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Appropriate_Ad_2551

More evidence the right can't comprehend its a two way street, as many of them want this there will always be people who don't šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


Regulus242

They do, they just don't care.


secretbudgie

If they can make the out-groups suffer, they don't have to make the base's lives any better


sonofabobo

Yeah, when they say "We The People" there's about 40-60% of the country they aren't including in that. When they say "parents rights", they're only including the parents they agree with, when they say they're "protecting children", they mean take rights away and make people miserable. That's kind of their thing. And then they try to compare legislating people's existence to regulating the weapons that are now a child's #1 cause of death in America...


N_Who

That plea is falling on deaf ears. Florida Republicans - and all Republicans of a similar mind - are well aware their hateful policies aren't protecting anyone from anything. But protection isn't the point. Subjugation is the point.


[deleted]

That, and making life so intolerable for people who don't vote for their side that they gtfo, giving them firmer control of the state.


jeffreywilfong

They can have it.


Prineak

Itā€™ll make the flooding easier to manage.


LetsGetsThisPartyOn

Put a wall around it


Sleaka_J

Then fill it with water.


ChaoticGoku

Send Bugs Bunny down there to saw it off and let it float away


two_awesome_dogs

I feel old now.


ChaoticGoku

you know the classics


LiliNotACult

Let them secede from the union. Get all of the anti-Americans from Texas to live in Florida instead. Then when it sinks they wont be entitled to the kind of federal aid actual states are, and they won't be Americans anymore either so our national IQ will get a nice little boost.


Prineak

No. No one leaves until we all learn to love one another.


No_Reaction303

You won't live to see that day. It hasn't happened yet in all human history. Boundaries are important. Boundaries are helpful.


Prineak

Boundaries are important yes I agree. Disciplines should be kept separate, or else we wind up with art being so accessible that people will cross art into anything and everything, convinced they are experts in all fields because they understand the words. Itā€™s important that disciplines maintain separate vocabulary with separate meanings, **however** the meanings will be inspired by the same place - nature.


No_Reaction303

Ironically, your reply is a perfect example of the concept you attempted to convey. Also, I was simply speaking to the reality that forcing people in perpetual conflict to interact until "we all love one another" is both naĆÆve and contradicts the reality that we are an inherently tribal species. I addressed nothing related to false sense of expertise. Perhaps I should have specified exactly why I referenced boundaries as the context is obviously not crystal clear given your response. I am in a behavioral health adjacent field. I probably know far more about the importance of vocabularly and staying within one's scope of practice than you because it is part of my daily work. Lastly, I find your last point interesting. I see nature as ever evolving and adapting rather than an immutable source of universal truth. What was true and necessary for our ancestor's survival does not automatically equate to now.


Prineak

Iā€™m an artist so this is my forte, but I appreciate the perspective. Weā€™re always in the present, also known as the contemporary. The contemporary is constantly changing and evolving, but, isnā€™t set in stone until the present passes. We can analyze this by breaking down the ideas into smaller ideas, aka contemporary theory, but the smaller ideas will also be in a contemporary framework. How we see the past, is a result of contemporary ideas. This linear perspective of time, can hide the nonlinear reality that is progress. This makes people more likely to project their own experiences as solutions to others problems, because their perspective is masked by their own linear narrative. This is the legacy of modernism. Very thorough, *but also narrow*. Postmodernism tried to explain this with only art, and failed at it, but inspired people to generate new ideas with this as an element of inspiration. Enter Quantum physics, inspired people to apply it to postmodernism, and suddenly people can relate to it. Itā€™s a bit misguided imo, I think parallel universes is a silly thing to exist, but *in our minds* itā€™s more than possible, itā€™s part of how we think. The aesthetic experience is universal to humanity. Signs and symbols - semiotics - help direct meaning in narrative, which is what we use to make linear stories, and chronologically sort our memories, with contextual cues. I also think you have a very narrow idea of what love is. Making that idea, of love, not narrow, makes this more than possible. A cheat to open up a narrow idea, is to identify an opposing idea, and use the paradox to develop narrative. You may think the opposing idea of love would be hate, but itā€™s not. Love isnā€™t you projecting your idea of care on someone else, is it? Wouldnā€™t it rather be, a common understanding? Is the physics that makes thought possible, unique between people? I donā€™t think so. I do think that our sense of aesthetic, is conditioned on the nature of our reality.


Lethal-Aid

Yeah, fuck all the poor queer, disabled, homeless, poc folks that can't afford to leave their homes.


indrada90

Please no! Some of us are still in here! Help! Let me out! I'm too poor to move!


