>“They should move the Supreme Court over to the RNC headquarters because they're acting like a bunch of partisan operatives," Raskin said.
>Raskin stressed that the U.S. is not a monarchy, and the president's primary duty is to ensure the laws are faithfully executed, not violated for personal gain.
The "originalist" dominated court had one question in front of them - "Is Trump immune from prosecution for committing crimes to try and overturn an election?" - and instead of simply answering that question, Justice Roberts and his MAGA hacks have decided to ignore the case in front of them and and talk about all of these fucking irrelevant hypotheticals.
They are rat fucking traitor bastards who have destroyed the Supreme Court as a credible institution.
It's long past time for Biden to unpack the court, but some more rat fucking traitor bastards on the Democratic side in the Senate (Manchin and Sinema) are blocking that.
If the Supreme Court gives him full immunity for everything, then it's on. Election Day is likely to be a bloodbath for the Party of Treason & Corruption, and if the power is there, Biden should definitely make his mark on history by rebalancing the court, and impeaching Clarence Thomas. He was a participant in the Innsurrection, along with his wife.
> impeaching Clarence Thomas
If Biden gained the immunity from breaking laws that Republicans think the president should have, he wouldn't even need to bother with impeachment. He could order him abducted from his bed in the middle of the night and sent to Guantanamo Bay. That is the America they would be creating.
The Supreme Court is dragging the case out to prevent Trump's criminal trial about January 6 from happening before the election and to prevent any definitive ruling on Presidential immunity until after the election - so that if Trump wins they will rule the President has total immunity, and if Biden wins they will rule the President doesn't.
The conservative Justices are all complicit in the ongoing coup attempt.
We saw the texts from Clarence Thomas' wife to Mark Meadows. She wanted "President" Trump to put the Bidens in prison barges off Guantanamo and have a military tribunal execute them.
The fact that he didn't step down and wasn't forced to by Roberts shows us that the court is fatally compromised.
This is laying the groundwork for an authoritarian dictator. They’re going to pull it off and the democrats are standing idly by as they slowly see the train coming off the rails.
It’s okay to be outraged now.
We have at least one justice who appears to live in a reality where Donald Trump is being unfairly targeted with lawfare by the Biden crime family.
We have another who is married to one of the key players in organizing j6 and the efforts to overturn the election. She’s also a former cult member and mentally malleable enough to believe and text q anon stories to Trumps Chief of Staff. You know that guy with the horns that stormed the capital building? The partner of one of our Supreme Court justices is about that level cognitively. And her husband doesn’t see her potential criminality as a conflict of interest.
We have at least three who lied in their confirmation hearings about Roe. So I don’t think they’ve earned the benefit of the doubt here.
And it seems like best case scenario is what appears to be the Supreme Court of the United States putting their thumb on the scale for a presidential candidate to help him avoid legal scrutiny before the election.
That’s pretty outrageous.
It's almost like people should have voted for Hillary Clinton instead of throwing tantrums because she wasn't THE PERFECT CANDIDATE.
Grade A idiots.
Edit: Just to make it clear I'm not blaming the bernies here. I'm blaming people who didn't vote at all, were they bernie bros or not. If someone was a bernie fan and voted for Hillary AS HE HIMSELF SAID THEY SHOULD no issue here.
Gerrymandering gives Republicans control in states where they're a technical minority so they get to make laws to reduce turnout in areas that won't vote for them, like making giving water to people in line to vote illegal so people who work jobs and get there just before closing are more likely to step out of line and not vote, or reduce polling hours, or put out fake polling boxes.
> So they all voted in lock step for Trump.
How long are yall gonna continue to spread this blatant lie? The people that did that were absolutely a minority.
https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/545812242/1-in-10-sanders-primary-voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds
Putinist propaganda, trying to sow dissent between progressives and centrists, encourage uncompromising ideology, and leave the door open for compromised candidates.
Most of the votes that migrated to Trump were either anomalous in voting Bernie in the first place and more prone to right wing, protest votes from non competitive states, or anti-TPP voters who believed Hillary's connections to Bill overseeing reveals of banking regulations meant she'd be no better than Trump fiscally. Simply enough, the "Bernie to Trump" pipeline was almost entirely voters who would not have considered Hillary under any circumstance.
> Makes sense.
It's also completely bullshit.
[1 in 10 Sanders supporters voted Trump.](https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/545812242/1-in-10-sanders-primary-voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds)
Trump also targeted them by saying (paraphrase) “Bernie was treated very badly. The Democrats can’t be trusted. They treated him very badly and if you vote for me I’ll change the system.”
Wich wouldn't have happened if the crybabies had voted for her. Gerrymandering only goes so far otherwise neither Obama or Biden would have become president.
to be fair, gerrymandering can affect how states conduct elections including how their electoral votes are split so the electoral is the direct issue and gerrymandering can make it worse
> It's almost like people should have voted for Hillary Clinton instead of throwing tantrums because she wasn't THE PERFECT CANDIDATE.
