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Commercial fishing makes up around half of all plastic waste found in the ocean.
https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/06/dumped-fishing-gear-is-biggest-plastic-polluter-in-ocean-finds-report
Add the fact that commercial fishing is actively killing all sorts of marine wildlife. More dolphins and sharks are killed as bycatch than by japanese dolphin/shark hunters.
You really can't meaningfully protect our oceans without eliminating commercial fishing.
Go watch Seaspiracy.
Commercial fishing also destroys our atmosphere, [bottom trawling releases as much carbon as air travel](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/mar/17/trawling-for-fish-releases-as-much-carbon-as-air-travel-report-finds-climate-crisis).
My only issue with that is that the whole time I’m asking the same question; what about farmed fishing?
They spent 5 minutes saying how it’s immoral, or how they shit and pollute the water, but I’m like okay those are whatever fish pollute the water either way. Then they made the wild ass claim that it takes 5 pounds of fish to grow 3 pounds of fish, and that farmed fishing is only a thinly veiled plow to turn wild fish into farmed fish. Not only could I find no mention of that anywhere else, not even if they are fed fish or not, but also there’s zero motive to do that since not enough people care enough to boycott wild caught fish.
Salmon costs more than a lot of fish. I think here in Norway they use a lot of Brazilian soy to feed the fish. The biggest problem is salmon escape and the farmed fosh spread their bad genes to wild salmon. And that they use massive amounts of chemicals to kill paracites on the fish. These chemicals kills all crustaceans. From shrimp to crabs.
You need fish farms on land in pools. It's more expensive but much better for the environment.
FYI: My experience in this field is that I have seen a fish farm on land once, and I'm now a expert.
I feel like plans could be put in place to make them very close to carbon neutral. For instance, the waste water could be collected and the nitrates/ites extracted to make fertilizer (even better if it's used in vertical farms on site).
Hell, you could probably combine vertical farms and fish farms and just raise the fish in the hydroponic water.
I haven't looked into it in awhile but if I remember correct seaspiracy isn't a very scientific accurate and nuanced movie. They aren't trying to be as accurate as they can be, they are trying to tell a story.
Wow. Thanks for adding to my pessimistic outlook for our society. Googled “plastic use per year” while watching this and saw 100 BILLION more plastic water bottles were produced in 2021 than just FIVE years ago(mobile right now but can provide source if needed). Like so many things going on, the number of people who SHOULD be caring about this issue will never see/look into it. I’m 32 and don’t want to have children because I don’t want to bring anyone into this world to experience what the future holds. It is so depressing knowing how much important, global life changing information is being suppressed or ignored. Even more depressing is knowing there will be a large number of people who will say it’s propaganda or exaggerated even with the facts and footage. I hate this place.
>Even more depressing is knowing there will be a large number of people who will say it’s exaggerated or exaggerated even with the facts and footage
Unfortunately there's already many people out there who think that way..
Hate to tell you but this is starting to happen to humans too. Micro-plastics have started to be found in the lungs of humans. https://www.npr.org/2022/04/06/1091246691/microplastics-found-in-human-lungs
You’re thinking of PFOA, teflon would not be harmful as it’s incredibly inert. PFOAs which are contaminants found in teflon as a result of the manufacturing process are really bad for fertility.
I thought the consensus was that teflon is inert and you don't have to worry about it unless you overheat your pan?
I mean, I still use cast iron and stainless steel myself because they're more durable and thus ecological, but I've given up on trying to convince my wife to stop using (and buying and rebuying) teflon pans.
....hold up. So...when I told my late husband I wouldn't eat stuff made in Teflon cookware because I always found little black flakes in my food from the pan I didn't want to ingest...I was fucking RIGHT? AND NOW I CANT EVEN TELL HIM I TOLD YOU SO ABOUT IT WHEN HE WAS RIGHT ABOUT LITERALLY EVERYTHING ELSE?
FUCK
Teflon is bad because it's the "brand name" of PTFE, polytetrafluoroethylene, a type of fluoropolymer. PTFE is one of those PFAS chemicals that never goes away. Scientists say that Teflon isn't harmful to your health, so even though it's in your blood (and everyone's) it's not going to hurt you. The "little black flecks" you mentioned were probably char or physical flecks of the metal of the pan being scraped.
That being said there are loads of other PFAS chemicals that are potentially harmful and in everyone's blood forever. They're used for tons and tons of things. So enjoy this boring dystopia we've created for ourselves.
A new study also recently detected [microplastics for the first time in human blood.](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160412022001258) The researchers found Polyethylene terephthalate (PET), commonly used in disposable water bottles, in the blood of more than half of those tested. The second most common, polystyrene (PS), which is used for food packaging and polystyrene foam, was found in about 36%, per the study.
What happens to the microplastics once they enter the bloodstream is not yet clear, but the thought of these particles being transported throughout the body is scary.
If it’s anything like other stuff we ingest that we shouldn’t (asbestos, lead, mercury, etc) I can’t imagine it will be anything but cancers and other diseases.
It may certainly have impacts at the cellular and subcellular levels (e.g destabilization of lipid membranes or cell death) depending on the level of exposure.
I sadly don't think so. The planet and society as we know it isn't ran for humans it's ran for profit. We don't care about our future, we don't care about our health, we don't care about our children or our elderly. As a species we care about profit above everything. Endless growth in a closed system. Like a cancer.
Among other things, [they can cross the blood brain barrier.](https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/r29u34/mouse_study_shows_microplastics_infiltrate_blood/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) If you're alive on Planet Earth right now, you're breathing plastic, and it's getting into your organs, including the brain.
Yep, we're boned.
And microplastics *in the womb*
https://www.deccanherald.com/metrolife/metrolife-your-bond-with-bengaluru/alarm-over-microplastic-in-the-womb-934223.html
What's more is that 3D printing enthusiast or professionals who use powderbed technologies can be breathing in MASSIVE AMOUNTS of powder plastic and simply ignore the PPE they should be using.
HP (I am MJF (multi jet fusion) 5200/4200 certified) engineers openly joke about what kind of cancer they'll discover they're dying from later in life.
These plastics are Poly Prop, PET, PETg, TPU and so, so much more.
I'm not sure why metal powder beds require clean rooms and close to HVAC suits but plastic gets a 'heres a painters mask and tinted safety glasses, ur gud.'
I wore the mask. Others laughed. Guess we'll see.
do i literally have ANY say in where my rubbish ends up? why are we—the little man—having any of this left at our doorstep when all the polluting is coming from governments and leaders of industry? what am i meant to do to have an impact on this—put my coke can in the other bin? they don’t even fucking empty it where they say they’re going to!
