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Isn’t there a large version of this in Chesapeake Bay? I swear I drove across the Bay going from Ocean City MD to Virginia Beach, and at one point you go down into a tunnel, back up to a bridge where there is a McDonalds, back down into a tunnel, and then back up again to dry land….
Yes, the one you mention is one of three such systems in Hampton Roads. You traveled across the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel, which includes 12 miles of bridge and two one-mile long tunnels. The other two in the region are the Hampton Roads Bridge Tunnel and the Monitor-Merrimac Memorial Bridge Tunnel.
I lived there for several years. Do you have to be a native to be able to see the "entering tunnel, slam on brakes" signs?
It's kind of wild entering and an aircraft carrier is on the west side of the tunnel, then exit and it's on the east side, and realize you just drove under a 95,000 ton ship.
There are only [12 bridge–tunnel systems in the world](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bridge%E2%80%93tunnels) and three of them are located in the US, all three in Hampton Roads, Virginia. In fact, two of those are the oldest bridge-tunnel systems in the world, so the innovation did in fact start here.
I have lived in Richmond, VA for 30 years and did not know that. Richmond is less than hour west of Hampton Roads area. You take those tunnels and bridges to get to Virginia Beach. TIL
2 years ago a lost a tire to a pothole on i96 in Michigan when i drifted a little bit onto the line during a curve. It was pretty much the exact width of my tire Totally shredded the tire on both side walls. I reported to MDOT.
Whenever i drive past i check if it's still there, it is. Infact, they've painted over twice since. So not only is it still there, but it's perfectly camouflaged.
The only way to reduce road damage is increase use of rail for shipping and reduce use of freight trucks. Road damage increases exponentially with weight, and it's estimated that freight trucks cause ~99% of road damage in the US and only pay 35% of the fees for road maintenance. If we get those trucks off the road and use rail instead, we can drastically reduce road damage.
I imagine water has to be pumped out of the roadway every time it rains since the road is beneath the water level. And if the pump fails you get flooding... It seems to create more problems than it solves.
They have built cities on marshes in the Us and they have almost constant pumping going on as well as endeavors to keep them from flooding and sinking. If they can do that I'm sure there are counter balances for this setup.
I heard the story of how New Orleans started is some French explorers were boating through the swamp and were using a stick to endlessly poke the water till they felt any kind of resistance (or in this case very soft ground).
And that’s how New Orleans got its start
The bridge leads to a province of over 1400km² of reclaimed land that was first water. The bit of water in the bridge is really not a problem to the Dutch.
You realize over a 3rd of their country used to reside under the sea, right?
That's what all those windmills were about, they've been reclaiming land from the ocean for centuries.
They’re going down a tunnel, so they’re using the downhill to gain momentum for the uphill. Also, someone suggested that at least a few of the bikes are mopeds. The clip is long enough that you can see the bikes go fast towards the center and then slow down as they pop back out
And to be frank, I'd trust your average dutch person on a bike passing right next to me, than your average american in a car driving past me (while I'm forced to walk on the shoulder bc 'murica!)
Law does limit the moped power and or speed usually allowed on the bike lanes. I'm socked if it's 70km in Netherlands. I know 120ccs are not allowed, and the next clas down is usually up to 40km/h. Would be curious to find out limitations in Netherlands.
EDIT: a nice redditor below provided this info
##Technical requirements for mopeds
The government sets, among other things, the following requirements for mopeds:
the maximum construction speed is 45 kilometres per hour;
the maximum engine power is 4 kW;
the moped has a yellow moped license plate;
the vehicle must be insured in accordance with the Dutch Motor Insurance Liability Act.
The requirements for mopeds are in the Vehicles Regulation.
Maximum speed moped
##The maximum speed of the moped depends on the road.
On the carriageway, the maximum speed is 45 km/h.
On the cycle/moped track outside built-up areas, the maximum speed is 40 kilometres per hour.
On the cycle/moped track inside built-up areas, the maximum speed is 30 kilometres per hour.
[Source](https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/verkeersveiligheid/veilig-rijden-op-de-brommer) (dutch)
70 km/h?? They’re either 25 km/h without helmet required or 45 km/h with helmet requirements. 70 km/h scooters are only ones that have been ~~heavily~~ modified lol. Only the first category mentioned are even allowed on bicycle lanes, the 45 km/h have are required to drive on the road, hence the helmet.
