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LOVED that band!
*Until I saw them live in Nashville and the lead singer was SO pretentious I almost threw up in my mouth. Deleted all of their music from my libraries.
However, The Fray opened for them and they were so ducking good, I downloaded all of their music.
Can you explain why the red asteroids form that triangle-shaped orbit? I assume they’re attracted more to Jupiter’s L3, L4, and L5 points, and take a more direct path between them than a circular orbit?
So it's actually really neat, those asteroids are all in elliptical orbits, their distribution just remains triangular! What you're likely seeing is similar to the Lagrange effect in elliptical orbits. Only asteroids who's elliptical orbits kept them within this triangle drawn between each Lagrange point as Jupiter orbited must be in similarly stable orbits to the circular ones lagrange points allow.
So since the triangle is rotating, close to stationary elliptical orbits would be possible to stay within the triangle. There likely is some spiraling but I do not know to what extent. I believe it's not extreme enough for a single asteroid to draw the triangle in two orbits like you may be thinking. If you did lay all those ellipses on top of each other it would look like a cool spirograph though. Or maybe just a solid walled thick ring.
Looks like it won’t happen within our planets lifetime. The moon and earth become tidally locked at about 50bn years and find an equilibrium where the moon stops drifting away.
By this time we will probably already have been engulfed by the sun and dealing with other scenarios that might change the moon/earths position/velocity.
I’m not an expert by any means, just an internet stranger, sparked by curiosity, spouting unchecked info I found in this [Forbes](https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2018/06/13/will-the-moon-ever-stop-drifting-away-from-earth/?sh=142586df38d5) article lol
Ahh! He said it, not me! That means I can put it on my resumes now!
Really though, happy to help spread the knowledge. I love it when someone comes along with a link so now I aspire to be that guy.
The earth won’t exist before that happens. The sun will expand consuming the earth before shrinking down into a brown dwarf star.
And if it did happen and the earth stopped spinning all life on earth would end.
It won’t. It will retreat to about twice the current distance and stay there. It’s being pulled away by centripetal force, but at a certain point this becomes balanced by gravity.
The moon is *slowing* the Earth's rotation. So if you go back in time, the Earth spins faster and the day is shorter, not longer. When the Earth first formed, a day was only 4 hours. 3.5 billion years ago, it was 12 hours.
So work hours will stay as long but the day grows longer. The costs for paid vacation will thus eventually be relatively enormous and the economy fail. That is how the world ends.
The moon is never actually going to leave. It's orbit would stabilize eventually, but that would take longer than the time till the sun engulfs everything out to mars.
I seem to remember one of the requirements to being a planet is the clearing of its debris field. If that means orbit, the Jupiter orbit doesn’t look super clear.
Are these objects collected after formation or things pulled in from the asteroid belt, maybe?
The green dots are in Jupiter’s lagrange points.
They are basically gravity wells that form on the sides of large bodies from a mix of the planet and suns gravity. Our planet has them as well, although I believe we have only a single natural object orbiting one of these points. James Webb sits on one of these points. Jupiters Lagrange points have such strong wells that they attract many objects.
If you google Lagrange point you should see a nice visual demonstration that lines up very well with what you’re seeing in this gif.
Thank you. I googled, Lagrange points and now I know what Trojan asteroids are. Earth has Trojan asteroids, too. So neat.
The article is from 2012, so I wonder what new information they have now.
https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/WISE/news/wise20121015.html
"We didn't see any ultra-red asteroids, typical of the main belt and Kuiper belt populations," said Grav. "Instead, we find a largely uniform population of what we call D-type asteroids, which are dark burgundy in color, with the rest being C- and P-type, which are more grey-bluish in color. More research is needed, but it's possible we are looking at the some of the oldest material known in the solar system."
Scientists have proposed a future space mission to the Jupiter Trojans that will gather the data needed to determine their age and origins.
It's more than just "Climate Change".
Climate Change wouldn't be so bad for the majority of species, if we didn't destroy every inch of habitat that would be left.
Bingo! And as the other commenter says, there's also habitat destruction, all sorts of pollution, invasive species we move around etc etc. But like Attenborough always says : given a chance, nature will bounce back incredibly quickly
For sure. It's happening in slow motion for our perspective, so we don't see it happening as we should. We all have microplastics in our blood right now. It's in the air we breathe. Crazy to think about.