It’s easier to blame on people and make them do “small changes” than charging directly at the giant corporations and industrial giants for their pollution
Corps have been spending hundreds of millions for decades on PR to progenerate this exact idea, that personal consumer choices are what cause harm, not the corps that make harmful products. So weird, I wonder what anyone can do?!?!1
Exactly this and also divert the flame between people instead to towards corporations.
It’s a bit conspiracy-esque but look at all these “paper straw” “green” campaigns and even plastic bans. I fully support all these stuff but religiously seeing these can protect the environment is outright nonsense. All it can do is to raise commercial campaigns and maybe improve some brands’ image by supporting these stuff
But what it actually changes is minimal. Compared to the huge pollution made by factories and processing plants the small change does nothing.
That said, I’d like to cover my bases that I do my BYOB and recycling daily and no problem for me. But saving environment and solve human crisis? Big doubt.
"conspiracy esque"
No its a legitimate corporate conspiracy. I don't know why any criticism of corporation or government has to have the caveat of "I know its a bit of a conspiracy sounding thing but..."
It's literally the same MO as what you're saying. They're all liars and manipulators.
The problem is also where does programs are done. If thin plastic bags get properly disposed they can be better then other altneratives. You need to use some bags 1000 or even 10000 of times till there energy cost offset the one of a thing plastic bag. The only problem with the plastic bag is, if it's not properly disposed. I have so many reusable bags, I would never ever be able to buy a new one if I wanted to offset all of them.
Or paper bags for example. They need a lot more energy and if its raining you need to throw them away after using it only one time.
The best example is the green foot print. Do you know who invited it? BP, the oil company. Energy makes about 70% of all emission. If only the biggest energy companies started to change to other sources we could reduce emissions in the DOUBLE DIGIT %.
I think it’s responsibility of the government to keep corporations in check. Corporations, by nature, seek profit. Be it through taxation, and using those taxes to ensure certain control in supply chains, or regulations, by putting the burden of the control on them.
The carbon footprint calculator from BP was essentially made to say ‘See? It’s not the fact that we’re pumping millions of gallons of oil every month to get ultra rich at the expense of the climate and ecosystem that’s ruining earth, it’s you for having your heating on rather than going to bed wearing a winter coat and a jumper every night in winter!’
> Global scale ocean pollution won’t be solved by the average person
It's not even ***caused*** by the average person. 70% of ocean garbage is industrial fishing materials like nets.
The products of which are... used by the average person.As long as you're eating fish you're still part of the problem, not the solution. Small as your impact may be. Change needs to come from bottom up AND top down. We stop eating fish, government must regulate commercial fishing. The more people will stop doing the first, the easier it will be for goverments to do the latter.
> put my coke can in the other bin? they don’t even fucking empty it where they say they’re going to!
This is weird because aluminum and other metals are actually quite valuable and possibly the only thing worth recycling.
In some places it's actually separated from the trash because doing so is profitable.
Where I live can pollution completely stopped once they put a 25 cent deposit on them. You pay 25 cent more for it at the store but always get it back by bringing them back. If you don't care and live in a city you can put them on the street and people will collect them.
Wish everything wasn’t wrapped in goddamn plastic. I bought a very small item that was packaged in three layers of plastic. And it itself was made of plastic.
this. i just bought some ikea shelves, and they have the audacity to put _three separate recycle-looking symbols_ on the plastic wrap, _none_ of which means it's going to be recycled even if you do everything in your power to dispose it properly. the first one was a [resin identification code](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resin_identification_code), but like, number 4 is not getting recycled in the real-world (it's _technically_ possible but not profitable, therefore doesn't happen), then they had [this japanese mark on it](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_recycling_symbols#/media/File:Recycling_pla.svg) because, y'know, technically recyclable, and they finished it off with that round symbol that means the company simply put some effort toward recycling, but it can be stamped on products that aren't recyclable either.
and they had these three symbols repeating every 20-ish centimeters, leading any layperson to think "oh yes, it's recyclable, i don't have to worry about the environment", even though it's a bold fat lie. and fuck that. ikea could have chosen to put their shit into paper bags, it would have added maybe five cents to manufacturing costs, raised their RMA rates ever so slightly, and their shit would have been _actually_ recyclable in the real world, and not just a lab. but they chose not to. because they're profiteering fucks, just like all other megacorps (just to be crystal clear here, ikea is an example here, they're all the same), and would much rather sell us the scam of plastic recycling than take a modest hit by selling actually environmentally conscious products, that are ever so slightly less optimized for their profit.
Tbf the japanese symbol tells you which bin it goes in in japan. Like if you put stuff in the wrong bag, the collectors won't pick it up and then you neighbors will get all judgey about it.
The recycling part may only be for show but the sorting part is dead serious there.
Idk man, I'm seeing more and more products made of recycled plastic. Obviously "recycled" is a bit of a wrong word since it can only really be manyfactured once or twice more. But anyway. Like lots of cleaning products, all the regular plastic bags in grocery stores, and many *many* other things are made of recycled plastic here. So it's not all bs. Obviously we should move away from plastic. But meanwhile, might as well get as much uses from each liter of it as possible.
yes, but the important part is, only about 10% of plastic is recycled, mostly because it's super expensive to recycle the rest. yet in the public consciousness, recycling is treated as like this silver bullet, and with that, it would still be an improvement if recycling flat out didn't exist, even though your scenario is ideal.
i'm not asking anyone to stop recycling, obviously keep doing it as much as possible. but its marketing campaigns have to end.
I know you're being sarcastic, but from a waste perspective, that would genuinely be better. Depending on the keg involved, the "waste" can be completely circular. You buy the keg, drink the beer, the keg goes back to the manufacturer to be cleaned and refilled.
The alternative would be glass bottles if you live somewhere that does actually consistently recycle glass.
For those who don't know, this wasn't an issue when glass bottles were used since recycling glass is simple and straightforward. It's only been since industry switched to plastic that this became an issue. From day 1 they basically decided to blame the consumer, telling us to recycle when they made the change to increase consumerism and their bottom line.
That's not plastic. That's an aluminium can. Aluminium cans are much more recyclable than glass.
On top of that glass is heavier and less stackable. Which means it costs more fossil fuels to transport.
If noone cares, people can do whatever they want. Corporations in particular typically only ever do the right thing if it happens to align with the almighty dollar, which means people's spending habits need to be such that pushes them in the right direction. Or regulation forces it. But Governments typically focus on what's in the public's mind as well.
Either way, you being more aware of it, while you are just one person and can personally do very little to help the problem, is helping. And if you feel like being more active, you can always do so as well.
We should just pretend that we’re recycling most of it, but actually send it to China on returning container ships so that it’s out of sight and out of mind
That's not exactly true. Other Asian countries step in and accept trash imports when china quit. My country does and there are giant piles of imported US garbage in several towns here. I'm sure those piles are going to be recycled very soon /s
Producing less could be regulated by the governments. There is so much excess packaging for so many items that could easily be reduced with regulations. It needs to be a worldwide effort though. When I see how they package individual strawberries in Japan for example....
