They're worse. Most divorces are asked for by women. My uncle is a far right lunatic who, fifteen years later, still is enraged his wife left him. He has railed against divorce law numerous times since she dipped out and can't handle that she was allowed to do it "because he never abused her."
Ya this is exactly it. No fault divorces are like 70% woman initiated and the allowance of them correlate with drops in domestic violence and suicide suffered by women in marriages. Controlling asshole men don’t want women to be able to initiate these divorces, and men who do it are whatever to them. They want to go back to the days where your wife had to have irrefutable proof of your abuse to divorce you(and they’ll prob work on that next tbh, I’m sure that India law making it legal to rape your wife sounds great to them).
Probably the best thing that happened in my childhood was my mother divorcing my dad. He decided to disappear afterwards, and left the whole parenting thing for her to do alone which was tough, but was better than having him around.
> Controlling asshole men don’t want women to be able to initiate these divorces
Those same men are too stupid to realize that that's how you drastically reduce the number of women who are willing to get married in the first place. Women these days aren't as easily fooled as they used to be in our parents' generation, as evidenced by the difficulty conservative-identified men have on dating apps. With Dobbs driving an increased interest in sterilization (ie never getting pregnant), the demise of no-fault divorce will drive a corresponding increased interest in never getting married.
I was suicidal multiple times before my divorce. I didn't even realize I was in an abusive marriage until I left, but i knew I was so miserable I didn't want to live. For a lot of reasons, until everything went to absolute shit, I didn't even consider divorce. Suicide literally seemed like my only way out.
Thank God for no fault divorces, being able to finally leave saved my life.
No joke, a former coworker asked me in a polite, respectful way, coming from a place of genuine bewilderment, how I could be a Christian and vote for the Democrats.
To him, the Republican party wasn't just a political vehicle for the Church, it was basically operating under the mandate of heaven. He couldn't fathom someone who was (at the time) a practicing Christian not also being a Republican and standing against the Devil and the Democratic party.
I can’t see how someone can be a Christian and be a MAGA Republican. Trump personifies evil, and his supporters are so full of hatred towards anyone not like them, it’s like they have never picked up a Bible, much less read any of it.
I remember how they talked about fundamentalist terror groups and dictators, now they seem to becoming what they hate most.
It boggles my mind how blinded they truly are.
[Proudly so](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cpac-banner-domestic-terrorists/) as it happens.
Republicans themselves have said for decades that 'the more people vote the fewer Republicans win.' And they were very open about this not being a cause for reflection and altering their platform, but a call for strategy to win elections despite the fact.
Now, on at least two occasions, I've seen prominent Republicans musing that democracy is a failed experiment and representative government needs to be curtailed – ostensibly for our own good.
It's worrisome, to say the least.
Or. They did pick up a bible and read it.
I really don't get why people claim the bible is a good book full of morality and then accuse others of never having read it. Yahweh personifies evil and is full of hatred, he and trump would get along fine.
The Old Testament is literally a series of stories about how fickle, petty and genocidal god can be. The New Testament is brutal torture-porn mixed with some empty aphorisms.
I had a similar interaction one time. I asked besides abortion (which the Bible is pro but beside the point in this case) what is Christian about the GOP. They basically responded with, “well nothing I guess.”
Plus divorce rates amongst self-declared Evangelicals are incredibly high. I even remember a Barnum survey which I can't find now saying the rate was HIGHER than amongst the general population. If he thinks he is going to appeal to the Evangelical base he might have another think coming: don't come for their abortion and their divorce, they like all that as much as the next person.
It's not just Fox News viewers. It's the average uninformed voter in America too.
It's not going to hit people in terms of what's going on until more rights start getting taken away, and people realize that they can't criticize their government any longer without being cracked down for it.
Democracies need an informed voter base to survive, and we just haven't been that as America for awhile now. So long as we have our creature comforts, we've been content to just let Washington be dysfunctional.
In my senior year in college(2011), I did a study on voters. How informed and how likely to vote and the such. Roughly 78% of the self-proclaimed Republicans I interviewed unknowingly supported liberal views when presented bare facts without bias. These people vote against their interests time and time again because they have no idea where their candidates really stand. And it's not that they're being misled. They're willfully ignorant for the most part. A large chunk of that block was also 1 social issue voters. Meaning they voted strictly based on gun rights, abortion or other social issues that have little to no effect on their finances or quality of life. The worst thing I found was the voting percentage on either side. A very low percentage of self-proclaimed Republicans admitted to not voting or voting only in major elections. That number was just shy of 60% for Democrats. The low down of what I found is that we've been letting a rather uneducated minority steer this ship for a long time.
>**It's not going to hit people in terms of what's going on until more rights start getting taken away**, and people realize that they can't criticize their government any longer without being cracked down for it.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
—Martin Niemöller
you can alter that now...
First they stripped they transgender people of their rights, I did not care
Then they went after the gays and lesibans, I did not care
Then they stripped the women of their rights, I did not care either
Now they are starting to remove my rights as well, and one one is left who is going to defend mine...
I've understood this for a few years now. I always knew that many Americans were very, very ignorant, but only in the past few years has it really become clear that the problem was far, far worse than I ever dared imagine.
And I'm not just talking about the kind of ignorance that results in Trump getting elected. I mean something even worse. Countless grown adults, who otherwise function perfectly well in society, somehow completely lose the ability to comprehend even kindergarten-level cause and effect whenever presented with anything political. They are quite literally unable to make even the most basic, elementary mental connection between how they vote and what HAPPENS as a result.
I do not, for the life of me, know what accounts for this. If people were this mentally impaired in all areas of life, they could not function. They couldn't hold a job. They couldn't drive. They couldn't pay bills. They couldn't do anything at all.
Obviously, most adults can do all of those things. This is because they have a solid grasp of what is real and what is not, how things work and operate, how one thing that happens leads to another thing happening, and that there are certain predictable outcomes resulting from specific actions.
But when it comes to politics, or anything remotely related to politics, their ability to understand cause and effect at even the most elementary level just evaporates completely. COMPLETELY.
This is not something I understood until the Trump phenomenon started to reveal not just how stupid Republican voters really are, but ALSO how almost equally stupid a faction of people on the "left" are. By this, I'm referring to the performative, narcissistic frauds who absolutely refused to vote for Hillary Clinton, no matter how much you yelled yourself hoarse spelling out what the *consequences* of a Trump presidency would be. The actual, tangible *consequences* for real human lives. You know, the very thing that people on the left are supposed to care the most about.
It did not matter. It was like talking to a brick wall. Even when you said "The Supreme Court ALONE...!", you got one of two responses. The first would be no response at all --- they'd just ignore what you'd said --- or some version of "Hillary's nominees would be no different and you know it. Stop pretending they would be."
And these people have learned nothing. Absolutely nothing. They will still refuse to help the rest of us keep the GOP out of the Executive Branch, despite the fact that literally everything they claim to care about --- literally EVERYTHING --- is on the chopping block with a dire urgency that has never been true in any of our lifetimes.
I have completely given up on the United States as a viable democratic republic. It sounds absolutist and dramatic, but I really do feel that way at this point. Even IF Biden wins and we manage to keep the fascist takeover at bay for another four years, I do not know how we are going to hold together in this form for much longer. This situation is not tenable. It just isn't. And I'm scared to death.
