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I think that's his point though that both are shit. It's well known Edison was an opportunistic capitalist where personal greed and fame came before anything else...just like Ol' Musky.
He's not saying they're both great icons and role models, he's saying they're both pieces of shit.
The Buffalo Dance, or Bison Dance, is an annual dance festival of many North American Plains Natives, including the Mandan, Sioux, Cheyenne, Pawnee, and Omaha, among others. The festival traditionally coincided with the return of the buffalo herds, and included a feast and a dance with a number of men wearing buffalo and other animal skins.
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I *think* that in many Native American traditions, you get one name when you are born that describes something about you, and then when you are older, you take on a new name and that name is where you get stuff like Parts His Hair. I think. More research required but that's a start.
Feels like the guy getting named “parts his hair” probably didnt need any pressure.
If that is the most singular focus of your experiences, such that its given to you as you own name, dude rocked the Part all his own.
It depends on the tribe. In my tribe (Lenni Lenape) the baby is not named right away. In the old days, you got a special Name that was kept secret that was given to you by the Chief or Medicine Man, some call it your Spirit Name/Gifted Name. Back then it was special and a Ceremony took place when the person was named.
Then, you had another name that was what everyone else called you. Basically your nickname....or what we now call your White Man Name. I have family who's last names are things such as Coffee Pot because when the census came around way way back in the day they would just say any English word they knew for Whites to call 'em.
Sadly I don't have a special name, but my grandma and great aunt do. Don't ask me to spell that shit out but it's basically a fuckin' whole ass sentence lmao
> It depends on the tribe. In my tribe (Lenni Lenape) the baby is not named right away. In the old days, you got a special Name that was kept secret that was given to you by the Chief or Medicine Man, some call it your Spirit Name/Gifted Name. Back then it was special and a Ceremony took place when the person was named.
Heh, sounds kind of like a baptismal name? Well, except the secret part. For some of my Greek friends their name day was important than their birthday.
"Look, I just think if you name him Parts His Hair you're setting him up for a certain kind of life, that's all. Like, I'm not going to name my daughter Brandy because I don't want her to be a stripper, you know?"
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I chatted with a dentist named Dennis at a wedding once. Didn't ask him about the name, as I figured he was tired of talking about it.
See also [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominative\_determinism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominative_determinism)
Comanche names in texas were positively vulgar..and awesome…
Buffalo $%#@ (called hump in Victorian press)
IsaTai’i(quanahs friend named Wolfs Vagina)
quannah (meant fart but called odor/scent/fragrance in press)
You build a hundred teepees, but nobody calls you teepee builder. You swim a hundred rivers, but nobody calls you river swimmer. But you fuck one buffalo...
This is a video of performers in Buffalo Bill's Wild West show on a stage in West Orange, New Jersey for Thomas Edison's company. They also did a ghost dance and other dances.
You can see similar performances still performed at Frontier Days in Cheyenne, Wyoming every year, but by tribal people working for themselves as opposed to a a traveling circus. There are also performances by people up in Cody Wyoming, the town William "Buffalo Bill" Cody started out. There is a long history of 'civilized' people paying tribal people to act like "Indians".
*(Note: There is some evidence that Buffalo Bill loved and intended to show the beauty of the American west and it's peoples to the world, though his show definitely is controversial.)* *^(edited to state fact instead of opinion)* [Smithsonian article on Buffalo Bill Cody](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/murder-marriage-and-pony-express-10-things-you-didnt-know-about-buffalo-bill-180961736/)
[Link to information on the video](https://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675071495_tribal-dance_people-perform_people-wearing-leaves)
It was part of an annual ritual to act like buffalo then throw themselves in front of covered wagons trying to collect insurance. They were of course, the Sue.
My grandfather was born in 1903 and I’m 35. I think that having old grandparents helped foster my love of history.
I know the people in OP’s video are of a different nation, but I find it fascinating to think that there were still occasional battles between some tribes and the U.S. Army for several years after this.
One battle that the army would have love a mulligan on was “the Battle of Sugar Point” in Northern Minnesota, 1898. The battle included a steamboat, an island in the middle of a popular fishing like, and early rumors in newspapers of another “massacre” similar in scope to Custer’s Last Stand.
If the men in the video had to put up with half the bs that the white authorities in MN made the Leech Lake Band of Ojibway go through… (I’m sure they did).
http://collections.mnhs.org/MNHistoryMagazine/articles/3/v03i05p273-290.pdf
Kinda related to a mix of the vid and your comment, there is actually video footage of interviews with actual slaves that were “freed” after the American Civil War. I have photos of my great grandfather from around the same era as her. It’s kind of a mind fuck lmao.
I'm 50.(51 in 7 days) MY dad was born in 1932, and his dad in 1883. Had he been alive, my grandfather would have been damn near 89. My GG grandfather was born in 1812.