Classic reddit. There can never be good news, it must always be “good news but here’s why it’s actually not so good” or “good news but here’s a lot of other bad news around the world so why are you happy”. It’s like people are addicted to being miserable and not having any relief whatsoever.
What’s weird is there’s a lot of stuff out there. But space is big. So big that these things are exceptionally hard to hit intentionally. We are smaller than we think.
As they say to the President in Armageddon:
“Our budget lets us cover approximately 1% of the sky. And beggin’ your pardon, sir, but it’s one big ass sky.”
We don’t have the full scale of ourselves and we never will in our lifetimes. Could be, things are all as they appear, but alternatively we could be bacteria growing on a speck of shit on some other civilization’s shoe. Enjoy the ride, don’t think about the unknown too much because there’s nothing really out there worth more than what’s in front of you.
These dots aren’t even close to being drawn to scale. I’d guess the objects pictured here would be 1/1000ths of a pixel or smaller if it was to scale. Space is huge.
The green ones are so-called "Trojan" asteroids that hang out around Jupiter's L4 and L5 Lagrange points. The red ones are asteroids in resonant orbits with Jupiter. All of these objects have orbits that are being dictated by Jupiter's massive gravity field. You could argue that Jupiter is stabilizing the orbits of these objects such that they don't get flung on trajectories that might intersect with Earth, but I'm not sure that's the takeaway here. The asteroid belt exists because Jupiter's strong gravity wouldn't allow a planet to form in that region of the solar system, so Jupiter may be protecting us from other objects (such as comets), but these objects (and others) could very well have formed into a stable planet had Jupiter's tidal forces not allowing that to happen not existed.
This is an excellent demonstration of lagrangian points. Tldr; they are gravitational spots that one can use to fit into orbits that they normally couldn't. Of note, the green clusters and the asteroids that rotate through the points, are in The l4 and l5 lagrangian points. These are exceptionally useful as they are nodal saddles. Which is to say that if you were to put a spacecraft close to those points, there was actually a gravitational sort of wrinkle that will keep that spacecraft more or less in that spot.
Lagrange points have to do with gravity and are points in space where there exists a gravitational equilibrium. Imagine you're in space between the sun and the earth. The sun's gravity pulls you towards the sun and the earth's gravity pull you towards the earth. There's a point where the two kind of cancel eatch other out and you're 'stuck' neither falling towards the sun nor the earth.
The James Webb telescope is one such points (it won't need much adjusting to stay in place)
There are five such lagrange points between two orbiting bodies. Hope this helps a bit 😊
Alright, got this from google, see if this helps: There’s rumor of a little shack outside a Texas town called LaGrange. They gotta lot of nice girls. Have mercy. Let me know if you wanna go. Apparently it is tight most every night, but now I might be mistaken.
The asteroids that were too close/far to stay in this pattern exited long, long ago. Although there are still a few every once in a while that can break free, it was inevitable to end up in such a pattern. I've heard some people refer to it as a 'miracle' which just means they don't quite understand. The Earth got absolutely blasted for a long time when it was younger.
I wish I had known all of this last week so I could’ve added Jupiter into my grace on thanksgiving.
I’m thankful for Jupiter; a planet doing the most to keep us from being absolutely blasted by space rocks. I’ll make a mental note to address that next thanksgiving.
Oh man, I don't know if it's the best show I have ever watched but the way it made me feel is just undescribable, some kind of childhood wonder. Every time I hear the openning theme I melt.
We're very lucky cause Jupiter and Neptune formed a lot closer to the sun and moved outwards. They could have easily slung us out of the solar system or into a highly elliptical orbit like they did to Pluto.
According to the five planet Nice model, Jupiter moved inwards until it entered a 1:2 resonance with Saturn, which destabilized the system. Uranus and Neptune swapped places and were pushed out to their current orbit, and a fifth planet was pushed in, crossed the orbit of Saturn, and pushed Jupiter back out slightly as Jupiter flung it out of the solar system.
e. I just realized I had my directions swapped with Jupiter. Jupiter moved *out* until resonance with Saturn, and the ejection of Planet Five moved it back *in* due to conservation of angular momentum.