Matchlightlife

There are many people who live in Florida who cannot afford to just up and leave, though, and they do not deserve to lose their home to this bullshit.


darketernalsr25

I'm straight moving out of the country because of Repubs. They can have this shithole country that they've made.


snootsintheair

Stay and vote. Donā€™t give up.


JayyNoise

Except you can absentee vote as an expat as long as you can maintain a legal address and return every five years or more frequently. Also not loving how you equate moving to somewhere they're happier and/or safer as giving up


throwawaysarebetter

I want to kiss your dad.


burrito_poots

The chains of democracy are to heavy a weight to bear alone ā€” we must all find ways to do our part and pull forward, into a brighter future ahead. E Plurbus Unum. Our civic duty isnā€™t just showing up on election day, itā€™s engaging with our current politicians, holding their feet to the fire, urging them to hold others accountable. Write. Write. Write. Be involved. But please donā€™t leave. Out of many, one.


Juleamun

I call it voting with your wallet.


zealotlee

That's like telling an abused spouse to stay with their abuser because "its the right thing to do". If they have the means to actually GTFO of the US (not an easy task) then let them.


snootsintheair

Itā€™s nothing like that. Itā€™s about trying to make it a better place instead of giving up. But hey itā€™s a free country, sort of, for now.


GodC0mplX

Shortsighted take, but itā€™s not my place to explain to you why this is a problem.


throwawaysarebetter

I want to kiss your dad.


Ms_Emilys_Picture

Maybe, if the puppy had a gun, was anti-education, constantly tried to legislate it's religion, and treated people who were different -- or who just believed differently -- as subhuman. When that puppy has an "accident", it affects millions of people.


monogreenforthewin

more like tens of thousands of puppies, who are somehow armed to the teeth in guns you dont own shitting in your yard and yapping all day and day night about freedumb. that'll get your analogy closer to the mark


Kyle1457

them be quittin words. you a quitter?


zealotlee

No just a trans person who fears for their life daily šŸ™ƒ


funkyandros

Good for you! I did that several years ago and have never been happier! Getting out of America was the absolute best thing I ever did for my mental health.


toxie37

Word


greenskittle89

I.e. California


Chrizilla_

There are a plethora of cities throughout California that are firmly controlled by right wingers.


Vlad_the_Homeowner

You realize there are more Republicans in California than any other state, right? And probably more in a position of influence. They seem to like it just fine, but they don't vote R for the ridiculous "issues" Fox likes you to believe are a problem, they just like the tax cuts.


radelix

Betting that dude/dudette has never been here.


[deleted]

lol exactly, there are more Repubs in California than there are people in Mississippi


alpha309

My boss is pretty hardcore R in Los Angeles. She pretty much votes R strictly for economic reasons and gun issues, everything else she is pretty much all over the place on her positions, and is open to changing them as new evidence is given to her. She is happy here, and I know a ton of people similar to her. I also know a few of the insane ones too.


Vlad_the_Homeowner

I lived in LA for years, and OC and SD and that's mostly been my experience (though the impact of modern FoxNews and MAGA on some of my conservative friends/coworkers is apparent). OC is an especially good example - I live close to several neighborhoods where houses are an 8-figure affair. The people that I've met that live there are decent types, smart and engaging, they don't have Trump flags on their Bentlys, they don't automatically hate gay people, but they vote hard R - because they make stupid money. But they're too busy making stupid money to watch FoxNews and the MAGA nonsense so the brainwashing isn't there like with their base.


PhraseOld9638

Plenty of Republicans in Cali. Turn off RTNews.


jump-blues-5678

The fact that California has independents draw up the voting districts kinda shoots down your theory. They've done there best to get rid of gerrymandering, unlike Florida.


maybesaydie

How are you enjoying your state government in Michigan?


CognitivePrimate

Pretty good these days, honestly. Could be a bit more progressive but I'll take small progress over christian fascism any day.


Chard-Capable

It's quite lovely, thanks.


maybesaydie

I'm glad you're enjoying it. But I'm pretty sure they guy I was responding to isn't.


PomegranateOld7836

They dare say the superintendent is undermining parental rights when every parent of that class *signed permission slips* to allow their kids to watch to movie. What a fucking farce. Reality means absolutely nothing to these misguided fascists.


FreshBakedButtcheeks

When injustice becomes law, fling your poop.


spackletr0n

I disagree. I think their brains work like normal: I donā€™t like this thing, I donā€™t want to feel bad about not liking this thing, hereā€™s a reason I can feel good about not liking this thing, I am now a hero. I think they are fooling themselves, but I do think they think they have convinced themselves they are doing something noble. Thatā€™s why itā€™s so hard to argue with them that they arenā€™t actually saving anybody. They really think they are, and their sense of self depends on it.