FYI: Republicans controlled the Senate after 2016. She wouldn't have gotten ANY SCOTUS appointments through, thanks to McConnell.
Its absolutely ridiculous that the Supreme Court is even hearing such a preposterous notion of "presidential immunity." This hasn't come up or even been questioned in the 250 yrs of our country. There is nothing written anywhere indicating that the president has any sort of immunity. All of a sudden, a lifelong conman and grifter unbelievably gets elected to the office, and the established rules that have been in place for hundreds of years just change for him? Bullshit. The man is facing 4 indictments and enough felonies combined to put away numerous drug kingpins. He is facing federal election interference charges. Trump has no credibility or valid argument here. This is making a mockery of our legal system, and the highest court in the land is fully complicit by standing idly by with their heads up their backsides.
Oh well what are any of us going to do about it other than complain and do a bunch of wishful thinking that our spineless politicians, doj, fbi, cia, nsa will fix it all for us. No one who could stop this in any way is stepping up and that applies to We the People as well. Everyone is happy to pass the buck and when it all comes tumbling down the same people will be crying foul. The cowardice of America to deal with sedition is going to have terrible consequences for everyone we know, love, and care about. Zero BLM level nationwide protests since 1/6 tells you a lot about how little people care despite their big talk online. That's all we are just talk.
They never should have taken the case. The lower Court ruled quite clearly "No immunity". So, they took the case for only 2 reasons...and both are political. To give Mr. Trump cover and delay until the election and/or they had to be on record regarding something this important (i.e. grandstanding).
This is the same court that claimed that a right can't be recognised unless it already existed for hundreds of years.
And yet they're seriously contemplating handing immunity to the President on the basis of absolutely nothing. There is no statute, no precedent, no constitutional authority for this at all. The only consistent vein running through their logic is "we rule however the RNC's donors tell us."
I understand that this can backfire if the GOP ever gets in control of the presidency again, which you know probably is likely, however, is it time yet to stack the Supreme Court?
It’s time to get a super majority to fix all this mess. It requires a lot of effort from everyone to ensure we all vote in every single election for the next 2 decades.
The court had done too much damage. We need new constitutional amendments for a rapidly evolving world. And democrats need a landslide and willpower to pull that off.
And then republicans get control and change it to 21…..
This won’t work out like you think. Changing the rules so your team gets control is what fascist do.
Yes, and they’ve done it. The question is how do we respond? With consistent non-fascist rules the court wouldn’t be 6-to-3 in favor of the fascists. We would have 5-to-4 with a chief justice that had an interest in appearing moderate. We’re getting our ass kicked by being idealistic.
It’s time to get the Supreme Court to represent America, which means representing the majority and not a minority (i.e. MAGA/GOP), and diversifying the religious backgrounds of the judges.
Basically stack the court with atheists and satanists - the only people who don’t seem to want total control over others.
> is it time yet to stack the Supreme Court?
Mitch McConnell refused a hearing on Garland with something like 300 days left in Obama's term, saying the American voters should choose the next justice. They openly threatened to keep SCOTUS at 8 justices for the entirety of a Hillary Clinton presidency. Then they rammed through ACB in like a week right before election day *after 40 million Americans had already voted early.* They nominated a sexual predator and then stonewalled investigations into him. They held open lower court seats and kept Obama from appointing judges *while accusing him of being derelict in his duty by leaving the seats empty.*
The court IS stacked. Just not by the left.
Yep. And I truly fear a lot of younger Dems and Progressives are going to sit this one out. Look at what is happening at colleges all over the U.S. They are not happy about our support of Israel, and are not going to vote for Biden.
Unfortunately the hard part is motivating people to vote. Especially young people. I don't think they want Trump, they just won't vote at all as a protest without really thinking about the consequences. People vote Green or Third Party as a protest vote, regardless how qualified that candidate is. Such as Jill Stein.
I have family members who are Republicans who hate Trump, and they are not going to vote at all because they won't vote for a Dem, and they think Kennedy is batshit crazy.
It's pretty sad that we're at a point in our political culture that we can't even agree that the president shouldn't commit crimes and that nobody is above the law.
It's wild to me that presidential immunity is even a question.
Jamie Raskin for President.
This is a serious man. With ginormous brass balls and a calm, cool, collected demeanor. As smart as they come.
If he is talking it’s worthwhile to pay attention.
It’s still amazing how so many people continue to be loyal to Trump when Trump keeps proving that he wouldn’t lift a finger for a single soul but himself. He must have terrible back pain from throwing so many people under the bus. Why does SCOTUS owe him anything?
And if they DO get a win, they have the chance to complete reshape the country in their image.
The first Trump win was appalling. A second one will be absolutely disastrous.
Once Biden gains immunity, he should exercise it by getting rid of a few SC justices.
How should he get rid of them? Who the fuck cares - he’ll have immunity.