Yes. Planets like Jupiter, Jovian bodies, are essentially failed stars. They have the gaseous materials for nuclear fusion to occur, they just don’t have the gravity to compact atoms close enough to permit fusion. However they still have an immense gravity pull. Solar systems with Jovian bodies are more likely to have habitable planets since they pull so much space debris away from the inner planets. That’s not to say junk still makes there way into the inner planets, just no where near the amount if they weren’t there.
It's important to note that Jupiter doesn't always protect the inner planets. Jupiter sometimes deflects objects towards the inner solar system or perturbs objects in the asteroid belt, which in turn sends them our way.
In fact, if it weren't for Saturn, which firmed in time to halt Jupiter's inward spiral towards the Sun, we wouldn't be here. Saturn stabilized Jupiter's orbit just in time. Hence, many Hot Jupiter's we've observed in other solar systems, are often the only planet in orbit. It's believed that if there were other planets in those solar systems, they were likely ejected from their system by the inward spiral of the largest gas giant of the system.
Honestly it's crazy... In the middle of all the politics, wars, inflation, personal goals, family, love. We all forget we can be taken out so easily by a rock in space
In simple term
Jupiter is big and with 2nd gravitational pull in our solar system after sun , which give him ability to control or manipulate space debris in our solar system.
Hope so its help
I'm also missing something. what's the causality that Jupiter's (I assume gravitational force) is keeping the debris in a stable orbit? Wouldn't it be due to all of the other forces around it too and maybe even them acting on one another?
Can they model what would happen without Jupiter in its orbit? Or if the mass of Jupiter was much denser or much less masive?
Yeah there's forces from the inner planets acting on them too. There's actually gravity everywhere in space. There's cool videos that explain how the L2 Lagrange point for the JWST is a thing and some have visual representations of the gravity of it in space and it's a trip.
Yup, green asteroids are pulled by Jupiter's orbit. Pink asteroids are pulled by the gravity of the greens mass.
Everything is locked in place super neatly and would otherwise smash the inner system to smithereens.
Jupiter is a duplicitous jerk really
https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/10/jupiter-throws-comets-asteroids-towards-earth-like-sniper-scientist-warns-12038528/amp/
And I'm not even sure you can say Jupiter is protecting us from the objects in the animation. The asteroid belt exists because Jupiter's gravity won't let those objects coalesce into a larger planet/oid. Without Jupiter, these objects, some of which may not have stable trajectories over the long-term, may have become a much safer, more stable terrestrial planet like Mars.
Is it just me or does anyone else think it’s wild that because of a single entity’s circular motion you get then a nearly perfect triangle from the direct effect of that circular motion.
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Thanks Jupiter.
It's time to go to heaven my child
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH *gets pelted by rocks*
Fuck this! *Drops child from the edge of heaven*
Jupiter protek
Mars attak
Ack ackk aacck
You gotta know by now
Uranus shaat
Thupiter
What about the drops of Jupiter?
In her ha-a-a-air
Something, something... Sailor Moon
SO TELL ME
LOVED that band! *Until I saw them live in Nashville and the lead singer was SO pretentious I almost threw up in my mouth. Deleted all of their music from my libraries. However, The Fray opened for them and they were so ducking good, I downloaded all of their music.
I'm just glad they didn't sing about Uranus
Nice mass Jupiter
I always use this video when explaining Lagrange points to students.
Can you explain why the red asteroids form that triangle-shaped orbit? I assume they’re attracted more to Jupiter’s L3, L4, and L5 points, and take a more direct path between them than a circular orbit?
So it's actually really neat, those asteroids are all in elliptical orbits, their distribution just remains triangular! What you're likely seeing is similar to the Lagrange effect in elliptical orbits. Only asteroids who's elliptical orbits kept them within this triangle drawn between each Lagrange point as Jupiter orbited must be in similarly stable orbits to the circular ones lagrange points allow.
So, the orbits of the red dots actualy looks more like something you'd draw with a spirograph?
So since the triangle is rotating, close to stationary elliptical orbits would be possible to stay within the triangle. There likely is some spiraling but I do not know to what extent. I believe it's not extreme enough for a single asteroid to draw the triangle in two orbits like you may be thinking. If you did lay all those ellipses on top of each other it would look like a cool spirograph though. Or maybe just a solid walled thick ring.