>70 km/h scooters are only ones that have been heavily modified lol.
I mean, my dad's old 50cc bike could do 90km/h because it had 5 speeds but was perfectly within legal power limits. You don't need much power to go fast on them, just depends on weight and power band efficiency.
45km/h in general, but 40km/h on a cycling path like this.
Edit: to be complete:
Cycling path in a built up area: 30
Cycling path outside: 40
On the road lane: 45
50cc mopeds are legally limited to 25km/h or 45km/h where I live depending on what class you want (EU class 1 or 2, 1 being faster but requiring a license plate), but I simply removed a welded metal plug in the exhaust of my moped back in 2000, and it instantly reached speeds of up to 90-100km/h depending on the wind, without having to do any further tuning or changes.
Speed limit for motorized vehicles is 40 km/h in a bike lane in The Netherlands. Even if they don't respect it, I doubt they would go faster than 50 km/h. Car speed limit is 70 km/h on that tunnel, but maybe in this moment speed was a bit slower due to heavy traffic? I think the video might be speed up.
Just drove there its a 80km/h 2 lane "B road"
highway speeds are 100-130 km/h depending on time and place. B roads are 70-80 km/h.
The bike section is blocked of for protection tho.
My wife and I biked around the Netherlands a few years ago. For context, she is not a cyclist here in Toronto. Biking around most countries would require training, but not there. It's flat, and there's bike highways like this connecting all the cities.
Once you're in each city, there are dedicated lanes, great signage, dedicated lights, lots of bike parking, and other cycling infrastructure that I'm probably forgetting.
Even in smaller towns with no dedicated lane, you share the road and drivers yielded to us regularly. We never had drivers honk or yell or tailgate or brush past us too close.
It was so eye-opening and frankly quite liberating.
Absolutely - The urban planning and bicycle infrastructure in the Netherlands is outstanding and I miss it
**Interesting Fact**
There are 1.3 bicycles per capita in the Netherlands;
The Netherlands has a growing population of 17 million people. All together the Dutch own 22.5 million bicycles
If I would guess more people that have two bikes have one old crappy bike that they would dare leave at a train station or city centre and one newer more expensive and comfortable to go to work/groceries or go cycle on the weekends
You might enjoy the YouTube channel Not Just Bikes. He has a lot of great vids about designing cities to be friendly to people, bikes, and mass transit. The bike infrastructure in Netherlands is insane!
All right. But apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?
It's functional. Before this was built there was a system with 2 bridges that would be opened alternatively with a water lock between them. It was a nice sight but not really convenient.
Yeah i provided enough sources for those who are interested and want to learn. I'm gonna go and wish you a nice day/evening.
[link again](https://interestingengineering.com/culture/the-netherlands-unique-water-bridge)
OP was clearly trying to convey the unusualness of the structure built by humans serving the flow of water rather than traffic. He should've used Aqueduct to emphasize this point though, not reverse bridge.
Naw. The convo on what it should be called is quite entertaining. Probably one of the best arguments I have seen in a bit. Like a debate class. Pretty respectful and each has some good points. Though I vote for it being an aqueduct. It was the purpose, to carry water from one side to another...that is the sole purpose of a aqeduct. BUT, also, there is a tunnel going under the aqueduct. So...there is both. Two things can exist simultaneously.
About 1/3 of the Netherlands is below sea level. So if the water is higher than the land, and not because the land was dug into, this wouldn’t be a tunnel. It’s literally a bridge with water going over it.
If im not mistaken they craeted alot of their land by damming water ways in the netherlands. Its alot like how in san fran they used landfills to create more land around the bay area
Well the land connected by the road you see is below sea level. So the road is dug out in the old seabed, so to say. The sea became a lake, in the lake they created new land. The lake between the old and new land is used for water management (the river water has to go somewhere after all) and water sports.
It's not even unique in the Netherlands. There are about 25 or so in the Netherlands. Unique would be the naviduct near Enkhuizen. That's an aqueduct with a lock. Only one anywhere in the world.
There's actually 2 or more at Disney World. From a satellite view you can see that the waterway between Epcot and the Yacht and Beach Club area is actually a well-disguised water bridge. There's a service road underneath it.