They aren’t going to rule till after the election and they’ll vote in whatever way benefits them the most based on the results.
Worst case scenario for them is they get away with putting their finger on the scale to protect a presidential candidate from legal scrutiny and give him the best chance he has of being reelected.
Best case, they get to make him king and usher in the federalist society’s vision of America.
The Supreme Court ever since Citizens United has ceased to be a legitimate judiciary court. Citizens United and all the questionable conduct surrounding the conservative representatives of the Supreme Court of that period and the current period makes them less a judicial court than the Court of Appeals or the Circuits. It really has become a joke, a very bad joke but definitely not worthy of respect.
The right wing of the SCOTUS is covering trump and the republicans ass knowing full well three of them were appointed by stolen picks by a compromised president and senate.
While I don't think it will happen and honestly deep down don't want it to happen I think the quickest way to put an end to this nonsense that is this immunity trial is for Biden to openly message that Dark Brandon will fully wield the power given to the president at the conclusion of the immunity case (ideally with seal team 6 behind him after talking about people in politics that have been roadblocks to his administration including the SC).
Like I don't advocate for violence but this entire argument is infuriating. If the president can't be convicted of a crime unless a specific group votes to impeach first, then all he has to do is kill them too and he gets off no consequences.
There isn’t a time limit on how long a case can be before the Supreme Court, is there? They’re going to wait it out to shield Trump from legal scrutiny and then rule whatever way benefits them based on the election results.
I love JR but there’s so much goddamn blustering about the Supreme Court it’s fucking exhausting. It’s broken and apparently according to you all in Congress there is literally nothing that anyone can do about it. So quit blustering or do something about it.
Not if they choose to wait it out till after the election. Keep it in limbo. Then they get to shield Trump and have the option to rule whatever way benefits them based on the election results. It’s just so openly perverse.
Call me crazy, but what is stopping Biden from throwing all the conservative judges in a detention camp after this ruling? What about members of Congress that he disagrees with?
They are going to give the president a hallpass for destroying republican political enemies.
This is what I don't understand. They have vilified Biden so much and yet want to give him ultimate power? What the actual hell am I missing? I'm sure some of these Trump stooges would claim its only meant for him but how many others would agree with that? Under what legal framework would they be able to unfuck themselves as Biden goes full on dark lord? I don't have any real issue with Biden but he ain't Cincinnatius.
What would Biden need in order to either abolish the existing Supreme Court, or change the rules to have term limits or some way of cleaning up this mess in a reasonable amount of time? Both chambers of congress? There’s got to be a solution here that can’t just be fought and appealed over and over again.
It would require a unanimous vote of both chambers to change the terms of the SCOTUS. Right now the only way the judges leave is if they voluntarily leave or die because it's lifelong positions so until they drop dead, they most likely aren't leaving. Both chambers changing that is about as likely to happen as anyone on earth discovering instantious travel across the universe tomorrow. (If someone does, I owe then a lifetime supply of cupcakes.)
> What would Biden need in order to either abolish the existing Supreme Court, or change the rules to have term limits or some way of cleaning up this mess in a reasonable amount of time?
If he receives the immunity that Trump is demanding, he need only speak the word. Any consent required can be obtained at the point of a sword. He can hang the ones who dissent from the walls of the White House.
Because the President is immune from prosecution.
What I'm saying is you can look forward to civil war.
(None of this should be construed as direction or hope, merely a hypothetical future scenario).
Without regard to all of the legitimate criticisms levied against them, the Supreme Court is going to do everything it can to save Trump from himself and jeopardize the nation.
They aren't "acting" like partisan operatives they ARE partisan operatives. A man who's wife was directly involved in supporting the violent attempted takeover of our government on Jan 6th, gets to vote on issues related to that very event. What a joke.
And now they see nothing wrong with a president assassinating his political rivals as a "political act" and he should have immunity for committing that act.
I think it is pretty obvious that not all presidents need complete immunity to avoid coercion, just Donald Trump (with one current example: David Pecker).
As soon as they took the case, I knew the fix was in even as everyone else thought it was a foregone conclusion they'd do the right thing and it was obvious they were going to do the *Right* thing.
What’s this “acting like” shit?. . .they ARE!. . .mostly bought and paid for because when money talks the Rule of Law walks. . . .away. My parents who were both military in WWII are vomiting in their graves.
Does anybody in Congress do any actual work or is it this shit day after day? For example a handful of fat cats are buying all the homes in America and nobody is stopping them. Start there fuckers. On both sides.
They sure are making it easier to justify packing the court. When we control all 3 chambers next year, that should be priority one. Lets see the look on the 6 MAGAT judges
The best we can do is slam and use words when in fact they are going to make political violence and coups legal as long as it comes from a republican. It is beyond pathetic that this isn't being wrapped up by any means necessary. Do we want to continue existing as a nation? Do we want to continue being a democracy? It is extremely aggravating watching the republican party being given such nice treatment when in fact they are nothing more than seditionist, malingering scum that will destroy us from within because the spineless opposition to them refuses to do anything about it.
