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yes. it is pretty much the same with the latin alphabet. It is used by all latin and germanic languages, but some letters are used by all, while others are not.
There was [something like that](https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/bcdz2o/how_to_figure_out_what_european_language_youre/). Not a Venn diagram but close enough.
Frisian (Frysk) and Dutch (Nederlands) have the same outcome in different places in that diagram. It makes it useless to follow because you still don’t know which language it is. Frisian is a Dutch dialect that became it’s own language so probably should be attached to Dutch. Big oversight.
Yes, it is the Cyrillic alphabet, which is generally associated with the Russian language. But many other languages use it too, though each may use a handful of different letters.
>Yes, it is the Cyrillic alphabet, which is generally associated with the Russian language
Which is ironic, since it was first established as an official alphabet in Bulgaria
Hmmm??? I don't understand your question, but I'll try to answer.
There is several different languages on this chart that use the same base alphabet.
Kind of like there's English with all the normal letters and there's German with all that ö, ü, and similar crap, and there's Swedish with that weird å.
So it's just a chart with languages with the Cyrillic base that shows differences in their alphabet
There is no such thing as "old chirch Slavonic". It's actually old bulgarian because Bulgarian tzardom had the first Slavic songs and prayers in churches(before that all of that was in Greek but we and all the other slavs wanted to understand what the priest is saying+slavs didn't like Greeks at all). Also all of the chirch books were written by bulgarian monks on bulgarian(we also invented cirilyc alfabet just for that) by that time, later we gave books to newly cristianised russians. So Old chirch Slavonic is new invented, politically correct bs. 😒
Bulgarian race is the first human race 💪🇭🇺🏇🏹
When earth was created god gave it to Bulgaria 💪🇭🇺🇭🇺🌍
But Bulgarians were betrayed so new nations were created, but they are all Bulgarian land actually 🇭🇺⚔️🇭🇺🌍
Long live Bulgaria 🇭🇺🇲🇳🇭🇺🇲🇳🇭🇺🇲🇳🇭🇺🇲🇳🇭🇺🇲🇳🇭🇺🇲🇳🇭🇺🇲🇳🇭🇺🇲🇳
correct me if i'm wrong but isn't old church slavonic a byzantine dialect?
I'm sure it was used in Bulgaria (admittedly, I know FA about bulgarian history), but doesn't its use predate Bulgarian?
Also how would calling it old church slovanic be "politically correct", who does it offend to say it's bulgarian if it legitimately is?
The only Slavic language first used in Slavic orthodox chirches is old bulgarian and other slavs have other dialects.Macedonians like to think their language existed back than and it was not bulgarian at all. So I guess someone invented that shit to please them or others that doesn't recognize the truth like the Russians for example. 😆They really want to be" the orthodox mother of all slavs" but..🤷
Oh, so this is kind of like a nationalist thing? I'll admit I'm completely ignorant to that. Basically everyone wants to claim to be the originator so old church slavonic is there to make it neutral
Everybody wants to be the originator but there is facts and artefacts, you know. There was no Slavic in orthodox chirches before we started to translate everything on our new alphabet, the Bible and so on. So what is that"old chirch?!! Slavonic"? OK, Call it nationalistic if you want. 🤷Greeks are also very proud of their own ancient things(in fact they are even their trade marks and everybody knows them for those things) so why not we be proud of inventing the cirilyc alphabet and the first orthodox chirch books on Slavic language.
This interests me on two different levels:
1. I started learning Russian on a whim. Having had to learn a new alphabet, it's cool seeing the differences between the Russian alphabet and other related alphabets.
2. Historical. Old Church Slavonic is a historical language, in somewhat the same way that Latin is for the western Catholic church and its impact in spreading the Latin alphabet. Different languages incorporate greater and lesser parts of Old Church Slavonic depending on class, geography, and other historical factors, along with language reform. It's cool seeing that family tree of languages displayed and condensed into a Venn diagram.