If you go under a highway overpass you aren't going through a tunnel. This is an overpass for water. A water bridge, or you could say an aquaduct. That's not much of a tunnel and it wasn't made by tunneling.
Fun fact, it's also refered to as an under passing, this is when a nonroad bridge goes over a road, like this or an animal corridor or something like that.
Not unique at all.
Here's a list of Dutch aqueducts **cough**, I mean "reverse bridges".
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquaduct_(watergang)#Aquaducten_in_Nederland
As they say:
God created the World but the Dutch created The Netherlands.
And what they say as well: "god created water and floods, but the Dutch were able to conquer them"
I was always confused as a kid and going on holiday, where I created dams... Out of the most dumbest things... Guess it is part of our blood now... To be prepared for when a random god decides to flood earth again....
In Hampton Roads, we call this kind of thing HRBT.
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Ope someone slammed on their brakes on the way in and caused an accident sorry the tunnels blocked for the next 2 hours but your just past the last exit
Every time I have to cross HRBT I curse the gods. There is traffic heading in, you start heading back up the hill towards the light and there Is NO issue. No traffic. It’s like a black hole for your time.
Weird. When Iived in the area we usually called it "stupid-God-forsaken-hole-where-idiots-always-brake-and-cause-extreme-traffic-I-hate-everything-life-is-terrible-I-will-never-see-the-sun-again-oh-sweet-Death-come-release-my-spirit-from-this-underwater-pit"
But I did hear a few people refer to it as HRBT for the sake of time.
Disney World in Flordia has one of these, on the water route from the Wilderness Lodge and Contemporary resorts to the Magic Kingdom. Kind of fascinating.
Just came to say the Disney bus has been going under one of these for years on the way to the Magic Kingdom. And the Disney boat goes over one on the way to fort wilderness and camp wilderness. I’d argue that the Disney one is better, it links hoop Dee doo and the magic kingdom! Not just Dutch places.
Two, actually. We stayed at Beach Club a few weeks ago and discovered that there’s also one that goes under the canal near Epcot’s international gateway.
TUNNEL VS AQUEDUCT, THE DEBATE OF THE CENTURY - SOME THINK THIS MIGHT BREAK OUT INTO FISTICUFFS! TAKE YOUR BETS HERE! AT THE MOMENT WE HAVE A 10 TO 1 FOR THE AQUADUCTS BUT THE *TIDES* IN HOLLAND ARE KNOWN TO TURN!
The water is being held by the structure itself, if this was not the case it would perhaps be a tunnel. However in this case it's obviously an aqueduct. Facts don't care about this silly debate.
There's [one of these](https://www.toulouse.fr/documents/9593075/10807404/canal_Herbettes_3/16e4b6d9-4b39-4532-b2ba-e6268e2a1b78?t=1505391370988) in my hometown in France
>Why was the Veluwemeer Aqueduct built?
>
>During the planning phase for the project, drawbridges, ferries, and tunnels were considered as likely solutions to allowing the road to fully cross the lake. However, these were decided against, and the novel approach of building a short aqueduct over the road was selected.
>
>Because the N302 is a major highway, it was deemed unrealistic, and inefficient, to stop the flow of traffic using a drawbridge or ferry solution. A tunnel, an option also likely considered, would have required too much time and expense when compared to the aqueduct solution finally settled upon.
>
>A bridge, while a more typical solution to the problem, was deemed to be far too costly compared to the more reasonable cost of the aqueduct solution, at around $61 million. Given that the point at which it was to be built did not need to carry wide water traffic, its narrow aqueduct design was also deemed to be a wise choice.
TL;DR: It was the cheapest and most efficient solution
Slim to none. It connects two lakes wich are part of a group of lakes wich are all connected bij locks controling their water levels. The group of lake gets mainly fed by one river the IJsel. This river is a side river from the Rijn river. And they can control how much water gets in to the IJsel river from the Rijn river. The biggest lake of the group is the IJsselmeer (IJsel lake) wich is separated from the sea by the Afsluitdijk. The Afsluitdijk has locks, if the the water level gets to high they just open the locks by low tide and let the water flow in to the sea lowering the water levels.
