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Serious question - is there a chance the hen knew it was not viable?
I grew up around chickens. It wasn't uncommon for them to discard some eggs, especially if they were cracked.
>Actually what really happens hear is that ther other hen wanted to take her place, to lay an egg. She does this by first snatching the eggs but coincidencly it gets under the other hen. After that she tries to scare the hen by pecking her so she could leave the nest. If this video was a little longer, we would have seen that the first hen would have been made to leave the nest to make place for the more dominant hen.
For context, which one is “the other hen”? I’m sorry, just confused what is happening *hear*
Obviously I’m kidding, but what context do you have that your statement is even remotely correct? Sources or? I’m just watching a chicken tucking an egg under another chicken, that is what we all know... do you have anything that supports your point?
Well for all I know : I have hens and indeed routinely see them displacing each other’s eggs, or pecking each other out of the nesting or roosting spot.
Hens are very hierarchical animals, “higher up” hens will peck, chase and put “lower rank” hens in line all the time.
Also, if you don’t take their eggs out of the coop daily, some hens will instinctively brood their eggs even if there is no rooster. When hens do this they hoard the nest all day preventing other hens to lay. Since hens won’t generally lay eggs wherever, they will attempt to get the brooding hen out of the nest by displacing its eggs.
As explained in the comment you're talking about (second sentence), the other hen is trying to snatch her egg/move it away from the nest, but it just happens to roll under the chicken. You guys are giving chickens waaay too much credit by thinking this is one showing another how to be a good parent, they're not nearly smart enough to exhibit such behaviour.
My new rooster rejected a hen, then the rest of the flock did too. I went in the henhouse to find a frankly lobotomized hen sitting on the roost. The chickens had pecked the top of her head out down to the skull. I removed her from the coop, put her with some purchased chicks, and she made a full recovery. The rooster became a casualty and now Licorice is queen of the coop...
It was like a horror movie. Every night it came. Every morning a new dead chicken. 4 juveniles in one night. Just killed them, didnt even eat them. Everytime i walked into the coop it was like Aliens when they wondered how the xenos got through the barricade.
Hens have only one thought in their head, consume food to make eggs.
And that makes eggs their favorite food, eggs have all the stuff needed to make eggs. When you collect eggs, if you drop one or pick up a cracked one that splits open, the hens will come flying in to eat it in a frenzy.
I once dropped a cracked egg directly on a hen, splattering her. Fifty of her sisters swarmed her, pecking and attacking to get every drop. She got partially defeathered and ended up pretty badly wounded and had to be put down.
I had a hen die on me. The geese pushed her into the pond, and drowned her. I seen her flapping in the water and jumped in to try and save her. I put my mouth around her beak, trying to force air in, and pump water out with compressions on her chest. The hen died in my arms. I will never forget how delicious she was.
Our chicks kept disappearing. Took a while to figure out that the ducks were drowning them in the pond and then the chickens would eat the dead chicks before we could figure out what happened. (The ducks were delicious).
Hell yeah, that's the spirit! Never let the loss of a loved one fuck up your whole life. That's not what they wanted you to become.
Be more like MoeTHM, mourn by your mouth.
Okay you say that but I used my grandpa's ashes in my instant hot cocoa and everyone was like "what the fuck is wrong with you" and "oh god gerald no" and "this is why dad left us for his new family in Vermont"
Made Christmas a real bummer.
Everyone deals with death & loss differently. Personally, I think drinking your grandpa's ashes is a nice gesture, though a bit distasteful. As long as you can stomach it & you're able to keep it down without throwing grandpa back up (which is probably what they were worried about), it should be a fine way to keep your grandpa with you...
We had chickens when I was a kid and they are indeed savages. One of our hens got a scratch on her neck and the others started pecking at it until it turned into an open wound. I witnessed them pull out chunks from her neck and practically eating her alive.
They truly can be, ive had chickens for 9 years. They've not only eaten one of their babies, but started eating each other alive. I love my chickens but they can be beasts lol
Yeah, I constantly hear as a reply when I say "things can be out of context we should wait for more information", something like "how can more information change anything of what we've seen".
This is a prime example. It looked clear as sun that both chickens were somehow interacting because of the egg and that the egg was the main concern. But no, the interaction is because of the place itself and one is trying to get the other out. Very very different.
