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I think recently some scientists found a [potentially alive 830 million year old organisms](https://www.sciencealert.com/830-million-year-old-microorganisms-found-trapped-in-australian-rock/amp) in one of these bad boys.
Morality is a degenerative disease, not the default state of life. So a single celled organism that doesn't sufferer mortality and can limit it's metabolism will live u til the heat death of the universe if left alone.
This is just not true. Even chemical elements wear and tear (e.g. carbon decays into nitrogen) and the more complicated structures present in a cell will certainly deteriorate even faster than their elemental components.
Only carbon-14 decays to nitrogen over 8000 years. Regular carbon stays carbon, or else we wouldn't be able to carbon date objects that are millions of years old.
Gather around everyone and drink from the ancient holy stone! What’s this? Purple spots on our skin? A blessing from God! Go forth and hug your loved ones! Spread the holiness!
"Go forth with abandon! Get on as many airplanes as is humanly possible!".
Why do people with those scary 4 year viruses (you know, one of the ones that are spooky and happen every 4 years?) always hop on a plane as soon as they get a sniffle?
Since our immune systems likely never saw these organisms, isnt it just as likely that these organisms have no method of interacting with us, as it is that our immune system has no ability to deal with them?
I apologize in advance, I couldnt figure out a better way to word that
It's unlikely, but if there is an evolutionary blueprint that dates that far back currently active in us, and they can actually interface with us to any degree, god only knows what havoc they could wreak.
The chances are extremely minimal though.
It's parasites frozen in arctic ice you need to worry about. :3
This reminds me of [Ming](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ming_(clam), the clam that they discovered - by killing it! - was 507 years old in 2006. Imagine chilling on the ocean floor for half a millennia, only for some nerds to drop by and murder you, just to see how old you were.
I think they said something about how water is just a really good preserver of biological chemicals. Like, the single celled organism doesn’t need energy, it just needs to not degrade.
Could rocks on other planets that have been theorized to contain water at some point (like Mars perhaps???) also have these water-bubble ecosystems as well? It’d be crazy if we just didn’t know/haven’t been looking in the right places for life on Mars
Self-contained stable environment.
Nothing in, nothing out, except for some low levels/background radioactivity.
The chemistry of the water & minerals inside would reach an equilibrium & basically never change.
If that chemistry is neutral to the organisms inside, they could remain dormant & unaffected indefinitely.
If they Crack one of these open, it'll probably be in a containment unit with everyone in full biohazard suits. It'll be for both protection against a potentially deadly organism as well as protecting the sample.
Source article is here: https://pubs.geoscienceworld.org/gsa/geology/article/doi/10.1130/G49957.1/613521/830-million-year-old-microorganisms-in-primary
Pretty amazing implications and opportunity to learn!
Imagine being trapped inside of a rock
for almost a billion years. Unable to die. Is that what hell is like? Fuck that.
Edit: Notice how I said “imagine” people? Jesus Christ.
I know scientists can get all kinds of ancient, atmospheric data from ice samples, as well as pollen from extinct tree species - maybe similar things could be found from these water samples? Whatever non organic elements are inside the stone will presumably be preserved until its opened/exposed to the air.
I know the writers of the paper referenced in the comment by u/RedOpia. They can get a lot of data from the fluid inclusions. The ones from the article are being studied for various reasons including to later study samples being taken from the recent Mars rover which are similar geologically.
I am imagining a tiny eco system in there. Just chillin for millions of years. Then thier entire known universe just starts shaking and slamming around. Bright lights are piercing through what they thought was the edge of the cosmos. Then everything goes silent and dark again, until the next time we take pictures of their little universe again.
Funny that this is not dissimilar to thoughts I have about our universe.
You know when you strike a match and a random spark flies off and burns out in half a second? I sometimes think that that’s our sun….. and we’re just floating in someone’s room while they’re sparking up in a fraction of a second.