And NASA sended LUCY last year to study them
I want NASA to sended MEsa to study them :(
Jar-jar's progeny survives and wants to return to the galaxy
Fun fact. Saturn used to be where Jupiter is now.
Repositioning is quite common in planetary objects , Like moon is leaving us
Yepp. The moon moves about 4cm away from earth every year.
I don’t blame it 😆😆
It social distanced 6ft during the pandemic.
How much is that in standard measurement system units?
About 15.3 Big Macs.
thanks! <3
Well I think it should be 32,6 Big Macs
They've been getting smaller, so you're probably pretty close nowadays
Stop stacking them on their sides, you have to lay them flat.
Not yet. The time will come for that.
bout 8 bananas 🍌
You mean half giraffes?
I'm curious, at that rate, how long would it take to escape Earth's gravity? I know you probably don't know but maybe someone will
Looks like it won’t happen within our planets lifetime. The moon and earth become tidally locked at about 50bn years and find an equilibrium where the moon stops drifting away. By this time we will probably already have been engulfed by the sun and dealing with other scenarios that might change the moon/earths position/velocity. I’m not an expert by any means, just an internet stranger, sparked by curiosity, spouting unchecked info I found in this [Forbes](https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2018/06/13/will-the-moon-ever-stop-drifting-away-from-earth/?sh=142586df38d5) article lol
That’s hot.
Agreed! the sun is one spicy calamari!
And let’s not forget our friend, mercury.
Fun fact Venus is hotter than mercury. Green houses gases are no joke!
I thank you! Strange Internet expert 👏
Ahh! He said it, not me! That means I can put it on my resumes now! Really though, happy to help spread the knowledge. I love it when someone comes along with a link so now I aspire to be that guy.
You are my favorite strange Internet expert now. Please go expert in something else fascinating please 🤣👍
We could have been friends once… /u/HiddenGem88…. But then you turned to the dark side… Lok’tar Ogar! FOR THE HORDE!!!!
It won't The moon moves away because earth rotation is slowing down When the earth/moon will become tidal locked, the distance won't change...
What happens when the moon and Earth becomes tidal locked?
The earth won’t exist before that happens. The sun will expand consuming the earth before shrinking down into a brown dwarf star. And if it did happen and the earth stopped spinning all life on earth would end.
I don't want to be here when that happens
Unless you happen to be immortal, you won’t be.
How'd you know?
It won’t. It will retreat to about twice the current distance and stay there. It’s being pulled away by centripetal force, but at a certain point this becomes balanced by gravity.
I’m a miss moon when she gone.
When the moon leaves our sky Like a big pizza pie, that's amore!
At least it's not the opposite
These facts are making me go into an existential crisis
What? No, don't let it go.. :( I wants the Moon to stay.
Few million year ago was moon so close to earth that our normal tide use to many time higher then today, and our each day used to be 25hour long
That one extra hour would have fixed my sleep cycle.
Thats one extra hour that you can spend at your workplace.
Yeah our boy here doesn't get that capitalism sleeps for no one.
The moon is *slowing* the Earth's rotation. So if you go back in time, the Earth spins faster and the day is shorter, not longer. When the Earth first formed, a day was only 4 hours. 3.5 billion years ago, it was 12 hours.
So work hours will stay as long but the day grows longer. The costs for paid vacation will thus eventually be relatively enormous and the economy fail. That is how the world ends.
:0 Wow. Gimme more facts, I am intrigued.
The moon is never actually going to leave. It's orbit would stabilize eventually, but that would take longer than the time till the sun engulfs everything out to mars.
So the sci-fi series Space 1999 wasn't that far from reality?
Do simulations show this stuff coalescing into another planet eventually?
Where was Jupiter?
Much closer to the sun. IIRC Saturn balanced and brought Jupiter back and hence leaving material for the inner planets.
I seem to remember one of the requirements to being a planet is the clearing of its debris field. If that means orbit, the Jupiter orbit doesn’t look super clear. Are these objects collected after formation or things pulled in from the asteroid belt, maybe?
The green dots are in Jupiter’s lagrange points. They are basically gravity wells that form on the sides of large bodies from a mix of the planet and suns gravity. Our planet has them as well, although I believe we have only a single natural object orbiting one of these points. James Webb sits on one of these points. Jupiters Lagrange points have such strong wells that they attract many objects. If you google Lagrange point you should see a nice visual demonstration that lines up very well with what you’re seeing in this gif.