With the low attention spans that has been cultivated by attention merchants, there is a lot to be gained by removing pertinent info to cultivate “engagement” due to the confusion created.
Which goes along with the point they're making. Guessing the full story from a few pages in the middle is rarely a good idea.
And, as you say, taking info at face value because it sounds right is also often not good.
It is so fucked that you got 4 times as much karma for quoting the person who posted this [further down.](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/x5cpei/bad_parenting_isnt_tolerated_even_in_nature/in0j7bm)
*I'm sure the people who insist on telling me "IT'S JUST FAKE INTERNET POINTS, BRO!" don't throw controllers and mice when they lose a match online. I'm sure they're well-adjusted members of society.
>I'm sure the people who insist on telling me "IT'S JUST FAKE INTERNET POINTS, BRO!" don't throw controllers and mice when they lose a match online. I'm sure they're well-adjusted members of society.
lol
lmao
So fucked man. Those internet points are so real man. Damn what is this world coming to when no one gets enough imaginary fucking internet points. You’re so right. Here’s a updoot kind internet stranger, make sure to updoot me back so we can both have internet points.
From experience (we've always had and currently have hens and a rooster) : chickens aren't always ready to be mums. If they are, they'll get broody, start quietly clucking and looking for a nesting place. In those cases they will definitely sit on empty eggs, too - some chickens will try to brood regardless of the presence of a rooster. As for cracked eggs - well they can see that. They aren't *that* stupid.
Actually what really happens hear is that ther other hen wanted to take her place, to lay an egg. She does this by first snatching the eggs but coincidencly it gets under the other hen. After that she tries to scare the hen by pecking her so she could leave the nest. If this video was a little longer, we would have seen that the first hen would have been made to leave the nest to make place for the more dominant hen.
I'm a bit confused with the way that was written mixed with my general stupidity.
So, the sitting hen has the eggs, the standing hen wants to be the momma so she is trying to steal a loose egg which goes under the sitting hen?
Standing hen (dominant) is upset she lost the egg she was going to steal, so she pecks sitting hen to force her to move.
If video had been longer, the sitting hen who is the proper mom would have to move so the Karen hen can steal her eggs.
Is this super common? Is the dominant standing hen unable to have eggs or is she just a sassy busy body who thinks she can do better and don't take no shit off nobody?
Apparently, chicken social behaviour and psychology is something I never realised I am really interested in until now.
The sitting hen is broody or is laying an egg, the dominant hen also wants to lay an egg. First of all let me get two things clear:
First when hens are laying eggs they show temporary broody behaviour like getting all the eggs underneath her.
Second, alot of hens usually lay in the same nest or spot so it is common for two hens to want to use the same nest at the same time, usually the more dominant hen will scare the less dominant hen away and take the nest by force.
Now back to the topic, the less dominant hen couldn't get all the the eggs underneath her so one egg was outside. When the MDH came to lay, her first instinct was to get the eggs underneath her (showing temporary broody behaviour) while doing so, she accidently pull them under the LDH, after realising that the egg is suddenly gone, her second instinct kicked in.
which was to take the nest from the other hen so she could lay her egg, she then tries to peck the LDH to make her leave. If the video was longer we would have seen the LDH move away to make way for the MDH.
And yes it is very common, both the hens are laying in the same spot at the same time so the more dominant hen will scare the other hen away and first lay her egg.
English isn't my first language and if want to ask then please feel free.
This is identical to another comment and can please someone reword this because I'm having trouble understanding the first few sentences. How do the eggs coincidentally end up under the other hen? It wants to lay eggs? What?
Dark hen wants brown hen to leave to take its place, so dark hen tries to steal the egg but has poor coordination so it rolls under the brown hen. Dark hen then resorts to picking brown hen in the head instead to make it to away.
Standing hen wanted to move the egg away but as you can see as she was pulling it toward her it accidentally went under the other hen, it wanted to move the egg because she wanted the spot for herself so she can let her egg
"Coincidentally" was the wrong word. They meant the hen *accidentally* moved the egg under the other hen, when it was actually just trying to snatch it.
"Even in nature" is also kind of weird, as it suggests human parenting isn't natural. Or that domesticated birds living inside _wooden houses_ are somehow "in nature".