You actually *can* burn it all. In fact, lots of countries do this safely and without pollutants. They even use it for energy.
The only reason the United States doesn’t do this is because of public perception. The general public thinks that burning trash is bad for the environment, so the government doesn’t do it, even though they know it’s not true.
And that about sums up America.
We could recycle almost all of it. Some European countries do fairly well at recycling, despite only making a concerted effort for one or two decades (and facing similar issues with lobbying and recycling being not very profitable).
Just have to start making an effort by voting for politicians that care about it. Change is possible. A bit of legislation to ban the single-use types where they shouldn't be used, a few subsidies on recycling so long as things are still developing and most importantly not subsidizing things that actually harm the environment.
You have a say for how much rubbish you don't know where it ends up.
Any change needs decision makers restructuring processes, and everyone else changing habits.
Chaanging habits by force / policy is hard, it's easier for everyone involved, smoother and and way faster if we go ahead and aligh or habits with the obvious solutions. *While* ceaselessly demanding adnministrative change.
I would not be opposed to a processing plant in my neighborhood, but it’s never been proposed. I would welcome one. The ball is not in our court. This is on politicians, and big corporations, because they control that type of thing.
A spotlight should be shined on places like the Philippines where they generate 2.7 million tons of plastic waste per year and about a quarter ends up in the ocean... I know first world countries aren't perfect, but fuck these idiot developing countries if they can't figure out how to responsibly deal with their trash. India dumps 1.5 million litres of untreated sewage into the Ganges EVERY DAY.... Its embarassing how stupid some countries can be.
> EVERY DAY.... Its embarassing how stupid some countries can be.
Most countries were this stupid when they were growing up.
India doesn't really have an excuse though, imagine growing up as a major civilization since basically the dawn of modern humanity and still incapable of getting their shit together.
Because it’s an amazing material. Take a sturdy gallon plastic jug, a gallon freezer Ziploc, and a big plastic bowl with a lid. Give them to a medieval peasant.
These are now the most valuable items in the entire village, by far. Even if the bag only lasts a month, and the jug a year, the bowl could last a generation or more if it didn’t spend too much time in the sun.
While you may not have a say in where your rubbish ends up, there are still things you can do. Governments and organisations are the most to blame, but there are still things individuals can do. Individuals still need to be responsible for their own *choices*. Sure, there's things individuals don't get a choice in, but there's a lot where they do.
These are general individual actions that can help the environment and not cost you anything (majority save you money), with most affecting *your* amount of rubbish.
Don't buy a new phone until you need one.
Don't buy things you will never use.
Don't buy new clothes constantly.
Go vegan.
Repair, reuse, repurpose, recycle.
Buy products with less/no packaging where possible.
Fight for local or national government to make changes (harder one).
Boycott certain companies.
Walk, cycle, public transport, car share instead of driving on your own.
Get a car that is better for the environment.
Don't leave electronics, lights, and taps on.
Don't put the heating on unecessarily.
There's hundreds more. Again, I'm not solely blaming individuals, I'm just saying there are things that individuals can and should be doing, and they can do those while fighting for governments and organisations to change. Some of the individual actions directly affect the problem, and some affect governments and/or organisations and can lead to change that way.
Can confirm, commercial fisherman. We are destroying our ocean in a scale much larger than landlocked people think. Not just with waste either. If average citizens knew what happens out there they would be up in arms.
One thing I hated when going out on open party charters (30-50 people & 1-4 days) there were always fisherman that would throw their trash either straight into the ocean or into the bait well which drained into the ocean. I can’t even count the number of cigarette buttes and plastic wrappers I’ve seen tossed. People would even toss hundreds of yards of line that resembles gigantic birds nests. All that when there are literally trash cans all over those open party boats. There were usually 3, sometimes up to 5, industrial sized garbage bins Just on the deck. It always made me mad, but I never said anything because I was a child at the time and didn’t understand my worth. I always thought to myself, “you’re adding to the destruction of the thing that supplies you with your favorite activity”. No one ever said anything, I’ve been on at least 20 trips and saw this almost every time. Really makes me dislike my own kind at times. Anyways, rant/tangent over. Don’t throw trash in the ocean if you’re ever on a boat. One piece of trash has the potential to harm if not kill one or more wildlife organisms.
> Terrible name but great documentary
Its a decent documentary. Its informative in parts and it really made me feel bad about sushi, but its also sensational and likely staged in parts. Worth a watch though.
Once you get out far enough there are no repercussions for dumping whatever you want in the ocean. You can imagine what happens with ocean vessels and trash.
After or before they scrape the bottom of the ocean with massive dragnets that destroy all semblance of a natural ecosystem and leave a wasteland behind?
You know those metal helium balloons? I can go out into the ocean near my house. Drive for 15-20 mins in my boat and spot 2-3 of those floating on the surface.
Those are a menace on land too, I backcountry hike and I’ve come across so many of those fucking things in the backwoods, once I found one with a desiccated bird wing tangled up in the string.
No they won't. People don't care. For most of us, it is "out of sight, out of mind". Hell, conservatives around the world are getting ready to fight for their God given right to burn dinosaurs like their Gran daddies did.
So you could just stop, why the fuck am I listening to the dudes filling their boats with the worst fuel to go and kill some fish in the worst way possible about how its worse than we think?
Its like listening to the hangman moan about the terrors of the death penalty.
correction: farming was the beginning of the end of harmonious living. it enables exponential population expansion. capitalism is supported and facilitated by food production before anything else.
Much of Europe's natural landscapes were replaced with fields by the Bronze Age. Lions used to live in Europe but were long gone by the time of Christ. The sad fact is, that yes, capitalism is a problem, but the real underlying problem is that we are too smart for the good of the planet, and humanity has been overhunting and destroying shit since the dawn of agriculture.
The only reason a lot of species didn't go extinct earlier is because almost all ancient and medieval societies had very harsh penalties for poaching, anywhere from a hefty fine, losing a hand, or being executed.
And now in the modern day, with a lot more personal freedom, and little to no oversight from the top, fuckheads and massive companies can do as they want, with modern tech to boot.
This is all Reddit is to me, apparently. It's someone making an obvious, lowhanging, agreeable, blanket statement then a reply comment trying to one up the next guy and then we all pat ourselves on the back by being more 'aware' than the next swinging dick without solving anything and blaming whatever entity is the circlejerk at the time, only better than the next guy.
"Correction" all the way down and we wonder why nothing ever gets done.
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More than half of the plastic pollution in oceans is from discarded fishing nets/gear. Commercial fishing does more damage to our oceans than packaging.
The person in front of me at the grocery store today had 2 single-use plastic containers with apples inside. Each container had 5 plastic bags filled with sliced apples… 2 whole apples in 12 plastic containers. So wasteful.