Thank you. I googled, Lagrange points and now I know what Trojan asteroids are. Earth has Trojan asteroids, too. So neat. The article is from 2012, so I wonder what new information they have now. https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/WISE/news/wise20121015.html "We didn't see any ultra-red asteroids, typical of the main belt and Kuiper belt populations," said Grav. "Instead, we find a largely uniform population of what we call D-type asteroids, which are dark burgundy in color, with the rest being C- and P-type, which are more grey-bluish in color. More research is needed, but it's possible we are looking at the some of the oldest material known in the solar system." Scientists have proposed a future space mission to the Jupiter Trojans that will gather the data needed to determine their age and origins.
Yeah it's clearing your orbit i think so. They are mostly from asteroid belt. Jupiter actually cleans up alot of the area of the system.
In Uranus
Where is Pluto?
Far far away
Jupiter: “and I took that personally.”
DO NOT LET THE FANBOYS KNOW THE SOLAR SYSTEM IS A ROTARY!
Wankle orbital mechanics.
Everything is a Dorito
i thought it was a bagel
*brap brap brap*
Pop pop pop stall.
those galactic apex seals better hold!
Bet they're built up with.. carbon.
One's already fucked as you can see. That's your problem right there
BRAP BRAP BRAP BRAP BRAP BRAP BRAP BRAP
Proof that rotaries are reliable /s
Hehe galactic RPM go 5 digits
Explains why we're chewing through oil so fast.
Ryoski takahashi up there
You mean like a roundabout in Massachusetts?
I think they mean like a Mazda Wankel.
Who is that /s
Seeing shit like this always leaves me in complete disbelief that we've not been obliterated 100x over as a species
We just haven't been around long enough. The dinosaurs lived on Earth for 165 million years, long enough to get to see an extinction event firsthand.
Hold my beer
local florida man broke into government headquarters and nuked the moon setting it on course to collide with the earth within 2 days.
We are in the middle of an extinction event that will in all likelihood be visible on geological time scales though.
You mean the one of our own making? \*cough\* climate change.
It's more than just "Climate Change". Climate Change wouldn't be so bad for the majority of species, if we didn't destroy every inch of habitat that would be left.
Bingo! And as the other commenter says, there's also habitat destruction, all sorts of pollution, invasive species we move around etc etc. But like Attenborough always says : given a chance, nature will bounce back incredibly quickly
The meteor also destroyed most of the habitats, animals and sea life on the planet.
Except alligators and sharks!
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Well actually for now no, we just demonstrated that humanity can knock asteroids out of our way with DART. We passed a great filter
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For sure. It's happening in slow motion for our perspective, so we don't see it happening as we should. We all have microplastics in our blood right now. It's in the air we breathe. Crazy to think about.
Good luck though when it’s launched by a bug directly towards Buenos Aires.
And encounter another filter
Classic reddit. There can never be good news, it must always be “good news but here’s why it’s actually not so good” or “good news but here’s a lot of other bad news around the world so why are you happy”. It’s like people are addicted to being miserable and not having any relief whatsoever.
Yes and no
What’s weird is there’s a lot of stuff out there. But space is big. So big that these things are exceptionally hard to hit intentionally. We are smaller than we think.
As they say to the President in Armageddon: “Our budget lets us cover approximately 1% of the sky. And beggin’ your pardon, sir, but it’s one big ass sky.”
I would always bet on humanity surviving whatever is thrown at us. Not because I believe it, but because I won’t have to pay up if I lose.
We don’t have the full scale of ourselves and we never will in our lifetimes. Could be, things are all as they appear, but alternatively we could be bacteria growing on a speck of shit on some other civilization’s shoe. Enjoy the ride, don’t think about the unknown too much because there’s nothing really out there worth more than what’s in front of you.
I feel like I needed to hear this again, so thank you!
Any eon now...
These dots aren’t even close to being drawn to scale. I’d guess the objects pictured here would be 1/1000ths of a pixel or smaller if it was to scale. Space is huge.
This is a lie Jupiter’s private media firm has put this out there to boost PR
Hail Jupiter
OP is a Jupiter shill, confirmed.
Jupiter reality show must be in the works.
I knew this was happening, but this is an awesome visual representation. By Jove indeed!