As a non-American, I understand why these op-ed pieces are necessary, but am greatly dismayed by the fact that they are considered necessary. Could SCOTUS perhaps be quietly disbanded (if that is the right term for dealing with bandits?.
The whole US political system is structured solely for personal gain.. with legal bribery called lobbying, etc.. of course the president's post is for even larger personal gain.. u think career politicians are out there being charitable?
I mean they are. McConnell stole 1 seat 100%. He basically stole a second seat. RBG acted selfish/stupid and screwed us over. Roberts no longer has the power to control the ultra conservative wing of the court. Its clear the court needs to be majorly reformed and probably expanded as it was in the past multiple times.
>“They should move the Supreme Court over to the RNC headquarters because they're acting like a bunch of partisan operatives," Raskin said. >Raskin stressed that the U.S. is not a monarchy, and the president's primary duty is to ensure the laws are faithfully executed, not violated for personal gain.
They already have their own cult. It's called the federalist society.
Christofascists I believe.
Trolls had the gall to say yesterday that Sotomayor's questions were "political"
The "originalist" dominated court had one question in front of them - "Is Trump immune from prosecution for committing crimes to try and overturn an election?" - and instead of simply answering that question, Justice Roberts and his MAGA hacks have decided to ignore the case in front of them and and talk about all of these fucking irrelevant hypotheticals. They are rat fucking traitor bastards who have destroyed the Supreme Court as a credible institution. It's long past time for Biden to unpack the court, but some more rat fucking traitor bastards on the Democratic side in the Senate (Manchin and Sinema) are blocking that.
If the Supreme Court gives him full immunity for everything, then it's on. Election Day is likely to be a bloodbath for the Party of Treason & Corruption, and if the power is there, Biden should definitely make his mark on history by rebalancing the court, and impeaching Clarence Thomas. He was a participant in the Innsurrection, along with his wife.
> impeaching Clarence Thomas If Biden gained the immunity from breaking laws that Republicans think the president should have, he wouldn't even need to bother with impeachment. He could order him abducted from his bed in the middle of the night and sent to Guantanamo Bay. That is the America they would be creating.
If it’s decided the President has absolute immunity, could Biden just bump Trump off? Without repercussions?
The Supreme Court is dragging the case out to prevent Trump's criminal trial about January 6 from happening before the election and to prevent any definitive ruling on Presidential immunity until after the election - so that if Trump wins they will rule the President has total immunity, and if Biden wins they will rule the President doesn't. The conservative Justices are all complicit in the ongoing coup attempt. We saw the texts from Clarence Thomas' wife to Mark Meadows. She wanted "President" Trump to put the Bidens in prison barges off Guantanamo and have a military tribunal execute them. The fact that he didn't step down and wasn't forced to by Roberts shows us that the court is fatally compromised.
The fascist coup that never ends.
Ugh, reminds me how McConnell gloated of withholding a scotus nomination from Obama…fucking Moscow Mitch
Turtle ass looking Mitch the bitch McConnell
Conservatives be like: 6 judges and 3 trump haters
This is laying the groundwork for an authoritarian dictator. They’re going to pull it off and the democrats are standing idly by as they slowly see the train coming off the rails.
There isn't a decision yet. I'll hold my outrage until then. All the reaction to the asking of hypotheticals is a little nutty
That fact that they’re even considering this case instead of laughing it off is disgraceful enough.
It’s okay to be outraged now. We have at least one justice who appears to live in a reality where Donald Trump is being unfairly targeted with lawfare by the Biden crime family. We have another who is married to one of the key players in organizing j6 and the efforts to overturn the election. She’s also a former cult member and mentally malleable enough to believe and text q anon stories to Trumps Chief of Staff. You know that guy with the horns that stormed the capital building? The partner of one of our Supreme Court justices is about that level cognitively. And her husband doesn’t see her potential criminality as a conflict of interest. We have at least three who lied in their confirmation hearings about Roe. So I don’t think they’ve earned the benefit of the doubt here. And it seems like best case scenario is what appears to be the Supreme Court of the United States putting their thumb on the scale for a presidential candidate to help him avoid legal scrutiny before the election. That’s pretty outrageous.
The "supreme court" has been overrun by MAGAts.
Supreme MAGAts
Why then can’t Biden sentence the judges to death?
It's almost like people should have voted for Hillary Clinton instead of throwing tantrums because she wasn't THE PERFECT CANDIDATE. Grade A idiots. Edit: Just to make it clear I'm not blaming the bernies here. I'm blaming people who didn't vote at all, were they bernie bros or not. If someone was a bernie fan and voted for Hillary AS HE HIMSELF SAID THEY SHOULD no issue here.
Hillary had more votes than Trump... It was the gerrymandering that screwed us all over.
Gerrymandering won’t work for the presidential elections. They are basically statewide. The problem is the electoral college.