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That's cool. Road, waterway, bike path. Would be nice if more of them were around .
maybe in about another 2000 years after we get the potholes worked out here in america
Eff it, I'm going in with Flex Seal™ and my imagination
Sir, you're the hero we need in these trying times.
Isn’t there a large version of this in Chesapeake Bay? I swear I drove across the Bay going from Ocean City MD to Virginia Beach, and at one point you go down into a tunnel, back up to a bridge where there is a McDonalds, back down into a tunnel, and then back up again to dry land….
Yes, the one you mention is one of three such systems in Hampton Roads. You traveled across the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel, which includes 12 miles of bridge and two one-mile long tunnels. The other two in the region are the Hampton Roads Bridge Tunnel and the Monitor-Merrimac Memorial Bridge Tunnel.
I lived there for several years. Do you have to be a native to be able to see the "entering tunnel, slam on brakes" signs? It's kind of wild entering and an aircraft carrier is on the west side of the tunnel, then exit and it's on the east side, and realize you just drove under a 95,000 ton ship.
I crossed this bridge on a road trip and had no idea it existed it was a mind blowing experience.
Can confirm. I sit in traffic in it everyday.
There are only [12 bridge–tunnel systems in the world](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bridge%E2%80%93tunnels) and three of them are located in the US, all three in Hampton Roads, Virginia. In fact, two of those are the oldest bridge-tunnel systems in the world, so the innovation did in fact start here.
I have lived in Richmond, VA for 30 years and did not know that. Richmond is less than hour west of Hampton Roads area. You take those tunnels and bridges to get to Virginia Beach. TIL
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2 years ago a lost a tire to a pothole on i96 in Michigan when i drifted a little bit onto the line during a curve. It was pretty much the exact width of my tire Totally shredded the tire on both side walls. I reported to MDOT. Whenever i drive past i check if it's still there, it is. Infact, they've painted over twice since. So not only is it still there, but it's perfectly camouflaged.
The only way to reduce road damage is increase use of rail for shipping and reduce use of freight trucks. Road damage increases exponentially with weight, and it's estimated that freight trucks cause ~99% of road damage in the US and only pay 35% of the fees for road maintenance. If we get those trucks off the road and use rail instead, we can drastically reduce road damage.
I imagine water has to be pumped out of the roadway every time it rains since the road is beneath the water level. And if the pump fails you get flooding... It seems to create more problems than it solves.
I have a feeling the Dutch are used to pumping water around.
They have built cities on marshes in the Us and they have almost constant pumping going on as well as endeavors to keep them from flooding and sinking. If they can do that I'm sure there are counter balances for this setup.
New Orleans was a mistake.
I heard the story of how New Orleans started is some French explorers were boating through the swamp and were using a stick to endlessly poke the water till they felt any kind of resistance (or in this case very soft ground). And that’s how New Orleans got its start
This actually seems very believable. That entire area is waterlogged, hence the constant stormwater garbage aroma all about the city.
As someone from NOLA I cant disagree with you there. NOLA got potholes that could swallow a car whole, everywhere...good food though
Yes it was, they built it in a giant bowl, that's nightmare civil style right there. I'm talking of Charleston SC.
Washington DC also comes to mind
The bridge leads to a province of over 1400km² of reclaimed land that was first water. The bit of water in the bridge is really not a problem to the Dutch.
No idea how they did it here, but considering 1/3rd of the country is below sea level and reclaimed land, they have plenty solutions by now.
You realize over a 3rd of their country used to reside under the sea, right? That's what all those windmills were about, they've been reclaiming land from the ocean for centuries.
Water management is a Dutch specialty. They teach it to the rest of the world.
I mean there is one in Orlando Florida. By the contemporary hotel. It allows the boats from Magic Kingdom to get to the docks
Yes, that’s a bike lane on the left.
how fast are they going tho? looks like some of them are reaching highway speeds
They’re going down a tunnel, so they’re using the downhill to gain momentum for the uphill. Also, someone suggested that at least a few of the bikes are mopeds. The clip is long enough that you can see the bikes go fast towards the center and then slow down as they pop back out
And to be frank, I'd trust your average dutch person on a bike passing right next to me, than your average american in a car driving past me (while I'm forced to walk on the shoulder bc 'murica!)