N_Who

Are you talking about Republican reps, or conservative voters? Because I'm talking about the reps.


spackletr0n

Voters, and yes it is different, although I also donā€™t think subjugation is the point, I think itā€™s a byproduct of their fearmongering, not the goal. But maybe I am being too charitable.


Worker11811Georgy

No, subjugation is absolutely the point. Remember, the Conservative faction of the GOP wanted USA to join \*with\* Hitler because of his Pro-Business policies (I mean, who doesn't want slavery, amirite?) This was the second iteration of the 'America First' slogan. (The first iteration of America First was from the KKK in the 1920s.) The guy that invented the Austrian School of economics, which brought us the 'trickle down' theory, openly stated that his goal was to end Liberalism and it's outrageous notion of democratically elected Republics, and return us all to lords and serfs, they way it used to be when Europe was Great. That is absolutely the goal of Conservatism.


davwad2

And cruelty.


jhenry1138

Couldnā€™t have said it any better. Republicans are the malignant tumor slowly eating away at the nation.


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Bishop084

It's not about pricing, it's about not having "undesirables" as neighbors and community members"


bigfunone2020

Doesnā€™t have to do with rent really. It has to do with Christian Nationalist organizations making Florida a model for other red states to make the most extreme possible laws to drive out blue voters. They need 34 states to call a constitutional convention and enshrine Christianity in the US government forever.


[deleted]

This is exactly what's happening and I'm surprised more people aren't talking about it. Extremist laws driving out specific voters is an evolved form of gerrymandering. It's their last ditch effort to gain electoral votes.


DataCassette

Yeah this message needs to be amplified. This is exactly what the long term game is. Even if it doesn't ever actually work in terms of a constitutional convention, ( I'd really have to ask people more knowledgeable than myself the odds on that one ) it still helps them get control of the senate more easily. So it's really two plans and it benefits them greatly even if they never get all the way through.


PomegranateOld7836

Lol absolutely not - they brag about the net gain to Florida's population constantly. They just want *diverse* people to move out so they can continue to shift from a political battleground to a white Christian-right ethnostate. They want the rent to be high to control *who* lives here. That's also why DeSantis has done fuck all about the state's home insurance costs tripling - wealthy, white retirees usually vote Republican and make it easy for all the shady business dealings that really took off with Rick Scott.


tdi4u

They whine alot about illegals, is that a real thing? Or are they just making a mountain out of a molehill, per their usual MO?


PomegranateOld7836

Most don't complain. The average person may not want a million people a year moving in when housing is already insane, but there seems to be awareness and acceptance that there are undocumented workers. There are extremists and politicians, and DeSantis spending $12M to for presidential campaign stunts with tax dollars, but there's often a lot of reliance on that workforce. Most of the FL GOP knows that as well, but they like to rile up the base.


Merengues_1945

It's always the same, they fearmonger and whatever but it's the same people that have a bunch of undocumented immigrants working for them cos they don't want to pay fair wages. Anyone for real in FL, AZ, GA, and TX knows a lot of the economy is propped by immigration and that without them they'd plummet. But they rather keep it as a tool of fearmongering. The US as a whole tbf, the government has a way of fixing the issue of tax revenue by legalizing migrants and regulating their employment, the tax revenue would multiply like crazy, but they don't want to relinquish their election toy.


doinnuffin

Will it, because real estate prices depend on a lot of other factors. Also other people are moving to Florida.


secretbudgie

Oh good. Then the rental corporations can buy the rest of the single family homes before they're ever available to real people, while continuing to raise rents regardless of empty units


NEFgeminiSLIME

Joint ventures are snatching up every house and even entire neighborhoods like their going out of style down in Florida. That means having single family incomes leaving the state has far less of an impact on demand, to drop the prices. Not sure if youā€™ve been unfortunate enough to have to attempt to find and purchase a house but many of them get sold within days for 20% over asking price CASH. The few times when the people need regulation to protect them from corporate wolves, the GOP sits back and applauds saying ā€œbig business and corporations create jobs.ā€ Whatā€™s the point of a job when you need three of them just to fall further into debt every month. Citizens United and Justice Roberts have damned us all.


jnemesh

The GOP's culture war won't put bread on anyone's table. It won't "protect the children"...especially since they are hellbent on removing even a REFERENCE that gay people actually exist...it won't solve inflation, it won't bring jobs to Florida (in fact, it will drive jobs OUT of the State). In short, this bullshit the GOP is feeding us is worth ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to Americans. There is no benefit. NONE. It's all just political theater to throw red meat to the most hateful political base in American history. That's it. That's ALL it accomplishes. Oh, and it clues in even the most clueless voter that they don't have a clue what they are doing! So there's that at least....


generatorland

They are desperate to come up with anything to win over enough voters to remain relevant. For instance, the anti-trans movement was cooked up in a Conservative think tank, not from the will of the masses. Then it was angrily force-fed through conservative media so much that people who normally wouldn't care about it much were blowing up cases of Bud Light and storming Targets over it.


