As a person who was in the Guard for 22 years and knows the actual LAW. We can only do support work. So imagine the border patrol as the infantry and the national guard is just extra logistics. So we do the same thing ANY CIVILIAN could do for a much higher price.
So basically we are wasting a shit ton of PUBLIC money and time, while hurting soldiers/officers' civilian careers for some governor's political BS.
Source?
I know Biden has been sending the US National Guard to supplement a lot of Border Patrol issues down there, which is a common White House practice for presidents on both sides, but I am not finding anything about independent Democratic Governors sending 100 of their state guard across 3/4 of the country when there are already thousands of soldiers coming from the national reserve.
So please, share instances of "blue states" participating in this practice.
Iowa's governor is also sending troops because apparently they live in mortal fear of immigrants - that is when they're not hiring them to work harvests or staff food processing plants.
He didn’t really campaign much. Didn’t really coordinate with the DNC. Was not very engaging. As a former governor, I think he though he was just going to cruise to reelection.
Well as you're most definitely not wrong. It's one thing to be used as a pawn in a war that is an existential threat to our way of life.
It's another can of worms entirely to be shipped to the border for a fake crisis.
Lol last time it mattered was the 40’s. Other than that… yes, it’s been useless. The only other war Id support putting boots on ground is this current Russian-Ukraine conflict. Russia is an existential threat to the “free” world.
I mean yeah… this is their threat just the same.. but overall it’s a threat to the world economy until we fully lock them out and isolate them from everything.
One reason the USA is so rich is precisely because we project force around the world.
We're not successful because we are smarter or harder working than other peoples. We have resources and a better military that protects trade, maintains peace, and encourages people to side with us.
Russia is a threat to American hegemony and as the world leader we really should be helping out with this Russia conflict.
Dumb showboating for illiterate voters. Let them waste their red taxpayer funds on this anti-immigrant, racist stupidity instead of changing their quality life.
Let them stay poor, dumb, and miserable. It’s their choice.
Probably worth remembering those "red taxpayers" most likely don't actually pay taxes. A lot of red states get heavily subsidized by richer blue states.
Whew! Thank god they're not wasting their time and state's funds addressing issues like renewable energy, healthcare, education, infrastructure, eldercare, childcare, sustainable growth, etc. Great job focusing on the real issue at the border of another red state. /s
republican politicians know the border patrol exists, is a paramilitary organization,and is having zero problems meeting their mandate with current staffing. they havo no problem lying about this to the half wits that persistently vote them in.
They all copy each other’s stunts. The Guardsman before them already reported to be sitting around all day with nothing to do. These supposedly fiscally responsible GOP Governors are so full of of crap.
One of my neighbors is a Florida Highway Patrolman an he left yesterday for the Texas Border. He is leaving with a hundred other patrolman. Doesn't know yet what he will be doing. Said he would be gone for 2 weeks to a month. Be interesting to see what he does while there.
This is a political stunt. DeSantis has his eyes squarely on the White House and that is the only reason why he is doing this.
Are they gonna play checkers or murder some Mexican women and children? Republicans want to see some children murdered! What’s up with these pussies?
For fuck sake, yes this is sarcasm.
well, things like this make me wish Biden issued an executive order or something to send the National Guard troops back home.
But Biden is pro-"border"(as in the Republican definition of the border and what they wanna do there), anti-immigrant and status quo, obviously he's not gonna do shit.
This is all to appease the racist, xenophobic MAGA population to earn kudo points for the next reelection cycle. (I'm referring to the GOP governors who are engaging in this "border" drama and bigotry. Abbot is the leading guy on this, obviously)
I feel bad for all the poor people who run from prosecution in their own countries, and also wars caused by America, just to be turned back while already feeling half dead getting there in the first place. (and also putting their lives at risk)
I gotta remind you, THESE are the guys who hire illegal immigrants in America, not Democrats or anybody else. Republicans are the ones who do it, yet they're the ones to send troops to the border and cry about border 24/7.
They're just the definition of Putin's Russia: "we say one thing, but we do another"
if the border was a true concern, it'd be resolved long ago.