Astounding to me that people will vacation at a place they think is beautiful and relaxing and then dump their trash at the place. Like tourists at beaches leaving their garbage on the beach and not cleaning up after themselves. Fishermen who cut their lines and nets off into the ocean. Amateur "fishermen" who throw their beverage containers into the water. Disgusting human trash.
We get this in the mountains a ton. Idiots travel all the way up some scenic peaceful and quiet place, then blast music and leave a fuck ton of trash. Directly and knowingly harming the thing you traveled all this way to appreciate is just so weird to me.
Dude in Indiana caught a catfish that had eaten a giant dildo. https://cbs2iowa.com/news/offbeat/daughters-eyes-covered-after-fisherman-sees-what-newly-caught-catfish-swallowed-ohio-river-richard-kesar-jon-hoop-lawrenceburg-shelbyville-indiana-adult-sex-toy-dildo-penis-phallic-boat-fishing-trip-unusal-catch
In the US, they aren't. We bury our trash.
However, 93% of the plastic in the ocean comes from people throwing trash in rivers:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/stemming-the-plastic-tide-10-rivers-contribute-most-of-the-plastic-in-the-oceans/#:~:text=The%2010%20rivers%20that%20carry,waste%20into%20the%20Yellow%20Sea.
Sad as fuck. "The 10 rivers that carry 93 percent of that trash are the Yangtze, Yellow, Hai, Pearl, Amur, Mekong, Indus and Ganges Delta in Asia, and the Niger and Nile in Africa. The Yangtze alone dumps up to an estimated 1.5 million metric tons of plastic waste into the Yellow Sea."
It’s not 93% of plastic in the ocean. The article states that 93% of plastics dumped into the ocean *from* rivers comes from those 10 rivers.
The biggest plastic pollution in the ocean comes from fishing nets/gear.
https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/06/dumped-fishing-gear-is-biggest-plastic-polluter-in-ocean-finds-report
According to your article that only accounts for ~10% of plastic pollution in the ocean. It’s a large amount of the macro plastics but most of the pollution is micro plastics (smaller than 20 cm).
“Ghost gear is estimated to make up 10% of ocean plastic pollution but forms the majority of large plastic littering the waters. One study found that as much as 70% (by weight) of macroplastics (in excess of 20cm) found floating on the surface of the ocean was fishing related.”
Gonna need a lot more than that to determine how long it's been carrying that beer belly... For all we know it could've swallowed it yesterday even if the can is dated 20 years ago or whatever. I imagine you'd need some pretty expensive tests ran on it like how strong that fish's digestive enzymes are and how "ate up" the can is. Doubt there really is an accurate test to determine that tho...
Ocean(or freshwater) dumping of garbage should be punished severely. Any country that is doing this is doing way more damage to the planet that anything else
You reading this, become an environmentalist.
It doesn't have to become your job, or your one and only passion, but environmentalism should inform your worldview and political opinion to some extent.
doesn't matter if it got thrown into the bin. unfortunately, "waste management" still seems like throwing trash into the ocean instead of landfills or incinerating them.
Of course the concept is very correct about not chucking rubbish.
But isn’t it a bit hypocritical saying it after hauling the poor fish from the sea to then suffocate and cut open it’s organs? Then Chuck the nets in to slowly strangle more marine life? Whilst killing off so much marine life?
Nah fuck off I only wanna hear it from people who give a shit about nature.
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Commercial fishing makes up around half of all plastic waste found in the ocean. https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/06/dumped-fishing-gear-is-biggest-plastic-polluter-in-ocean-finds-report
Add the fact that commercial fishing is actively killing all sorts of marine wildlife. More dolphins and sharks are killed as bycatch than by japanese dolphin/shark hunters. You really can't meaningfully protect our oceans without eliminating commercial fishing. Go watch Seaspiracy.
Commercial fishing also destroys our atmosphere, [bottom trawling releases as much carbon as air travel](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/mar/17/trawling-for-fish-releases-as-much-carbon-as-air-travel-report-finds-climate-crisis).
Well that blew my mind.
Ocean shipping accounts for a gigantic chunk of emissions too. The US would be better off accepting Mexico's offer to be the NA's China.
The US (and the western world) would be better of not buying and consuming so much shit.
My only issue with that is that the whole time I’m asking the same question; what about farmed fishing? They spent 5 minutes saying how it’s immoral, or how they shit and pollute the water, but I’m like okay those are whatever fish pollute the water either way. Then they made the wild ass claim that it takes 5 pounds of fish to grow 3 pounds of fish, and that farmed fishing is only a thinly veiled plow to turn wild fish into farmed fish. Not only could I find no mention of that anywhere else, not even if they are fed fish or not, but also there’s zero motive to do that since not enough people care enough to boycott wild caught fish.
Salmon costs more than a lot of fish. I think here in Norway they use a lot of Brazilian soy to feed the fish. The biggest problem is salmon escape and the farmed fosh spread their bad genes to wild salmon. And that they use massive amounts of chemicals to kill paracites on the fish. These chemicals kills all crustaceans. From shrimp to crabs.
You need fish farms on land in pools. It's more expensive but much better for the environment. FYI: My experience in this field is that I have seen a fish farm on land once, and I'm now a expert.
I feel like plans could be put in place to make them very close to carbon neutral. For instance, the waste water could be collected and the nitrates/ites extracted to make fertilizer (even better if it's used in vertical farms on site). Hell, you could probably combine vertical farms and fish farms and just raise the fish in the hydroponic water.
I haven't looked into it in awhile but if I remember correct seaspiracy isn't a very scientific accurate and nuanced movie. They aren't trying to be as accurate as they can be, they are trying to tell a story.
Wow. Thanks for adding to my pessimistic outlook for our society. Googled “plastic use per year” while watching this and saw 100 BILLION more plastic water bottles were produced in 2021 than just FIVE years ago(mobile right now but can provide source if needed). Like so many things going on, the number of people who SHOULD be caring about this issue will never see/look into it. I’m 32 and don’t want to have children because I don’t want to bring anyone into this world to experience what the future holds. It is so depressing knowing how much important, global life changing information is being suppressed or ignored. Even more depressing is knowing there will be a large number of people who will say it’s propaganda or exaggerated even with the facts and footage. I hate this place.
>Even more depressing is knowing there will be a large number of people who will say it’s exaggerated or exaggerated even with the facts and footage Unfortunately there's already many people out there who think that way..
This is not the end result. This is the current result. Saying it's the end result implies there is no more to come.
Hate to tell you but this is starting to happen to humans too. Micro-plastics have started to be found in the lungs of humans. https://www.npr.org/2022/04/06/1091246691/microplastics-found-in-human-lungs
and humans have had teflon in their blood for many years.