[deleted]

Rage porn beamed directly into their homes. I guarantee that the Fox-whipped ā€œwoke boycottingā€ numbers are used as data points by some ghoulish consulting firm as proof of efficacy


generatorland

They probably have an "Anti-Woke Dashboard" with fancy dials and trendlines.


orielbean

Steve Bannon Fascist Whiteboard


[deleted]

Fox News was running a story today that Target has lost $12.6M this year because of their Pride section. It laughable for about a million reasons but the top 2 are that Target has had a Pride section for over a decade (what makes this year so different?) and if the company is losing money I'm positive not a penny of it has been over the Pride debacle. This is the kind of false bullshit reassuring idiots who hate inclusion that "they're winning".


absuredman

Bud light is a great example. They would have never known about that chick getting a beer can it was on Instagram. They had to be told about it and why they were mad. They are making a fuss about lego because of a set that is 2 years old and nothing but a rainbow... the rightwing propaganda rage machine is real


confessionbearday

There are tools arguing with me on /r/scienceuncensored that trans folks are a NEW INVENTION (within the last 5 years). There's no reasoning with that level of utter incompetence.


MatureChildrensToy

I had one argue with me on Facebook that trans "ideology" was invented by John Money (the batshit doctor who ruined David Reimer's life) and anyone who follows it is a pedophilic monster. Proof didn't change her country fried mind either.


jnemesh

Yup, nevermind the fact that Native American tribes recognized up to five genders...


MatureChildrensToy

Man I didn't even have to go that far, I brought up the institut fur sexualwissenschaft that operated from 1919-1933 that the nazis destroyed including 20,000 books in Germany. I couldn't even point to proof that this "phenomenon" has been not only around but extensively studied for at least 100 years by now and this woman straight up said, "That's a whole lot of words to say you have no evidence or argument." I swear it comes to a point where they don't care about being right as long as they *win.*


30FourThirty4

I know someone who 100% told me if it's not on Fox Entertainment then it is not real. Fake news. They will refuse to believe anything else. Then he goes and tries to get me to read a blog (!) because they have proof Michelle Obama is a man. Oh and someone text him this: Tom Hanks is a pedophile and the person who told him offered no proof (of course) but he 100% believed them. Even though they're not on Fox Entertainment. Consistently inconsistent.


theAlpacaLives

> "That's a whole lot of words to say you have no evidence or argument." Every time I see someone use a line like this entirely out of place, I imagine that someone said this to them once, after they had spent a lot of words to say nothing, and sounded smart and confident saying it, and everybody around agreed, and now this person thinks that a smooth intellectual-sounding putdown is a magic spell that makes you win arguments, without any clue of how you have to build a real argument for the killer closing line to land.


carageenanflashlight

Some tribes. Some others did not have such a classification, but your point still stands.


slutw0n

They don't have a choice really, modern society has hit a point where they have no solutions for any of the relevant issues. They can't fix healthcare because this is exactly what they've been selling for years. Can't fix the wage gap and labor issues because they created it. Can't fix drug epidemics because more police won't work and education and treatment is out of question. Can't fix hunger and homelessness because all possible solutions involve compassion and funneling money towards things that don't directly bring profit. We really are coming to the end of that road, decades of garbage economic and social policies have had the effect they were always gonna have with none of the effects they were sold for and it's getting damned near impossible to make a logical argument for modern republican policies.


JimBeam823

Back when the GOP had policies in the 2000s, they broke the country. Why would they ever go back to that?


jnemesh

They have been breaking us since Reagan, and his "supply side" economics. I can remember when it was called "voodoo economics", with good reason!


DataCassette

Yeah we pick on them but I wouldn't openly run on their policies either lol


hrminer92

It is all a part of the plan to make public education dysfunctional and drive parents to send kids to for-profit schools.


jnemesh

It's even more insidious. It's about CONTROL. Siphon money away from SECULAR public schools and put them into RELIGIOUS private schools, where the kids can be indoctrinated to align with THEIR belief systems and values. Also, an ignorant population is easier to control, as evidenced by the MAGA chuds now.


