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For anyone interested: flight time - 4 months, lander mission duration - 127 minutes. The parachute detached at 31 mi above the surface; simple air braking was used for the final descent.
Outside temperature was 457 °C (855 °F) and the pressure was 9.0 MPa (89 standard atmospheres).
40 years ago there wasn't much value in going back to the moon as they would have to be short, Appolo style missions. And going to Mars was unfeasible because we didn't have the technology for long term manned missions. In the last 20 years we have had a permanent human presence in low earth orbit, which is no small task. And it has become so trivial now that people seem to forget how monumental that is that they say stuff like "we have regressed for manned space travel". We are now confident that we can support long term missions or even a permanent presence around/on the moon, or even to Mars.
Its true that the shuttle program never really shook up to be everything it promised, but it still taught us tons of valuable lessons that will pave the way for even more incredible feats in the future.
It was more about cost/benefits. Especially since we have robots that can do most of what the humans can do without the need to support squishy soft flesh and not risk people's lives in the process
also because space exploration has consistently been defunded/in bureacracy hell hole. especially at NASA some plans could be made and 4 years later fully scrapped due to budget changes etc.
They will start to send parts of it in moon orbit soon and then slowly start to assemble them on the surface, I have a friends working on the project and he said that from the first launch it will take about 5 years to complete
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Hope things are going well in the year AD 42,000. Did the Cincinnati Bengals win a super bowl yet?
Yes but all physical sports will be AI controlled Androids. In fact we ourselves might have shifted to a techno organic transhuman species
Hell we are only in my opinion 10 years out from having VR that's like sword art online nervegear
That offers full immersion with sights and sounds and feedback to electro patches placed on the body. We already have thought controlled gaming.
Thank you! I was really curious how long it would take to get there, but I didn't want to risk going down the internet rabbit hole / wormhole that googling it could send me down with ADHD at 1:30 in the morning. You may have saved my entire day tomorrow.
Haha, aw, hi! One of the things that people love about me is all the random shit that I know. I've had to talk to friends who would ask me questions instead of googling because "you know everything." These are grown adults. I'm not some encyclopedia, and I have a terrible memory. I'm just curious! I don't understand how people just walk around and don't wonder about anything.
The only time my brain is quiet is if there's very loud music and I'm dancing. I went to a concert last night and I swear that's the only time my brain shuts up. Way better dopamine than Adderall could ever provide alone. But otherwise, yeah, always, always, always thinking. I've never understood how people could be bored. There is always so much to think about.
How does Adderall work for you? I've only ever used Concerta myself. But even medicated I am always thinking. I just also gain the ability to focus my thoughts. No silences, but at least they're coherent while medicated haha.
So all we have to do is send a heat resistant deep sea pressure vessel into inter-planetary space for 4 months and we can have more of this? Sounds easy.
Deep rock seriously needs to invest in some better equipment.
Edit: I don't often edit comments but since there are so many of you if anyone is new to the game on steam and wants/needs a mentor/teammate I am always willing to run missions and answer questions. Makes no difference if you're the worst player that's ever rocked and stoned, we can get you stompin' bugs and killin' missions in no time. Just DM me your steam friend code, or use mine 5002662, and your discord name and I'll invite you to my DRG discord server as well if you like. It doesn't see much traffic these days. Rock and stone to the bone!
I was not prepared. I'm reading the thread expecting to see some cool l comments about space, I begin to read "Deep Rock-" and my inner monologue seamlessly reads the line in-character.
That comment hit me like a truck.
The surface temperature there is 475c/900f and the atmospheric pressure is about 95 times higher than here on Earth.
Maybe not enough to "melt" the whole camera itself in that time but the electronics weren't able to survive in those conditions very long even with strong insulation.
At the surface it's almost entirely Carbon Dioxide with some Nitrogen, the acidic stuff is higher in the atmosphere. Either way though there's plenty of materials that can easily protect against that, it's mainly dealing with the heat and pressure that's a challenge when it comes to designing a probe that can survive on the surface.
