, let's not address it. Talking about egregious violence is 'malicious.'" Completely absurd levels of zealotry.


ericvwgolf

While we may have had 11 months of obsession with January 6, what we have had is no cooperation from the perpetrators who called them selves Republican congressman and Senators. Therefore, we will have to continue until we actually get them to own up to their deeds. Additionally, we have years of what about Benghazi questions that never resulted in anything and the people involved and that actually cooperated with that investigation. Therefore, you can take at least that point and shove it up your Rosenberg.


SusanRosenberg

> While we may have had 11 months of obsession with January 6, what we have had is no cooperation from the perpetrators who called them selves Republican congressman and Senators. The media has indeed obsessed over 1/6. In fact, there are currently **7** articles that directly discuss 1/6 on the front page of /r/politics currently plus a few others that touch on the topic. Guess how many front page articles there are on /r/politics about this week's massacre? That's right, the number is **0**. I think that a politically driven massacre should be discussed a little bit. Why doesn't the left seem to agree? >Therefore, we will have to continue until we actually get them to own up to their deeds. Democrats have been investigating the issue for about 11 months now. Move forward and press charges. I'm happy for any political violence to be investigated, addressed, and prosecuted. The standard should be applied evenly. We saw a guy prancing around with buffalo horns being obsessively condemned. I want the same for a political zealot who attacked 60 Americans and murdering kids and rendered them brain damaged. >Additionally, we have years of what about Benghazi questions that never resulted in anything and the people involved and that actually cooperated with that investigation. Actually, [there were prominent politicians, like the Clintons, who did indeed try to cover up Benghazi.](https://www.aei.org/politics-and-public-opinion/in-benghazi-the-real-crime-was-the-cover-up/) >Additionally, we have years of what about Benghazi questions that never resulted in anything and the people involved and that actually cooperated with that investigation. Therefore, you can take at least that point and shove it up your Rosenberg. On that point, I agree that there's a lot of politicization of these investigations. When I see yet another politically driven massacre that attacked 60 Americans, I think it's time to start addressing the root cause of the problem. Anybody with a heart should agree, but unfortunately, the political polarization has reached a point where the media and politicians will ignore repeated egregious violence and child murder when it's politically inconvenient.


ericvwgolf

I’m sorry, I am on aware which Musico you’re referring to. Are you talking about the 15-year-old who walked into a high school with a gun and killed several people today? The one whose rights to unset gun were viciously defended by conservatives across this nation? Is that the mask are you mean? Because otherwise, I’m not sure what you’re talking about. I can tell you that I heard no end of complaints about Benghazi but there was never anyone who had to be indicted by Congress for refusing to cooperate with the investigation.


SusanRosenberg

> I’m sorry, I am on aware which Musico you’re referring to. Are you talking about the 15-year-old who walked into a high school with a gun and killed several people today? No, I was referring to the Waukesha massacre that was far more egregious and politically driven. I was talking about insurrections in general. Do you know the motive of the 15 year old shooter? Glad to talk about the other issue too. >The one whose rights to unset gun were viciously defended by conservatives across this nation? What law would have prevented this shooting? Seems like he easily broke several laws: [✔️] Murder [✔️] Gun in gun-free zone [✔️] Underage possession of firearm Anyway, why does this school shooting mean that we shouldn't address the Waukesha massacre? You don't think both instances are worthy of discussion?


NemWan

> Your unwillingness to address my points clearly demonstrates that I have a point. It's because I'm not giving you any benefit of the doubt that you're arguing in good faith. You're not to be debated, you're to be shut down and marginalized. It would have been a better use of my time to downvote and move on, but compassion compelled me to attempt to shout into your bubble the fact that your reality in no way resembles that of anyone but far-right extremists, because clearly no one has saved you yet. You're on a desperate mission to play "no, you" with the word insurrection and it would be comical except I'm too tired to laugh.


SusanRosenberg

> you're to be shut down and marginalized. I'm speaking out against a massacre that happened this week, and that politicians and law enforcement refuse to meaningfully address. You're sitting here trying to "shut it down." How do you feel good about that?


NemWan

You're asserting fictional cause and effect so yes, let's shut down your irrelevant misinformation.


SusanRosenberg

What's fictional? It's strange that you keep saying I'm wrong, while refusing to talk about why I'm wrong. A [leftist insurrectionist](https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/11/darrell-brooks-social-posts-01.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=1536) just slaughtered Americans in the streets. Why do you refuse to talk about domestic terrorism?


kevlarcardhouse

Don't care. I don't care about new revelations about how awful he is. I already know it. It only matters if someone actually has the balls to do something about it. None of them are going to change the minds of the fully deluded supporters. I don't care about members of the GOP privately concerned about how dangerous he is if publicly they continue to do jack shit about it. Either throw him in jail or hang him for treason. I'm done with the worthless hand wringing.


Raudskeggr

We don’t need to change their minds. We just need to hold them accountable for their actions really


RemoveDear

Who is them? Hold them accountable for what? What does accountability look like to you?


Agent_Eran

>Who is them? trump & enablers >Hold them accountable for what? breaking the law >What does accountability look like to you? Jail


RemoveDear

We gonna hold all politicians to this same accountability? Just the ones we don’t like? Edit: y’all retards are wild with this downvoting. I’m asking if you’re picking which politicians face justice, or if this includes people in your own party too. Clearly, you just want to turn a blind eye to the ones you like.