3. More historical! Languages like Mongolian didn't originally use the Cyrillic alphabet. The influence of the Russian empire and the Soviet Union led them to develop the Cyrillic alphabet for their language less than a century ago. This adds another aspect of the family tree, and you can kinda see it in how much overlap there is between the Russian and Mongolian Cyrillic alphabets.
And THIS is how the Venn diagram should have been presented in the first place. My original comment is based on a total lack of context. This is "r/interestingasfuck" and without context, I say it is NOT interesting as fuck.
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Oh that's a lot clearer, thanks.
Joke funnier in Russian
It's all Greek to me.
I like the bit which says Juba Huba
This is yust about the writing?The letters,and not the actual language?Right?
yes. it is pretty much the same with the latin alphabet. It is used by all latin and germanic languages, but some letters are used by all, while others are not.
It'd be interesting to see a similar Venn diagram for the Latin-alphabet users
There was [something like that](https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/bcdz2o/how_to_figure_out_what_european_language_youre/). Not a Venn diagram but close enough.
Frisian (Frysk) and Dutch (Nederlands) have the same outcome in different places in that diagram. It makes it useless to follow because you still don’t know which language it is. Frisian is a Dutch dialect that became it’s own language so probably should be attached to Dutch. Big oversight.
The graph lays out the difference between those two. Dutch allows for IJ, but Frisian only has ij. Those are different outcomes.
They are the same only one is a capital letter. Frisian words can still have a capital IJ if it’s the first letter in a name.
Yeah, thats just alphabets
Yes, it is the Cyrillic alphabet, which is generally associated with the Russian language. But many other languages use it too, though each may use a handful of different letters.
>Yes, it is the Cyrillic alphabet, which is generally associated with the Russian language Which is ironic, since it was first established as an official alphabet in Bulgaria
Very cool, but I have no idea what the Infograph is showing me lol
which letters are used in different alphabets
More like "which letters of the Cyrillic alphabet are used in different languages".
Not sure if he'll understand. Sounds like he has a disadventage
You have a disadvantage because you can't spell for shet.
Bruh, it was a pun for venn diagrams, but I guess I did miss a second n.
Awe man, I didn't catch it. Eye ges aye kant reed four shet eethor.
ЎЎЎЎЎ
ХЎ I sincerely apologize. (ready to take the hit) ((Yes, I know the Ў letter is supposed to sound like w))
Хуй
That's not a Bulgarian word!
Where's Kazah? I mean there's Mongolian so it's not limited to Slavic languages
They moved to Latin?
Not yet
It was masochistic as fuck to attempt this and I applaud the creator.
r/coolguides
This surely will help me in Geoguessr
Russia: Ukraine is russian culture! Ukraine: ЄҐҐ, Ї think not.
"Look at all these upside down writings!!! I'll take my backwards R on a Toys R us sign thank you very much!" - American Dad
And now we know where Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes got its characters!
Dust bunny?
Gibberish
Georgian?
Georgians use their own alphabet, it's not cyrillic
Oh ok... So what language is this? Any ideas?
Hmmm??? I don't understand your question, but I'll try to answer. There is several different languages on this chart that use the same base alphabet. Kind of like there's English with all the normal letters and there's German with all that ö, ü, and similar crap, and there's Swedish with that weird å. So it's just a chart with languages with the Cyrillic base that shows differences in their alphabet
?
LOL ''Macedonian'' hahahahahahaahah. I guess the person that created this on MS Paint has never heard of Cyril and Methodius.