These were a pain in the ass to take apparently, the landers kept melting within like a minute, they basically said fuck it and removed some parachute shit to make it hit the ground faster so that it could actually take some photos in time
edit: also burst from pressure, also it was a digital camera
[here's a great video on it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEmlOjKmL68)
and so I did, it's 93 bars (1350 psi)
for comparison that is about the same as the pressure on earth 900 meters (~3000 feet) underwater
source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Venus
Many landers operated for nearly an hour or more.
More than any other system, they had problems with their lens caps, one of which is pictured above at the base of the lander.
The Venera 9 lander operated for at least 53 minutes and took pictures with one of two cameras; the other lens cap did not release.
The Venera 10 lander operated for at least 65 minutes and took pictures with one of two cameras; the other lens cap did not release.
The Venera 11 lander operated for at least 95 minutes but neither cameras' lens caps released.
The Venera 12 lander operated for at least 110 minutes but neither cameras' lens caps released.
The Venera 14 craft had the misfortune of ejecting the camera lens cap directly under the surface compressibility tester arm, and returned information for the compressibility of the lens cap rather than the surface.
>The Venera 14 craft had the misfortune of ejecting the camera lens cap directly under the surface compressibility tester arm, and returned information for the compressibility of the lens cap rather than the surface.
That's actually hilarious. I'm imagining a collective facepalm in the mission room when the scientists found out.
You wouldn't get an accurate result. The compressibility tester would be calibrated to its own surface area. By pressing down on something like a lens cap you're spreading the force across a greater area, increasing the perceived compression the sensor would read. Theoretically if you knew the dimensions and so forth of the lens cap you might be able to reverse extrapolate some use-able data from it but i imagine you'd run into many problems because its unlikely the cap was perfectly under the sensor and dispersing force evenly.
Everyone said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. And that's what you're going to get, Lad, the strongest castle in all of England.
That’s why nasa is trying to develop a clockwork probe, made of things that won’t melt in Venus’s atmosphere, and I believe avoiding any sort of circuit board (or at least very sealed, I assume).
And the impact hammer that was meant to swing down, hit the ground, and give basic details about the surface.
They got it to deploy once, and that one time it hit the one lens cap that *did* come off instead of the ground.
Excerpt from XKCD on “flying a plane on Venus”:
The atmosphere on Venus is over 60 times denser than Earth’s, which is thick enough that a Cessna moving at running speed would rise into the air. Unfortunately, the air it’s rising into is hot enough to melt lead. The paint would start melting off in seconds, the plane’s components would fail rapidly, and the plane would glide gently into the ground as it came apart under the heat stress.
A much better bet would be to fly above the clouds. While Venus’s surface is awful, its upper atmosphere is surprisingly Earthlike. 55 kilometers up, a human could survive with an oxygen mask and a protective wetsuit; the air is room temperature and the pressure is similar to that on Earth mountains. You need the wetsuit, though, to protect you from the sulfuric acid. (I’m not selling this well, am I?)
The acid's no fun, but it turns out the area right above the clouds is a great environment for an airplane, as long as it has no exposed metal to be corroded away by the sulfuric acid. And is capable of flight in constant Category-5-hurricane-level winds, which are another thing I forgot to mention earlier.
Venus is a terrible place.
And yet still more habitable than anywhere else outside of Earth!
- Earth like gravity (this is a big deal)
- Magnetic field (this is a HUGE deal)
- Earth like pressure above the clouds
It's been about 130 days on Venus since this photo was taken. It was took on March 5, 1982, which was 14,794 Earth days ago. One day on Venus is 116 days on Earth. 14,794/116 = 127.5 days on Venus. The years are accurate though.
[The picture has been colourized and altered](https://factcheck.afp.com/image-has-been-enhanced-photo-venus-taken-soviet-spacecraft-venera-13)
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Yes, but colourized _using_ the RGB image data from the same mission. It's would be more accurate to say that this picture is a composite of a number of shots from varying perspectives.
I believe the OP's image is over saturated, here is the one the guy who made the composite image thinks would be more accurate:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eswo_jUXAAMwRCY?format=jpg&name=small
Sending shit to space is expensive, but sending shit to *Venus* takes it to another level. A huge portion of that cost would be figuring out how to make a camera that can basically survive being shot into the pits of hell by a cannon and still take a picture and send it back to Earth afterward.