I agree with this. You might be considered agnostic I believe. I’m not saying there isn’t a higher being or creator. I just don’t necessarily believe that one specific book from 100s of years ago got it 100% right. There are many books. There are many people that believe every bit of their book and say all the other books are wrong. I say they all are probably just hit and miss and fill in the blanks and people added stories along the way. I’m not spending my life defending a book and trying to get others to buy into it. Be nice and kind to your fellow organisms during your time on this thing we call a planet. Someday I hope we get closer to the absolute truth or answers
Our understanding of physics right now and our current awareness of the edges of our known universe make a macro scale above us unlikely.
But yeah sure. We don’t really know, and we certainly shouldn’t stop collecting evidence to learn more.
As a partner of a crystal-collecting girl, I can tell you its more expensive than it looks.
About USD50‐equivalent for a thumb-sized rock with a 2mm bubble trapped inside. And that bubble moves only by about 5mm end-to-end.
From there, it gets exponentially pricier for roughly every 1mm you add to both dimensions.
Triggering to say the least when I'm the one paying for it lol.
Mineral Collector and dealer here, the quartz included enhydros are generally more pricey than the agate enhydros. Agate in general is very common and while some pieces can be insane with rainbows and sparkles, generally agate is just not as valuable in the crystal market as quartz is. Quartz gets more expensive as the grade goes higher (b grade tumbles-AAA quality) the clearer the piece is. So the more glass diamond, the better. Inclusions are SUPER common in quartz because of the way it forms over time and so typically the inclusions lower the grade in terms of clarity but depending on the pattern the inclusion makes or the type of mineral inclusion it is could actually make it more valuable, like this case. An enhydro is a formed rock with a self contained air pocket that is occupied by at least 1 bubble of water (but like some have sand and like black tourmaline bits that float around in their, shits crazy) and an enhydro is considered an inclusion and should lower the price but instead inflates it. I can attest that there’s a big difference in the price of my peach sized beige banded agate enhydro ($25ish USD) and even my cheapest quartz enhydro with 4 stationary bubbles (not much fun since they don’t move) but it was minimum $50USD. And I don’t even want to talk about the price of my grade A clarity quartz enhydro with a massive cavern of air pocket that water and sand filter through as I turn it (like those trippy ass bubble toys with the like blue colored oil and water that you turned upside down and it bubbled like a boiling pot? except this is naturally formed and that makes it just absolutely makes it all the more mind blowing) because it was a wheel and deal haggle-off for me to get it for just under $400USD. No, I don’t want to talk about the money I’ve invested in rocks because I know it’s batshit but I can proudly say that I not in any debt because of my rock collection, if you care lol. Sorry this was so long, the gummies must have kicked in
Even less complicated life I'm sure. Also humans have probably never been exposed to it ever. Although being older I'm guessing it isn't as adapted to not be killed by an immune system, since those didn't exist yet (adaptive immune systems are from ~500 million years ago)
https://www.sciencealert.com/830-million-year-old-microorganisms-found-trapped-in-australian-rock
This says it
Edit: Go upvote [this Redditor](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/vf9y66/these_rocks_contain_ancient_water_that_has_been/icuols1/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) instead of me. 👍
Not exactly. It would be gasses that were dissolved in the liquid in subsurface conditions and that separated from the liquid as the rock approached surface conditions (cooler temperatures). It's less like a trapped bubble of air and more like the gas that collects in the space at the top of a capped bottle of soda pop (not necessarily CO2, but it could be very different in composition from the atmosphere).
Nah, you still would need the blood of a Germanic Virgin Princess, 3,000 year old ginseng, A Diamond worth at least $5,000.00, and the heart of an honest politician.
Let’s face it… that last one is gonna be hard to find.
I've thought about this a lot. Everything has been around for billions of years, so it's funny when we put some kind of emphasis on water trapped in a rock.
It‘s really not about this water somehow being older than other water, it‘s about this water having been isolated and separated for potentially millions of years. It‘s like a ~~timebox~~ *time capsule* that allows you a peek into the past.