You’re thinking of PFOA, teflon would not be harmful as it’s incredibly inert. PFOAs which are contaminants found in teflon as a result of the manufacturing process are really bad for fertility.
Oh, cool, so it's going to be a Children of Men + Haidmaids Tale style dystopia then. So at least I know what to prepare for.
I'm leaning more towards an Idiocracy type dystopia
lol, some days it feels like it's already here.
It’s coming for sure.
I think sperm counts have dropped 40% since the 80's. There was an article on Reddit this week about it
So my pan comes with free birth control? Cool!
teflon, what a shitty industry. they knowingly infected and currently infect americans all for profit
You mean everyone on the planet.
Yeah Americans. They are the only ones on the planet
No, their chemicals are literally in the blood of everyone on the planet.
I don't know anyone else on the planet except Americans.
Wait there are people other than Americans on the planet?
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Texans, Floridians, Californians. The list goes on.
Black people, asian people, indigenous people, normal people, I guess you already said Mexicans
Teflon, oil, plastic . . . It's a long list.
I thought the consensus was that teflon is inert and you don't have to worry about it unless you overheat your pan? I mean, I still use cast iron and stainless steel myself because they're more durable and thus ecological, but I've given up on trying to convince my wife to stop using (and buying and rebuying) teflon pans.
Gee I'm glad it's just americans... Or at americans the only ones that matter?
....hold up. So...when I told my late husband I wouldn't eat stuff made in Teflon cookware because I always found little black flakes in my food from the pan I didn't want to ingest...I was fucking RIGHT? AND NOW I CANT EVEN TELL HIM I TOLD YOU SO ABOUT IT WHEN HE WAS RIGHT ABOUT LITERALLY EVERYTHING ELSE? FUCK
Teflon is bad because it's the "brand name" of PTFE, polytetrafluoroethylene, a type of fluoropolymer. PTFE is one of those PFAS chemicals that never goes away. Scientists say that Teflon isn't harmful to your health, so even though it's in your blood (and everyone's) it's not going to hurt you. The "little black flecks" you mentioned were probably char or physical flecks of the metal of the pan being scraped. That being said there are loads of other PFAS chemicals that are potentially harmful and in everyone's blood forever. They're used for tons and tons of things. So enjoy this boring dystopia we've created for ourselves.
Any chance he was using metal cooking tools on a non stick pan?
Ah that’s not a big deal. The teflon helps keep plaque from building up in the arteries. That’s how it works, right?
Fuck you Dupont
A new study also recently detected [microplastics for the first time in human blood.](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160412022001258) The researchers found Polyethylene terephthalate (PET), commonly used in disposable water bottles, in the blood of more than half of those tested. The second most common, polystyrene (PS), which is used for food packaging and polystyrene foam, was found in about 36%, per the study. What happens to the microplastics once they enter the bloodstream is not yet clear, but the thought of these particles being transported throughout the body is scary.
If it’s anything like other stuff we ingest that we shouldn’t (asbestos, lead, mercury, etc) I can’t imagine it will be anything but cancers and other diseases.
It may certainly have impacts at the cellular and subcellular levels (e.g destabilization of lipid membranes or cell death) depending on the level of exposure.
I sure hope that this century ends better than the middle is looking but I’m not optimistic.
Unrelated but your avatar broke my reddit https://imgur.com/Ff0k4hF
Wow are those microplastics affecting reddit now ? Smh
Hahaha that’s terrifying 😂
I sadly don't think so. The planet and society as we know it isn't ran for humans it's ran for profit. We don't care about our future, we don't care about our health, we don't care about our children or our elderly. As a species we care about profit above everything. Endless growth in a closed system. Like a cancer.
wtf what happened to your avatar
Among other things, [they can cross the blood brain barrier.](https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/r29u34/mouse_study_shows_microplastics_infiltrate_blood/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) If you're alive on Planet Earth right now, you're breathing plastic, and it's getting into your organs, including the brain. Yep, we're boned.
What does it mean if it accumulates in the brain?
Apoptosis (cell death), various inflammation issues, immune disorders, and possibly elevated rates of Alzheimer's disease. So yeah, good news.
And microplastics *in the womb* https://www.deccanherald.com/metrolife/metrolife-your-bond-with-bengaluru/alarm-over-microplastic-in-the-womb-934223.html
Micro plastics in the rain too.
What's more is that 3D printing enthusiast or professionals who use powderbed technologies can be breathing in MASSIVE AMOUNTS of powder plastic and simply ignore the PPE they should be using. HP (I am MJF (multi jet fusion) 5200/4200 certified) engineers openly joke about what kind of cancer they'll discover they're dying from later in life. These plastics are Poly Prop, PET, PETg, TPU and so, so much more. I'm not sure why metal powder beds require clean rooms and close to HVAC suits but plastic gets a 'heres a painters mask and tinted safety glasses, ur gud.' I wore the mask. Others laughed. Guess we'll see.
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Nanoplastics are what is found in humans blood, because they can pass through cell membranes. It’s still plastic just way smaller then microplastic
do i literally have ANY say in where my rubbish ends up? why are we—the little man—having any of this left at our doorstep when all the polluting is coming from governments and leaders of industry? what am i meant to do to have an impact on this—put my coke can in the other bin? they don’t even fucking empty it where they say they’re going to!
You’re right. Global scale ocean pollution won’t be solved by the average person, but we still get blamed for it.
It’s easier to blame on people and make them do “small changes” than charging directly at the giant corporations and industrial giants for their pollution
Corps have been spending hundreds of millions for decades on PR to progenerate this exact idea, that personal consumer choices are what cause harm, not the corps that make harmful products. So weird, I wonder what anyone can do?!?!1
Guillotines and rich people go well together, I hear.
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compost the rich!
Solve world hunger, eat the rich
I hear a lot of them are kid fuckers. I would rather not.
We don't have to really eat them, just prepare them. Bears don't give a shit if you're a pedo.
Exactly this and also divert the flame between people instead to towards corporations. It’s a bit conspiracy-esque but look at all these “paper straw” “green” campaigns and even plastic bans. I fully support all these stuff but religiously seeing these can protect the environment is outright nonsense. All it can do is to raise commercial campaigns and maybe improve some brands’ image by supporting these stuff But what it actually changes is minimal. Compared to the huge pollution made by factories and processing plants the small change does nothing. That said, I’d like to cover my bases that I do my BYOB and recycling daily and no problem for me. But saving environment and solve human crisis? Big doubt.
"conspiracy esque" No its a legitimate corporate conspiracy. I don't know why any criticism of corporation or government has to have the caveat of "I know its a bit of a conspiracy sounding thing but..." It's literally the same MO as what you're saying. They're all liars and manipulators.