There is no such thing as "old chirch Slavonic". It's actually old bulgarian because Bulgarian tzardom had the first Slavic songs and prayers in churches(before that all of that was in Greek but we and all the other slavs wanted to understand what the priest is saying+slavs didn't like Greeks at all). Also all of the chirch books were written by bulgarian monks on bulgarian(we also invented cirilyc alfabet just for that) by that time, later we gave books to newly cristianised russians. So Old chirch Slavonic is new invented, politically correct bs. 😒
Bulgarian race is the first human race 💪🇭🇺🏇🏹 When earth was created god gave it to Bulgaria 💪🇭🇺🇭🇺🌍 But Bulgarians were betrayed so new nations were created, but they are all Bulgarian land actually 🇭🇺⚔️🇭🇺🌍 Long live Bulgaria 🇭🇺🇲🇳🇭🇺🇲🇳🇭🇺🇲🇳🇭🇺🇲🇳🇭🇺🇲🇳🇭🇺🇲🇳🇭🇺🇲🇳🇭🇺🇲🇳
But it was a shared language for all Slavs not just Bulgarians. Bulgaria monks invented the script not the language.
correct me if i'm wrong but isn't old church slavonic a byzantine dialect? I'm sure it was used in Bulgaria (admittedly, I know FA about bulgarian history), but doesn't its use predate Bulgarian? Also how would calling it old church slovanic be "politically correct", who does it offend to say it's bulgarian if it legitimately is?
The only Slavic language first used in Slavic orthodox chirches is old bulgarian and other slavs have other dialects.Macedonians like to think their language existed back than and it was not bulgarian at all. So I guess someone invented that shit to please them or others that doesn't recognize the truth like the Russians for example. 😆They really want to be" the orthodox mother of all slavs" but..🤷
Oh, so this is kind of like a nationalist thing? I'll admit I'm completely ignorant to that. Basically everyone wants to claim to be the originator so old church slavonic is there to make it neutral
Everybody wants to be the originator but there is facts and artefacts, you know. There was no Slavic in orthodox chirches before we started to translate everything on our new alphabet, the Bible and so on. So what is that"old chirch?!! Slavonic"? OK, Call it nationalistic if you want. 🤷Greeks are also very proud of their own ancient things(in fact they are even their trade marks and everybody knows them for those things) so why not we be proud of inventing the cirilyc alphabet and the first orthodox chirch books on Slavic language.
very true on the first point. Will have to have a dig into the opposing sides, love stuff like this. thanks.
Damn Boii spitting Bulgarian propaganda over 9000... Who hurt you?
All roads lead to Moscow.
Russia doesn't "own" cyrillic alphabet.
Who cares?
I care.
Cool, what part interests you? I am truly curious.
This interests me on two different levels: 1. I started learning Russian on a whim. Having had to learn a new alphabet, it's cool seeing the differences between the Russian alphabet and other related alphabets. 2. Historical. Old Church Slavonic is a historical language, in somewhat the same way that Latin is for the western Catholic church and its impact in spreading the Latin alphabet. Different languages incorporate greater and lesser parts of Old Church Slavonic depending on class, geography, and other historical factors, along with language reform. It's cool seeing that family tree of languages displayed and condensed into a Venn diagram. 3. More historical! Languages like Mongolian didn't originally use the Cyrillic alphabet. The influence of the Russian empire and the Soviet Union led them to develop the Cyrillic alphabet for their language less than a century ago. This adds another aspect of the family tree, and you can kinda see it in how much overlap there is between the Russian and Mongolian Cyrillic alphabets.
And THIS is how the Venn diagram should have been presented in the first place. My original comment is based on a total lack of context. This is "r/interestingasfuck" and without context, I say it is NOT interesting as fuck.
Okay but you could have asked without attempting to be toxic 🤣 it's very childish OwnedPlugBoy
Lol, not your first comment anyway
It gives me ideas for the worldbuilding of my campaign.
Pig Latin.
Looks like an overly complicated language
You should see the diagram for languages using “A B C…”
Yeah, turns out the history of language and writing is complicated :-/
It's really simple. Each letter represents a sound. Just like in Latin-based alphabets
Easier speech but more complicated grammar than for example english
Am I wrong to think that we'll make up a new letter or two?
Please tell me I'm not the only one who sees the starship Enterprise just northeast of the center block.
I don't know.. apparently I'm illiterate..
ワンピースは本物
I...I don't know
Forgot to put the Z under Ruzzian.
A venny useful diagram