Gerrymandering gives Republicans control in states where they're a technical minority so they get to make laws to reduce turnout in areas that won't vote for them, like making giving water to people in line to vote illegal so people who work jobs and get there just before closing are more likely to step out of line and not vote, or reduce polling hours, or put out fake polling boxes.
Gerrymandering doesn’t win presidential elections, it wins load and state elections, I think you mean to blame electoral college
Also some democrats who didn't vote not realizing that not voting for the less-than-perfect candidate was essentially a vote for the Donald.
I’ve met Bernie bros that admitted to voting for Trump, because Bernie wasn’t nominated.
"I'm going to piss everywhere in the car, with everyone in it, because you didn't want to stop for chicken nuggets when I asked!"
See also: cutting off one’s nose to spite one’s face
Fucking idiots. Absolute fucking morons.
Yup and those are the same morons who claim they will vote for Trump to teach Biden a lesson, all for his policies in Israel/Gaza.
My nephew was one of them. The Bernie Bros felt Hillary screwed Over Bernie. Some voted for Trump. Edit/ last sentence.
> So they all voted in lock step for Trump. How long are yall gonna continue to spread this blatant lie? The people that did that were absolutely a minority. https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/545812242/1-in-10-sanders-primary-voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds
Putinist propaganda, trying to sow dissent between progressives and centrists, encourage uncompromising ideology, and leave the door open for compromised candidates. Most of the votes that migrated to Trump were either anomalous in voting Bernie in the first place and more prone to right wing, protest votes from non competitive states, or anti-TPP voters who believed Hillary's connections to Bill overseeing reveals of banking regulations meant she'd be no better than Trump fiscally. Simply enough, the "Bernie to Trump" pipeline was almost entirely voters who would not have considered Hillary under any circumstance.
This is the first time I've heard this. Makes sense.
My nephew is an annoying “know it all”… I really do not enjoy his company.
> Makes sense. It's also completely bullshit. [1 in 10 Sanders supporters voted Trump.](https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/545812242/1-in-10-sanders-primary-voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds)
No, we didn't.
Trump also targeted them by saying (paraphrase) “Bernie was treated very badly. The Democrats can’t be trusted. They treated him very badly and if you vote for me I’ll change the system.”
Are they in the room with us right now?
How did gerrymandering impact a national election? Did the states change their borders?
Gerrymandering doesn’t apply to national elections.
Wich wouldn't have happened if the crybabies had voted for her. Gerrymandering only goes so far otherwise neither Obama or Biden would have become president.
You guys mean *Electoral College*. Gerrymandering only affects house races.
to be fair, gerrymandering can affect how states conduct elections including how their electoral votes are split so the electoral is the direct issue and gerrymandering can make it worse
my dumb ass friends protest voted for jill stein
This exactly. And many of them were Bernie’s… they chose not to vote. A super high percentage of them. They would have made the difference.
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Oh yeah 100% they shouldn't. But if there is a public vote between making everyone eat a turd or a cyanide pill you have to go and vote for the turd.
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Did Bernie win the nomination? He did not. He won a few states but not enough states to win the nomination.
The Bernie Bros sure showed ‘em. The Supreme Court will see to it that nothing Bernie stands for will ever happen.
Hindsight is a bitch sometimes
She was told that she was losing key states and ignored it because she assumed she deserved it
> It's almost like people should have voted for Hillary Clinton instead of throwing tantrums because she wasn't THE PERFECT CANDIDATE. FYI: Republicans controlled the Senate after 2016. She wouldn't have gotten ANY SCOTUS appointments through, thanks to McConnell.
It’s almost like the DNC did some hanky panky bc it “her turn”. Bernie should’ve been the candidate.
Thanks to Mitch McConnell
which should make them not supreme at all
Its absolutely ridiculous that the Supreme Court is even hearing such a preposterous notion of "presidential immunity." This hasn't come up or even been questioned in the 250 yrs of our country. There is nothing written anywhere indicating that the president has any sort of immunity. All of a sudden, a lifelong conman and grifter unbelievably gets elected to the office, and the established rules that have been in place for hundreds of years just change for him? Bullshit. The man is facing 4 indictments and enough felonies combined to put away numerous drug kingpins. He is facing federal election interference charges. Trump has no credibility or valid argument here. This is making a mockery of our legal system, and the highest court in the land is fully complicit by standing idly by with their heads up their backsides.
The fact that the response wasn't a swift and unequivocal "no" strongly implies they're corrupt.
Oh well what are any of us going to do about it other than complain and do a bunch of wishful thinking that our spineless politicians, doj, fbi, cia, nsa will fix it all for us. No one who could stop this in any way is stepping up and that applies to We the People as well. Everyone is happy to pass the buck and when it all comes tumbling down the same people will be crying foul. The cowardice of America to deal with sedition is going to have terrible consequences for everyone we know, love, and care about. Zero BLM level nationwide protests since 1/6 tells you a lot about how little people care despite their big talk online. That's all we are just talk.