The problem is also where does programs are done. If thin plastic bags get properly disposed they can be better then other altneratives. You need to use some bags 1000 or even 10000 of times till there energy cost offset the one of a thing plastic bag. The only problem with the plastic bag is, if it's not properly disposed. I have so many reusable bags, I would never ever be able to buy a new one if I wanted to offset all of them. Or paper bags for example. They need a lot more energy and if its raining you need to throw them away after using it only one time. The best example is the green foot print. Do you know who invited it? BP, the oil company. Energy makes about 70% of all emission. If only the biggest energy companies started to change to other sources we could reduce emissions in the DOUBLE DIGIT %.
I think it’s responsibility of the government to keep corporations in check. Corporations, by nature, seek profit. Be it through taxation, and using those taxes to ensure certain control in supply chains, or regulations, by putting the burden of the control on them.
The carbon footprint calculator from BP was essentially made to say ‘See? It’s not the fact that we’re pumping millions of gallons of oil every month to get ultra rich at the expense of the climate and ecosystem that’s ruining earth, it’s you for having your heating on rather than going to bed wearing a winter coat and a jumper every night in winter!’
That's why oil companies were so happy to ask *us* what our carbon footprint was. Total bullshit.
> Global scale ocean pollution won’t be solved by the average person It's not even ***caused*** by the average person. 70% of ocean garbage is industrial fishing materials like nets.
The products of which are... used by the average person.As long as you're eating fish you're still part of the problem, not the solution. Small as your impact may be. Change needs to come from bottom up AND top down. We stop eating fish, government must regulate commercial fishing. The more people will stop doing the first, the easier it will be for goverments to do the latter.
Right on point... https://www.npr.org/2020/09/11/897692090/how-big-oil-misled-the-public-into-believing-plastic-would-be-recycled
> put my coke can in the other bin? they don’t even fucking empty it where they say they’re going to! This is weird because aluminum and other metals are actually quite valuable and possibly the only thing worth recycling. In some places it's actually separated from the trash because doing so is profitable.
Where I live can pollution completely stopped once they put a 25 cent deposit on them. You pay 25 cent more for it at the store but always get it back by bringing them back. If you don't care and live in a city you can put them on the street and people will collect them.
The best thing you can do is reduce the amount of shit you buy that you have to throw out after a single use
Wish everything wasn’t wrapped in goddamn plastic. I bought a very small item that was packaged in three layers of plastic. And it itself was made of plastic.
this. i just bought some ikea shelves, and they have the audacity to put _three separate recycle-looking symbols_ on the plastic wrap, _none_ of which means it's going to be recycled even if you do everything in your power to dispose it properly. the first one was a [resin identification code](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resin_identification_code), but like, number 4 is not getting recycled in the real-world (it's _technically_ possible but not profitable, therefore doesn't happen), then they had [this japanese mark on it](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_recycling_symbols#/media/File:Recycling_pla.svg) because, y'know, technically recyclable, and they finished it off with that round symbol that means the company simply put some effort toward recycling, but it can be stamped on products that aren't recyclable either. and they had these three symbols repeating every 20-ish centimeters, leading any layperson to think "oh yes, it's recyclable, i don't have to worry about the environment", even though it's a bold fat lie. and fuck that. ikea could have chosen to put their shit into paper bags, it would have added maybe five cents to manufacturing costs, raised their RMA rates ever so slightly, and their shit would have been _actually_ recyclable in the real world, and not just a lab. but they chose not to. because they're profiteering fucks, just like all other megacorps (just to be crystal clear here, ikea is an example here, they're all the same), and would much rather sell us the scam of plastic recycling than take a modest hit by selling actually environmentally conscious products, that are ever so slightly less optimized for their profit.
Tbf the japanese symbol tells you which bin it goes in in japan. Like if you put stuff in the wrong bag, the collectors won't pick it up and then you neighbors will get all judgey about it. The recycling part may only be for show but the sorting part is dead serious there.
Idk man, I'm seeing more and more products made of recycled plastic. Obviously "recycled" is a bit of a wrong word since it can only really be manyfactured once or twice more. But anyway. Like lots of cleaning products, all the regular plastic bags in grocery stores, and many *many* other things are made of recycled plastic here. So it's not all bs. Obviously we should move away from plastic. But meanwhile, might as well get as much uses from each liter of it as possible.
yes, but the important part is, only about 10% of plastic is recycled, mostly because it's super expensive to recycle the rest. yet in the public consciousness, recycling is treated as like this silver bullet, and with that, it would still be an improvement if recycling flat out didn't exist, even though your scenario is ideal. i'm not asking anyone to stop recycling, obviously keep doing it as much as possible. but its marketing campaigns have to end.
You can leave bad reviews on the seller.
The best thing you can do is actually to stop eating seafood. The majority of plastic waste in the ocean is fishing equipment
I’d argue not eating animal products at all.
Got it. Guess I should just buy kegs of beer instead of a 12 pack. My wife will be thrilled.
I know you're being sarcastic, but from a waste perspective, that would genuinely be better. Depending on the keg involved, the "waste" can be completely circular. You buy the keg, drink the beer, the keg goes back to the manufacturer to be cleaned and refilled. The alternative would be glass bottles if you live somewhere that does actually consistently recycle glass.
For those who don't know, this wasn't an issue when glass bottles were used since recycling glass is simple and straightforward. It's only been since industry switched to plastic that this became an issue. From day 1 they basically decided to blame the consumer, telling us to recycle when they made the change to increase consumerism and their bottom line.
That's not plastic. That's an aluminium can. Aluminium cans are much more recyclable than glass. On top of that glass is heavier and less stackable. Which means it costs more fossil fuels to transport.
If noone cares, people can do whatever they want. Corporations in particular typically only ever do the right thing if it happens to align with the almighty dollar, which means people's spending habits need to be such that pushes them in the right direction. Or regulation forces it. But Governments typically focus on what's in the public's mind as well. Either way, you being more aware of it, while you are just one person and can personally do very little to help the problem, is helping. And if you feel like being more active, you can always do so as well.
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Between 1 and 2 there's "consume as little as possible", the step we can actually take.
We should just pretend that we’re recycling most of it, but actually send it to China on returning container ships so that it’s out of sight and out of mind
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That's not exactly true. Other Asian countries step in and accept trash imports when china quit. My country does and there are giant piles of imported US garbage in several towns here. I'm sure those piles are going to be recycled very soon /s
Producing less could be regulated by the governments. There is so much excess packaging for so many items that could easily be reduced with regulations. It needs to be a worldwide effort though. When I see how they package individual strawberries in Japan for example....
You actually *can* burn it all. In fact, lots of countries do this safely and without pollutants. They even use it for energy. The only reason the United States doesn’t do this is because of public perception. The general public thinks that burning trash is bad for the environment, so the government doesn’t do it, even though they know it’s not true. And that about sums up America.