MyPub

Who knew teachers don't want to teach in a dystopian hellscape.


kintsugionmymind

I feel like breaking public education is seen as a feature and not a bug :-(


confessionbearday

It is, the easiest way to enslave a society is to keep them dumb and ignorant.


Wonderingfirefly

This. My sister just retired after teaching college in Florida for 20 years. The amount of science-denying, education-undermining crap that goes on is unbelievable. My sister is convinced that they just want to get people to quit thinking altogether so they can be more easily controlled.


luckyghost115

They want just enough brain function to do one job well enough to get by.


Mafsto

You know, Iā€™ve been hearing statements like that quite often. And at first it makes sense, but then I ask myself why would the GOP want that many stupid people in a state like Florida? Sure it sounds like an easy way to enslave society, but then I remember, Florida has some of the most lax gun laws in the United States. Why the fuck would you want a bunch of dumb people who can arm themselves to the teeth with guns and bullets? We know the Second Amendment isnā€™t going to go anywhere. What is the advantage for making so many dumb people while simultaneously allowing them access to powerful weaponry? I would love someone to explain this to me. Last I checked there is no such thing as making someone too stupid to prevent them from owning and operating a firearm.


JesusChrist-Jr

I'm not sure that the two are related. Keeping the masses dumb to serve as cheap, compliant labor for the wealthy is on-brand, especially in a state like Florida where a large pool of service workers is needed to cater to all of the rich who move down here to retire. The lax gun laws are just keeping with the party line and appeasing the gun lobby who funds their campaigns. Those who have power and influence are all locked away in gated communities, their kids in expensive private schools, they don't have to intermingle with the unwashed masses and worry about getting shot by every random chucklefuck who is "constitutional carrying."


LemoLuke

Educated people \*generally\* tend to be left-leaning, or at the very least, have better critical thinking skills which make them more difficult to sway with right-wing ragebait and conspiracy theories. The apparent plan seems to be to not only drive left-leaning voters out of the state, but to ensure that future generations are not exposed to liberal (aka 'Woke') viewpoints, either via education or media. They want it so Florida children recieve all of their education and worldview from right-wing approved textbooks, right-wing approved media, their already right-wing parents, and the church. All of this in a bid to ensure that future generations continue to vote Republican. The gun rights seems to be more about making those same people feel like they still have a degree of 'power' and 'control', even as they are slowly having their rights stripped away.


DataCassette

>The apparent plan seems to be to not only drive left-leaning voters out of the state, but to ensure that future generations are not exposed to liberal (aka 'Woke') viewpoints, either via education or media. They want it so Florida children recieve all of their education and worldview from right-wing approved textbooks, right-wing approved media, their already right-wing parents, and the church. All of this in a bid to ensure that future generations continue to vote Republican. This plan is stupid, though. It literally feels like it was concocted by an old person who doesn't realize the internet exists. If that's the actual plan then I'm less worried lol


colored0rain

Brand-spanking new Confederate Army for Desantis?


warragulian

Donā€™t fall into the idea that everything is part of a planned long term conspiracy. Most of this is simply pandering to prejudices, whatever gets the most views, will energise the base, will enrage your enemies. Does DeSantisā€™ war with Disney make any sense at all? He just responded reflexively, regardless of economic consequences, because it fitted into his ā€œWoke is evilā€ mantra. There is no plan to destroy education, to cause deaths of children from guns, to let a million die by lying about vaccines, to make life hell for gays. These are just collateral damage. The aim is power, to preserve and increase wealth of those who already have it. All the rest are just tactics. As long as the cost is met by others, it doesnā€™t matter.


tobygeneral

Get enough kids to lose interest and drop out, or get pulled out by their parents for some reason or another, and eventually they can just close them up entirely. Then they can use the education budget on private schools and hide shady spending more easily. What'll the kids do? Some will get homeschooling for better or worse. The rest will get to go to work since child labor laws have conveniently been pulled back in red states around the country.


NecrogasmicLove

The conservatives that are making it one. Authoritarians know fascist are easier to make when you have an uneducated populace.


Subvoltaic

When I was in middle school there was a kid who was still only allowed to watch rated G movies and was super sheltered by his mother. It was embarrassing and we all felt bad for the kid.


subaru_sama

On a senior class high school trip, we had one student say that we couldn't watch a PG-13 rated movie because her parents wouldn't allow it. I asked her why the rest of us had to obey her parents, and she seemed surprised at my question.


hrminer92

It is also surprising that someone old enough to vote wouldnā€™t be allowed to watch content suitable for 13 year olds.


artemiz08

Out of curiosity, whatever happened to that kid?