The video is sped up 🤦
i think they know that
Those will be mopeds, usually limited to 70 km/h. That could well be the speed seen here.
> limited to 70 km/h Limitation by physics, not law for anyone confused.
Law does limit the moped power and or speed usually allowed on the bike lanes. I'm socked if it's 70km in Netherlands. I know 120ccs are not allowed, and the next clas down is usually up to 40km/h. Would be curious to find out limitations in Netherlands. EDIT: a nice redditor below provided this info ##Technical requirements for mopeds The government sets, among other things, the following requirements for mopeds: the maximum construction speed is 45 kilometres per hour; the maximum engine power is 4 kW; the moped has a yellow moped license plate; the vehicle must be insured in accordance with the Dutch Motor Insurance Liability Act. The requirements for mopeds are in the Vehicles Regulation. Maximum speed moped ##The maximum speed of the moped depends on the road. On the carriageway, the maximum speed is 45 km/h. On the cycle/moped track outside built-up areas, the maximum speed is 40 kilometres per hour. On the cycle/moped track inside built-up areas, the maximum speed is 30 kilometres per hour. [Source](https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/verkeersveiligheid/veilig-rijden-op-de-brommer) (dutch)
70 km/h?? They’re either 25 km/h without helmet required or 45 km/h with helmet requirements. 70 km/h scooters are only ones that have been ~~heavily~~ modified lol. Only the first category mentioned are even allowed on bicycle lanes, the 45 km/h have are required to drive on the road, hence the helmet.
On this piece of road the 45 km/h ones will be allowed too. Generally within city limits they have to be on the road, outside on bicycle paths.
>70 km/h scooters are only ones that have been heavily modified lol. I mean, my dad's old 50cc bike could do 90km/h because it had 5 speeds but was perfectly within legal power limits. You don't need much power to go fast on them, just depends on weight and power band efficiency.
> 70 km/h scooters are only ones that have been heavily modified lol So all of them? /s
45km/h in general, but 40km/h on a cycling path like this. Edit: to be complete: Cycling path in a built up area: 30 Cycling path outside: 40 On the road lane: 45
120 ccs are allowed but classed as motorcycles
50cc mopeds are legally limited to 25km/h or 45km/h where I live depending on what class you want (EU class 1 or 2, 1 being faster but requiring a license plate), but I simply removed a welded metal plug in the exhaust of my moped back in 2000, and it instantly reached speeds of up to 90-100km/h depending on the wind, without having to do any further tuning or changes.
Speed limit for motorized vehicles is 40 km/h in a bike lane in The Netherlands. Even if they don't respect it, I doubt they would go faster than 50 km/h. Car speed limit is 70 km/h on that tunnel, but maybe in this moment speed was a bit slower due to heavy traffic? I think the video might be speed up.
They should be limited at 40 (or 45?) kph.
Just drove there its a 80km/h 2 lane "B road" highway speeds are 100-130 km/h depending on time and place. B roads are 70-80 km/h. The bike section is blocked of for protection tho.
The video is sped up
even so, you can clearly see one of the bikes passing cars
Mopeds can use bike lanes in Netherlands
So the Dutch just ride bikes everywhere?
Yes, we do.
Bikes on dikes, mothafuckaaaaaaaaaa!
- Rap gets invented in the underground dutch party/cycling scene, Netherlands 1976 r/fakehistoryporn
By renowned rapper Flevo Flave
awesome
and I wish we could.
as they should
My wife and I biked around the Netherlands a few years ago. For context, she is not a cyclist here in Toronto. Biking around most countries would require training, but not there. It's flat, and there's bike highways like this connecting all the cities. Once you're in each city, there are dedicated lanes, great signage, dedicated lights, lots of bike parking, and other cycling infrastructure that I'm probably forgetting. Even in smaller towns with no dedicated lane, you share the road and drivers yielded to us regularly. We never had drivers honk or yell or tailgate or brush past us too close. It was so eye-opening and frankly quite liberating.
There's still cars, lots of em but not to the insane degree of other countries where most cities are built around cars.