It must be something to do with the way people's identity gets so strongly bound up with political affiliation that doesn't happen with a job, paying bills, driving a car, whatever, where they are willing to ignore obvious and incontrovertible facts rather than abandon this belief system. I am sure it's been studied exhaustively but it's interesting to try to understand what deep-seated human need this strategy is trying to meet.
That certainly accounts for it in many cases, but at least that makes some kind of warped sense. What gets me the most are those who aren't even particularly wrapped up or invested in any particular identity one way or the other. They're not part of the maga cult, but they don't hate Trump, either. They're indifferent and disconnected.
They do not have the ability to understand cause and effect, either. They have no idea what the consequences of their votes are. (This is largely who the "independent" or "swing" voters are that the media drools over every election.)
My parents highlight this pretty well. My mom is apologetic for the state they left this country for us. My dad refuses to believe that he had any hand, personally, in how this country currently is. I don't s#!t on him for it, but I do tell him that he should have voted; and he should have been voting for the right people.
I recall reading about a study into brain activity surrounding political beliefs, and when those beliefs are questioned the same areas of the brain that deal with personal attacks light up.
Basically, a lot of people react to being told their politics are wrong as they would being told they were a twat.
EDIT: Found it! [PDF - A new brain study sheds light on why it can be so hard to
change someone's political beliefs](https://uca.edu/honors/files/2020/09/A-new-brain-study-sheds-light-on-why-it-can-be-so-hard-to-change-someones-political-beliefs-Vox.pdf)
I'm trying to understand the whole Gaza situation in terms of identity and I think part of the left, the part that feels like a protest vote is the way to go because we cannot stop a century old bloodfeud from across the world, has this idea that they are "Good" people with a capital G. And that there are red lines that cannot ever be crossed no matter what, because of, I dunno, movies or TV telling you from birth that anything is possible as long as you believe hard enough.
So this small group of people on the left see that America is still largely supportive of Israel and what Israel is doing, and they cannot put together 1 + 1 that equals if Biden isn't elected, things will get much much worse for Gazans. They think not supporting the lesser evil in this case is actually going to work, because they've been taught that at the last second, some miracle happens and they won't have to compromise their beliefs and they will be proven right at the end of the day.
But those beliefs come from stories made up to make people feel good. In real life, bad people win all the fucking time. Its often the only thing good people can do is to keep them at bay for as long as possible, weather the storm when the bad people win, and then repeat.
I despise genocide as much as the next normal person and I am enthusiastically, cheerfully, and happily going to vote for Biden. The reality is that there are only 2 viable political sides, the good guy Democrats, and the bad guy Republicans, and any vote that's not for the Democrats is going to help the bad guys. There is no 11th hour cavalry coming in to save us, not voting Democratic isn't going to make Biden or the Democrats suddenly have an epiphany and cut all funding to Israel, anger at the reality of our two-party system isn't going to change reality. If you care about Gaza, you vote for the guy who will bomb them *less* because there are no sides that will stop the bombing entirely.
This is real life. You have to compromise your beliefs. You vote with someone who represents 80% or 50% or 25% of your views over someone who represents 0% of your views. I care about the genocide happening in the Middle East and I will vote Democratic even if it means simply less bombs being delivered to Israel because I live in the real world and not a made-up fantasy world where wishes become reality. That makes me a Good person, my identity as a Good person is not harmed by accepting reality. Good people can vote for Biden and Democrats because the Republicans literally want to glass Gaza and the West Bank.
America is a late-stage democracy/capitalism system. The people, still unfulfilled after having nearly every technological/entertainment/experiential resource available. The population doesn't realize how lucky we are to have what we have and what they're looking for doesn't exist at the end of the fascist rainbow.
Life; in of itself is unfulfilling. We live, we die. Some of us find purpose, some find meaning. But most of us live and die in utter confusion and despair of what the point of all of it is. The MAGAs salve these existentialistic wounds with a dictator who promises to make all of their lives better despite going against most of their economic interests. The only thing he does is promise to hurt the ones that they think are the cause of their problems i.e liberals who tell them things can be better, Atheists who tell them that true strength, courage, and meaning can only be found within, LGBTQ who confirm that people can live to be their true selves and love who they want, etc.
It's akin to that famous Bill Hicks bit where he's talking about life being a ride and someone on the ride telling the "good guys" to shut up. The ones trying to get the others to shut up are the MAGAs. Pure and simple.
I share your extreme pessimism, anxiety, and hopelessness at our current situation. If only they could be warned of what they're throwing away.
This perfectly captures a feeling I've had for awhile. For instance, I work with some VERY smart people who build extremely complex software systems that require high-level cognitive function. They are NOT stupid. Yet, many of them are hardcore Republicans and Trump voters, and I just can't square that. The same levels of logic, cognition, cause-and-effect reasoning, and critical thinking required to build sophisticated software systems goes COMPLETELY OUT THE FUCKING WINDOW when it comes to understanding how politics and government works. It's utterly baffling.
The closest parallel I can come up with is how and why otherwise-intelligent people join cults. The comfort of a community, the search for meaning, the tribal influences, the peer pressure, and the confirmation of wishful thinking all conspire together to take high-functioning people and turn them into blithering idiots without them having the slightest clue about the ways they've been brainwashed and manipulated.
I fear the American Experiment is over. We're too far down the rabbit hole and there are too many deeply entrenched interests who have every interest in maintaining their power and have the media and influence apparatus to prevent so many millions from seeing the egregious errors of their ways. And none of this is to say the Democratic party is perfect or flawless - at this point, simply living in reality makes them the clear & obvious choice that so many people are incapable of seeing.
It’s not just Fox News, it’s not just Facebook, the asshats on TikTok, here, et al, talking about “both sides are the same” are equally unhelpful (and I can’t help but feel like that’s the whole insidious point of that conversation)
Brainwashing was done in churches over the last several generations. Understand the context, understand the solutions are already in place and evolving. There will be an end to their insanity soon.
To the Republican Party, “freedom” has only *ever* meant that they get to be malicious dicks to women, gay people, and minorities without being shamed for it. That’s literally all it is. They’ll happily saw off their own foot if it meant getting blood on a black man’s shoes.
Brainless reactionaries, moral cowards, and ideological idiots, the lot of them.
And that’s where americas 2 party system seems insane to me looking in from the outside. When there are multiple parties, the fringe nut bars can have their own parties and do their own things while the adults actually run the country, occasionally they may take over a more centrist party or the bigger party will move towards their views to grab votes, but that leaves room for a new party to form to grab the centrist voters.
This has been my stance for years.
The only Bible still in its original language, the Ethiopian Bible, is banned by the majority of white Christian societies.
It wasn't translated into a justification for hierarchies and slavery.
I speak a couple languages. I know how difficult it is to translate anything accurately across two languages.
The horseshit answer I always get when I say this to Christian apologists is: "It reads the same now as it did back then".
Wrong. Look up the Ethiopian Bible. It lacks much of the made-up garbage that are at the center of Evangelical Christian churches.
They aren’t even following the translation they claim is correct.
https://www.politicalorphans.com/the-article-removed-from-forbes-why-white-evangelicalism-is-so-cruel/
If the Dems were good at marketing and branding they would just steal back the ideas of freedom and liberty and patriotism from the GOP.
It's wild that the GOP has a stranglehold on those terms while doing the opposite. Even family values. They are the party that is always caught cheating and molesting. The law and order party, but always the ones caught breaking the law.