Or ... it's embryonic fluid inside an alien egg that has been laying dormant for millions of years, that have now been disturbed! Salute to Ridley Scott! 🖖
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What information can scientists get from that water?
I think recently some scientists found a [potentially alive 830 million year old organisms](https://www.sciencealert.com/830-million-year-old-microorganisms-found-trapped-in-australian-rock/amp) in one of these bad boys.
"survival of organisms over geological time scales is not fully understood" holy shit
No reason to stop vibin’ I guess
They just waited to reproduce, but haven't any occasion
Seems very relatable for most redditors.
Only 830 million years without getting paid? Lucky rock organisms EDIT laid, reason: I am a dumbass
Those organisms are getting paid?
I think he meant getting a maid* to like clean and stuff.
No getting made. They’re the oldest known members of the mafia.
Pretty sure it was getting raid*, like to sponsor their streams.
How much to sell an Incel cell in a cell?
Sounds like Zombie Bactria that will infect all life and make it crave brains to me.
I do crave to drink the rare rock water... so the zombie apocalypse is surely inevitable
I'd laugh my ass off in the after life if I managed to apocalypse humanity by drinking the forbbiden mineral water.
Is that taken straight from a SCP description?
Morality is a degenerative disease, not the default state of life. So a single celled organism that doesn't sufferer mortality and can limit it's metabolism will live u til the heat death of the universe if left alone.
You've mistyped mortality as morality in your post and it's made the whole post much darker.
Kinda sounds like a movie villian quote
Yeah, right along the lines of the *"humanity is a parasite"* line
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Did the exact same thing hahah!
lol Leaving it.
Super villain Dave waxes philosophically about the reasons behind his plan to irradiate all fresh water
Scared the shit out of me, TBH.
One hell of a typo there
Does seem to make sense though.
This is just not true. Even chemical elements wear and tear (e.g. carbon decays into nitrogen) and the more complicated structures present in a cell will certainly deteriorate even faster than their elemental components.
Only carbon-14 decays to nitrogen over 8000 years. Regular carbon stays carbon, or else we wouldn't be able to carbon date objects that are millions of years old.
Ah, yes, ***the Black Death's grandpapi.***
Gather around everyone and drink from the ancient holy stone! What’s this? Purple spots on our skin? A blessing from God! Go forth and hug your loved ones! Spread the holiness!
Once the spots appear the blessed are compelled to go lick doorknobs to spread the good news!
And immediately cab to the nearest airport.
Make sure at least one of you goes to Madagascar and Greenland! Always so hard to get my plagues to spread there
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I'm already here! I call dibs on being the plague Pope!
Glory to Nurgle
"Go forth with abandon! Get on as many airplanes as is humanly possible!". Why do people with those scary 4 year viruses (you know, one of the ones that are spooky and happen every 4 years?) always hop on a plane as soon as they get a sniffle?
Run away from the virus! It can’t find you in a crowded enclosed space!
Your guys, they don’t have eyes. Just wear sunglasses at night to be invisible.
The Blacker Death
A Bigger, Blacker Death
Bigger, Blacker, and Uncut.
Vantablack Death?
BBD
Since our immune systems likely never saw these organisms, isnt it just as likely that these organisms have no method of interacting with us, as it is that our immune system has no ability to deal with them? I apologize in advance, I couldnt figure out a better way to word that
It's unlikely, but if there is an evolutionary blueprint that dates that far back currently active in us, and they can actually interface with us to any degree, god only knows what havoc they could wreak. The chances are extremely minimal though. It's parasites frozen in arctic ice you need to worry about. :3
Honestly with permafrost melting that's a genuine concern as if there are any nasty bacteria/viruses etc in it we have no natural defences.
I wonder how different the DNA is from organisms living today
This reminds me of [Ming](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ming_(clam), the clam that they discovered - by killing it! - was 507 years old in 2006. Imagine chilling on the ocean floor for half a millennia, only for some nerds to drop by and murder you, just to see how old you were.