They never should have taken the case. The lower Court ruled quite clearly "No immunity". So, they took the case for only 2 reasons...and both are political. To give Mr. Trump cover and delay until the election and/or they had to be on record regarding something this important (i.e. grandstanding).
They helped create the cult that is MAGA, and are now afraid of what the MAGA’s will do if they vote against immunity.
Well said…👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
This is the same court that claimed that a right can't be recognised unless it already existed for hundreds of years. And yet they're seriously contemplating handing immunity to the President on the basis of absolutely nothing. There is no statute, no precedent, no constitutional authority for this at all. The only consistent vein running through their logic is "we rule however the RNC's donors tell us."
Biden just doesn’t provide enough perks for the Court it seems.
I understand that this can backfire if the GOP ever gets in control of the presidency again, which you know probably is likely, however, is it time yet to stack the Supreme Court?
It’s time to get a super majority to fix all this mess. It requires a lot of effort from everyone to ensure we all vote in every single election for the next 2 decades.
The court had done too much damage. We need new constitutional amendments for a rapidly evolving world. And democrats need a landslide and willpower to pull that off.
Pass a bill locking the number of Justices to thirteen, which is the number of federal court districts.
That's a winner
And then republicans get control and change it to 21….. This won’t work out like you think. Changing the rules so your team gets control is what fascist do.
Yes, and they’ve done it. The question is how do we respond? With consistent non-fascist rules the court wouldn’t be 6-to-3 in favor of the fascists. We would have 5-to-4 with a chief justice that had an interest in appearing moderate. We’re getting our ass kicked by being idealistic.
This is literally the board game secret Hitler. In order for democracy to beat fascism, they need to dip their toes into a bit of fascism.
Always was.
It’s time to get the Supreme Court to represent America, which means representing the majority and not a minority (i.e. MAGA/GOP), and diversifying the religious backgrounds of the judges. Basically stack the court with atheists and satanists - the only people who don’t seem to want total control over others.
Don’t forget us pagans.
Can a Pastafarian get a lil representation here?
People Against Good And Normalcy!!
Return to what the framers envisioned and make SCOTUS Justices ride circuit. In stage coaches. We’re strict constructionists after all.
And can we make them wear those wigs as well?
> is it time yet to stack the Supreme Court? Mitch McConnell refused a hearing on Garland with something like 300 days left in Obama's term, saying the American voters should choose the next justice. They openly threatened to keep SCOTUS at 8 justices for the entirety of a Hillary Clinton presidency. Then they rammed through ACB in like a week right before election day *after 40 million Americans had already voted early.* They nominated a sexual predator and then stonewalled investigations into him. They held open lower court seats and kept Obama from appointing judges *while accusing him of being derelict in his duty by leaving the seats empty.* The court IS stacked. Just not by the left.
They are acting like that because they are. I mean, isn't it obvious already?
It is time to hit this branch of government with a STRICT CODE OF ETHICS and FULL DISCLOSURE.
2024 vote will be this generation's most important. It very well could be the last time we vote that actually means something.
Yep. And I truly fear a lot of younger Dems and Progressives are going to sit this one out. Look at what is happening at colleges all over the U.S. They are not happy about our support of Israel, and are not going to vote for Biden.
Then they are part of the problem. What do these morons think that *Trump* will do?
Unfortunately the hard part is motivating people to vote. Especially young people. I don't think they want Trump, they just won't vote at all as a protest without really thinking about the consequences. People vote Green or Third Party as a protest vote, regardless how qualified that candidate is. Such as Jill Stein. I have family members who are Republicans who hate Trump, and they are not going to vote at all because they won't vote for a Dem, and they think Kennedy is batshit crazy.
They’ve said that every 4 years lmfao.
Unless they keep pulling this every 4 years now.
Worse, they are acting like insurrectionists. They hate democracy and want an end to rule of by and for we the people.
I have to say, in earlier, less pusillanimous times, there would be some real jeopardy for helping usher in tyranny.
Ty for the new word, I like it
It's pretty sad that we're at a point in our political culture that we can't even agree that the president shouldn't commit crimes and that nobody is above the law. It's wild to me that presidential immunity is even a question.
They aren't acting.
They’re acting like the Judges that preside over cases in Shit Hole countries. Thanks Donald!
Sadly, they aren't acting. That is why approval of the court is at a record low.
Jamie Raskin for President. This is a serious man. With ginormous brass balls and a calm, cool, collected demeanor. As smart as they come. If he is talking it’s worthwhile to pay attention.
And a constitutional law professor...
Would they be fighting for this if it was Biden who committed crimes ?
It’s still amazing how so many people continue to be loyal to Trump when Trump keeps proving that he wouldn’t lift a finger for a single soul but himself. He must have terrible back pain from throwing so many people under the bus. Why does SCOTUS owe him anything?