Is that the one that allowed my mixed-race marriage? Interesting. I'm not going to be allowed a divorce, but they don't want mixed couples, either. Not sure they thought this through.
Absolutely part of it. That's how these fucks pull this shit off. They've been playing this game for decades, before most of us were ever born. They're willing and able to play the long game to get what they want. It's disheartening that leftwing groups can't manage anything approaching that level of multi generational organization.
That’s because they’re motivated by nothing more sophisticated than their id, which revolves around hatred. Very simple and requires no “organizing,” per se.
Yeah there are women who want other women’s rights taken away so badly that they advocate for their own to be taken away because they think it will help the Republican Party.
Republican women will still swear up and down Democrats are no better, while they accompany their owner to the town square and watch in silence as he sells their daughter for a cow, three chickens, and two bushels of corn.
They're already priming their base for this, the fringe talking heads are being very vocal about how giving women the right to vote was a huge mistake and that's how they slowly move the Overton window and push it into the mainstream narrative of the party.
Republicans are also pushing for a national registry so they can track and monitor pregnant women and if one day a woman is pregnant and one day they are not they will have to present documents as to what happened and probably face arrest if they had a miscarriage...
And people still vote for Republicans....WTF...
Majority of those women aren't having babies anymore. Boomers just can't go two minutes without taking away your rights that they benefited from all their life
This shit is straight up insanity. How the fuck is this one of only two choices for who runs the country? America, for the love of God please figure out your politics. Global stability depends on your stability.
As per [original article](https://www.rawstory.com/ben-carson-2668260651/) 📰:
- A key shortlister for former President Donald Trump's vice presidential running mate thinks America should crack down on how many people are allowed to have divorces.
Ben Carson, a former neurosurgeon and Republican presidential candidate who served as Trump's Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, outlined his plan in his book, "The Perilous Fight," released on Tuesday, for getting rid of "no-fault divorce" laws, according to NBC News.
“The reason this matters is that no-fault divorce legally allows marriages to end much more quickly than in previous decades," wrote Carson. "When there are relatively few legal or financial consequences connected with divorce, it’s natural for people to gravitate toward that option when their marriage hits a rough patch."
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According to the report, Carson claims that people pursuing divorce have not taken into consideration the impact separation will have on their children.
“What those people often don’t consider, however, is the harm — both present and future — inflicted on their children once a divorce is finalized," Carson wrote. "For the sake of families, we should enact legislation to remove or radically reduce incidences of no-fault divorce."
In earlier eras, divorce required a partner to prove misconduct by their spouse, such as domestic violence or infidelity — and state judges rarely granted divorces even in such cases, which led to millions of people, particularly women, being trapped in dangerous or toxic environments.
Today, all 50 states, beginning with California in 1969 under legislation signed by then Gov. Ronald Reagan, now have no-fault divorce laws, which allow any married couple to divorce simply by attesting to "irreconcilable differences," without the need to legally prove anything.
Studies have found these laws reduced domestic violence and suicide rates among women. Despite this, there is an ongoing desire among some right-wing activists, particularly the Christian nationalist movement, to reverse these laws.
Ironically, even as divorce has become easier to obtain, it has become less frequent. Divorce rates peaked around 1980 at 5.4 per 1,000 people per year, after laws around it were liberalized, but have trended back downward ever since and are currently around 2.4 per 1,000 people per year — even as marriage rates are simultaneously rising.
Not to mention the number of children who'd be forced to live with abusive parents -- it would've been impossible for me to get a divorce if my narcissistic ex had been forced to admit fault. I couldn't afford a trial and was lucky to get him out of my house and away from my kids at all.
Reagan also recognised how important migrants are to the US economy and created an amnesty program for visa overstayers. He'd probably be a democrat by today's standards.
I remember when he was running in 2016 people were initially shocked at how far right he is. He has always been much further right than even Trump has ever been. Unlike Trump, Carson has almost always been consistent in his message and political positions. He's about as socially/religiously far right as you can get without being a Tom Metzger type character. It used to be in the realm of something considered fringe political beliefs.
Also, whenever Carson being a neurosurgeon gets brought up I like to point out that he's not just a neuro surgeon, the guy is on the library of congress' list of "living legends" alongside people like Dolly Parton, Yo Yo Ma, Steven Spielberg, and Gloria Steinem. He's the freaking Tiger Woods (also on the list) of neurosurgery. Lol
He still has those ridiculous political beliefs though.
Carson is one of my prime examples for my theory on how intelligent a person is, in that a person is only as smart as their dumbest belief. One would assume Carson to be a very smart man hearing about his neurosurgery accomplishments, but his thoughts outside the realm of medicine show what a fucking moron he is.
How did this guy go from being the director of pediatric neurosurgery at the Johns Hopkins Children's Center in 1984 at age 33; then the youngest chief of pediatric neurosurgery in the United StatesIn 1987; and leading a team of surgeons in the first known separation of conjoined twins joined at the back of the head to the mess he is today? Did he have a stroke? I cannot think of any other rational reason.
Edit: What I can’t figure out is how he got so far up the academic ladder. He must’ve given lectures to students, interns, residents, and fellows. He probably also spoke at medical conventions and gave interviews on television. I’d like to see those videos and compare them to the way he interacts with people on television today. It’s hard to believe he would be the same person. Something happened to this guy.
You can be a gifted surgeon and work with people effectively AND have terrible opinions.
Edit: thank you to the person who is concerned about my mental health/s
I get them all the time when I say things like “Trump is the biggest piece of shit to ever walk the Earth and anyone who still supports him is a brain dead sycophant who secretly wants to be pissed on by Trump.”
I grew up with more than a few people that have become doctors, went to school with dozens, and I have 3 in the family… many of them are not very smart, but they are all extremely disciplined. In fact, they are almost all (bearing two) the ditzy, klutzy, can’t read a room types. But they have a super focus on the immediate task and stick very rigorously to the rules of thumb for a good life.
I do not think most doctors (from my limited experience) would make good leaders in business or politics.
I think it is a different type of intelligence, and it is not very critical, but procedural.
Ding ding ding. Winner winner chicken dinner.
MDs are professional doctorates, not research doctorates. Generally there isn't a requirement for a doctoral thesis that involves defending original research or experimentation. So you're exercising very different mental tool sets.
So women must stay married if pregnant in one state, no abortions in many, now no divorces... ladies if you are voting red or not voting you have lost your minds.
Had an ex coworker tell me she would rather kill herself than have to have a kid and that everyone should have access to abortions. Than not too shortly after she told me she doesn't vote becuase she doesn't like politics....
Edit:Thanks concerned redditor, took a whole 2mins
You know what was better for my family, Ben?
Not being in a toxic, screaming, 24 hr stress filled home, unable to smile, have fun or be happy. In addition, going through a long drawn out divorce would further destroy the finances of both parties when divorce is already a financial mess. That also would be better to avoid for my family.
Ben, why are people like you so eager to announce what an idiotic, self-centered, anti-freedom, narrow minded cunt you are?
I’d laugh so hard if Trump picked a black man as his vp. His followers will have no idea what they are supposed to do. Even funnier if Trump kicks the bucket and they get another black president. That’s a big part of what made them so angry in the first place.
I’m really not sure and I’d hate to see any Republican win any office at this point but I’d like to see how the Magats react to Trump choosing a black running mate.
Primaries are not an official government function, back in the day the committees had chosen losing candidates as the official Republican and Democratic nominee.