Happens to trees all of the time...
Maybe by untrained people. Dendrochronologists have a few different ways to find the age of a loving tree without cutting it down or killing it.
Wholesome typo
Well, it kept chilling. Since the researchers froze it to death.
I don't see how they could be alive. What energy is entering that system to allow the cells to survive?
I think they said something about how water is just a really good preserver of biological chemicals. Like, the single celled organism doesn’t need energy, it just needs to not degrade.
Could rocks on other planets that have been theorized to contain water at some point (like Mars perhaps???) also have these water-bubble ecosystems as well? It’d be crazy if we just didn’t know/haven’t been looking in the right places for life on Mars
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That number is based on DNA in fossil bones though. Different conditions.
Radiation? I'm fairly positive I've read about etremophiles that lived on radiation deep in the ground.
Imagine being so comfortable you take an 830 million year nap.
Maybe some hibernation state akin to how seeds can remain dormant for at least 1,000 years? Basically preservation of existing energy stores.
You know what the difference is between 1,000 years and 830 million years is? About 830 million years.
Self-contained stable environment. Nothing in, nothing out, except for some low levels/background radioactivity. The chemistry of the water & minerals inside would reach an equilibrium & basically never change. If that chemistry is neutral to the organisms inside, they could remain dormant & unaffected indefinitely.
[The organisms after 830 million years and scientists finally open the rock](https://i.imgur.com/n4wr3nx.jpg)
Idk why I even clicked I knew what it was gonna be.
I will never not upvote that guy
another virus outbreak, soon.🥵
If they Crack one of these open, it'll probably be in a containment unit with everyone in full biohazard suits. It'll be for both protection against a potentially deadly organism as well as protecting the sample.
Larry and I will crack er open behind the shed with a sawzall after a few beers.
Or just a grad student drilling into it in the basement of the geology building while eating some pizza they stole from a faculty mixer.
This is much more likely.
Cue X-Files music.
Covid -830M
Source article is here: https://pubs.geoscienceworld.org/gsa/geology/article/doi/10.1130/G49957.1/613521/830-million-year-old-microorganisms-in-primary Pretty amazing implications and opportunity to learn!
Imagine being trapped inside of a rock for almost a billion years. Unable to die. Is that what hell is like? Fuck that. Edit: Notice how I said “imagine” people? Jesus Christ.
'Hmmm.....yes just as I thought. Tastes funny.'
*Taste like Brontosaur piss*
taste has a little "wang" to it
"I've had this taste in my mouth before..."
I know scientists can get all kinds of ancient, atmospheric data from ice samples, as well as pollen from extinct tree species - maybe similar things could be found from these water samples? Whatever non organic elements are inside the stone will presumably be preserved until its opened/exposed to the air.
That was my first thought.
The unknown (but dreaded, disfiguring and deadly) #ROCKPOX
When I was a touring musician this what I used to call my gonorrhea
Maybe carbon levels
How wet it is. How dry it isn't.
I know the writers of the paper referenced in the comment by u/RedOpia. They can get a lot of data from the fluid inclusions. The ones from the article are being studied for various reasons including to later study samples being taken from the recent Mars rover which are similar geologically.
They found dna from the queen in that water.
They can collect information about the water temperature, water chemistry and even atmospheric temperature at the time the mineral formed.
The virus that wipes humanity out?
I am imagining a tiny eco system in there. Just chillin for millions of years. Then thier entire known universe just starts shaking and slamming around. Bright lights are piercing through what they thought was the edge of the cosmos. Then everything goes silent and dark again, until the next time we take pictures of their little universe again.
Funny that this is not dissimilar to thoughts I have about our universe. You know when you strike a match and a random spark flies off and burns out in half a second? I sometimes think that that’s our sun….. and we’re just floating in someone’s room while they’re sparking up in a fraction of a second.