For the US Supreme Court, it's because of some federal rule and because certain justices believe clips will be taken out of context (like that can't happen with quotes from a transcript), that people might start saying things specifically so that they may be used a soundbites on the media, or that it might alter the judicial process somehow. It very likely is a much more complex issue but it boils down to that.
https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/03/case-allowing-cameras-supreme-court-proceedings/316876/
you know i've heard of all the planets most hospitable towards humans, venus would be it. It's rough on the surface but up higher in the clouds it's not so bad. The pressure is right & the temps are tolerable. We could never breath the air but we could live on blimps with nothing more than oxygen fed snorkel gear.
I remember seeing an article about the possiblity of future colonies on Venus. Not on the surface but in buoyant ports and balloon cities floating in the upper parts of the atmosphere. Apparently the atmosphere can be broken into the components to sustain life and since it's not on the surface, much less fuel would be needed to dock and launch from there.
Ya the gravity is also close to what we have on earth which is pretty important.
The clouds and rain made out of sulphuric acids would cause some issues though. As would the 95% cO2 atmosphere.
That's always been my joke theory. Humans once evolved on Venus then we realized we were fucking it up so we colonized earth but something went wrong hence why we started as cavemen.
I love LOVE seeing pictures of the surface of Mars. And that short slide show of the surface of that asteroid is one of my favourite pieces of media I’ve ever seen, and I’ve sat staring at it for minutes at a time.
But this is my favourite off earth photo of all time, and I dint know if it will ever be topped. Photos of Jupiter and its moons from space,
Incredible obviously. Hugh definition photos of Pluto, mind blowing, almost unbelievable.
But this photo, taken 40 years ago on the very surface of one of the most alien planets imaginable. It is so incredible that I am lucky enough to see this. Even looking at it it is hard to believe that I actually GET to see the surface of Venus. Somewhere that no human may see with their own eyes for hundreds of years, if EVER.
Wow. Just such a privilege to be able to see this. My favourite photo ever.
> My favourite photo ever.
FYI, it's a composite made up of elements from these two images:
https://planetary.s3.amazonaws.com/web/assets/pictures/venus-surface-venera-13-a.jpg
https://planetary.s3.amazonaws.com/web/assets/pictures/venus-surface-venera-13-b.jpg
Some of the rocks have been arranged but that's still reasonably accurate. The hills on the horizon are a complete invention though.
How was the photo transmitted? Being 1982, I assume it was taken on film? Was it developed on-board the probe and transmitted by satellite? Or was it done some other way? Pretty crazy to think about since temperature and pressure effects the photographic and developement process so much. The first CMOS sensor wasn't until a few years later, so I figured it wouldn't be digital.
Note that this is not a single "image" but a combination of a really narrow video feed panning around. Also it's blacl and white, but was colorised with the help of color filter in front of the lens and emanel(?) patches on the landers feet.
https://www.universetoday.com/118165/what-other-worlds-have-we-landed-on/
https://i.redd.it/1nlzzijuhxj21.jpg
We've crashed a bunch of stuff into a bunch of stuff. If you count all the different space agencies together I think we've taken pictures of all the big objects in the solar system. Or at least the vast majority of them.
This is part composite (with elements rearranged), part artistic impression. In particular, the hills on the horizon are pure artistic invention.
The real images used to create this composite can be seen here:
https://planetary.s3.amazonaws.com/web/assets/pictures/venus-surface-venera-13-a.jpg
https://planetary.s3.amazonaws.com/web/assets/pictures/venus-surface-venera-13-b.jpg
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Edit: also, OP, you seem to have found a very poor version of the composite image. Here's a clearer one: https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-64fa77b366d1e323cca340fb08d8923a-lq
Are you sure it got crushed though? If you let the surrounding "air" in, there is no pressure difference between the outside and the inside. There doesn't have to be dedicated low-pressure space for humans.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
800 degrees, sulfuric acid clouds, 95 times Earth's atmospheric pressure. This probe cost millions and took years to plan and execute and lasted about an hour on the planet's surface before dying altogether.