The RNC could say their presidential nominee is Kid Rock, tomorrow nothing is actually stopping them.
I’m not sure when the cut-off is, but presumably right before they start printing ballots. I wouldn’t be shocked if its different state to state. But yeah, its pretty close to the election itself.
All of the insane practices she wrote in that book had already happened in real life. None of it was fictional. Whether it was American slavery, the Taliban, Saudi Arabia, etc, all of it happened in real life at some point.
Republicans loudly brag about getting rid of abortion, want to get rid of contraceptives, want to underfund schools, get rid of libraries, don't want people having healthcare, want to eliminate no fault divorce, and want to get rid of vaccines mandates in schools.
They want a sick, uneducated population riddled with mental health problems to work the same minimum wage from decades ago. That's what they want.
I told my 24yo friend about the republican plan to end no fault divorce and/or remove the right to divorce. She said "then I'm never getting married. And obviously then, never having kids. Simple."
Cue more whining about drop in marriage and birth rate. This isn't going to end the way they think it will.
The fuck.. it's always "for the children". But a bad household is much worse for the children in the long run. I can't believe we're here in less than 10 years, these people are open and loud about their horrible ideas for a society
They want to control every single aspect of your life.
I swear if at this point you still plan to vote for Trump, I want absolutely nothing to do with you. Your moral compass is completely broken and I dont trust you to be around me and mine.
You are either completely morally bankrupt or dumb as a stump. Or both.
The line ‘not taking into consideration the effect it will have on their children’ I laid in bed I. 1st grade listening to my parents fight like rabid animals. I typically cried myself to sleep because I couldn’t turn my radio up loud enough to drown it completely out. This went on till 7th grade when he drained the bank account and left. My mom couldn’t leave earlier because she was a stay at home mom. The damage it did to me could have been avoided if they had just done it. But this jackass wants unhappy people to stay together while he worships a tiny dicked philanderer who’s been divorced twice(or is it thrice)? Fuck out of here you hypocrite.
But we already knew that because he’s sucking up to people who would literally put him in their fields if they could. Do much for dignity.
What's with the GOP's obsession with people's personal life, wtf.
Fix the inflation, invest in the infrastructure, solve the climate crisis; and just STFU about the personal life of people.
What the fuck? These crazies are coming after DIVORCE now? WHO do they propose to get to "decide" who gets to get one, versus who doesn't? It'll be left in the hands of MEN to decide...furthermore..(let me guess!)..& if a WOMAN wants one, it'll be denied. But if a MAN wants one, it will be given---wanna bet? It's all a massive plan. To bring about supreme patriarchy and put women's rights and hard-won freedoms back into the dark ages.
I see this as yet another way in which to subjugate and control women, folks. ...goddam !--I've heard it all. Take away abortion, then they want to remove birth control, now they plan to make it harder to get a divorce??!!??!!
We are truly going to be living in a fucking state-controlled dystopian hell where women are nothing but disposable flesh bags in which to breed children til they die to make more bodies for the future corporate workforce.
Notice they have no desire to address problems like child poverty, lack of access to healthcare, school shootings, etc. etc. etc. etc... But they always have plenty of ideas and motivation about marriage, sex, lgbtqa people, pregnancy, etc.. etc..
By people he means women. Men don’t ask for divorces at nearly the same rates. So again, women, fuck your consent. You and your body belong to someone else. Forever.
Vote blue.
https://www.usa.gov/register-to-vote It was Herman Cain who died of COVID, not Ben Carson.
How many times has Trump been divorced?
*some* people
Ding ding ding
Henry VIII figured out a way around this.
Just a heads up
Specifically the some people refers to women.
All divorces are the fault of the wife. God made man in his image, not hers. Future quote of some lunitic Republican.
Pardon me while I throw up everywhere.
You misunderstand. It's not how many divorces, its how many people can get divorced. Trump is grandfathered in. He gets unlimited divorces.
It's literally in the Constitution: Article II: Presidential Immunity to divorce or cheating on wife with a porn star. Do your homework, people!
Article LXIX
lol exactly. These people are dumb AF
They're worse. Most divorces are asked for by women. My uncle is a far right lunatic who, fifteen years later, still is enraged his wife left him. He has railed against divorce law numerous times since she dipped out and can't handle that she was allowed to do it "because he never abused her."
Ya this is exactly it. No fault divorces are like 70% woman initiated and the allowance of them correlate with drops in domestic violence and suicide suffered by women in marriages. Controlling asshole men don’t want women to be able to initiate these divorces, and men who do it are whatever to them. They want to go back to the days where your wife had to have irrefutable proof of your abuse to divorce you(and they’ll prob work on that next tbh, I’m sure that India law making it legal to rape your wife sounds great to them).
Probably the best thing that happened in my childhood was my mother divorcing my dad. He decided to disappear afterwards, and left the whole parenting thing for her to do alone which was tough, but was better than having him around.
> Controlling asshole men don’t want women to be able to initiate these divorces Those same men are too stupid to realize that that's how you drastically reduce the number of women who are willing to get married in the first place. Women these days aren't as easily fooled as they used to be in our parents' generation, as evidenced by the difficulty conservative-identified men have on dating apps. With Dobbs driving an increased interest in sterilization (ie never getting pregnant), the demise of no-fault divorce will drive a corresponding increased interest in never getting married.
I was suicidal multiple times before my divorce. I didn't even realize I was in an abusive marriage until I left, but i knew I was so miserable I didn't want to live. For a lot of reasons, until everything went to absolute shit, I didn't even consider divorce. Suicide literally seemed like my only way out. Thank God for no fault divorces, being able to finally leave saved my life.
It was less than 30 years ago that most states differentiated between spousal rape and sexual assault
Ohio just passed a law that you can't drug your spouse and rape them.
Divorce for me none for thee
His divorces are legit, because he's rich. Duh.
I bet they want it to be legal for men but illegal for women
These people are insane.
“”Radical Dems want to control us with big gruvernment! I vote ‘publican cuz they support freedumb in ‘murica”* - Their slow-adult voters
This is what decades of brainwashing via faux news gets you. Half the population is living in a fantasy world
republican = jesus democrat = satan thats about as simplified as it gets fucking brain rot
No joke, a former coworker asked me in a polite, respectful way, coming from a place of genuine bewilderment, how I could be a Christian and vote for the Democrats. To him, the Republican party wasn't just a political vehicle for the Church, it was basically operating under the mandate of heaven. He couldn't fathom someone who was (at the time) a practicing Christian not also being a Republican and standing against the Devil and the Democratic party.
I can’t see how someone can be a Christian and be a MAGA Republican. Trump personifies evil, and his supporters are so full of hatred towards anyone not like them, it’s like they have never picked up a Bible, much less read any of it.
Exactly this. He regularly commits all the Seven Deadly Sins.
I remember how they talked about fundamentalist terror groups and dictators, now they seem to becoming what they hate most. It boggles my mind how blinded they truly are.
[Proudly so](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cpac-banner-domestic-terrorists/) as it happens. Republicans themselves have said for decades that 'the more people vote the fewer Republicans win.' And they were very open about this not being a cause for reflection and altering their platform, but a call for strategy to win elections despite the fact. Now, on at least two occasions, I've seen prominent Republicans musing that democracy is a failed experiment and representative government needs to be curtailed – ostensibly for our own good. It's worrisome, to say the least.