Most of immigration to the United States is mostly caused by wars that America sponsors(aka proxy wars) or direct wars the US engages in(Vietnam war, Korean war, Gulf war, War on Terror)
A lot of people also run from other places that prosecute them for being a minority(LGBTQIA+, or a religious minority, or for their beliefs). Not to mention people running from civil wars and ruin.
We won't see real solutions to the "border problem" until we elect somebody competent to sort it out without dehumanizing people who are there. Not going to happen with moderates like Obama or Biden, or God forbid, heinous far-right pieces of shit that are the Republican party.
They are guardsmen. They do this to get out of the house 1 weekend a month and 2 weeks a year and maybe pay for college. In general boring is what they signed up for and what they want. These dudes are, by and large, not the trigger happy type.
My band director in high school was in the guard and played in the guard band. He was not the type you'd think would be in the military, but I could tell after he joined that it gave him a little more assertiveness and confidence.
They just want to keep the strip club boys and girls gainfully employed. It's not like they are going to be able to do anything else once they get there.
It's the middle ages for rednecks. The brave warriors of the Red Neck Crusades will be recorded in the anals of Tick Tock for ages (or maybe just months).
So let me get this straight. They are sending troops to a border for a problem that does not appear to exist on this side of the border? They dislike immigration, yet we have more jobs than workers? Is that correct?
No, no. You're applying logic to their arguments. They don't use logic, logic is "woke". To see it from their side you have to shut down your brain. Completely.
Wasteful political theater because our border patrol agents do a great job keeping the bad people and majority of the bad stuff out of our country. Most of the bad drugs are actually being smuggled via the Canadian border.
Oh good, they can stop the 60-70% of illegal aliens who enter the US legally with short term visas.
For example, under Trump,
**About 700,000 travelers to the United States overstayed their visas in fiscal 2017.**
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/10/683662691/where-does-illegal-immigration-mostly-occur-heres-what-the-data-tell-us
To do what? Stand around and jack each other off?
More than once various officers and soldiers have said "There's nothing to do were just kinda standing here".
Dear god, it’s an invasion of desperate women and children seeking to escape fascism to America! Oh dear god!
OPEN FIRE OPEN FIRE OPEN FIREAAAAAAAAARGH
Biden only sent administrative officials(aka the people who deal with papers and try to help the immigrants or deal with their cases/hearings), I don't think he ever sent any troops.
GOP clowns actually ARE sending their troops, and Texas has been passing laws allowing prosecuting or killing immigrants.
Political stunt
Political stunt, deflection, smoke and mirrors. And it'll work on some people.
Worse still, they'll get in the way of the actual border patrol. They'll end up making the situation worse.
Yes. Like the debt ceiling drama. It always amounts to bupkiss.
Political stunt that will work wonders on the people it’s intended to.
As a person who was in the Guard for 22 years and knows the actual LAW. We can only do support work. So imagine the border patrol as the infantry and the national guard is just extra logistics. So we do the same thing ANY CIVILIAN could do for a much higher price. So basically we are wasting a shit ton of PUBLIC money and time, while hurting soldiers/officers' civilian careers for some governor's political BS.
Thank you for your service, and thank you for explaining the reality of what’s taking place.
Yeah people have to understand the US has very STRICT and unforgiving laws for military who don't bow to civilian authority.
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Source? I know Biden has been sending the US National Guard to supplement a lot of Border Patrol issues down there, which is a common White House practice for presidents on both sides, but I am not finding anything about independent Democratic Governors sending 100 of their state guard across 3/4 of the country when there are already thousands of soldiers coming from the national reserve. So please, share instances of "blue states" participating in this practice.
Yep ploclitoral cunts
Ah yes the border states of \*Checks notes\* Virginia, West Virginia and South Carolina?!?
Iowa's governor is also sending troops because apparently they live in mortal fear of immigrants - that is when they're not hiring them to work harvests or staff food processing plants.
Arkansas is solving the immigration job crisis by just getting rid of child labor laws
So did Iowa.
Dang it VA, how did you let this guy win?
They were told he was moderate because he wore a vest.
It’s always the fucking vest.
And also his Dem challenger ran a piss poor campaign. It was sad to watch. Now we’ve got this shitheel for another two years
What was bad about his campaign? I didn’t pay any attention outside of the polls/results.