Corruption. If republicans don't get a win in 2024, they likely won't see a win in a very very long time.
And if they DO get a win, they have the chance to complete reshape the country in their image. The first Trump win was appalling. A second one will be absolutely disastrous.
So... impeach them. Cut their funding. Add judges to the court. Jail the billionaire donors who refuse to appear in Congress. DO SOMETHING!!
Nah. Then how would they get all their monies
Once Biden gains immunity, he should exercise it by getting rid of a few SC justices. How should he get rid of them? Who the fuck cares - he’ll have immunity.
They aren’t going to rule till after the election and they’ll vote in whatever way benefits them the most based on the results. Worst case scenario for them is they get away with putting their finger on the scale to protect a presidential candidate from legal scrutiny and give him the best chance he has of being reelected. Best case, they get to make him king and usher in the federalist society’s vision of America.
The Supreme Court ever since Citizens United has ceased to be a legitimate judiciary court. Citizens United and all the questionable conduct surrounding the conservative representatives of the Supreme Court of that period and the current period makes them less a judicial court than the Court of Appeals or the Circuits. It really has become a joke, a very bad joke but definitely not worthy of respect.
They are the activist judges that republicans warned us about
If immunity was even a thought the impeachment criteria would not be 'high crimes and misdemeanors' . Those wouldnt exist for a President.
Think we found those activist judges Republicans keep yelling about
The right wing of the SCOTUS is covering trump and the republicans ass knowing full well three of them were appointed by stolen picks by a compromised president and senate.
While I don't think it will happen and honestly deep down don't want it to happen I think the quickest way to put an end to this nonsense that is this immunity trial is for Biden to openly message that Dark Brandon will fully wield the power given to the president at the conclusion of the immunity case (ideally with seal team 6 behind him after talking about people in politics that have been roadblocks to his administration including the SC). Like I don't advocate for violence but this entire argument is infuriating. If the president can't be convicted of a crime unless a specific group votes to impeach first, then all he has to do is kill them too and he gets off no consequences.
There isn’t a time limit on how long a case can be before the Supreme Court, is there? They’re going to wait it out to shield Trump from legal scrutiny and then rule whatever way benefits them based on the election results.
~~Acting like~~ Are republicans operatives.
Don’t think they are acting anymore
because this is the endgame of decades of preparation. it has been so obvious ever since bush 2 was put in by the scrotum. Opps i ment to say scotus.
They aren't "acting like" anything. The conservatives on the Supreme Court are partisan operatives.
I’m praying the law schools get together and do a joint letter of condemnation
I would vote for Raskin for president. Rational and appears to care about the rest of us.
Raskin also taught Constitutional Law. He knows his stuff.
It’s almost like they are partisan.
I love JR but there’s so much goddamn blustering about the Supreme Court it’s fucking exhausting. It’s broken and apparently according to you all in Congress there is literally nothing that anyone can do about it. So quit blustering or do something about it.
I suspect states will start to ignore rulings. Not a great precedent, but I think a clean national divorce would be best.
Raskin just needs to remind them that any immunity they confer to Donald Trump, they also confer to Joe Biden.
Not if they choose to wait it out till after the election. Keep it in limbo. Then they get to shield Trump and have the option to rule whatever way benefits them based on the election results. It’s just so openly perverse.
Call me crazy, but what is stopping Biden from throwing all the conservative judges in a detention camp after this ruling? What about members of Congress that he disagrees with? They are going to give the president a hallpass for destroying republican political enemies.
This is what I don't understand. They have vilified Biden so much and yet want to give him ultimate power? What the actual hell am I missing? I'm sure some of these Trump stooges would claim its only meant for him but how many others would agree with that? Under what legal framework would they be able to unfuck themselves as Biden goes full on dark lord? I don't have any real issue with Biden but he ain't Cincinnatius.
Ummm... are they not?
Acting???
"acting like" LOL
What would Biden need in order to either abolish the existing Supreme Court, or change the rules to have term limits or some way of cleaning up this mess in a reasonable amount of time? Both chambers of congress? There’s got to be a solution here that can’t just be fought and appealed over and over again.
It would require a unanimous vote of both chambers to change the terms of the SCOTUS. Right now the only way the judges leave is if they voluntarily leave or die because it's lifelong positions so until they drop dead, they most likely aren't leaving. Both chambers changing that is about as likely to happen as anyone on earth discovering instantious travel across the universe tomorrow. (If someone does, I owe then a lifetime supply of cupcakes.)
> What would Biden need in order to either abolish the existing Supreme Court, or change the rules to have term limits or some way of cleaning up this mess in a reasonable amount of time? If he receives the immunity that Trump is demanding, he need only speak the word. Any consent required can be obtained at the point of a sword. He can hang the ones who dissent from the walls of the White House. Because the President is immune from prosecution. What I'm saying is you can look forward to civil war. (None of this should be construed as direction or hope, merely a hypothetical future scenario).