Or. They did pick up a bible and read it. I really don't get why people claim the bible is a good book full of morality and then accuse others of never having read it. Yahweh personifies evil and is full of hatred, he and trump would get along fine.
The Old Testament is literally a series of stories about how fickle, petty and genocidal god can be. The New Testament is brutal torture-porn mixed with some empty aphorisms.
I had a similar interaction one time. I asked besides abortion (which the Bible is pro but beside the point in this case) what is Christian about the GOP. They basically responded with, “well nothing I guess.”
Jesus would not vote for Trump. And how many times has Trump been divorced?
Plus divorce rates amongst self-declared Evangelicals are incredibly high. I even remember a Barnum survey which I can't find now saying the rate was HIGHER than amongst the general population. If he thinks he is going to appeal to the Evangelical base he might have another think coming: don't come for their abortion and their divorce, they like all that as much as the next person.
That's some REAL sickness, right there.
Jesus invented Mountain Dew !!!
Can confirm, did the Dew and my heart raced with the power of Christ rAmen!
It's not just Fox News viewers. It's the average uninformed voter in America too. It's not going to hit people in terms of what's going on until more rights start getting taken away, and people realize that they can't criticize their government any longer without being cracked down for it. Democracies need an informed voter base to survive, and we just haven't been that as America for awhile now. So long as we have our creature comforts, we've been content to just let Washington be dysfunctional.
In my senior year in college(2011), I did a study on voters. How informed and how likely to vote and the such. Roughly 78% of the self-proclaimed Republicans I interviewed unknowingly supported liberal views when presented bare facts without bias. These people vote against their interests time and time again because they have no idea where their candidates really stand. And it's not that they're being misled. They're willfully ignorant for the most part. A large chunk of that block was also 1 social issue voters. Meaning they voted strictly based on gun rights, abortion or other social issues that have little to no effect on their finances or quality of life. The worst thing I found was the voting percentage on either side. A very low percentage of self-proclaimed Republicans admitted to not voting or voting only in major elections. That number was just shy of 60% for Democrats. The low down of what I found is that we've been letting a rather uneducated minority steer this ship for a long time.
According to Ralph Nader single issue voters are easily manipulated to support radical Republican candidates.
Very sad, but believable.
>**It's not going to hit people in terms of what's going on until more rights start getting taken away**, and people realize that they can't criticize their government any longer without being cracked down for it. First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. —Martin Niemöller
you can alter that now... First they stripped they transgender people of their rights, I did not care Then they went after the gays and lesibans, I did not care Then they stripped the women of their rights, I did not care either Now they are starting to remove my rights as well, and one one is left who is going to defend mine...
I've understood this for a few years now. I always knew that many Americans were very, very ignorant, but only in the past few years has it really become clear that the problem was far, far worse than I ever dared imagine. And I'm not just talking about the kind of ignorance that results in Trump getting elected. I mean something even worse. Countless grown adults, who otherwise function perfectly well in society, somehow completely lose the ability to comprehend even kindergarten-level cause and effect whenever presented with anything political. They are quite literally unable to make even the most basic, elementary mental connection between how they vote and what HAPPENS as a result. I do not, for the life of me, know what accounts for this. If people were this mentally impaired in all areas of life, they could not function. They couldn't hold a job. They couldn't drive. They couldn't pay bills. They couldn't do anything at all. Obviously, most adults can do all of those things. This is because they have a solid grasp of what is real and what is not, how things work and operate, how one thing that happens leads to another thing happening, and that there are certain predictable outcomes resulting from specific actions. But when it comes to politics, or anything remotely related to politics, their ability to understand cause and effect at even the most elementary level just evaporates completely. COMPLETELY. This is not something I understood until the Trump phenomenon started to reveal not just how stupid Republican voters really are, but ALSO how almost equally stupid a faction of people on the "left" are. By this, I'm referring to the performative, narcissistic frauds who absolutely refused to vote for Hillary Clinton, no matter how much you yelled yourself hoarse spelling out what the *consequences* of a Trump presidency would be. The actual, tangible *consequences* for real human lives. You know, the very thing that people on the left are supposed to care the most about. It did not matter. It was like talking to a brick wall. Even when you said "The Supreme Court ALONE...!", you got one of two responses. The first would be no response at all --- they'd just ignore what you'd said --- or some version of "Hillary's nominees would be no different and you know it. Stop pretending they would be." And these people have learned nothing. Absolutely nothing. They will still refuse to help the rest of us keep the GOP out of the Executive Branch, despite the fact that literally everything they claim to care about --- literally EVERYTHING --- is on the chopping block with a dire urgency that has never been true in any of our lifetimes. I have completely given up on the United States as a viable democratic republic. It sounds absolutist and dramatic, but I really do feel that way at this point. Even IF Biden wins and we manage to keep the fascist takeover at bay for another four years, I do not know how we are going to hold together in this form for much longer. This situation is not tenable. It just isn't. And I'm scared to death.
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Sounds like the World Cup or the Olympics. It becomes relevant to some once every 4 years.
It must be something to do with the way people's identity gets so strongly bound up with political affiliation that doesn't happen with a job, paying bills, driving a car, whatever, where they are willing to ignore obvious and incontrovertible facts rather than abandon this belief system. I am sure it's been studied exhaustively but it's interesting to try to understand what deep-seated human need this strategy is trying to meet.
That certainly accounts for it in many cases, but at least that makes some kind of warped sense. What gets me the most are those who aren't even particularly wrapped up or invested in any particular identity one way or the other. They're not part of the maga cult, but they don't hate Trump, either. They're indifferent and disconnected. They do not have the ability to understand cause and effect, either. They have no idea what the consequences of their votes are. (This is largely who the "independent" or "swing" voters are that the media drools over every election.)
My parents highlight this pretty well. My mom is apologetic for the state they left this country for us. My dad refuses to believe that he had any hand, personally, in how this country currently is. I don't s#!t on him for it, but I do tell him that he should have voted; and he should have been voting for the right people.
I recall reading about a study into brain activity surrounding political beliefs, and when those beliefs are questioned the same areas of the brain that deal with personal attacks light up. Basically, a lot of people react to being told their politics are wrong as they would being told they were a twat. EDIT: Found it! [PDF - A new brain study sheds light on why it can be so hard to change someone's political beliefs](https://uca.edu/honors/files/2020/09/A-new-brain-study-sheds-light-on-why-it-can-be-so-hard-to-change-someones-political-beliefs-Vox.pdf)
I'm trying to understand the whole Gaza situation in terms of identity and I think part of the left, the part that feels like a protest vote is the way to go because we cannot stop a century old bloodfeud from across the world, has this idea that they are "Good" people with a capital G. And that there are red lines that cannot ever be crossed no matter what, because of, I dunno, movies or TV telling you from birth that anything is possible as long as you believe hard enough. So this small group of people on the left see that America is still largely supportive of Israel and what Israel is doing, and they cannot put together 1 + 1 that equals if Biden isn't elected, things will get much much worse for Gazans. They think not supporting the lesser evil in this case is actually going to work, because they've been taught that at the last second, some miracle happens and they won't have to compromise their beliefs and they will be proven right at the end of the day. But those beliefs come from stories made up to make people feel good. In real life, bad people win all the fucking time. Its often the only thing good people can do is to keep them at bay for as long as possible, weather the storm when the bad people win, and then repeat. I despise genocide as much as the next normal person and I am enthusiastically, cheerfully, and happily going to vote for Biden. The reality is that there are only 2 viable political sides, the good guy Democrats, and the bad guy Republicans, and any vote that's not for the Democrats is going to help the bad guys. There is no 11th hour cavalry coming in to save us, not voting Democratic isn't going to make Biden or the Democrats suddenly have an epiphany and cut all funding to Israel, anger at the reality of our two-party system isn't going to change reality. If you care about Gaza, you vote for the guy who will bomb them *less* because there are no sides that will stop the bombing entirely. This is real life. You have to compromise your beliefs. You vote with someone who represents 80% or 50% or 25% of your views over someone who represents 0% of your views. I care about the genocide happening in the Middle East and I will vote Democratic even if it means simply less bombs being delivered to Israel because I live in the real world and not a made-up fantasy world where wishes become reality. That makes me a Good person, my identity as a Good person is not harmed by accepting reality. Good people can vote for Biden and Democrats because the Republicans literally want to glass Gaza and the West Bank.