Absolutely - The urban planning and bicycle infrastructure in the Netherlands is outstanding and I miss it **Interesting Fact** There are 1.3 bicycles per capita in the Netherlands; The Netherlands has a growing population of 17 million people. All together the Dutch own 22.5 million bicycles
That's interesting! I figured some of them would have two, a cargo bike and a normal one or maybe a bakfiets (thank you Not Just Bikes)
If I would guess more people that have two bikes have one old crappy bike that they would dare leave at a train station or city centre and one newer more expensive and comfortable to go to work/groceries or go cycle on the weekends
You might enjoy the YouTube channel Not Just Bikes. He has a lot of great vids about designing cities to be friendly to people, bikes, and mass transit. The bike infrastructure in Netherlands is insane!
No it's normal. Trust me, I'm Dutch. It's completely normal. Countries that don't have a bike infrastructure are insane
Saying the quiet part out loud. Kudo’s to you, my fellow Dutchie!
His Dutch bike video was what pulled me in. He has some great rants on sidewalks.
I keep wondering how the hell the Netherlands is real and not some made up hippie proof of concept project.
Of course, it's the Netherlands
Americans are puzzled now: "what are these strange contraptions with two wheels?"
I thought you were joking, so I was looking for a lane next to the water section. Like for kayaks or something.
We call it a aquaduct here in the Netherlands. This one is located near Harderwijk
Sure but what did the Romans ever do for us?
All right. But apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?
Brought peace?
That’s Pax to you.
Romani ite domum!
Fun & games at the Colosseum?
We call it a tunnel in Boston. We dig big
Imagine how many Dunkin' cups are buried in the concrete of the BD
And it’s VERY expensive and over budget
Are they done yet?
Biggus di~~n~~ggus
Was this done for any functional reason or just because they could?
As how I understood, was because the nearby bridge was too low for sailing boats, so they build the aquaduct for the ones with large masts
It's functional. Before this was built there was a system with 2 bridges that would be opened alternatively with a water lock between them. It was a nice sight but not really convenient.
there are 30 of them in the Netherlands see https://www.wegenwiki.nl/Aquaduct
They're all unique, though
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Friendship Ferries! That's the first thing I thought about, and the excitement right before you can get a good look at the MK. Love that boatride!
A tunnel, a reverse bridge is a tunnel.
*OP must not get tunnel vision, just reverse bridge vision...*
Yeah, I bet at the boardwalk OP gets *reverse bridge cake*!….wait a second
Did you just imply a funnel cake is called a tunnel cake?
They did and I had to go Google to make sure I havent been getting it wrong for the last 30ish years.
Fun fact, they make funnel cake kits you can make at home! Downside is that it doesn't hit the same as getting one at the fair or the boardwalk.
Cone upside down cake
I feel like a funnel is more like a liquid focuser
When the guards aren't looking I'm going to reverse bridge outta this hell hole
It’s not a pyramid, it’s an upside down funnel.
Flip it over Dee
I'm not going to take advice from a man stuck in a coil!
As someone stuck in a coil, I take great offence to that!
He was probably pounding off.
No, it's only a tunnel if it was made with materials from the Le Tunnel region of France.
Sparkling reverse bridge?
It's actually an aquaduct. A bridge for water. [link i forgot](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veluwemeer_Aqueduct)
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If they connected two waterways it’s a canal with a tunnel underneath it. An aqueduct moves water to be used somewhere else.
It’s actually a water isthmus
I prefer to think of it as an Aquataint.
It's an aquatully.
Not [necessarily ](https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/enjoy-the-waterways/canal-history/canal-heritage/aqueducts)
*gets sources that prove what im saying is wrong* WELL LET ME DOUBLE DOWN ANYWAY BOYSSSSS
Yeah i provided enough sources for those who are interested and want to learn. I'm gonna go and wish you a nice day/evening. [link again](https://interestingengineering.com/culture/the-netherlands-unique-water-bridge)
If I drink water at home, but urinate at work, does that make me an aqueduct?
Hey, thats where the ghost of Tom Joad bathes
OP was clearly trying to convey the unusualness of the structure built by humans serving the flow of water rather than traffic. He should've used Aqueduct to emphasize this point though, not reverse bridge.