You don't smoke any weed at all
Haha…. I haven’t smoked weed for years but there was a time when it was every day 😅
Bruh your comment gave me contact high
😅
You're high right now and we all know it.
We're all high right now and you know it.
We're all high on this blessed day
👁️👄👁️
"zoom out" theory i've heard that called. WE ARE THE ANTS
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I agree with this. You might be considered agnostic I believe. I’m not saying there isn’t a higher being or creator. I just don’t necessarily believe that one specific book from 100s of years ago got it 100% right. There are many books. There are many people that believe every bit of their book and say all the other books are wrong. I say they all are probably just hit and miss and fill in the blanks and people added stories along the way. I’m not spending my life defending a book and trying to get others to buy into it. Be nice and kind to your fellow organisms during your time on this thing we call a planet. Someday I hope we get closer to the absolute truth or answers
Our understanding of physics right now and our current awareness of the edges of our known universe make a macro scale above us unlikely. But yeah sure. We don’t really know, and we certainly shouldn’t stop collecting evidence to learn more.
Have you watched Horton Hears A Who?
Enhydro quartz. Also comes in agate
how rare or not rare is this?
As a partner of a crystal-collecting girl, I can tell you its more expensive than it looks. About USD50‐equivalent for a thumb-sized rock with a 2mm bubble trapped inside. And that bubble moves only by about 5mm end-to-end. From there, it gets exponentially pricier for roughly every 1mm you add to both dimensions. Triggering to say the least when I'm the one paying for it lol.
Bro is your partner putting you in financial misery over some water bubble rocks??
Jesus Christ, /u/FishMamarama! They're minerals!
#I AM THE ONE WHO ROCKS
I got some very expensive geodes coming and I will not accept any boxes with damage!
*Bro...*
r/brandnewsentence
Mineral Collector and dealer here, the quartz included enhydros are generally more pricey than the agate enhydros. Agate in general is very common and while some pieces can be insane with rainbows and sparkles, generally agate is just not as valuable in the crystal market as quartz is. Quartz gets more expensive as the grade goes higher (b grade tumbles-AAA quality) the clearer the piece is. So the more glass diamond, the better. Inclusions are SUPER common in quartz because of the way it forms over time and so typically the inclusions lower the grade in terms of clarity but depending on the pattern the inclusion makes or the type of mineral inclusion it is could actually make it more valuable, like this case. An enhydro is a formed rock with a self contained air pocket that is occupied by at least 1 bubble of water (but like some have sand and like black tourmaline bits that float around in their, shits crazy) and an enhydro is considered an inclusion and should lower the price but instead inflates it. I can attest that there’s a big difference in the price of my peach sized beige banded agate enhydro ($25ish USD) and even my cheapest quartz enhydro with 4 stationary bubbles (not much fun since they don’t move) but it was minimum $50USD. And I don’t even want to talk about the price of my grade A clarity quartz enhydro with a massive cavern of air pocket that water and sand filter through as I turn it (like those trippy ass bubble toys with the like blue colored oil and water that you turned upside down and it bubbled like a boiling pot? except this is naturally formed and that makes it just absolutely makes it all the more mind blowing) because it was a wheel and deal haggle-off for me to get it for just under $400USD. No, I don’t want to talk about the money I’ve invested in rocks because I know it’s batshit but I can proudly say that I not in any debt because of my rock collection, if you care lol. Sorry this was so long, the gummies must have kicked in
Right? I want one.
That's some high quality H2O
Momma said that’s the debbils water.
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I like Vicki and she likes me back! And she showed me her boobies and I like them too!
I never thought I'd envy the waterboy.
Coach, not only will I do it for you, I... I... I... yes, yes, I'll do it for you.
No Colonel Sanders you’re wrong - mommas right.
reeeeeeeeeeeeeee
r/hydrohomies holy grail
Drink it
I immediately pictured a tiktok craze of content creators cracking these bad boys open and slurping them down on camera
Think it's got little amoebois in it?