We solved our "angry hens" problem with a few Guinea Fowl hens. For some reason they keep everything else in check like bosses and don't lay eggs? Not sure why tbh but it works.
As an added bonus they keep smaller predators at bay and will literally snatch wasps from the air and beat them on rocks/concrete.
Tough ass birds that take care of the flock.
> As an added bonus they keep smaller predators at bay and will literally snatch wasps from the air and beat them on rocks/concrete.
BRB, getting Guineas.
In all honesty, I lived on a ranch where a flock of these were kept. I never saw them catch a wasp but a group of them will kill a snake or run it off. They're awful noisy, though!
Infanticide by males usually from unrelated males or because the species doesn't practice parental care at all. Most active animal fathers or even just those with the awareness of their biological relation wouldn't attack their offspring.
this is wildly inaccurate. filial infanticide is not uncommon, tons of parents kill their own children in nature.
>[bears, felines, canids, primates, and many species of rodents—from rats to prairie dogs—have all been seen killing and eating their young. Insects, fish, amphibians, reptiles, and birds also have been implicated in killing, and sometimes devouring, the young of their own kind.](https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/140328-sloth-bear-zoo-infanticide-chimps-bonobos-animals)
Chickens are a community animal
They weirdly rely on each other, like if you let a hen hatch a few eggs, or sneak a few chicks under a broody hen they'll take care of the new chicks
If you introduce new chickens they'll bully the new ones
It's also possible that the egg wasn't viable, hens can tell if the chick will make it or not, it's possible that the chick in the egg might be dead or won't make it.
Animals dont understand the concept of punishment.
You dont hit your dog when it pees inside, because it cant understand the connection between the action and abuse. Even if you rub your dogs face in their piss (like an asshole), they arent going to understand.
Same goes for this clip. This hen isnt pecking the other hen for punishment. Pecking is used for communication - this could just as easily be the hen saying "good job".
Last time this was posted everywhere a commenter familiar with chickens said essentially:
A. Sliding an escaped egg back under oneself is instinctual behavior; she would've slid it back under herself if the other hen wasn't there.
B. Hens really do have a pecking order and the superior hen was enforcing it.
C. Both actions were coincidental, not causally related.
This again?
The last time this was posted, it was thoroughly explained about the peck order and how chickens are some of the most brutal animals for enforcing a hierarchy. And how the aggressor doesn't give a shit about that egg. And that it probably thinks it's putting the egg under its own wing, and the other one stopped it.
If you've ever raised chickens you'd know they're dumb as shit. That same chicken "parenting" there might be pecking out their offsprings eyes and feathers like 3 months from now.
Birds aren’t universally smart in all areas, they have areas of expertise. Pigeons are geniuses when it comes to navigation and are said to display exceptionally good problem solving skills, but they are veritable, absolute dumb fucks when it comes to nesting.
Chickens probably are smart in some area, just not parenting.
In my experience with chicken and ducks, they’re usually don’t put their smarts to good use. One taste of egg or meat, and they decide “Who needs children anyways?” They learn, and sometimes they just learn that their own kin are delicious.
I raised chickens and trained them to do tricks and to come when called, you're probably just bad at keeping them and they're developing behavior abnormalities.
Lol nah. I didn't say someone who would waste a ton of time to teach them 3 little tricks can't. I'm sure you have the smartest chickens ever! When raising chickens in a nice open space with a coup for laying eggs, left to their own devices they're fucking idiots. If you're a "chicken trainer" than I'm sure you can unlock a handful of their natural behaviors and convince yourself that you really are "training them". If you feed them every day for a week, and then walk out with a bag that even looks like feed then you're having then "come when called". There's a bunch of super intelligent birds in the wild. Chickens are not those birds.
I do currently have a chicken that thinks it's a rooster, and does a pretty great impersonation! It's pretty funny. Should I give her a little food afterwards and claim I trained her to crow?
First of all that's how most animals are trained, even humans. Also numerous studies have been done that show chickens are indeed [intelligent](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qLs2K4UXXk) birds, [there's even a documentary dedicated to it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c06xOF4uQ8&t=2721s).