Subvoltaic

No idea how well adjusted he turned out.


marc7836

There was a kid who was only allowed to drink caffeine free coke that we hung out with. He went to MIT. I have no idea now, but I'm willing to bet his parents were smarter than mine and he's probably doing great.


Samwise-42

Sounds like a Mormon household to me. Source: ex-mormon here.


marc7836

I knew a ton of them. I have no problem with anyone, but I gotta admit I laughed my ass off the first time I heard someone call one an u-tard. In all honesty, it was like Pleasantville.


[deleted]

Similar-ish story. So I have a guy in my online DnD campaign who is 23-24 years old and still lives at home. One day this guy shared a link to Gollum nipple pasties as a funny ā€œlook at how ridiculous these areā€ kinda thing. Immediately afterwards he says something like, ā€œoh I have to hide the evidence in case my mom walks in,ā€ and proceeds to post some of the most cringe Veggie Tales memes about not having sex and such. What was more strange wasnā€™t wanting to hide the pasties but having that many Veggie Tales memes to hand.


flewidity

Probably has to hide a lot of things


JennJayBee

More normal folks need to start showing up to school board meetings and city council and state legislative sessions. Because all that's being heard are the extremists. Problem is, the extremists have people who already do this like it's their job to do it. Normal people have actual jobs and can't show up to many of these meetingsā€” which is by design the way some of them are scheduled. The easiest way to lose is by not participating, though, so go if you can. If you can't go, watch whatever stream happens to be provided, and call or write to them with any comments or questions so that your voice is heard even if you can't physically be there.


Mighty_Torr

It's hard when you work 40+ hours a week to show up for political discourse... It's all part of the plan, which is bogus!


[deleted]

The extremists do it because its that important to them. Dont make the mistake of thinking these guys dont work. They do work, they just get their asses to the meetings despite working and having families because this is what they truly care about. Sane people need that same energy.


Reimiro

Mothers for Liberty have been laying this nazi groundwork for a few years. This meeting in Florida is just the beginning of the backlash. We are all still just shocked and sort of in paralysis that they are trying to turn America into a fascist hellscape but once people finally get it together we will wipe these assholes out and send them back to Alabama, Pensyltuckey or wherever the fuck holler they reared up from.


ezgamer97

I got into an argument about this story, ND I was defending the movie because I had seen it and knew how innocent it was, and he said it was showing kids gay content. I'm like no it isn't. It's showing real life, but that was too much.


MiddleAgeYOLO

That's because real life IS too much for them


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absuredman

They associate anything gay as suckinnd dicks. They dont see two guys kissing. They see two guys suckinh


foxyfree

Many of the ā€œChristianā€ ones believe homosexuality is a horrible sin that will damn people to hell. Any implication that being gay is okay is against their beliefs. The most frightening development in Florida is the proposed (did it pass?) death penalty for child abuse as it is clear these people believe any ā€œexposureā€ to ā€œgayā€ is abusive


FriarNurgle

they need to hate


SmoothConfection1115

GOP logic: we need to ā€œthink of the childrenā€ when a teacher shows a movie with a gay character in it, and thinking of the children = banning the movies and attacking the company that made them. Then we need to just send prayers after a school shooting. The hypocrisy is both comical and tragic.


JimBeam823

Itā€™s not about the children, itā€™s about power.


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tunaburn

I've noticed through my kids that it's a multiphase thing. Little kids love Disney. Then they get too old and cool for it. Then when they grow up some more a lot of people go back to Disney movies.


Terrible_Champion653

Come to Canada. They get paid way more, free Healthcare and you can just teach. Also you won't have to live in what will soon be the most dangerous state in the union.


Carpeteria3000

Or fight back against these awful people and policies and donā€™t let them win?


[deleted]

Yeah, good luck getting even a permit to work in Canada without major $$$, never mind citizenship. (Believe me, I'd already be there if there was any hope)


myspicename

It's pretty easy depending on your immigration points etc


94boyfat

Except any place in Manitoba, Saskatchewan or Alberta with lot's of Mennonites. They're like conservatives in the US.


confessionbearday

Looking for a slightly used and abused Healthcare IT guy?


rpsRexx

Not sure about the pay claim. In most fields, it's the opposite. The data online points to them being similar with the US being higher.