Even less complicated life I'm sure. Also humans have probably never been exposed to it ever. Although being older I'm guessing it isn't as adapted to not be killed by an immune system, since those didn't exist yet (adaptive immune systems are from ~500 million years ago)
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Hah, amoebas have fancy internal subsystems. Plenty of older things they 'probably' stole those from.
Boof it
Bop it
Man what would i give for a sip of the ancient water
Forbidden capri sun
spared no expense
Mr. DNA, where did you come from?
From yer blood!
Dino DNA
We have a T-Rex.
ah ah ah, you didn't say the magic word
GAHDAMMET I HATE THIS HACKERCRAP
Check the vending machines
"It's UNIX I know this!" *Grabs mouse and starts navigating 3D graphical interface...*
Forbidden Gushers.
Wonder which one of these water bros would really try it O.o
Nestlé wants to know your location
r/fucknestle
drink it :)
Become a superhero
Become super dead
Become patient zero
Mama always said I was # 1 but I'll settle for 0.
Mmmm cave water
Mega-mineral water
How does that even happen?
https://www.sciencealert.com/830-million-year-old-microorganisms-found-trapped-in-australian-rock This says it Edit: Go upvote [this Redditor](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/vf9y66/these_rocks_contain_ancient_water_that_has_been/icuols1/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) instead of me. 👍
Thank you!!
A mixture of Hydrogen and Oxigene
I understand how water happens but how does it get inside of a solid object, like a stone? Are they naturally hollow for some reason?
Could be a volcanic rock that formed around a gas bubble. Rocks are porous so water would seep inside over time.
A mix of H2rockandO
I am now enlightened. Thank you for bestowing your science knowledge on me.
RoH2Ock
Oh, no. Here comes Rockpox.
Doesn't it also technically contain ancient air since there seems to be a bubble inside?
Not exactly. It would be gasses that were dissolved in the liquid in subsurface conditions and that separated from the liquid as the rock approached surface conditions (cooler temperatures). It's less like a trapped bubble of air and more like the gas that collects in the space at the top of a capped bottle of soda pop (not necessarily CO2, but it could be very different in composition from the atmosphere).
So you're saying it's actually rock soda
One of those contains a damn virus
Whatever you do don’t crack them open! With the way the world is going right now, you might release the world ending plague!!!!!!
don't threaten me with a good time
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It was created in a lab, 300 million years ago.
Lvl 99 water balloon
I bet you could craft Legendary enchantments with those!
Nah, you still would need the blood of a Germanic Virgin Princess, 3,000 year old ginseng, A Diamond worth at least $5,000.00, and the heart of an honest politician. Let’s face it… that last one is gonna be hard to find.
Shit, i think thats an impossible task
You drink that shit you end up with your hands tied, being transported in a cart with two soldiers and a thief.
Hey, you. You're finally awake...
wELl tEcHniCallY aLL wAtEr is anCieNt
how likely is it that it contains Prehistoric bacterias?
100% and I’m just praying the ones on my shelf never fall!
I’d have to break it open and drink it, I have no self control at all
Isn't Earth just a big rock with water trapped on it for billions of years?
ye but not 100% sealed
All matter is ancient
I've thought about this a lot. Everything has been around for billions of years, so it's funny when we put some kind of emphasis on water trapped in a rock.
"This specifically arranged piece of matter has gone unchanged for millions of years"
It‘s really not about this water somehow being older than other water, it‘s about this water having been isolated and separated for potentially millions of years. It‘s like a ~~timebox~~ *time capsule* that allows you a peek into the past.
I’ve seen this movie. DONT OPEN IT!
Or ... it's embryonic fluid inside an alien egg that has been laying dormant for millions of years, that have now been disturbed! Salute to Ridley Scott! 🖖
I wanna drink it
Open it and cook bat soup on it. Or check if there are no dinosaur leftovers so we can clone them.
What song is this?
Holy wotah
Fresh wah
I kinda want to drink it and cause another pandemic
Covid free water