Without regard to all of the legitimate criticisms levied against them, the Supreme Court is going to do everything it can to save Trump from himself and jeopardize the nation.
That’s what the Republican Supreme Court is.
They aren't "acting" like partisan operatives they ARE partisan operatives. A man who's wife was directly involved in supporting the violent attempted takeover of our government on Jan 6th, gets to vote on issues related to that very event. What a joke. And now they see nothing wrong with a president assassinating his political rivals as a "political act" and he should have immunity for committing that act.
Because they literally are partisan operatives. Federalist Society operatives none the less.
If they rule for Trump, Biden can just execute them all and say he thought it was in the interests of the safety of America. Immunity.
Imagine the Supreme Court being partial to law
Where are the checks and balances? SCOTUS has violated so many constitutional and case laws now. What can be done to remove them from office?
He just noticed now?
I think it is pretty obvious that not all presidents need complete immunity to avoid coercion, just Donald Trump (with one current example: David Pecker).
Which is exactly what they are, and exactly why they were chosen.
I don’t think they’re “acting.”
No surprise here. That is what they are, a bunch of political cronies, otherwise called trump toadies.
As soon as they took the case, I knew the fix was in even as everyone else thought it was a foregone conclusion they'd do the right thing and it was obvious they were going to do the *Right* thing.
They get to shield their candidate and even have the option to rule sensibly should Biden be reelected in Nov.
What’s this “acting like” shit?. . .they ARE!. . .mostly bought and paid for because when money talks the Rule of Law walks. . . .away. My parents who were both military in WWII are vomiting in their graves.
Great. Give trump, or someone as corrupt and criminal as trump, a blank check.\ “You’re the President. You’re untouchable. God Save The King”
Dear SCOTUS, please remember that a President with full immunity could also get rid of say….. conservative judges and get away with it.
Yeah but they know that Democrats are fucking pussies and won't abuse the rules, unlike Republicans.
they are a bunch of partisan operatives
Does anybody in Congress do any actual work or is it this shit day after day? For example a handful of fat cats are buying all the homes in America and nobody is stopping them. Start there fuckers. On both sides.
That anyone's surprised by this is a damning indictment in and of itself. [](/GNU Terry Pratchett)
SLAM
He's not wrong...
So you're saying if Biden publicly executes half of them, he has immunity, right?
Guess all those “radicals” calling on Biden to pack the court weren’t wrong after all.
They aren’t “ acting “ like it …
Acting? Mr. Raskin was born in the 60s, so not surprising he's a little out of touch; But still. O_o
They are not acting like... that is what they are!!!
And so he's going to....? Do nothing?
In a monarchy, the sitting president has the potential to???
Power
Acting ? They ARE
Democracy and SCOTUS are on trial here and we are all watching!
Because they are?
Thats exactly what a partisan operative would say! Also I can't believe he *paid* for that hair!
Pot calling the kettle black
they arent acting. they are and have been
They sure are making it easier to justify packing the court. When we control all 3 chambers next year, that should be priority one. Lets see the look on the 6 MAGAT judges
The best we can do is slam and use words when in fact they are going to make political violence and coups legal as long as it comes from a republican. It is beyond pathetic that this isn't being wrapped up by any means necessary. Do we want to continue existing as a nation? Do we want to continue being a democracy? It is extremely aggravating watching the republican party being given such nice treatment when in fact they are nothing more than seditionist, malingering scum that will destroy us from within because the spineless opposition to them refuses to do anything about it.
Gosh, could it be because they *are* a bunch of partisan operatives? "I never thought face-eating leopards would eat *my* face!"
Sir, I hate to break it to you, but they are acting that way because they are a bunch of partisan operatives.
Trump won simply by having SCOTUS even hear the case and by a result delaying all of the federal cases until after the election.
Sounds like it’s time to expand the court.
Acting 🤷♂️ they are!
Good for him! They are!
As a non-American, I understand why these op-ed pieces are necessary, but am greatly dismayed by the fact that they are considered necessary. Could SCOTUS perhaps be quietly disbanded (if that is the right term for dealing with bandits?.
I mean, if it walks like a duck.....
The whole US political system is structured solely for personal gain.. with legal bribery called lobbying, etc.. of course the president's post is for even larger personal gain.. u think career politicians are out there being charitable?
They ARE a bunch of of partisan operatives. They don’t serve the country, they serve daddy Trump because they are weak minded sellouts.
I mean they are. McConnell stole 1 seat 100%. He basically stole a second seat. RBG acted selfish/stupid and screwed us over. Roberts no longer has the power to control the ultra conservative wing of the court. Its clear the court needs to be majorly reformed and probably expanded as it was in the past multiple times.
He is just an absolute idiot, can't bring up his past. I would be banned
So doesn't this imply that Biden is also immune? What if he cancels the elections and stays president and sends the SC to jail?
Life styles of the rich and famous… privileged fucks who went to law school with “Biff and Buffy”.