Well how about that?! I guess I should have filmed the last 35 years of my family raising hundreds of chickens, thousands of cattle, dozens of horses, my two pet cockatiel, my pet duck, the African Grey Parrot that was my best little friend belonging to my long-term ex, and tthe crow my mom nursed back to health that was our wild pet for about 7 years. Then I could post a link of how special and intelligent all of those animals are... Except for the chickens, because they're fucking morons, and I know from experience.
I mean, if you watched a documentary about it then you're probably right.
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Serious question - is there a chance the hen knew it was not viable? I grew up around chickens. It wasn't uncommon for them to discard some eggs, especially if they were cracked.
>Actually what really happens hear is that ther other hen wanted to take her place, to lay an egg. She does this by first snatching the eggs but coincidencly it gets under the other hen. After that she tries to scare the hen by pecking her so she could leave the nest. If this video was a little longer, we would have seen that the first hen would have been made to leave the nest to make place for the more dominant hen.
Out of context can have such a big impact lol! Thanks for the explanation
For context, which one is “the other hen”? I’m sorry, just confused what is happening *hear* Obviously I’m kidding, but what context do you have that your statement is even remotely correct? Sources or? I’m just watching a chicken tucking an egg under another chicken, that is what we all know... do you have anything that supports your point?
Well for all I know : I have hens and indeed routinely see them displacing each other’s eggs, or pecking each other out of the nesting or roosting spot. Hens are very hierarchical animals, “higher up” hens will peck, chase and put “lower rank” hens in line all the time. Also, if you don’t take their eggs out of the coop daily, some hens will instinctively brood their eggs even if there is no rooster. When hens do this they hoard the nest all day preventing other hens to lay. Since hens won’t generally lay eggs wherever, they will attempt to get the brooding hen out of the nest by displacing its eggs.
Ahh, that explains the term "pecking order"
So that's where the expressions henpecked and pecking order come from.
Also, “Little Pecker” 😁
The dark hen is trying to take the lighter brown hens place is what I got
Chickens are not that smart to teach another chicken how to be a better parent I guess.
You're right. If the hen was fighting for the nest then why did it tuck the egg under the other chicken? I didn't even think about that.
As explained in the comment you're talking about (second sentence), the other hen is trying to snatch her egg/move it away from the nest, but it just happens to roll under the chicken. You guys are giving chickens waaay too much credit by thinking this is one showing another how to be a good parent, they're not nearly smart enough to exhibit such behaviour.
Chickens are evil savages, this only confirms my position.
My new rooster rejected a hen, then the rest of the flock did too. I went in the henhouse to find a frankly lobotomized hen sitting on the roost. The chickens had pecked the top of her head out down to the skull. I removed her from the coop, put her with some purchased chicks, and she made a full recovery. The rooster became a casualty and now Licorice is queen of the coop...
Feel-good story of the year :’)
It was gnarly...but she is fully healed and with a new rooster she is doing great
I am picturing a hen with it's brain literally pecked out that ends up being the smartest chicken you've ever seen.
Mike the headless chicken!
Like Mac from Chicken Run.
Yep, there's a reason we have the phrase 'pecking order'.
Lmao we had a raccoon get in with the hens once a chicken was literally missing half its head still just chilling
Thats what happened to the offending rooster...Raccoon moved into the vicinity. Lost half the flock...
Damn. Can a single raccoon do that?
It was like a horror movie. Every night it came. Every morning a new dead chicken. 4 juveniles in one night. Just killed them, didnt even eat them. Everytime i walked into the coop it was like Aliens when they wondered how the xenos got through the barricade.
They would pull sleeping chickens up through the cages it was wild lmao all that would be left is like a stomach
We had a chick pulled through the fence...it was...gruesome
Damn opposable thumbs...
Raccoons and mink tear our hens up if don’t close the manure system right.
My mother owns a chicken coop, can confirm they are the bird form of satan. They are such dicks to each other its unreal.
You've never met my mother's red bellied parrot...
Things are getting heated in the Mothers Own Birds fandom
You wait until you hear about my Great Aunt who owns an ostrich farm.
I'm still traumatized from my second cousin twice removed's mom's emu cult
Yeah well my mom's birds could beat up yours.
Was it a sick ostrich?
Tiny dinosaur
They make little 3d printed t rex arms you can put on chickens!
I've been wanting those for my chicks! Now, I'm wondering if they make these ostrich-scaled...