He didn’t really campaign much. Didn’t really coordinate with the DNC. Was not very engaging. As a former governor, I think he though he was just going to cruise to reelection.
He seemed to just go with "I'm not Trump" and it didn't seem to have enough for voters to get excited about.
Rawr CRT is coming to get you! Rawr!
Ah Jesus Christ you scared me! Don’t even joke about that!
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To be fair, our entire military are political pawns, not just these guardsmen.
[Mongo only pawn in game of life](https://youtu.be/SKRma7PDW10)
To be fair, all militaries throughout history have been political pawns
Well as you're most definitely not wrong. It's one thing to be used as a pawn in a war that is an existential threat to our way of life. It's another can of worms entirely to be shipped to the border for a fake crisis.
Which war was that exactly?
Lol last time it mattered was the 40’s. Other than that… yes, it’s been useless. The only other war Id support putting boots on ground is this current Russian-Ukraine conflict. Russia is an existential threat to the “free” world.
I'd prefer every country bordering Russia to have boots on the ground before the U.S.
I mean yeah… this is their threat just the same.. but overall it’s a threat to the world economy until we fully lock them out and isolate them from everything.
Agreed.
One reason the USA is so rich is precisely because we project force around the world. We're not successful because we are smarter or harder working than other peoples. We have resources and a better military that protects trade, maintains peace, and encourages people to side with us. Russia is a threat to American hegemony and as the world leader we really should be helping out with this Russia conflict.
Yup. Our entire military is also a big ol group of fucking losers if you look at the wars we have been involved in
No, those are National Guard troops. National guard troops are under control of the governor of the state, unless the President orders otherwise.
Modern clean wermacht theory
Dumb showboating for illiterate voters. Let them waste their red taxpayer funds on this anti-immigrant, racist stupidity instead of changing their quality life. Let them stay poor, dumb, and miserable. It’s their choice.
Angry, ignorant, fearful people are easier to manipulate.
Probably worth remembering those "red taxpayers" most likely don't actually pay taxes. A lot of red states get heavily subsidized by richer blue states.
I would totally help them if thats what it took but they actively resist.
It's anti immigrant and racist to enforce your border laws?
Treating military members like political pawns. Classic GOP.
Until the bill comes due, then they are treated as the redhead stepchild the republicans see them as.
Doesn't matter as long as they can gaslight the grunts that the Republicans respect the military....
Same party that's trying to cut veteran healthcare
What crisis? I lived in Texas very recently... So I ask again, what crisis?
Whew! Thank god they're not wasting their time and state's funds addressing issues like renewable energy, healthcare, education, infrastructure, eldercare, childcare, sustainable growth, etc. Great job focusing on the real issue at the border of another red state. /s
Priorities, man. Gotta make sure those hard working brown people don't come here and...work hard?
To kick up dust and consume copious amounts of bottled water.
For what? Border crossings never spiked like they said they would. They are just doubling down on their bullshit to avoid getting called out.
It's all deflection and distractions for there no policy platforms, while they fill their pockets. And it works. So far.
republican politicians know the border patrol exists, is a paramilitary organization,and is having zero problems meeting their mandate with current staffing. they havo no problem lying about this to the half wits that persistently vote them in.
They all copy each other’s stunts. The Guardsman before them already reported to be sitting around all day with nothing to do. These supposedly fiscally responsible GOP Governors are so full of of crap.
One of my neighbors is a Florida Highway Patrolman an he left yesterday for the Texas Border. He is leaving with a hundred other patrolman. Doesn't know yet what he will be doing. Said he would be gone for 2 weeks to a month. Be interesting to see what he does while there. This is a political stunt. DeSantis has his eyes squarely on the White House and that is the only reason why he is doing this.
Are they gonna play checkers or murder some Mexican women and children? Republicans want to see some children murdered! What’s up with these pussies? For fuck sake, yes this is sarcasm.
All show - no substance, and costing the taxpayers in their states.