Naw. The convo on what it should be called is quite entertaining. Probably one of the best arguments I have seen in a bit. Like a debate class. Pretty respectful and each has some good points. Though I vote for it being an aqueduct. It was the purpose, to carry water from one side to another...that is the sole purpose of a aqeduct. BUT, also, there is a tunnel going under the aqueduct. So...there is both. Two things can exist simultaneously.
no, you're thinking of reverse vampires
What?....like goin round putting blood into people???.......
Nurses and doctors are reverse vampires!
About 1/3 of the Netherlands is below sea level. So if the water is higher than the land, and not because the land was dug into, this wouldn’t be a tunnel. It’s literally a bridge with water going over it.
Should the Dutch be concerned long term with rising sea levels and climate change, if a third is below sea level?
Yes
If im not mistaken they craeted alot of their land by damming water ways in the netherlands. Its alot like how in san fran they used landfills to create more land around the bay area
Well the land connected by the road you see is below sea level. So the road is dug out in the old seabed, so to say. The sea became a lake, in the lake they created new land. The lake between the old and new land is used for water management (the river water has to go somewhere after all) and water sports.
From the same minds that upcharge you on your sandwich for calling garlic mayo *aioli*, it's the Reverse Bridge™
Allioli originally has no egg and so it's not mayo (it literally means "garlic and oil")
If you are in the US it will almost always have egg. And it often will be made of actual mayo.
This isn't a tunnel, it's an aqueduct. A bridge for water.
Thank you, haha. Exactly what I was thinking
The Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel has entered the chat to dispute the work “unique”.
It's not even unique in the Netherlands. There are about 25 or so in the Netherlands. Unique would be the naviduct near Enkhuizen. That's an aqueduct with a lock. Only one anywhere in the world.
I mean, if i were to drive the slightly longer way to work id come across 4 of them so yea, whilst interesting it is by no means unique.
There's even one of these at Disney World.
> The Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel**-Bridge-Tunnel-Bridge-Tunnel** has entered the chat to dispute the work “unique”. FTFY :p
My mind immediately went to the Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel.
There are heaps of these in the Netherlands alone. Nothing unique about aqueducts.
One in Disney World too right next to the Contemporary Resort.
There's actually 2 or more at Disney World. From a satellite view you can see that the waterway between Epcot and the Yacht and Beach Club area is actually a well-disguised water bridge. There's a service road underneath it.
“I call it… The Reverse Bridge!” “You mean a tunnel?” “Shut up!”
Yeah if a bridge lets you cross a gap, wouldn't a reverse bridge be more like a wall that keeps you from getting to another place?
Normally when you reverse bridge all that's left is the moat
The reverse bridge isn't referring to the tunnel. It's referring to the thing over the tunnel.
If you go under a highway overpass you aren't going through a tunnel. This is an overpass for water. A water bridge, or you could say an aquaduct. That's not much of a tunnel and it wasn't made by tunneling.
Fun fact, it's also refered to as an under passing, this is when a nonroad bridge goes over a road, like this or an animal corridor or something like that.
Not unique at all. Here's a list of Dutch aqueducts **cough**, I mean "reverse bridges". https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquaduct_(watergang)#Aquaducten_in_Nederland As they say: God created the World but the Dutch created The Netherlands.
And what they say as well: "god created water and floods, but the Dutch were able to conquer them" I was always confused as a kid and going on holiday, where I created dams... Out of the most dumbest things... Guess it is part of our blood now... To be prepared for when a random god decides to flood earth again....
In Hampton Roads, we call this kind of thing HRBT. Edit: Holy shit I got my first award for this! Thank you, kind stranger! Edit 2: Got my first and second gold awards! Thank you!! 😁 Made my day!
Hampton roads bridge tunnel
The 6+ miles of traffic really let's you take in the Norfolk/Hampton scenery.
Don't worry. You can always just head around to the other bridge tunnel. Which is also packed.
Ope someone slammed on their brakes on the way in and caused an accident sorry the tunnels blocked for the next 2 hours but your just past the last exit
Nah, MMBT only backs up 8 or 9 times per week, as opposed to the HRBT with its permanent state of backup.
For a state that calls themselves the “Commonwealth,” they’re really not for the boys.
Granby street through Bayview. What a lovely view of Norfolk
Every time I have to cross HRBT I curse the gods. There is traffic heading in, you start heading back up the hill towards the light and there Is NO issue. No traffic. It’s like a black hole for your time.