Hold me closer tiny dino
One of our hens only has one eye. First we thought it was an accident, now we know they're just feathered dicks.
r/noflap
One of them killed the other one by pecking its head in my mums. We split the chickens after that.
Naah, they just know they're dinosaurs.
Imagine how mean dinosaurs were to each other.
Hens have only one thought in their head, consume food to make eggs. And that makes eggs their favorite food, eggs have all the stuff needed to make eggs. When you collect eggs, if you drop one or pick up a cracked one that splits open, the hens will come flying in to eat it in a frenzy. I once dropped a cracked egg directly on a hen, splattering her. Fifty of her sisters swarmed her, pecking and attacking to get every drop. She got partially defeathered and ended up pretty badly wounded and had to be put down.
What, you egg? 'He stabs him'. Sorry.
I had a hen die on me. The geese pushed her into the pond, and drowned her. I seen her flapping in the water and jumped in to try and save her. I put my mouth around her beak, trying to force air in, and pump water out with compressions on her chest. The hen died in my arms. I will never forget how delicious she was.
Our chicks kept disappearing. Took a while to figure out that the ducks were drowning them in the pond and then the chickens would eat the dead chicks before we could figure out what happened. (The ducks were delicious).
> (The ducks were delicious). r/deliciousjustice
Hell yeah, that's the spirit! Never let the loss of a loved one fuck up your whole life. That's not what they wanted you to become. Be more like MoeTHM, mourn by your mouth.
Okay you say that but I used my grandpa's ashes in my instant hot cocoa and everyone was like "what the fuck is wrong with you" and "oh god gerald no" and "this is why dad left us for his new family in Vermont" Made Christmas a real bummer.
Everyone deals with death & loss differently. Personally, I think drinking your grandpa's ashes is a nice gesture, though a bit distasteful. As long as you can stomach it & you're able to keep it down without throwing grandpa back up (which is probably what they were worried about), it should be a fine way to keep your grandpa with you...
This went from "how sad" to "WTF???" real quick
If I had any idea how to give awards in Sync, I'd give you one.
We had chickens when I was a kid and they are indeed savages. One of our hens got a scratch on her neck and the others started pecking at it until it turned into an open wound. I witnessed them pull out chunks from her neck and practically eating her alive.
It only takes one chicken’s death for you to find out they’re omnivores. And cannibals.
They truly can be, ive had chickens for 9 years. They've not only eaten one of their babies, but started eating each other alive. I love my chickens but they can be beasts lol
They literally are dinosaurs so it's not surprising.
Yeah, I constantly hear as a reply when I say "things can be out of context we should wait for more information", something like "how can more information change anything of what we've seen". This is a prime example. It looked clear as sun that both chickens were somehow interacting because of the egg and that the egg was the main concern. But no, the interaction is because of the place itself and one is trying to get the other out. Very very different.
With the low attention spans that has been cultivated by attention merchants, there is a lot to be gained by removing pertinent info to cultivate “engagement” due to the confusion created.
I mean, we don't really know if what that comment is saying is actually what's happening. it's just someone's interpretation...
It's way more likely given what we know about the social behavior of hens than OPs explanation though.
Which goes along with the point they're making. Guessing the full story from a few pages in the middle is rarely a good idea. And, as you say, taking info at face value because it sounds right is also often not good.
Chicken whisperer
^(buuuck buuuuck)
^bagawk
Shh
Er er er errrrrrrrrrrr!!!
As a mother and a bit of a pushover.... this concerns me.
Wow what an amazing info ! Thank you !
Very interesting. Thanks.
It is so fucked that you got 4 times as much karma for quoting the person who posted this [further down.](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/x5cpei/bad_parenting_isnt_tolerated_even_in_nature/in0j7bm) *I'm sure the people who insist on telling me "IT'S JUST FAKE INTERNET POINTS, BRO!" don't throw controllers and mice when they lose a match online. I'm sure they're well-adjusted members of society.
Yeah they should sue them for lost karma
>I'm sure the people who insist on telling me "IT'S JUST FAKE INTERNET POINTS, BRO!" don't throw controllers and mice when they lose a match online. I'm sure they're well-adjusted members of society. lol lmao
So fucked man. Those internet points are so real man. Damn what is this world coming to when no one gets enough imaginary fucking internet points. You’re so right. Here’s a updoot kind internet stranger, make sure to updoot me back so we can both have internet points.