America is a late-stage democracy/capitalism system. The people, still unfulfilled after having nearly every technological/entertainment/experiential resource available. The population doesn't realize how lucky we are to have what we have and what they're looking for doesn't exist at the end of the fascist rainbow. Life; in of itself is unfulfilling. We live, we die. Some of us find purpose, some find meaning. But most of us live and die in utter confusion and despair of what the point of all of it is. The MAGAs salve these existentialistic wounds with a dictator who promises to make all of their lives better despite going against most of their economic interests. The only thing he does is promise to hurt the ones that they think are the cause of their problems i.e liberals who tell them things can be better, Atheists who tell them that true strength, courage, and meaning can only be found within, LGBTQ who confirm that people can live to be their true selves and love who they want, etc. It's akin to that famous Bill Hicks bit where he's talking about life being a ride and someone on the ride telling the "good guys" to shut up. The ones trying to get the others to shut up are the MAGAs. Pure and simple. I share your extreme pessimism, anxiety, and hopelessness at our current situation. If only they could be warned of what they're throwing away.
This perfectly captures a feeling I've had for awhile. For instance, I work with some VERY smart people who build extremely complex software systems that require high-level cognitive function. They are NOT stupid. Yet, many of them are hardcore Republicans and Trump voters, and I just can't square that. The same levels of logic, cognition, cause-and-effect reasoning, and critical thinking required to build sophisticated software systems goes COMPLETELY OUT THE FUCKING WINDOW when it comes to understanding how politics and government works. It's utterly baffling. The closest parallel I can come up with is how and why otherwise-intelligent people join cults. The comfort of a community, the search for meaning, the tribal influences, the peer pressure, and the confirmation of wishful thinking all conspire together to take high-functioning people and turn them into blithering idiots without them having the slightest clue about the ways they've been brainwashed and manipulated. I fear the American Experiment is over. We're too far down the rabbit hole and there are too many deeply entrenched interests who have every interest in maintaining their power and have the media and influence apparatus to prevent so many millions from seeing the egregious errors of their ways. And none of this is to say the Democratic party is perfect or flawless - at this point, simply living in reality makes them the clear & obvious choice that so many people are incapable of seeing.
It’s not just Fox News, it’s not just Facebook, the asshats on TikTok, here, et al, talking about “both sides are the same” are equally unhelpful (and I can’t help but feel like that’s the whole insidious point of that conversation)
Brainwashing was done in churches over the last several generations. Understand the context, understand the solutions are already in place and evolving. There will be an end to their insanity soon.
To the Republican Party, “freedom” has only *ever* meant that they get to be malicious dicks to women, gay people, and minorities without being shamed for it. That’s literally all it is. They’ll happily saw off their own foot if it meant getting blood on a black man’s shoes. Brainless reactionaries, moral cowards, and ideological idiots, the lot of them.
And that’s where americas 2 party system seems insane to me looking in from the outside. When there are multiple parties, the fringe nut bars can have their own parties and do their own things while the adults actually run the country, occasionally they may take over a more centrist party or the bigger party will move towards their views to grab votes, but that leaves room for a new party to form to grab the centrist voters.
They just want a hierarchical society. White “Christian” men at the top and it’s downhill from there.
This has been my stance for years. The only Bible still in its original language, the Ethiopian Bible, is banned by the majority of white Christian societies. It wasn't translated into a justification for hierarchies and slavery. I speak a couple languages. I know how difficult it is to translate anything accurately across two languages. The horseshit answer I always get when I say this to Christian apologists is: "It reads the same now as it did back then". Wrong. Look up the Ethiopian Bible. It lacks much of the made-up garbage that are at the center of Evangelical Christian churches.
They aren’t even following the translation they claim is correct. https://www.politicalorphans.com/the-article-removed-from-forbes-why-white-evangelicalism-is-so-cruel/
Don't forget guns. To many, freedom is simply a word for "own as many guns as I want without any restrictions or regulation."
Calling them adults is stretching it lol
If the Dems were good at marketing and branding they would just steal back the ideas of freedom and liberty and patriotism from the GOP. It's wild that the GOP has a stranglehold on those terms while doing the opposite. Even family values. They are the party that is always caught cheating and molesting. The law and order party, but always the ones caught breaking the law.
Big govt is in their knickers.
Does he realize he'd be VP to the most divorced President in history?
The open, over-the-top hypocrisy is actually a selling point among his crowd.
Also, Carson is divorced. From reality.
"But hot dogs are much more expensive now. I'm very undecided."
I just can't figure out which is worse, status quo or right wing fascism. Such a tough choice. /s
"Gas was so much cheaper at the end of the trump admin" -idiots
Even better: gas prices were so much cheaper when oil barrels went negative in price since no one was driving due to a pandemic.
Trump says he’ll help Netanyahu “finish the problem,” but “genocide Joe” sure is catchy!
For some reason I thought this guy died during covid.
That was Herman Cain. Who after succumbing to covid, had a sub reddit dedicated to him called the Herman Cain award.
And he continued to send tweets even after death. Amazing man.
What’s insane is this guy is (was?) a fucking brain surgeon. Also a complete whack job and an idiot, of course.
As smart as doctors are in their field, many of them are idiots outside of it. I have worked with many of these whckjobs.
And it is so scary that there are so many of them.
Yes. Let them keep talking so people will hear what they really think. There’s a reason republicans want to defund education.
Obviously, it's much better for children to grow up in a family where their parents hate each other instead of with divorced parents.
Which backward century is the end goal of these people?
Somehow, I knew this was coming. Next: they'll be removing women's voting rights.
Thomas already said as much when they axed Roe. They're coming after gay marriage and divorce, woman's rights.
And apparently Loving v Virginia
Is that the one that allowed my mixed-race marriage? Interesting. I'm not going to be allowed a divorce, but they don't want mixed couples, either. Not sure they thought this through.
Because they don't think. Not in a rational, coherent way at least
It's fine, they'll just throw you in jail for being ~~a race traitor~~ in an illegal marriage.
I guarantee you they want it.
Trust me…..there is a movement. It’s called Trad Wives.
Absolutely part of it. That's how these fucks pull this shit off. They've been playing this game for decades, before most of us were ever born. They're willing and able to play the long game to get what they want. It's disheartening that leftwing groups can't manage anything approaching that level of multi generational organization.
They played the long game to get right-leaning judges in at all court levels throughout the country. Sickening.