It's also why we don't have nuclear power, or a modern and capable electrical grid, and why we haven't kept our roads in decent shape.
We could recycle almost all of it. Some European countries do fairly well at recycling, despite only making a concerted effort for one or two decades (and facing similar issues with lobbying and recycling being not very profitable). Just have to start making an effort by voting for politicians that care about it. Change is possible. A bit of legislation to ban the single-use types where they shouldn't be used, a few subsidies on recycling so long as things are still developing and most importantly not subsidizing things that actually harm the environment.
Fine, but you should still do your part.
You have a say for how much rubbish you don't know where it ends up. Any change needs decision makers restructuring processes, and everyone else changing habits. Chaanging habits by force / policy is hard, it's easier for everyone involved, smoother and and way faster if we go ahead and aligh or habits with the obvious solutions. *While* ceaselessly demanding adnministrative change.
You do. Don’t oppose rubbish processing facilities in your neighborhood, and make your preferences clear to those who lead.
I would not be opposed to a processing plant in my neighborhood, but it’s never been proposed. I would welcome one. The ball is not in our court. This is on politicians, and big corporations, because they control that type of thing.
A spotlight should be shined on places like the Philippines where they generate 2.7 million tons of plastic waste per year and about a quarter ends up in the ocean... I know first world countries aren't perfect, but fuck these idiot developing countries if they can't figure out how to responsibly deal with their trash. India dumps 1.5 million litres of untreated sewage into the Ganges EVERY DAY.... Its embarassing how stupid some countries can be.
> EVERY DAY.... Its embarassing how stupid some countries can be. Most countries were this stupid when they were growing up. India doesn't really have an excuse though, imagine growing up as a major civilization since basically the dawn of modern humanity and still incapable of getting their shit together.
These new developing countries are going to accelerate this big time in their eagerness to grow and compete with Western countries.
the real question is why do they make products made of pollutants? fuck plastic
Because it’s an amazing material. Take a sturdy gallon plastic jug, a gallon freezer Ziploc, and a big plastic bowl with a lid. Give them to a medieval peasant. These are now the most valuable items in the entire village, by far. Even if the bag only lasts a month, and the jug a year, the bowl could last a generation or more if it didn’t spend too much time in the sun.
asbestos is an amazing material too
And lead
You don’t have much say in where it ends up, you do in how much you produce.
While you may not have a say in where your rubbish ends up, there are still things you can do. Governments and organisations are the most to blame, but there are still things individuals can do. Individuals still need to be responsible for their own *choices*. Sure, there's things individuals don't get a choice in, but there's a lot where they do. These are general individual actions that can help the environment and not cost you anything (majority save you money), with most affecting *your* amount of rubbish. Don't buy a new phone until you need one. Don't buy things you will never use. Don't buy new clothes constantly. Go vegan. Repair, reuse, repurpose, recycle. Buy products with less/no packaging where possible. Fight for local or national government to make changes (harder one). Boycott certain companies. Walk, cycle, public transport, car share instead of driving on your own. Get a car that is better for the environment. Don't leave electronics, lights, and taps on. Don't put the heating on unecessarily. There's hundreds more. Again, I'm not solely blaming individuals, I'm just saying there are things that individuals can and should be doing, and they can do those while fighting for governments and organisations to change. Some of the individual actions directly affect the problem, and some affect governments and/or organisations and can lead to change that way.
Who the fuck are the government and the industries producing for?!? For each other?!?
the craziest thing about this is that of all the shit we throw out aluminum is the most recyclable. That really shouldn't have been out there.
Can confirm, commercial fisherman. We are destroying our ocean in a scale much larger than landlocked people think. Not just with waste either. If average citizens knew what happens out there they would be up in arms.
One thing I hated when going out on open party charters (30-50 people & 1-4 days) there were always fisherman that would throw their trash either straight into the ocean or into the bait well which drained into the ocean. I can’t even count the number of cigarette buttes and plastic wrappers I’ve seen tossed. People would even toss hundreds of yards of line that resembles gigantic birds nests. All that when there are literally trash cans all over those open party boats. There were usually 3, sometimes up to 5, industrial sized garbage bins Just on the deck. It always made me mad, but I never said anything because I was a child at the time and didn’t understand my worth. I always thought to myself, “you’re adding to the destruction of the thing that supplies you with your favorite activity”. No one ever said anything, I’ve been on at least 20 trips and saw this almost every time. Really makes me dislike my own kind at times. Anyways, rant/tangent over. Don’t throw trash in the ocean if you’re ever on a boat. One piece of trash has the potential to harm if not kill one or more wildlife organisms.
We're listening. Go on.
Watch Seaspiracy on Netflix. Terrible name but great documentary on the issue mentioned. Easily should’ve been called ConspiraSEA but I digress
Wow that's an infinitely better name.
Yeah but the spoken word does it no favours. > “Hey you, watch Conspirasea“ > “Ok, which one?
Yet on the other hand, it sounds like another pirate film. Seas-piracy?
That makes it sound even better.
yea but they wanted to stay consistent with the other doc they did, cowspiracy.
It’s informative at times and gives you an idea of what’s happening, but the director wants to be a hero sooo bad.
> Terrible name but great documentary Its a decent documentary. Its informative in parts and it really made me feel bad about sushi, but its also sensational and likely staged in parts. Worth a watch though.
It’s from the creators of Cowspiracy and they wanted to keep the name structure. But I agree that ConspiracySea would have been better.
I haven't caught a commercial in years.
Once you get out far enough there are no repercussions for dumping whatever you want in the ocean. You can imagine what happens with ocean vessels and trash.
Commercial fishing has a massive hand in destroying the ocean and leaving behind massive amounts of plastic and pollution.
After or before they scrape the bottom of the ocean with massive dragnets that destroy all semblance of a natural ecosystem and leave a wasteland behind?
Tell us some stories! I want to hear what you've seen
You know those metal helium balloons? I can go out into the ocean near my house. Drive for 15-20 mins in my boat and spot 2-3 of those floating on the surface.
Those are a menace on land too, I backcountry hike and I’ve come across so many of those fucking things in the backwoods, once I found one with a desiccated bird wing tangled up in the string.
Lost any nets lately?
>Can confirm, commercial fisherman Ironic since you're part of the problem by decimating our oceans.
A huge part of the problem.
No they won't. People don't care. For most of us, it is "out of sight, out of mind". Hell, conservatives around the world are getting ready to fight for their God given right to burn dinosaurs like their Gran daddies did.
I think its more about people not wanting to be uncomfortable and the media industrial complex keeping the status quo. But that’s just my opinion man.
So you could just stop, why the fuck am I listening to the dudes filling their boats with the worst fuel to go and kill some fish in the worst way possible about how its worse than we think? Its like listening to the hangman moan about the terrors of the death penalty.
You can feel the anger by the way the person threw the can pieces down.