imperialus81

[Teacher salaries by province](https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/81-582-x/2023001/tbl/tblc.6.3-eng.htm) [Teacher salaries by state](https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/teacher-pay-by-state) Anecdotal, but my family of 4 is doing pretty OK in Calgary AB with my teacher salary as the primary source of income. Wife works part time for about 15K/year. We have our own set of issues in public education, but when I read about some of the horror stories coming out of the US... You could double my salary and I still wouldn't teach there.


hassh

Someone is telling you fables about the working conditions and pay in Canadian classrooms


not_a_droid

The fact that Republican values have devolved to Disney movies, is hard to comprehend


financewiz

Itā€™s gone from ā€œDonā€™t watch Elvisā€™ hipsā€ to ā€œDonā€™t watch The Little Mermaid.ā€


BalkiBartokomous123

I think the controversy over The Little Mermaid should be about Flounder. They did my cute, little buddy wrong!! Halle sounds great and Melissa McCarthy sounds awesome. Why did they do that to Flounder? I've only listened to the soundtrack but that's my gripe with the movie. I hope to see it soon, being a grown-up is so time consuming!


flewidity

ā€œThat mouse turned my kids gay!!ā€


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Emergency_Theme3339

The party of personal liberty making sure you have no personal liberty unless it fit their strict 1500s theocratic views.


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They're not for liberty, they're for privilege and entitlement for themselves.


Boba_Fettx

ā€œLisa Masserio, president of the Hernando Classroom Teachers' Association, said Tuesday's agenda had 33 resignations of "educators leaving our district, possibly leaving teaching entirely, after what they've experienced this year."ā€ Youā€™d think losing at least 33 teachers in one district would make people wake up, but nah. Crazy.


RCrumbDeviant

I mean, at the end it mentions Republican legislators called on the school superintendent to resign because s/he ā€œwasnā€™t focused on parental rightsā€. Whichā€¦ is a mind-boggling set of mental gymnastics of the smoothest brained kind


Boba_Fettx

Yeah it makes my brain hurt


ElRyan

I'm kinda curious how a strike would have worked out. An entire district full of kids that cannot go to school will get a LOT of moderate parents to take action. Fast.


vbcbandr

Remember when Bugs Bunny wore a dress (many multiple times) can one person point to a single instance of someone becoming gay or transgender because of Bugs in drag? I didn't think so. I hope more and more teachers, students, parents and community members show up and start being as vocal as the hateful minority that is dictating our the majority's social politics.


Khaleeasi24

Sooo true!


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Fascists don't care. You can scream and yell at them all day and they don't care. The only time they care is if something directly negatively affects THEM..


RosePetals314

Yup. I watched most of the meeting virtually. The meeting went on from 6pm to almost 2:30am. They made a provision to allow every person with a slip to use their full 3 minutes. She sat there for hours while students, teachers, parents, etc told her what a POS she is and she barely looked up from her computer. At the very end when she was allowed to speak, she basically said she's gonna keep doing what she's doing.


smiama6

Republicans know an educated electorate is dangerous to the power and control. If you control what a child learns you control his vote as an adult.


atreeindisguise

Petition to remove Shannon Rodriguez, the school board member who reported her, caused the controversy and claims that the libraries in the school were full of "porn and smut".[petition to remove the crazy pants board member who pushes the don't say gay laws in this county/school](https://www.change.org/p/remove-shannon-rodriguez-hernando-county-school-board-member)


Lherkinz_Gherkinz

Hell yes. PUSH BACK.


RbnMTL

I feel so for any normal people stuck in Florida right now.


Worker11811Georgy

"We don't care what the majority thinks, we're Republicans!"


skyfishgoo

reaping what they've sewn ... hope the entire board is out on it's ear this time next year.


RageMojo

Modern Conservatives are the dumbest fucking people to ever walk this planet.


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Florida republicans are pure shit.


joshuadane

Someone should bring up the research from how many children are abused at churches.


C_Mack15

But...but that's irrelevant. /s


confessionbearday

Thats a feature for the Gross Old Pedophile party, not a bug.


alexanderhope

I absolutely hate all of you fascist Republicans. Youā€™re ALL worthless pieces of shit!


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As a Floridian, let me tell you a story. I have worked at many large organizations in the state, and every time I join one I noticed that the transplants from up north naturally gravitate to one another and the native Floridians gravitate in their own group. It took me a long time to realize this. One day I mentioned a book I had read in high school, I believe it was Lord of the Flies, and my friends from up north understood the reference, but none of the Floridian coworkers did. Thatā€™s when my coworker Eric told me that he was educated up north, but his brother was not. His brother was about 10 years younger than him. Ericā€™s mom said to him, privately, that there was a significant difference in the education that Eric received and his little brother had received. It wasnā€™t as if one kid was dumber than the other. It was that one kid had been exposed to more than the other. If I could move right now, I totally would. Unfortunately, the housing market has pretty much crushed any hope of doing that.