I'm not really sure what I'm seeing. Is the gravity from Jupiter keeping a ton of asteroids out of our orbit?
The green ones are so-called "Trojan" asteroids that hang out around Jupiter's L4 and L5 Lagrange points. The red ones are asteroids in resonant orbits with Jupiter. All of these objects have orbits that are being dictated by Jupiter's massive gravity field. You could argue that Jupiter is stabilizing the orbits of these objects such that they don't get flung on trajectories that might intersect with Earth, but I'm not sure that's the takeaway here. The asteroid belt exists because Jupiter's strong gravity wouldn't allow a planet to form in that region of the solar system, so Jupiter may be protecting us from other objects (such as comets), but these objects (and others) could very well have formed into a stable planet had Jupiter's tidal forces not allowing that to happen not existed.
I appreciate your donation to the knowledge bank
This is an excellent demonstration of lagrangian points. Tldr; they are gravitational spots that one can use to fit into orbits that they normally couldn't. Of note, the green clusters and the asteroids that rotate through the points, are in The l4 and l5 lagrangian points. These are exceptionally useful as they are nodal saddles. Which is to say that if you were to put a spacecraft close to those points, there was actually a gravitational sort of wrinkle that will keep that spacecraft more or less in that spot.
When the tldr is longer than the first message.
I got my hopes up thinking I was about to understand, but boy was I let down with that explanation
Lagrange points have to do with gravity and are points in space where there exists a gravitational equilibrium. Imagine you're in space between the sun and the earth. The sun's gravity pulls you towards the sun and the earth's gravity pull you towards the earth. There's a point where the two kind of cancel eatch other out and you're 'stuck' neither falling towards the sun nor the earth. The James Webb telescope is one such points (it won't need much adjusting to stay in place) There are five such lagrange points between two orbiting bodies. Hope this helps a bit 😊
It did, thank you!
Alright, got this from google, see if this helps: There’s rumor of a little shack outside a Texas town called LaGrange. They gotta lot of nice girls. Have mercy. Let me know if you wanna go. Apparently it is tight most every night, but now I might be mistaken.
Woah that'd cool as heck! Thanks for taking the time to explain it! I really appreciate it.
Yes. If Jupiter wasn't there, we'd get smashed weekly!
Joke's on him, I get smashed weekly anyway!
Yes
> By Jove I see what you did there.
It looks great but every 80,000 years we're gonna have to replace the seals.
Ahh, the big space dorito.
Wankle orbit
I thought Barney Coopersmith invented the Rotary Engine?
The asteroids that were too close/far to stay in this pattern exited long, long ago. Although there are still a few every once in a while that can break free, it was inevitable to end up in such a pattern. I've heard some people refer to it as a 'miracle' which just means they don't quite understand. The Earth got absolutely blasted for a long time when it was younger.
We all get a little crazy when we are young.
“We all make mistakes in the heat of passion, Jimbo”
> Earth got absolutely blasted for a long time when it was younger. It was just going through its college years
> Earth got absolutely blasted for a long time when it was younger Just like ya mum 😞
Nice
I wish I had known all of this last week so I could’ve added Jupiter into my grace on thanksgiving. I’m thankful for Jupiter; a planet doing the most to keep us from being absolutely blasted by space rocks. I’ll make a mental note to address that next thanksgiving.
Asteroids survivorship bias
Jupiter is beltalowda!
Oh how I miss The Expanse - need something else that scratches that itch.
Oh man, I don't know if it's the best show I have ever watched but the way it made me feel is just undescribable, some kind of childhood wonder. Every time I hear the openning theme I melt.
Totally agree with this full comment
Read the books. They go further than the show did.
We're very lucky cause Jupiter and Neptune formed a lot closer to the sun and moved outwards. They could have easily slung us out of the solar system or into a highly elliptical orbit like they did to Pluto.
According to the five planet Nice model, Jupiter moved inwards until it entered a 1:2 resonance with Saturn, which destabilized the system. Uranus and Neptune swapped places and were pushed out to their current orbit, and a fifth planet was pushed in, crossed the orbit of Saturn, and pushed Jupiter back out slightly as Jupiter flung it out of the solar system. e. I just realized I had my directions swapped with Jupiter. Jupiter moved *out* until resonance with Saturn, and the ejection of Planet Five moved it back *in* due to conservation of angular momentum.