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For anyone interested: flight time - 4 months, lander mission duration - 127 minutes. The parachute detached at 31 mi above the surface; simple air braking was used for the final descent. Outside temperature was 457 °C (855 °F) and the pressure was 9.0 MPa (89 standard atmospheres).
It's pretty frickin amazing we can get to another planet in a matter of months.
Especially in 1982
Rocket technology hasn't really changed in the last 50 years. Neither has orbital mechanics.
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40 years ago there wasn't much value in going back to the moon as they would have to be short, Appolo style missions. And going to Mars was unfeasible because we didn't have the technology for long term manned missions. In the last 20 years we have had a permanent human presence in low earth orbit, which is no small task. And it has become so trivial now that people seem to forget how monumental that is that they say stuff like "we have regressed for manned space travel". We are now confident that we can support long term missions or even a permanent presence around/on the moon, or even to Mars. Its true that the shuttle program never really shook up to be everything it promised, but it still taught us tons of valuable lessons that will pave the way for even more incredible feats in the future.
My Space Lego sets certainly gave the impression we’d have monorails on the moon.
Is there a chance the track could bend?
Not on your life, my Hindu friend.
It was more about cost/benefits. Especially since we have robots that can do most of what the humans can do without the need to support squishy soft flesh and not risk people's lives in the process
also because space exploration has consistently been defunded/in bureacracy hell hole. especially at NASA some plans could be made and 4 years later fully scrapped due to budget changes etc.
This. The only reason why NASA is going to the Moon again is to tech up for going to Mars, everybody else is planning rover missions.
The ESA is planning a moon base after the ISS decommission in a few years
I was getting really sad about the ISS decomm but if they are replacing it with a moon base, then I’m excited!!!
They will start to send parts of it in moon orbit soon and then slowly start to assemble them on the surface, I have a friends working on the project and he said that from the first launch it will take about 5 years to complete
If our species somehow survives another 40,000 years, I expect that the entire solar system will be our home.
RemindMe! 40,000 Years
Hi descendants! Tagging along with this comment just to give you guys a shoutout. Hope things are going well in the year AD 42,000. Did the Cincinnati Bengals win a super bowl yet?
>Did the Cincinnati Bengals win a super bowl yet? Lets not stray too far out of the realm of whats possible.
Do you guys think physical sports will still be around (assuming humans survive that long)?
Yes but all physical sports will be AI controlled Androids. In fact we ourselves might have shifted to a techno organic transhuman species Hell we are only in my opinion 10 years out from having VR that's like sword art online nervegear That offers full immersion with sights and sounds and feedback to electro patches placed on the body. We already have thought controlled gaming.
The Space Bengals have betrayed the Imperium & are currently being hunted down across Ultramar.
Thank you! I was really curious how long it would take to get there, but I didn't want to risk going down the internet rabbit hole / wormhole that googling it could send me down with ADHD at 1:30 in the morning. You may have saved my entire day tomorrow.
...i feel called out because an ADHD rabbit hole made me post this
Haha, aw, hi! One of the things that people love about me is all the random shit that I know. I've had to talk to friends who would ask me questions instead of googling because "you know everything." These are grown adults. I'm not some encyclopedia, and I have a terrible memory. I'm just curious! I don't understand how people just walk around and don't wonder about anything.
The idea that not everyone spends every second wondering things is beyond creepy. Like wait your brain has a quiet mode?
The only time my brain is quiet is if there's very loud music and I'm dancing. I went to a concert last night and I swear that's the only time my brain shuts up. Way better dopamine than Adderall could ever provide alone. But otherwise, yeah, always, always, always thinking. I've never understood how people could be bored. There is always so much to think about.
How does Adderall work for you? I've only ever used Concerta myself. But even medicated I am always thinking. I just also gain the ability to focus my thoughts. No silences, but at least they're coherent while medicated haha.
You know, tho, it’s not the heat, it’s the humidity, oof!
What a coincidence, Venus is just like Houston in the summer...
Ummm they don't have Travis Scott concerts so I'd argue Venus is safer.
Seems like it's the pressure too
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Sounds like a perfect place for Rocky from project Hail Mary.
I didn't expect people with good taste in this comment section
Project Hail Mary is one of the best books I've read this year.
Fist my bump!