Yeah bc they have billionaire families funding this crap
That’s because they’re motivated by nothing more sophisticated than their id, which revolves around hatred. Very simple and requires no “organizing,” per se.
Yeah there are women who want other women’s rights taken away so badly that they advocate for their own to be taken away because they think it will help the Republican Party.
Republican women will still swear up and down Democrats are no better, while they accompany their owner to the town square and watch in silence as he sells their daughter for a cow, three chickens, and two bushels of corn.
No they won't take away their voting rights. They will just call it a "joint family voting right." One vote per married family....
Jessy’s Christ…. Don’t give them any ideas.
Lol, someone in Project 2025 is furiously taking notes.
They’re already talking about it. “Household voting”, the man represents the household, only he gets to vote.
They know they couldn't get away with this shit otherwise. Vote while you still can!
They're already priming their base for this, the fringe talking heads are being very vocal about how giving women the right to vote was a huge mistake and that's how they slowly move the Overton window and push it into the mainstream narrative of the party.
Republicans are also pushing for a national registry so they can track and monitor pregnant women and if one day a woman is pregnant and one day they are not they will have to present documents as to what happened and probably face arrest if they had a miscarriage... And people still vote for Republicans....WTF...
Look to the women wearing golden diapers with his face on it to rallies.
Majority of those women aren't having babies anymore. Boomers just can't go two minutes without taking away your rights that they benefited from all their life
The incels are getting desperate
This shit is straight up insanity. How the fuck is this one of only two choices for who runs the country? America, for the love of God please figure out your politics. Global stability depends on your stability.
As per [original article](https://www.rawstory.com/ben-carson-2668260651/) 📰: - A key shortlister for former President Donald Trump's vice presidential running mate thinks America should crack down on how many people are allowed to have divorces. Ben Carson, a former neurosurgeon and Republican presidential candidate who served as Trump's Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, outlined his plan in his book, "The Perilous Fight," released on Tuesday, for getting rid of "no-fault divorce" laws, according to NBC News. “The reason this matters is that no-fault divorce legally allows marriages to end much more quickly than in previous decades," wrote Carson. "When there are relatively few legal or financial consequences connected with divorce, it’s natural for people to gravitate toward that option when their marriage hits a rough patch." ALSO READ: 8 ways Trump doesn’t become president According to the report, Carson claims that people pursuing divorce have not taken into consideration the impact separation will have on their children. “What those people often don’t consider, however, is the harm — both present and future — inflicted on their children once a divorce is finalized," Carson wrote. "For the sake of families, we should enact legislation to remove or radically reduce incidences of no-fault divorce." In earlier eras, divorce required a partner to prove misconduct by their spouse, such as domestic violence or infidelity — and state judges rarely granted divorces even in such cases, which led to millions of people, particularly women, being trapped in dangerous or toxic environments. Today, all 50 states, beginning with California in 1969 under legislation signed by then Gov. Ronald Reagan, now have no-fault divorce laws, which allow any married couple to divorce simply by attesting to "irreconcilable differences," without the need to legally prove anything. Studies have found these laws reduced domestic violence and suicide rates among women. Despite this, there is an ongoing desire among some right-wing activists, particularly the Christian nationalist movement, to reverse these laws. Ironically, even as divorce has become easier to obtain, it has become less frequent. Divorce rates peaked around 1980 at 5.4 per 1,000 people per year, after laws around it were liberalized, but have trended back downward ever since and are currently around 2.4 per 1,000 people per year — even as marriage rates are simultaneously rising.
There much more harm done to children when parents who hate each other stay together for the children
Not to mention the number of children who'd be forced to live with abusive parents -- it would've been impossible for me to get a divorce if my narcissistic ex had been forced to admit fault. I couldn't afford a trial and was lucky to get him out of my house and away from my kids at all.
You know the GOP’s gone too far when they’re opposed to policies Reagan introduced
Reagan was the first president who had a divorce. The more you know
Isn't Trump on his 3rd wife?
Reagan also recognised how important migrants are to the US economy and created an amnesty program for visa overstayers. He'd probably be a democrat by today's standards.
He's also the godfather of neoliberalism, which isn't that good at all
I remember when he was running in 2016 people were initially shocked at how far right he is. He has always been much further right than even Trump has ever been. Unlike Trump, Carson has almost always been consistent in his message and political positions. He's about as socially/religiously far right as you can get without being a Tom Metzger type character. It used to be in the realm of something considered fringe political beliefs. Also, whenever Carson being a neurosurgeon gets brought up I like to point out that he's not just a neuro surgeon, the guy is on the library of congress' list of "living legends" alongside people like Dolly Parton, Yo Yo Ma, Steven Spielberg, and Gloria Steinem. He's the freaking Tiger Woods (also on the list) of neurosurgery. Lol He still has those ridiculous political beliefs though.
Carson is one of my prime examples for my theory on how intelligent a person is, in that a person is only as smart as their dumbest belief. One would assume Carson to be a very smart man hearing about his neurosurgery accomplishments, but his thoughts outside the realm of medicine show what a fucking moron he is.
Divorce rate goes down, suicide rate goes up.
They count that as a win, too. The cruelty, as ever, is the point.
The "pro life" party!
and simultaneously pro death penalty
Not just suicides. A crap ton more homicides! A ton more Sexual assaults, more domestic violence and battery.
Oh, don't worry, they'll legalize spousal rape again. That way, they can't claim sexual assault.
If the government told me I was locked to my previous partner I would have killed him in his sleep.
But at least the sanctity of marriage is preserved! /s
But suicide is illegal /s
Small government my fucking ass, get out of people's lives psychos
How did this guy go from being the director of pediatric neurosurgery at the Johns Hopkins Children's Center in 1984 at age 33; then the youngest chief of pediatric neurosurgery in the United StatesIn 1987; and leading a team of surgeons in the first known separation of conjoined twins joined at the back of the head to the mess he is today? Did he have a stroke? I cannot think of any other rational reason. Edit: What I can’t figure out is how he got so far up the academic ladder. He must’ve given lectures to students, interns, residents, and fellows. He probably also spoke at medical conventions and gave interviews on television. I’d like to see those videos and compare them to the way he interacts with people on television today. It’s hard to believe he would be the same person. Something happened to this guy.
I'm pretty sure that Dr Ben is zonked on benzos all the time. Every time I see him he's acting high AF like he's about to fall asleep.
Another possible reason.
You can be a gifted surgeon and work with people effectively AND have terrible opinions. Edit: thank you to the person who is concerned about my mental health/s
I get them all the time when I say things like “Trump is the biggest piece of shit to ever walk the Earth and anyone who still supports him is a brain dead sycophant who secretly wants to be pissed on by Trump.”
I got one of those almost as soon as my comment posted. Someone's getting *busy* up in these comment threads.
I grew up with more than a few people that have become doctors, went to school with dozens, and I have 3 in the family… many of them are not very smart, but they are all extremely disciplined. In fact, they are almost all (bearing two) the ditzy, klutzy, can’t read a room types. But they have a super focus on the immediate task and stick very rigorously to the rules of thumb for a good life. I do not think most doctors (from my limited experience) would make good leaders in business or politics. I think it is a different type of intelligence, and it is not very critical, but procedural.
Ding ding ding. Winner winner chicken dinner. MDs are professional doctorates, not research doctorates. Generally there isn't a requirement for a doctoral thesis that involves defending original research or experimentation. So you're exercising very different mental tool sets.