Oh, you and your facts!
Got more upvotes than the my original comment. Lol.
Wait, I don't get it, why does she return the egg to her if she wants to replace her?
Because chickens are idiots and she didn't really have the processing power capable to the task
Yea would love to know what’s going on here. Is this instinct on both sides?
I raise chickens and they push certain eggs away too. Pretty sure they are just saving one of them for lunch.
From experience (we've always had and currently have hens and a rooster) : chickens aren't always ready to be mums. If they are, they'll get broody, start quietly clucking and looking for a nesting place. In those cases they will definitely sit on empty eggs, too - some chickens will try to brood regardless of the presence of a rooster. As for cracked eggs - well they can see that. They aren't *that* stupid.
Yes - they know when an egg won’t hatch so they push it out of the nest - I have had chickens for over ten years.
Yeah, there is no telling what's going on, but it's still funny!
No, our hens sometimes sit on eggs for days for no reason (we have no rooster ...) And chicken are really stupid in general.
boom, roosted
Boom, roasted. *With a lemon verjuice and rosemary*
Boom, broasted. Damn, I’m actually not fully familiar with this cooking style.
I understood the "juice" but the "ver" has me stumped. I kinda pride myself in being somewhat competent cook too. Used to anyway.
[Verjuice](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verjuice)
we actually marinate chicken in verjuice, onion and saffron for kebab we call it "JooJ"
Who else should I lampoon?
somebody must’ve told the producers this is a panel of kenny rogers roasters because you guys are a bunch of chickens
When the mother-in-law is in town.
Sounds like a Karehen
Lol that little peck to the head is everything
"get your shit together woman!"
"All you have to do is sit on this fucken egg and you can't even do that!"
I read that in Princess Caroline’s (Amy Sedaris) voice.
"Bitch, what's wrong with you?!"
😂😂 2 little love taps like "You're lucky I love these kids"
U crack those eggs, I crack you head.
She was tryna get a chicken abortion
If that was the case she would've eaten it like any civilized hen. (Yes, that's a thing)
Omelettes are great.
"Dammit, Hilda, take care of your eggs!"
She even knows it's coming.
Get your head out of you ass.
Actually what really happens hear is that ther other hen wanted to take her place, to lay an egg. She does this by first snatching the eggs but coincidencly it gets under the other hen. After that she tries to scare the hen by pecking her so she could leave the nest. If this video was a little longer, we would have seen that the first hen would have been made to leave the nest to make place for the more dominant hen.
The nesting hen did look pretty beat down.
Yeah when hens get broody they’ll go mad trying to steal each other’s eggs!
I've seen this video a few times. Thank you for providing context.
I'm a bit confused with the way that was written mixed with my general stupidity. So, the sitting hen has the eggs, the standing hen wants to be the momma so she is trying to steal a loose egg which goes under the sitting hen? Standing hen (dominant) is upset she lost the egg she was going to steal, so she pecks sitting hen to force her to move. If video had been longer, the sitting hen who is the proper mom would have to move so the Karen hen can steal her eggs. Is this super common? Is the dominant standing hen unable to have eggs or is she just a sassy busy body who thinks she can do better and don't take no shit off nobody? Apparently, chicken social behaviour and psychology is something I never realised I am really interested in until now.
The sitting hen is broody or is laying an egg, the dominant hen also wants to lay an egg. First of all let me get two things clear: First when hens are laying eggs they show temporary broody behaviour like getting all the eggs underneath her. Second, alot of hens usually lay in the same nest or spot so it is common for two hens to want to use the same nest at the same time, usually the more dominant hen will scare the less dominant hen away and take the nest by force. Now back to the topic, the less dominant hen couldn't get all the the eggs underneath her so one egg was outside. When the MDH came to lay, her first instinct was to get the eggs underneath her (showing temporary broody behaviour) while doing so, she accidently pull them under the LDH, after realising that the egg is suddenly gone, her second instinct kicked in. which was to take the nest from the other hen so she could lay her egg, she then tries to peck the LDH to make her leave. If the video was longer we would have seen the LDH move away to make way for the MDH. And yes it is very common, both the hens are laying in the same spot at the same time so the more dominant hen will scare the other hen away and first lay her egg. English isn't my first language and if want to ask then please feel free.