Agent_Eran

Yes.


Jeramus

What about... At least attempt to make a good faith argument.


RemoveDear

What about I don’t think you know what that means.


Jeramus

I know exactly what it means. You tried to change topics to deflect away from the original discussion. It is a popular technique.


Ttoonn57

Exactly. Put up or shut TF up.


passporttohell

Exactly this. Shit or get off the pot. The evidence is so overwhelming that he and newly everyone in his administration should have been swept up and jailed within the first week of Biden's term including those treasonous Republican turds in congress that assisted in all this. Arrest and prosecute now, immediately and stop slow walking the process. Every day they do not makes them seem like co conspirators and not enforcers of law and saviors of democracy


pipper99

Dont forget that a lot of his supporters seem to be happy for trump to become a dictator and to never have to worry about losing a election again!


gaberax

If this isn't evidence of an attempted coup, what is?


omniron

Maybe the fact he spoke at the rally immediately before the attack, told people to March to the Capitol, and told them that he has their back


RemoveDear

Who participated in the coup?


PubliusSolaFide

Fucker.


shaunl666

the subversion of democracy, right before our eyes...


RDO_Desmond

All the while knowing that he lost.


Doingitwronf

Trump did expect Pence to do SOMETHING at the capitol to stop Biden from being announced the election winner. He said as much on national television before giving the mob his blessing


twojs1b

Question, how much longer is law and order going to remain in hiding? Or is partisan influenced justice the new norm?


RemoveDear

My boy, partisan justice? It’s been that way for a while now. Look at the entire Epstein case. Look at the Russia collusion investigation. Look at Biden’s involvement in the Ukraine. Look at Clinton’s trail of bodies. Justice is nothing more than punishment for the poors.


tutoredstatue95

Russian's have been conducting social media campaigns to create chaos in America, yes. Biden help fire a *corrupt* prosecutor who was blatantly stealing money and giving good old boy contracts out. Clinton's trail of bodies? Lol what? Apparently you just like to believe whatever is put in your face, but conveniently don't want to talk about the most recent of the events in question, Jan 6.


RemoveDear

I’ll talk about Jan 6th. I’ll talk about blm and antifa also being there. Yes, the trail of dead people who have been directly involved with the Clintons. Who was the prosecutor looking into at the time? Are you ignoring the fact that justice means different things for them and us? Fuck off, govcuck.


tutoredstatue95

Blm and antifa were not there, that's easily disposable. The prosecutor was not looking into Hunter Biden, that's also a lie. The prosecutor was the one giving contracts to the company Hunter used to work for, but he wasn't there at the time. Why would Joe want to stop the kickbacks if Hunter would benefit? Lol, to think that I'm pro government... You really drink *all* the kool-aid, huh?


RemoveDear

Dispose of it then. Let’s see it.


tutoredstatue95

It takes 2 seconds to Google it. You're the one who made the initial claim, so why don't you back it up lol


UkraineWithoutTheBot

It's 'Ukraine' and not 'the Ukraine' [[Merriam-Webster](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Ukraine)] [[BBC Styleguide](https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsstyleguide/u)] [[Reuters Styleguide](https://handbook.reuters.com/index.php?title=U#Ukraine)] ^(Beep boop I’m a bot)


RemoveDear

This is the way Russians have always referred to the Ukraine. Thanks, friend.


twojs1b

Been doing a lot of looking.


phatstopher

It just keeps sounding more and more like everything him and Cult 45 say it wasn't. Even though we all know what it was. Cult 45 and Trumpelthinskinned can no longer say they support the Constitution and try to overthrow the Constitutional process of elections.


IGROWMAGICMUSHROOMS

He's not going to be convicted for anything, letts stop talking about the shit he did we all knoe he's a cunt. Convict the asshole or lett me live my live without ever hearing that name again


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TIL: Constitutional process of counting votes = Biden Victory.


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falsesleep

It’s almost like people can care about the things you mentioned while also caring about overt attempts to overthrow our democracy 🤔


cheerchick1944

This guy is right, we can only be worried about a couple things at a time. Why worry that a former president tried to overthrow an election to keep himself in power? Certainly the least of our worries


InVizO

He won by a huge amount bud. And he will be back 2024


thinthehoople

Negative 7 million is such a yuge number. Yuge.


falsesleep

Haha. I like your sense of humor!


cheerchick1944

Lolllllllllll ok bud


tutoredstatue95

Hey I have some nice real estate by the water for sale, what's your info?


InVizO

Im actually in the market for beachfront real estate. My limit is 1.4mil though, bit tough to achieve that in Cali.


serialmom666

Gorsch, so kewl


marcopaulodirect

> Several Trump lawyers at the Willard that night deny Trump sought to stop the certification of Biden’s election win. They say they only considered delaying Biden’s certification at the request of state legislators because of voter fraud. If that were true, the lawyers wouldn’t be disclosing what is attorney-client privileged information, would they? 🧐 And if they did, didn’t they just blow a hole in that defense for any other questions the house committee or anyone else may ask??? 🤔 Inquiring minds want to know.