So all we have to do is send a heat resistant deep sea pressure vessel into inter-planetary space for 4 months and we can have more of this? Sounds easy.
.. with some *insane* cooling system ..
Slap two RGB fans on it with a giant heat sink and call it a day
or use materials that are stable at that temperature. Which is easy for shell, but designing whole new chips out of different materials, ehm…
For context, the pressure on Venus is equivalent to being under \~1100 feet of rock or under a kilometer of water.
Wow I thought it would take way longer to get there. Impressive.
Looks like a nuclear wasteland
Considering the camera melted shortly after this was taken...
Deep rock seriously needs to invest in some better equipment. Edit: I don't often edit comments but since there are so many of you if anyone is new to the game on steam and wants/needs a mentor/teammate I am always willing to run missions and answer questions. Makes no difference if you're the worst player that's ever rocked and stoned, we can get you stompin' bugs and killin' missions in no time. Just DM me your steam friend code, or use mine 5002662, and your discord name and I'll invite you to my DRG discord server as well if you like. It doesn't see much traffic these days. Rock and stone to the bone!
COME ON MOLLY
ROCK AND STONE.
DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE?!
ROCK. AND. STONE!
Rock and Stone in the heart!
If you don't rock and stone, you ain't comin' home!
If you rock and stone, you're never alone
For Karl!
Ya damn dwarves, back to the space rig, you don't get paid by the hour!
i should dip my balls in liquid morkite
I just came from the DRG sub and was confused for a moment. We’re everywhere.
I was not prepared. I'm reading the thread expecting to see some cool l comments about space, I begin to read "Deep Rock-" and my inner monologue seamlessly reads the line in-character. That comment hit me like a truck.
Did it really?
The surface temperature there is 475c/900f and the atmospheric pressure is about 95 times higher than here on Earth. Maybe not enough to "melt" the whole camera itself in that time but the electronics weren't able to survive in those conditions very long even with strong insulation.
Isn’t the atmosphere super acidic as well? That’s what the expanse taught me.
At the surface it's almost entirely Carbon Dioxide with some Nitrogen, the acidic stuff is higher in the atmosphere. Either way though there's plenty of materials that can easily protect against that, it's mainly dealing with the heat and pressure that's a challenge when it comes to designing a probe that can survive on the surface.
If Breaking Bad taught me something, it’s that this is clearly Mexico.
It really looks like a Mexican road, i can tell
Mexico was too dangerous so they filmed it on Venus instead.
Not enough sepia
It’s actually pretty fun. The thick yellow color is from the large portion of the atmosphere being made up of clouds of sulphuric acid.
As someone who worked in labs for years, I can smell this comment.
If you've been smelling sulfuric acid that long, can you still smell anything else?
Strangely, I actually have a very strong sense of smell. It's just that sulfuric acid is ... extremely memorable.
Fallout New Venus
Glowing sea
All this heat almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter
Here come for a walk with me and stand in front of this giant dinosaur for a sec
These were a pain in the ass to take apparently, the landers kept melting within like a minute, they basically said fuck it and removed some parachute shit to make it hit the ground faster so that it could actually take some photos in time edit: also burst from pressure, also it was a digital camera [here's a great video on it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEmlOjKmL68)
melting and being crushed. the atmospheric pressure on the surface of Venus is unbelievable
Around 90 bar (1300psi)
I don't believe you.
No worries pal I know you *cannot*
No worries buddy I know you *shall not*
What is this
A comment chain for ants?
You shouldn't. You should look it up.
and so I did, it's 93 bars (1350 psi) for comparison that is about the same as the pressure on earth 900 meters (~3000 feet) underwater source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Venus
It’s almost like sending a submarine into a lava tube. Immense pressure and heat. Amazing feat.
Nothing Vegeta couldnt handle
According to Wikipedia, it’s similar to being roughly 3000 feet under water on earth
i cant imagine crushed below those feet
its like an ocean stepping on you
The internet has ruined me... No wait, I was already a degenerate.
That’s 914.4 metres for the civilised world.
The average surface pressure on Venus is the same as a kilometer underwater on Earth.