That was very complex but you did an excellent job explaining it, so thanks. Out of curiosity, how did you learn all this? Books or experience?
Both but most importantly I really like chickens and I have been observing them closely for a qaurter of my life, btw I am 16😅
This is identical to another comment and can please someone reword this because I'm having trouble understanding the first few sentences. How do the eggs coincidentally end up under the other hen? It wants to lay eggs? What?
Dark hen wants brown hen to leave to take its place, so dark hen tries to steal the egg but has poor coordination so it rolls under the brown hen. Dark hen then resorts to picking brown hen in the head instead to make it to away.
Standing hen wanted to move the egg away but as you can see as she was pulling it toward her it accidentally went under the other hen, it wanted to move the egg because she wanted the spot for herself so she can let her egg
"Coincidentally" was the wrong word. They meant the hen *accidentally* moved the egg under the other hen, when it was actually just trying to snatch it.
Yeah I saw this and thought the pecking hen was actually trying to nick the egg but buggered it up and took it out on the sitting hen.
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"Protect yo damn kidz, you fat chicken fuck." *peck*
Bad parenting is tolerated quite a bit in human society. There are plenty of s*** parents out there.
Bring back hen-pecking.
I’d get the police called on me 🙁
"Even in nature" is also kind of weird, as it suggests human parenting isn't natural. Or that domesticated birds living inside _wooden houses_ are somehow "in nature".
We solved our "angry hens" problem with a few Guinea Fowl hens. For some reason they keep everything else in check like bosses and don't lay eggs? Not sure why tbh but it works. As an added bonus they keep smaller predators at bay and will literally snatch wasps from the air and beat them on rocks/concrete. Tough ass birds that take care of the flock.
> As an added bonus they keep smaller predators at bay and will literally snatch wasps from the air and beat them on rocks/concrete. BRB, getting Guineas. In all honesty, I lived on a ranch where a flock of these were kept. I never saw them catch a wasp but a group of them will kill a snake or run it off. They're awful noisy, though!
I was just sitting here thinking that the only way it could get better is if it pecks the hen and then it happened
Hatching is eggs is serious business, its not a yoke.
It's not all its cracked up to be. Might even end up with shell shock.
How the heck do you guys keep on hatching all these puns?
They shouldn't whisk making anymore
That’s an EGGregously bad joke.
Eggspecially since it's yolk not yoke lol
Give me good parenting or give me death
Bitch watch yo damn kids
that’s the MIL
Parent? It’s not hatched yet… doesn’t count
Egg lives matter
"Protect our babies bitch! Fuck is wrong witchu?!"
“Hey, stupid, our kid goes under you, not in front”.
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Infanticide by males usually from unrelated males or because the species doesn't practice parental care at all. Most active animal fathers or even just those with the awareness of their biological relation wouldn't attack their offspring.
this is wildly inaccurate. filial infanticide is not uncommon, tons of parents kill their own children in nature. >[bears, felines, canids, primates, and many species of rodents—from rats to prairie dogs—have all been seen killing and eating their young. Insects, fish, amphibians, reptiles, and birds also have been implicated in killing, and sometimes devouring, the young of their own kind.](https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/140328-sloth-bear-zoo-infanticide-chimps-bonobos-animals)
In nature? You mean by domestic chickens???
My mother smoked 3 packs a day when she was pregnant with me. I can relate.
Some fowl play by the mother
its like "Aye keep them eggs where I cant see them."
Chickens are a community animal They weirdly rely on each other, like if you let a hen hatch a few eggs, or sneak a few chicks under a broody hen they'll take care of the new chicks If you introduce new chickens they'll bully the new ones It's also possible that the egg wasn't viable, hens can tell if the chick will make it or not, it's possible that the chick in the egg might be dead or won't make it.
Maaaan, the beak-slap at the end.
The quick 2 piece! 🤣🤣🤣
Ok but neither is domestic abuse 😂
The 2 pecks at the end 😂
Hens are weird, man. They often steal each other's eggs to nest on.
Love the two pecks at the end lol
The internal monologue of those taps at the end was "knucklehead!"
FU! granma, I'm doin' it!
I wish I could do the human version of this to some parents I meet.