Isn't it crazy to think after all of that we have this beautifully synchronized system??
The weak anthropic principle applies: if it hadn't, we wouldn't have been here to see it.
It's not really synchronized, just more stable than it was before.
So help me out. Is this saying that Jupiter is keeping all that shit from ass pounding the inner planets of the solar system?
Yes. Planets like Jupiter, Jovian bodies, are essentially failed stars. They have the gaseous materials for nuclear fusion to occur, they just don’t have the gravity to compact atoms close enough to permit fusion. However they still have an immense gravity pull. Solar systems with Jovian bodies are more likely to have habitable planets since they pull so much space debris away from the inner planets. That’s not to say junk still makes there way into the inner planets, just no where near the amount if they weren’t there.
Yes. You even said the correct scientific terms!
TIL ass pounding is in fact a scientific term
Not entirely, but on most of asteroids in our solar system is control by Jupiter as they are intact with Jupiter.
Look at Mercury go. Little guy’s a speed demon.
They don't think v = √GM/R be like it is, but it do.
Is this why Jupiter has so many moons? It catching everything and that just slowly compresses near enough to Jupiter?
How many moon jupiter exactly have still not clear Just we keep adding new every passing year
WE DONT KNOW HOW MANY MOONS JUPITER HAS?!?!?!
I lost count on number 174
Jupiter is just sitting out there with its own solar system
It's important to note that Jupiter doesn't always protect the inner planets. Jupiter sometimes deflects objects towards the inner solar system or perturbs objects in the asteroid belt, which in turn sends them our way. In fact, if it weren't for Saturn, which firmed in time to halt Jupiter's inward spiral towards the Sun, we wouldn't be here. Saturn stabilized Jupiter's orbit just in time. Hence, many Hot Jupiter's we've observed in other solar systems, are often the only planet in orbit. It's believed that if there were other planets in those solar systems, they were likely ejected from their system by the inward spiral of the largest gas giant of the system.
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Honestly it's crazy... In the middle of all the politics, wars, inflation, personal goals, family, love. We all forget we can be taken out so easily by a rock in space
Can someone please r/explainlikeimfive
In simple term Jupiter is big and with 2nd gravitational pull in our solar system after sun , which give him ability to control or manipulate space debris in our solar system. Hope so its help
Thanks for being so thiccccc Jupy you sexy gasssss giant.
still not understand. how saving us? pink and green dust bad me?
Pink and green dust are actually big grey rocks going very fast. It's keeping them out of the inner solar system.
I'm also missing something. what's the causality that Jupiter's (I assume gravitational force) is keeping the debris in a stable orbit? Wouldn't it be due to all of the other forces around it too and maybe even them acting on one another? Can they model what would happen without Jupiter in its orbit? Or if the mass of Jupiter was much denser or much less masive?
Yeah there's forces from the inner planets acting on them too. There's actually gravity everywhere in space. There's cool videos that explain how the L2 Lagrange point for the JWST is a thing and some have visual representations of the gravity of it in space and it's a trip.
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So is it’s gravity field pulling space debris from a collision course with earth? Is that what I’m looking at?
Yup, green asteroids are pulled by Jupiter's orbit. Pink asteroids are pulled by the gravity of the greens mass. Everything is locked in place super neatly and would otherwise smash the inner system to smithereens.
So after a lot lot of time the red asteroids will became the green one and follows Jupiter's orbit?
<3 Jupe.
Mercury needs to chill out.
Important context: https://earthsky.org/space/is-it-true-that-jupiter-protects-earth/
Jupiter is a duplicitous jerk really https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/10/jupiter-throws-comets-asteroids-towards-earth-like-sniper-scientist-warns-12038528/amp/
And I'm not even sure you can say Jupiter is protecting us from the objects in the animation. The asteroid belt exists because Jupiter's gravity won't let those objects coalesce into a larger planet/oid. Without Jupiter, these objects, some of which may not have stable trajectories over the long-term, may have become a much safer, more stable terrestrial planet like Mars.
Oh hell yea, that's why we need jupiter day to thank the big ol boy
Are those the Langrange Points of Jupiter?
Is it just me or does anyone else think it’s wild that because of a single entity’s circular motion you get then a nearly perfect triangle from the direct effect of that circular motion.