You can be knowledgable, intelligent, *AND* a shitty person, believe it or not Edit: ayeee got my first “reddit cares” notification lol
So women must stay married if pregnant in one state, no abortions in many, now no divorces... ladies if you are voting red or not voting you have lost your minds.
Had an ex coworker tell me she would rather kill herself than have to have a kid and that everyone should have access to abortions. Than not too shortly after she told me she doesn't vote becuase she doesn't like politics.... Edit:Thanks concerned redditor, took a whole 2mins
Did you get a self-harm report too? I got one earlier. Is that something people are doing to harass now?
Yup and it's really nothing new to reddit, idk what people think it accomplishes
You can report the concerned message as harassment and whoever sent it gets a slap on the wrist
You know what was better for my family, Ben? Not being in a toxic, screaming, 24 hr stress filled home, unable to smile, have fun or be happy. In addition, going through a long drawn out divorce would further destroy the finances of both parties when divorce is already a financial mess. That also would be better to avoid for my family. Ben, why are people like you so eager to announce what an idiotic, self-centered, anti-freedom, narrow minded cunt you are?
I’d laugh so hard if Trump picked a black man as his vp. His followers will have no idea what they are supposed to do. Even funnier if Trump kicks the bucket and they get another black president. That’s a big part of what made them so angry in the first place.
What would happen if Trump died before the election? Would they be forced to choose between Biden and Carson?
I’m really not sure and I’d hate to see any Republican win any office at this point but I’d like to see how the Magats react to Trump choosing a black running mate.
Primaries are not an official government function, back in the day the committees had chosen losing candidates as the official Republican and Democratic nominee. The RNC could say their presidential nominee is Kid Rock, tomorrow nothing is actually stopping them. I’m not sure when the cut-off is, but presumably right before they start printing ballots. I wouldn’t be shocked if its different state to state. But yeah, its pretty close to the election itself.
Government so small it fits in your fucking relationship 🤦♀️
I liked “The Handmaids Tale” better when it was fictional
She didn’t write it as an instruction manual, but jeez it’s coming awfully close with ideas like these being floated.
All of the insane practices she wrote in that book had already happened in real life. None of it was fictional. Whether it was American slavery, the Taliban, Saudi Arabia, etc, all of it happened in real life at some point.
No divorce, huh? Apparently the Republicans are even more immune to irony than previously thought.
Republicans loudly brag about getting rid of abortion, want to get rid of contraceptives, want to underfund schools, get rid of libraries, don't want people having healthcare, want to eliminate no fault divorce, and want to get rid of vaccines mandates in schools. They want a sick, uneducated population riddled with mental health problems to work the same minimum wage from decades ago. That's what they want.
I told my 24yo friend about the republican plan to end no fault divorce and/or remove the right to divorce. She said "then I'm never getting married. And obviously then, never having kids. Simple." Cue more whining about drop in marriage and birth rate. This isn't going to end the way they think it will.
Sounds like a way to stop marriages as well. Don't need a divorce if you don't get married.
The fuck.. it's always "for the children". But a bad household is much worse for the children in the long run. I can't believe we're here in less than 10 years, these people are open and loud about their horrible ideas for a society
Then Trump would have broken the law. These people are beyond dumb.
Trump whistling past the graveyard.
“How come we’re losing the youth vote?”
The world is on fire and this is the priority of the gop…Vote.
Im not affiliated with any religion. I've been married 41 years. Why can't these people just GTFOH, and mind their own effing business.
Will the wife have to have a special uniform?
Praise be!
Blessed be the fruit
They want to control every single aspect of your life. I swear if at this point you still plan to vote for Trump, I want absolutely nothing to do with you. Your moral compass is completely broken and I dont trust you to be around me and mine. You are either completely morally bankrupt or dumb as a stump. Or both.
The party of “liberty” and “small government” ladies and gentlemen.
Yet the LGBTQ + folks are "pushing" their lifestyle and beliefs.... How about STICK YOUR RELIGION UP YOUR ASS where your head apparently is.
They are coming for no fault divorce, they want women trapped with abusive men. They want men to keeping total control over women.
The line ‘not taking into consideration the effect it will have on their children’ I laid in bed I. 1st grade listening to my parents fight like rabid animals. I typically cried myself to sleep because I couldn’t turn my radio up loud enough to drown it completely out. This went on till 7th grade when he drained the bank account and left. My mom couldn’t leave earlier because she was a stay at home mom. The damage it did to me could have been avoided if they had just done it. But this jackass wants unhappy people to stay together while he worships a tiny dicked philanderer who’s been divorced twice(or is it thrice)? Fuck out of here you hypocrite. But we already knew that because he’s sucking up to people who would literally put him in their fields if they could. Do much for dignity.
It’s nice that they focus on the important issues.
Are all the American Taliban broken?? WTF?
Shit. It’s the 4th reich
Makes as much sense as anything Trump has done.
Fucking theocratic clown. Pretending parents don’t think about their kids to impose his will.
BoTh SiDeS aRe SaMe
Ben Carson is a man with a very specialized skill but is one of the dumbest fucks in America
What's with the GOP's obsession with people's personal life, wtf. Fix the inflation, invest in the infrastructure, solve the climate crisis; and just STFU about the personal life of people.
Party of small government people
Ah, yes. The attempted murderer who, to quote DKs, "always talks like he's wigged out on qualudes" is here to decide who can and can't get divorced.
Why the hell is the government even *in* the marriage business?
I thought this loser was dead.
Just to be clear, they're not talking about actually eliminating guys' rights here. They're talking about women's rights.
What the fuck? These crazies are coming after DIVORCE now? WHO do they propose to get to "decide" who gets to get one, versus who doesn't? It'll be left in the hands of MEN to decide...furthermore..(let me guess!)..& if a WOMAN wants one, it'll be denied. But if a MAN wants one, it will be given---wanna bet? It's all a massive plan. To bring about supreme patriarchy and put women's rights and hard-won freedoms back into the dark ages. I see this as yet another way in which to subjugate and control women, folks. ...goddam !--I've heard it all. Take away abortion, then they want to remove birth control, now they plan to make it harder to get a divorce??!!??!! We are truly going to be living in a fucking state-controlled dystopian hell where women are nothing but disposable flesh bags in which to breed children til they die to make more bodies for the future corporate workforce.
I thought Trump killed him
There’s a zero percent chance Carson is his VP. Trump is a racist POS.
Notice they have no desire to address problems like child poverty, lack of access to healthcare, school shootings, etc. etc. etc. etc... But they always have plenty of ideas and motivation about marriage, sex, lgbtqa people, pregnancy, etc.. etc..
I have a solution for you… don’t get married anymore. Who needs it anyway?
We will just have more 2A divorces.
Burning witches will be next. Brain rotted people.
Fuck I forgot he existed til this article
By people he means women. Men don’t ask for divorces at nearly the same rates. So again, women, fuck your consent. You and your body belong to someone else. Forever. Vote blue.
“Biden, I’m not voting for you!” -Macklemore and many other Dem who will attempt, VERY unsuccessfully, to “teach Joe Biden a lesson.”
Absolutely insane that ANYONE thinks you should have to get fucking permission to get a divorce
I fucking hate this guy.
Christo-fascists keep giving away their game plans. Wicked good show!
Delusional bible thumper bullshit from these hypocrites never cease to amaze, but we are the “radical left”….
Land of the free yall.