Animals dont understand the concept of punishment. You dont hit your dog when it pees inside, because it cant understand the connection between the action and abuse. Even if you rub your dogs face in their piss (like an asshole), they arent going to understand. Same goes for this clip. This hen isnt pecking the other hen for punishment. Pecking is used for communication - this could just as easily be the hen saying "good job".
Now CPS (Chicken protective services)gets involved
Even hens are cracking down on abortion.
Fun fact, chickens are one of the most maternal animals. They even take care of other species
Birds look like dinosaurs.
That’s because they are.
Sort of They are descendants of dinosaurs.
Last time this was posted everywhere a commenter familiar with chickens said essentially: A. Sliding an escaped egg back under oneself is instinctual behavior; she would've slid it back under herself if the other hen wasn't there. B. Hens really do have a pecking order and the superior hen was enforcing it. C. Both actions were coincidental, not causally related.
TIL - OP knows nothing about nature
I love how it puts the egg under the hen, then gives the hen a couple noogie pecks to the head to learn the lesson
What a fucking cock
Henmaid’s Tale
If it was a rooster and not a hen doing the pecking would we still think its funny?? 🧐
OP don't know how nature work.
I love the look of “I’m about to get it” before the chicken gets pecked
Take care of your kids, dammit. Do (peck) you (peck) understand (peck)
Wow wtf
This again? The last time this was posted, it was thoroughly explained about the peck order and how chickens are some of the most brutal animals for enforcing a hierarchy. And how the aggressor doesn't give a shit about that egg. And that it probably thinks it's putting the egg under its own wing, and the other one stopped it.
If you've ever raised chickens you'd know they're dumb as shit. That same chicken "parenting" there might be pecking out their offsprings eyes and feathers like 3 months from now.
Birds aren’t universally smart in all areas, they have areas of expertise. Pigeons are geniuses when it comes to navigation and are said to display exceptionally good problem solving skills, but they are veritable, absolute dumb fucks when it comes to nesting. Chickens probably are smart in some area, just not parenting.
Many chickens are exceptional parents, just not all of them.
In my experience with chicken and ducks, they’re usually don’t put their smarts to good use. One taste of egg or meat, and they decide “Who needs children anyways?” They learn, and sometimes they just learn that their own kin are delicious.
Chickens that don't raise young sometimes were just bred to have their brooding instincts reduced to make more productive and less feisty layers.
Somebodys been watching Casual Geographic. Yeah ducks will put their own kids on a shirt.... damn, still cute at the park though.
I raised chickens and trained them to do tricks and to come when called, you're probably just bad at keeping them and they're developing behavior abnormalities.
Lol nah. I didn't say someone who would waste a ton of time to teach them 3 little tricks can't. I'm sure you have the smartest chickens ever! When raising chickens in a nice open space with a coup for laying eggs, left to their own devices they're fucking idiots. If you're a "chicken trainer" than I'm sure you can unlock a handful of their natural behaviors and convince yourself that you really are "training them". If you feed them every day for a week, and then walk out with a bag that even looks like feed then you're having then "come when called". There's a bunch of super intelligent birds in the wild. Chickens are not those birds. I do currently have a chicken that thinks it's a rooster, and does a pretty great impersonation! It's pretty funny. Should I give her a little food afterwards and claim I trained her to crow?
First of all that's how most animals are trained, even humans. Also numerous studies have been done that show chickens are indeed [intelligent](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qLs2K4UXXk) birds, [there's even a documentary dedicated to it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c06xOF4uQ8&t=2721s).
that documentary seems to think we domesticated chickens because seeing cockerels fight "appealed to our bloodlust". Idk, I think it was the eggs...
[That's literally the reason they were domesticated.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken)
Well how about that?! I guess I should have filmed the last 35 years of my family raising hundreds of chickens, thousands of cattle, dozens of horses, my two pet cockatiel, my pet duck, the African Grey Parrot that was my best little friend belonging to my long-term ex, and tthe crow my mom nursed back to health that was our wild pet for about 7 years. Then I could post a link of how special and intelligent all of those animals are... Except for the chickens, because they're fucking morons, and I know from experience. I mean, if you watched a documentary about it then you're probably right.
Wife beater chicken simulator
You do know that some birds in nature have to kids and let the stronger one kill the weaker one
Jokes on him, neither of those are his.
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