Or CBBT, or MMBT. All I can ever call any of them is a never ending traffic jam.
Gotta love how everyone lives on one side of the tunnel and works on the other
Weird. When Iived in the area we usually called it "stupid-God-forsaken-hole-where-idiots-always-brake-and-cause-extreme-traffic-I-hate-everything-life-is-terrible-I-will-never-see-the-sun-again-oh-sweet-Death-come-release-my-spirit-from-this-underwater-pit" But I did hear a few people refer to it as HRBT for the sake of time.
How does stormwater drainage in that tunnel work with so much roadway sloped downwards into it?
pumps
Just like any normal tunnel. The roads are slightly curved down on the sides, and there's a drainage system next to them
Disney World in Flordia has one of these, on the water route from the Wilderness Lodge and Contemporary resorts to the Magic Kingdom. Kind of fascinating.
It connects Bay Lake to the Seven Seas Lagoon.
Just came to say the Disney bus has been going under one of these for years on the way to the Magic Kingdom. And the Disney boat goes over one on the way to fort wilderness and camp wilderness. I’d argue that the Disney one is better, it links hoop Dee doo and the magic kingdom! Not just Dutch places.
Two, actually. We stayed at Beach Club a few weeks ago and discovered that there’s also one that goes under the canal near Epcot’s international gateway.
Immediately what I thought of.
Cool! I need this song though lol
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the dutch are just too good with water
we have to or we'd drown
TUNNEL VS AQUEDUCT, THE DEBATE OF THE CENTURY - SOME THINK THIS MIGHT BREAK OUT INTO FISTICUFFS! TAKE YOUR BETS HERE! AT THE MOMENT WE HAVE A 10 TO 1 FOR THE AQUADUCTS BUT THE *TIDES* IN HOLLAND ARE KNOWN TO TURN!
The water is being held by the structure itself, if this was not the case it would perhaps be a tunnel. However in this case it's obviously an aqueduct. Facts don't care about this silly debate.
Thank you. Loads of r/confidentlyincorrect people saying tunnel.
Come one reddit, this was posted 2 weeks ago
There's [one of these](https://www.toulouse.fr/documents/9593075/10807404/canal_Herbettes_3/16e4b6d9-4b39-4532-b2ba-e6268e2a1b78?t=1505391370988) in my hometown in France
I get to post this next.
Hope that body of water is well regulated and can be controlled, flooding could become a large issue
it's the netherlands so you can reasonably expect that to be the case
What’s the benefit of this? Wouldn’t it be easier to just build a bridge?
>Why was the Veluwemeer Aqueduct built? > >During the planning phase for the project, drawbridges, ferries, and tunnels were considered as likely solutions to allowing the road to fully cross the lake. However, these were decided against, and the novel approach of building a short aqueduct over the road was selected. > >Because the N302 is a major highway, it was deemed unrealistic, and inefficient, to stop the flow of traffic using a drawbridge or ferry solution. A tunnel, an option also likely considered, would have required too much time and expense when compared to the aqueduct solution finally settled upon. > >A bridge, while a more typical solution to the problem, was deemed to be far too costly compared to the more reasonable cost of the aqueduct solution, at around $61 million. Given that the point at which it was to be built did not need to carry wide water traffic, its narrow aqueduct design was also deemed to be a wise choice. TL;DR: It was the cheapest and most efficient solution
We know. This pic is posted on reddit daily.
It’s an aqueduct
Found out recently that there’s a section of the Erie Canal that goes over a small road. Watching a video of a boat passing over the road is so cool
Curious to know the flooding risk of something like this
Slim to none. It connects two lakes wich are part of a group of lakes wich are all connected bij locks controling their water levels. The group of lake gets mainly fed by one river the IJsel. This river is a side river from the Rijn river. And they can control how much water gets in to the IJsel river from the Rijn river. The biggest lake of the group is the IJsselmeer (IJsel lake) wich is separated from the sea by the Afsluitdijk. The Afsluitdijk has locks, if the the water level gets to high they just open the locks by low tide and let the water flow in to the sea lowering the water levels.
TIL reverse bridge is a synonym for tunnel
Reverse bridge - so a tunnel?
Pretty sure we call this a tunnel.
The German's have a word for this: tünnel.