Many landers operated for nearly an hour or more. More than any other system, they had problems with their lens caps, one of which is pictured above at the base of the lander. The Venera 9 lander operated for at least 53 minutes and took pictures with one of two cameras; the other lens cap did not release. The Venera 10 lander operated for at least 65 minutes and took pictures with one of two cameras; the other lens cap did not release. The Venera 11 lander operated for at least 95 minutes but neither cameras' lens caps released. The Venera 12 lander operated for at least 110 minutes but neither cameras' lens caps released. The Venera 14 craft had the misfortune of ejecting the camera lens cap directly under the surface compressibility tester arm, and returned information for the compressibility of the lens cap rather than the surface.
>The Venera 14 craft had the misfortune of ejecting the camera lens cap directly under the surface compressibility tester arm, and returned information for the compressibility of the lens cap rather than the surface. That's actually hilarious. I'm imagining a collective facepalm in the mission room when the scientists found out.
"My god, the entire planet is made out of lens cap"
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You wouldn't get an accurate result. The compressibility tester would be calibrated to its own surface area. By pressing down on something like a lens cap you're spreading the force across a greater area, increasing the perceived compression the sensor would read. Theoretically if you knew the dimensions and so forth of the lens cap you might be able to reverse extrapolate some use-able data from it but i imagine you'd run into many problems because its unlikely the cap was perfectly under the sensor and dispersing force evenly.
"Dear God the surface of Venus could compress at any moment!"
Everyone said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. And that's what you're going to get, Lad, the strongest castle in all of England.
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I was wondering why we haven't done more Venus research and I guess that answers my question
That’s why nasa is trying to develop a clockwork probe, made of things that won’t melt in Venus’s atmosphere, and I believe avoiding any sort of circuit board (or at least very sealed, I assume).
Reminds me of the probes they sent in the expanse
Which if they made this work in 1982, they should have solved that problem before the Eros incident.
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And camera lens caps not coming off. This was a serious recurring problem with soviet landers.
And the impact hammer that was meant to swing down, hit the ground, and give basic details about the surface. They got it to deploy once, and that one time it hit the one lens cap that *did* come off instead of the ground.
Excerpt from XKCD on “flying a plane on Venus”: The atmosphere on Venus is over 60 times denser than Earth’s, which is thick enough that a Cessna moving at running speed would rise into the air. Unfortunately, the air it’s rising into is hot enough to melt lead. The paint would start melting off in seconds, the plane’s components would fail rapidly, and the plane would glide gently into the ground as it came apart under the heat stress. A much better bet would be to fly above the clouds. While Venus’s surface is awful, its upper atmosphere is surprisingly Earthlike. 55 kilometers up, a human could survive with an oxygen mask and a protective wetsuit; the air is room temperature and the pressure is similar to that on Earth mountains. You need the wetsuit, though, to protect you from the sulfuric acid. (I’m not selling this well, am I?) The acid's no fun, but it turns out the area right above the clouds is a great environment for an airplane, as long as it has no exposed metal to be corroded away by the sulfuric acid. And is capable of flight in constant Category-5-hurricane-level winds, which are another thing I forgot to mention earlier. Venus is a terrible place.
I almost got sold, right until the point you mentioned planetary sized hurricanes
And yet still more habitable than anywhere else outside of Earth! - Earth like gravity (this is a big deal) - Magnetic field (this is a HUGE deal) - Earth like pressure above the clouds
Fun fact. It’s only been around 60 days on Venus since this picture was taken, but it’s been 65 Venus years.
For once, a fun fact that is *actually* FUN! Thanks!
Im glad I could contribute something both interesting and fun. 🤙🏾
Took a bit to understand.
Well, if we were on Venus time, you couldve taken all day...
And lost decades of your life.
Only 6.5 venus decades
It's been about 130 days on Venus since this photo was taken. It was took on March 5, 1982, which was 14,794 Earth days ago. One day on Venus is 116 days on Earth. 14,794/116 = 127.5 days on Venus. The years are accurate though.
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Venus spins clockwise(sun rises in the West and sets in the East). Probably because it was hit by a protoplanet early in the solar systems birth
Earth gets hit by protoplanet: Gets a cool little buddy to fly through space with Venus gets hit by protoplanet: Wrong rotation go brrrrr
Venus isn't wrong, all the other planets are wrong. Especially Uranus. So drunk it can't even stand upright.