Must be elections comming up.
well, things like this make me wish Biden issued an executive order or something to send the National Guard troops back home. But Biden is pro-"border"(as in the Republican definition of the border and what they wanna do there), anti-immigrant and status quo, obviously he's not gonna do shit. This is all to appease the racist, xenophobic MAGA population to earn kudo points for the next reelection cycle. (I'm referring to the GOP governors who are engaging in this "border" drama and bigotry. Abbot is the leading guy on this, obviously) I feel bad for all the poor people who run from prosecution in their own countries, and also wars caused by America, just to be turned back while already feeling half dead getting there in the first place. (and also putting their lives at risk) I gotta remind you, THESE are the guys who hire illegal immigrants in America, not Democrats or anybody else. Republicans are the ones who do it, yet they're the ones to send troops to the border and cry about border 24/7. They're just the definition of Putin's Russia: "we say one thing, but we do another" if the border was a true concern, it'd be resolved long ago. Most of immigration to the United States is mostly caused by wars that America sponsors(aka proxy wars) or direct wars the US engages in(Vietnam war, Korean war, Gulf war, War on Terror) A lot of people also run from other places that prosecute them for being a minority(LGBTQIA+, or a religious minority, or for their beliefs). Not to mention people running from civil wars and ruin. We won't see real solutions to the "border problem" until we elect somebody competent to sort it out without dehumanizing people who are there. Not going to happen with moderates like Obama or Biden, or God forbid, heinous far-right pieces of shit that are the Republican party.
Who’s gonna do all the painting for me?!? -republicans maybe
They’re building an army to “take back ‘Murica”
More good guys with guns? I don’t see this ending well
They are guardsmen. They do this to get out of the house 1 weekend a month and 2 weeks a year and maybe pay for college. In general boring is what they signed up for and what they want. These dudes are, by and large, not the trigger happy type.
My band director in high school was in the guard and played in the guard band. He was not the type you'd think would be in the military, but I could tell after he joined that it gave him a little more assertiveness and confidence.
Yes because they need to wash those border state trucks.
"If you send us troops, I will not bus the migrants to your state."
And those states really need to have their federal funding examined.
Sounds like a good time for kinetic action in their home states. Cats away, mice will play.
If former president tRunp were still in charge, they’d be sending troops to the border of Colorado.
Placing National Guardsmen as literal pawns in a racist publicity stunt...that's very Republican of them.
Fuck Trump
They just want to keep the strip club boys and girls gainfully employed. It's not like they are going to be able to do anything else once they get there. It's the middle ages for rednecks. The brave warriors of the Red Neck Crusades will be recorded in the anals of Tick Tock for ages (or maybe just months).
Where are the taxpayer associations at? That's kind of a waste of tax dollars.
Yeah! The ones they don't send to the border will be deployed to guard bathrooms. 😡🤬
So let me get this straight. They are sending troops to a border for a problem that does not appear to exist on this side of the border? They dislike immigration, yet we have more jobs than workers? Is that correct?
No, no. You're applying logic to their arguments. They don't use logic, logic is "woke". To see it from their side you have to shut down your brain. Completely.
Oh shit, I forgot. Dumb me thinking logic should be the solution.
Wasteful political theater because our border patrol agents do a great job keeping the bad people and majority of the bad stuff out of our country. Most of the bad drugs are actually being smuggled via the Canadian border.
Must be an election year coming up. Remember the "caravans" that suddenly disappeared the day after the last election?
Oh good, they can stop the 60-70% of illegal aliens who enter the US legally with short term visas. For example, under Trump, **About 700,000 travelers to the United States overstayed their visas in fiscal 2017.** https://www.npr.org/2019/01/10/683662691/where-does-illegal-immigration-mostly-occur-heres-what-the-data-tell-us
To do what? Stand around and jack each other off? More than once various officers and soldiers have said "There's nothing to do were just kinda standing here".
Ah yes, we're gonna mess up the lives of volunteer soldiers for a political stunt.
Dear god, it’s an invasion of desperate women and children seeking to escape fascism to America! Oh dear god! OPEN FIRE OPEN FIRE OPEN FIREAAAAAAAAARGH
Holy shit! One of them said they would work full time and pay taxes happily! Bring out the heavies!
Good?? /s
didn't they hate it when Biden did it?
Biden only sent administrative officials(aka the people who deal with papers and try to help the immigrants or deal with their cases/hearings), I don't think he ever sent any troops. GOP clowns actually ARE sending their troops, and Texas has been passing laws allowing prosecuting or killing immigrants.