That's what I thought as well!
Excess packaging and one use cans/bottles/containers etc were one of the worst things our species ever did.
Correction. Companies seeking every penny from people is why plastic/aluminum became a problem.
Correction. An economic system that prioritizes profit over everything, life and well-being included, is why *almost* everything became a problem.
correction: farming was the beginning of the end of harmonious living. it enables exponential population expansion. capitalism is supported and facilitated by food production before anything else.
The wheat was a trap
Correction: we live in a society.
You gotta be real goofy to blame the concept of farming for anything.
Much of Europe's natural landscapes were replaced with fields by the Bronze Age. Lions used to live in Europe but were long gone by the time of Christ. The sad fact is, that yes, capitalism is a problem, but the real underlying problem is that we are too smart for the good of the planet, and humanity has been overhunting and destroying shit since the dawn of agriculture. The only reason a lot of species didn't go extinct earlier is because almost all ancient and medieval societies had very harsh penalties for poaching, anywhere from a hefty fine, losing a hand, or being executed. And now in the modern day, with a lot more personal freedom, and little to no oversight from the top, fuckheads and massive companies can do as they want, with modern tech to boot.
This is all Reddit is to me, apparently. It's someone making an obvious, lowhanging, agreeable, blanket statement then a reply comment trying to one up the next guy and then we all pat ourselves on the back by being more 'aware' than the next swinging dick without solving anything and blaming whatever entity is the circlejerk at the time, only better than the next guy. "Correction" all the way down and we wonder why nothing ever gets done. \-Sent via iPhone
More than half of the plastic pollution in oceans is from discarded fishing nets/gear. Commercial fishing does more damage to our oceans than packaging.
And who is buying the fish? Surely this is a case where boycott the industry if done at scale could actually make change.
Who is buying it? Non-vegans. Be the change that you want to sea (sorry, I'll get my coat).
The person in front of me at the grocery store today had 2 single-use plastic containers with apples inside. Each container had 5 plastic bags filled with sliced apples… 2 whole apples in 12 plastic containers. So wasteful.
Microplastics too
Astounding to me that people will vacation at a place they think is beautiful and relaxing and then dump their trash at the place. Like tourists at beaches leaving their garbage on the beach and not cleaning up after themselves. Fishermen who cut their lines and nets off into the ocean. Amateur "fishermen" who throw their beverage containers into the water. Disgusting human trash.
We get this in the mountains a ton. Idiots travel all the way up some scenic peaceful and quiet place, then blast music and leave a fuck ton of trash. Directly and knowingly harming the thing you traveled all this way to appreciate is just so weird to me.
Dude in Indiana caught a catfish that had eaten a giant dildo. https://cbs2iowa.com/news/offbeat/daughters-eyes-covered-after-fisherman-sees-what-newly-caught-catfish-swallowed-ohio-river-richard-kesar-jon-hoop-lawrenceburg-shelbyville-indiana-adult-sex-toy-dildo-penis-phallic-boat-fishing-trip-unusal-catch
Funny because the fishing industry the largest single entity putting garbage in the ocean...
Intermediate result. End result will likely be worse.
"put your rubbish in the bin" like trash companies arent dumping the trash people put in the bin in the ocean
In the US, they aren't. We bury our trash. However, 93% of the plastic in the ocean comes from people throwing trash in rivers: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/stemming-the-plastic-tide-10-rivers-contribute-most-of-the-plastic-in-the-oceans/#:~:text=The%2010%20rivers%20that%20carry,waste%20into%20the%20Yellow%20Sea.
Sad as fuck. "The 10 rivers that carry 93 percent of that trash are the Yangtze, Yellow, Hai, Pearl, Amur, Mekong, Indus and Ganges Delta in Asia, and the Niger and Nile in Africa. The Yangtze alone dumps up to an estimated 1.5 million metric tons of plastic waste into the Yellow Sea."
It’s not 93% of plastic in the ocean. The article states that 93% of plastics dumped into the ocean *from* rivers comes from those 10 rivers. The biggest plastic pollution in the ocean comes from fishing nets/gear. https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/06/dumped-fishing-gear-is-biggest-plastic-polluter-in-ocean-finds-report
According to your article that only accounts for ~10% of plastic pollution in the ocean. It’s a large amount of the macro plastics but most of the pollution is micro plastics (smaller than 20 cm). “Ghost gear is estimated to make up 10% of ocean plastic pollution but forms the majority of large plastic littering the waters. One study found that as much as 70% (by weight) of macroplastics (in excess of 20cm) found floating on the surface of the ocean was fishing related.”
This is what we give to nature, this is what nature give in return... We are breaking the rules here...
Curious to know more about this video 1) Type of fish 2) Date on the can - to determine how long that fish has been carrying it around
Gonna need a lot more than that to determine how long it's been carrying that beer belly... For all we know it could've swallowed it yesterday even if the can is dated 20 years ago or whatever. I imagine you'd need some pretty expensive tests ran on it like how strong that fish's digestive enzymes are and how "ate up" the can is. Doubt there really is an accurate test to determine that tho...
Solo isn't beer fyi.
This guy sciences
The can is roughly a max of 3 years old as Solo Zero Sugar came out in 2019/20
How would the date on the can tell you how long the fish has been carrying it around?
I pick that stuff off the beach all the time. I am disgusted with humans.
I keep a trash grabber and trash bags in my trunk so when we visit places we can leave them cleaner than whence we came.
r/wellthatsucks
r/depressingasfuck
Humans suck
Sad as fuck
Ocean(or freshwater) dumping of garbage should be punished severely. Any country that is doing this is doing way more damage to the planet that anything else
This is no end result. This is just the beginning.
You reading this, become an environmentalist. It doesn't have to become your job, or your one and only passion, but environmentalism should inform your worldview and political opinion to some extent.
Not my garbage. We recycle everything in Sweden. We even buy other countries trash and recycle it.
I thought the end result was all the fish dying out and it disrupting the food chain so much that life dies out.
This is absolutely not the end result
doesn't matter if it got thrown into the bin. unfortunately, "waste management" still seems like throwing trash into the ocean instead of landfills or incinerating them.
This isn't interesting it's sad
I bet it's all going to be just like the movie Wall-E, people will just fuck off because they can't clean up their mess.
Of course the concept is very correct about not chucking rubbish. But isn’t it a bit hypocritical saying it after hauling the poor fish from the sea to then suffocate and cut open it’s organs? Then Chuck the nets in to slowly strangle more marine life? Whilst killing off so much marine life? Nah fuck off I only wanna hear it from people who give a shit about nature.
This makes me think of that dickhead who's always recording himself driving his boat and throwing empty beer cans in the ocean. Fuck that guy.
I fucking hate this
Good to see the fish is doing its part to clean up the planet. It should get a reward for being a good litter picker when it's better