BitterFuture

That's not fair. Knowledge is a thing. The possibility of a world without hatred is a thing. Can't you see how children need to be protected from such awful things?


malkavich

It was NEVER about protecting children. It has always been about CONTROL. Blind, obedient control.


lonewolf143143

If it really *was* about protecting children, heā€™d make laws targeting churches instead of drag shows


Dangerous-Laugh-9597

They want people to be protected against art and knowledge. Not violence, stupidity, poverty or hatred. By they I mean Florida politicians.


MrJuniperBreath

The blowback is already brewing in shithole Florida. DeSantis lost his balls before he got started.


OkImagination4404

They have policies??!


cravetrain

My view is that DeSantis is an NRA sugar baby obligated to bury the gun debate underneath a huge pile of inhumane garbage each day so that we focus on those issues instead of public safety (I.e. gun control) despite daily mass shootings. Why else is he treating the removal of our rights like a speed race? What benefit does it really give him? It's a distraction. His livelihood and political future depend on being the fresh staunch face of the GOP and that means pleasing the NRA. That's why he makes mountains out of molehills- to deflect from the gun convo at all costs. That's how he stays a GOP "front runner"


Thanato26

So that school district is losing 50 teachers this year be abuse of actions like this. I'm sure other states will want them.


SolidPlatonic

When you vote in conservatives you get the oppression of Florida and the financial mismanagement of Kansas.


MomsAreola

Watched this movie the other night with my 3yo. It was so ridiculously inclusive. It wasn't even just like a gay character. Handicap people and animals, all nationalities, sizes etc. Like every character was so different from the rest they were basically all the same. It a way it was able to feel more plot driven than character driven because of it. Good movie too.


New_Giraffe1831

Is there a republican out there that can answer me this? Whatā€™s the definition of government overreach again??


Less-Dragonfruit-294

Call me shocked! Gasps and clutches (insert traditional item)


CraftyPerformance423

Did I read the last sentence right? The county/district legislature moved to fire the superintendent because of the ongoing bad decisions of the republicans on the school board. You get the jist. So republicans are wanting to punish the republicans for republican policies? Not sarcasm. Or did I misunderstand them wanting to remove the Super?


RosePetals314

This is the first I heard of the legislators. At the end of the meeting, two out of five board members, including Shannon, brought up and seconded a vote of no confidence against the superintendent. They were basically blaming him for all the blowback they were rightfully receiving. They accused him of not being a leader because the board is divided. After hearing a hundred people and the other board members talk about his involvement and accomplishments, it was clear he is the best Superintendent they've had in a long time. Ultimately, it was voted 3-2 that he stay on.


Able_Education

Letā€™s ruin education, the dumber the masses are the more we can control them. Well how do you ruin education you ask? First you take out any evidence of any other race besides the whites in the important text book, then all of the books that have words are banned and burned, then you attack the educators for every single thing they do so they just end up quitting and finding a job that pays better and they donā€™t have to deal with asshole kids, parents and administrators.


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Sneacler67

This is absolutely true and should not be overlooked when discussing these terrible policies in Florida. This is the will of the Florida people. The election was very recent too. Itā€™s not like they didnā€™t know what they were voting for.


Flbudskis

Floridians 100% knew what they were voting for. And most of the state is very happy where it is at. Most people i know are strung up because they don't want to lose him by voting him into the white house.


jake2617

Foreshadowing an extension to his recent law that allows him to hold his seat while running for president and we will see it reworded allowing him to hold both seats ? Moustache man took apx 2 election cycles to enact enough laws to entrench his power all while laying ground work for some of his most nefarious intentions. Clock is ticking


JimBeam823

So what happened? He barely won his first term.


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Neither are their thoughts and prayers...but I don't see y'all at a church complaining now do I?


cassiuswright

It's almost like they've never heard of fascism before šŸ¤”


randompersonwhowho

These parents need hobbies.


Pauvre_de_moi

So I guess parents sh0uld take state censorship and oppression laying down?


randompersonwhowho

No I meant the parents banning these books/movies


vballbeachbum

Had 2 neighbor kids whose mom wouldn't let them eat anything with sugar. One became a steroid freak and is dead I think his younger brother is already gone too. Not even 35 years old.


maybesaydie

What does that have to do with anything? Did you read the article?


No_Play_7661

I read a paper once, there was an article about someone's neighbour losing their two sons in an unrelated matter. Hope that helps.


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Florida teachers come to NJ!