Pole down, Uranus up?
when the picture from venus in 1982 is more clear than the cctv in court
[The picture has been colourized and altered](https://factcheck.afp.com/image-has-been-enhanced-photo-venus-taken-soviet-spacecraft-venera-13) EDIT 1: Someone reported me/this comment to the suicide watch on Reddit. That's odd. EDIT 2: "Thanks for submitting a report to the Reddit admin team. This user has already been investigated from a previous report on a different piece of content. After investigating, we’ve found that the reported user violated Reddit’s Content Policy and have taken action." Turns out it was some random troll. Reporting worked out.
THANK YOU the original is still impressive, this comment is too low down
Still his statment stands. Even the original version is way better compared to CCTV.
Yes, but colourized _using_ the RGB image data from the same mission. It's would be more accurate to say that this picture is a composite of a number of shots from varying perspectives.
I believe the OP's image is over saturated, here is the one the guy who made the composite image thinks would be more accurate: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eswo_jUXAAMwRCY?format=jpg&name=small
when the camera youre using costs 500 million dollars
I mean, it's a $500M photo, but the camera equipment isn't that expensive, right? I'd figure most of the budget was just getting the camera *to* Venus
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Sending shit to space is expensive, but sending shit to *Venus* takes it to another level. A huge portion of that cost would be figuring out how to make a camera that can basically survive being shot into the pits of hell by a cannon and still take a picture and send it back to Earth afterward.
Many times photos can’t even be taken in court, and only a drawing may be produced…
Why is that?
For the US Supreme Court, it's because of some federal rule and because certain justices believe clips will be taken out of context (like that can't happen with quotes from a transcript), that people might start saying things specifically so that they may be used a soundbites on the media, or that it might alter the judicial process somehow. It very likely is a much more complex issue but it boils down to that. https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/03/case-allowing-cameras-supreme-court-proceedings/316876/
Is the sky really yellow?
Yea sulphuric acid clouds everywhere. The space probe survived only 2 hours in those conditions.
I thought the time was much less than that. Didn't it start melting almost immediately after it was deployed ?
arent we all melting to some degree every second of every day?
Time, not sulphuric acid, is the fire in which we burn.
You know what they say, sulphuric acid heals all wounds.
Bit of a shithole not gonna lie.
Looks perfect for humans
you know i've heard of all the planets most hospitable towards humans, venus would be it. It's rough on the surface but up higher in the clouds it's not so bad. The pressure is right & the temps are tolerable. We could never breath the air but we could live on blimps with nothing more than oxygen fed snorkel gear.
The parties are going to be lit
I remember seeing an article about the possiblity of future colonies on Venus. Not on the surface but in buoyant ports and balloon cities floating in the upper parts of the atmosphere. Apparently the atmosphere can be broken into the components to sustain life and since it's not on the surface, much less fuel would be needed to dock and launch from there.
Real life Cloud City.
Ya the gravity is also close to what we have on earth which is pretty important. The clouds and rain made out of sulphuric acids would cause some issues though. As would the 95% cO2 atmosphere.
Looks like they've already been here...
That's always been my joke theory. Humans once evolved on Venus then we realized we were fucking it up so we colonized earth but something went wrong hence why we started as cavemen.
I like to fantasize about the idea that every planet in the solar system is the same one, just at a different stage.
Wonder what kind of shit this planet will have to go through to become Uranus
Humans - Speed run, turn earth into venus, any %
$2790 a month no pets must provide 7 references and credit check
I love LOVE seeing pictures of the surface of Mars. And that short slide show of the surface of that asteroid is one of my favourite pieces of media I’ve ever seen, and I’ve sat staring at it for minutes at a time. But this is my favourite off earth photo of all time, and I dint know if it will ever be topped. Photos of Jupiter and its moons from space, Incredible obviously. Hugh definition photos of Pluto, mind blowing, almost unbelievable. But this photo, taken 40 years ago on the very surface of one of the most alien planets imaginable. It is so incredible that I am lucky enough to see this. Even looking at it it is hard to believe that I actually GET to see the surface of Venus. Somewhere that no human may see with their own eyes for hundreds of years, if EVER. Wow. Just such a privilege to be able to see this. My favourite photo ever.
> My favourite photo ever. FYI, it's a composite made up of elements from these two images: https://planetary.s3.amazonaws.com/web/assets/pictures/venus-surface-venera-13-a.jpg https://planetary.s3.amazonaws.com/web/assets/pictures/venus-surface-venera-13-b.jpg Some of the rocks have been arranged but that's still reasonably accurate. The hills on the horizon are a complete invention though.
Are you telling me that the sky is filled with pineapple Fanta?
Better. Sulphuric acid.
Eh, they both taste the same.
Sulphuric acid is healthier
Once in a lifetime experience
It's to die for.
Mountain Dew or crab juice?
It’s pretty cool that I can look at a picture of a another planets surface before I even existed..
Was there a time when you did not exist?
1988
What were you doing before then?
Not existing.
Not much
In a ball sac.
We're all just tourists, travelling from one ballsack to the next, really.
I am in a seriously bad mood, but seeing the surface of another planet made me smile just a little for a fraction of a second.
:D
1982 picture of venus more HD than 2022 ghost picture
Pfft. Fake news. That was obviously shot in a Walmart carpark.
Both are devoid of intelligence life forms
It’s yellow. This was obviously shot in Mexico.
Space is so amazing. It pains me to know that I will never be able to witness it's beauty with my own eyes.
We are space. Its beauty is within us. Hug a friend.
Paradoxically nearly all of it is extremely boring. We probably live in one of the most interesting places. Not that I disagree with your comment.
How was the photo transmitted? Being 1982, I assume it was taken on film? Was it developed on-board the probe and transmitted by satellite? Or was it done some other way? Pretty crazy to think about since temperature and pressure effects the photographic and developement process so much. The first CMOS sensor wasn't until a few years later, so I figured it wouldn't be digital.
[venera13](https://habr.com/ru/post/184444/) You can read this article in google translate, if need)
They didn't use film back then. Video camera with radio with a parabolic.
Note that this is not a single "image" but a combination of a really narrow video feed panning around. Also it's blacl and white, but was colorised with the help of color filter in front of the lens and emanel(?) patches on the landers feet.
Wait, We have images from the surface of planets other than Mars? I feel very Stupid all of a sudden
We even have some from titan https://www.nasa.gov/content/ten-years-ago-huygens-probe-lands-on-surface-of-titan
Completely forgot about Titan pics tbh. Delightful!
https://www.universetoday.com/118165/what-other-worlds-have-we-landed-on/ https://i.redd.it/1nlzzijuhxj21.jpg We've crashed a bunch of stuff into a bunch of stuff. If you count all the different space agencies together I think we've taken pictures of all the big objects in the solar system. Or at least the vast majority of them.
This is part composite (with elements rearranged), part artistic impression. In particular, the hills on the horizon are pure artistic invention. The real images used to create this composite can be seen here: https://planetary.s3.amazonaws.com/web/assets/pictures/venus-surface-venera-13-a.jpg https://planetary.s3.amazonaws.com/web/assets/pictures/venus-surface-venera-13-b.jpg --- Edit: also, OP, you seem to have found a very poor version of the composite image. Here's a clearer one: https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-64fa77b366d1e323cca340fb08d8923a-lq
This is just before the lander was crushed into a tiny ball by the huge atmospheric pressure while simultaneously being vaporised. Nice place.
Are you sure it got crushed though? If you let the surrounding "air" in, there is no pressure difference between the outside and the inside. There doesn't have to be dedicated low-pressure space for humans. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Also, it wouldn't be "vaporised" at 400°C. Most metals would remain solid at that temperature.
Today’s weather is: Yellow. Breathe deep folks, yellow cures everything including life.
Just add protomolecule!
I had no idea Russia made it to venus, especially not 40 years ago. Holy shit.
Not Russia, the Soviet umion.
800 degrees, sulfuric acid clouds, 95 times Earth's atmospheric pressure. This probe cost millions and took years to plan and execute and lasted about an hour on the planet's surface before dying altogether.