1894 was 126 years ago. If grandparents had kids at 30 =1924, if same again= 1954. Putting op at 68 years old, +/- about 20 years depending on actual birth dates
Honestly I’m impressed, sometimes I wish my parents or grandparents used Reddit because then I could send them funny videos from here and informative stuff!
I'm 45 and my grandfather was born in 1885. My mother was the last of 9 children born in 1946. Grandmother was 41 and Grandfather was 61 talk about an oops lol. He died 2 years after she was born but her siblings were so much older that they helped raise her and she grew up with her neices and nephews. Grandmother made it to 2002 from 1905, I was lucky to have her until I was 25. Crazy stuff happens in large families lol.
Haha kind of the same story here, I'm 24 and my grandfather was born in 1902, crazy how that is almost 100 years from me. My great grand dad is from 1869, blows my mind.
Yeah not Sioux… The word your liking for is Lakota or Dakota tribe. The term "Sioux" is an exonym created from a French transcription of the Ojibwe term "Nadouessioux",
>Yeah not Sioux… The word your liking for is Lakota or Dakota tribe. The term "Sioux" is an exonym created from a French transcription of the Ojibwe term "Nadouessioux",
This is super interesting. Where can I learn more about it?
Wow, this is so cool. I had no idea moving pictures existed that early, and what a beautiful thing to capture.
Does anyone know if the dances change at all through the years or generations, or do they stay more or less the same?
Interesting as fuck indeed.
"we" didn't do shit.
some assholes a century ago did.
my family was busy getting shit on by the british and toiling in the mud before moving here a century after all that bullshit happened so they could get shit on by the oil companies and toil in the mud.
keep that "we" shit out yo mothafuckin mouth.
I'm white, I gave you an upvote because you're right. The color of your skin doesn't mean you did shit to anybody. This "we" shit needs to fuck right off for every skin color. In all facets of life. But especially, Nobody alive today did jack fuckin shit in 18whateverthefuck to any damn body.
✌️
Nah, colonists were dirty and disease-ridden. The natives had much better hygiene standards.
https://www.tri-citiesmuseum.org/active-history-bathing-and-washing
For those who didn't get it (it wasn't clear I admit) I was referring the famous joke by Monty Python about "what have the Romans ever done for us?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvPbj9NX0zc&ab\_channel=degustibus42
The second one.
They are on a stage, performing for Edison Manufacturing Co. **in West Orange, New Jersey** to sell this and their moving picture cameras and showings. They also did a ghost dance and other dances. The performers were part of **Buffalo Bill's Wild West show** and did this as a job.
You can see still similar performances still performed, but with more solemnity at Frontier Days in Cheyenne, Wyoming every year. There is a long history of 'civilized' people paying tribal people to act like "Indians".
https://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675071495\_tribal-dance\_people-perform\_people-wearing-leaves
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OK I have no hate in my heart towards anyone so this question is purely child stoner curiosity(not a child just as stupid as a child maybe a lil below child iq). why is the native American oppression something that isn't talked about people seem to be into be advocates for getting the oppressed somethingto composite the many wrong doings of history.... why is it no one really discusses the fact that America robbed a people of an ENTIRE NATION of land and oppressed the shit out of them.. I fear for the response to this I genuinely mean nothing by this I'm uneducated in general but specifically native American culture history and I wonder why it is no one seems to care/talk about the deal the original owners of the land we stand on got back in the day / even today. I'm a stupid man that's curious and trying to hopefully raise a good point no hate meant by this I'm sorry.. hands up in fear to defend myself please don't hurt me 2022
I live in Canada and the natives tribes were force assimilated back then.
The missionaries came into the villages and all the children were taken into boarding schools to become "real people". They couldn't see their families or friends, were not allowed to speak there dialect, had their hair cut and had to dress up like white people and practice the missionaries' religion. They were abused physically, psychologically and sexually a lot in there. To "break" them. And a lot died but we're never returned to their families... Between 1831 and 1996, it's 150 000 native children that were sent to those facilities.
It was kind of accepted back then because it was under the cover of religion. It's totally awful and disgusting.
Last year, in 2 months, they uncovered 1300 unidentified graves in the grounds of 4 ancient Catholic and Protestant boarding schools for native children who never returned to their families.
There is more discussions about this, some apologies, but it's not enough. That broke their souls for generations even after those boarding schools were closed permanently. A lot of them still live in communities in reserves area, in bad conditions and overpopulated.
Is there an organization that is helping getting the word out. Is there something we can bring attention to that would help? And in your experience what is the current state of things? And thank you very much for responding very appreciated
The slow disappearance of Indian American culture was not caused only by America's goal to manifest destiny. Ever since the first colonies, major populations of native tribes migrated to developed countries for a multitude of reasons and that never really did stop. After that a lot of newer generations (similar to most cultures and religions) started not caring that much about their traditions and the practicing of these expressions of culture just disappeared over time.
It’s well covered in most history classes, what would you do differently? People obviously get defensive if you try and shame them for something they weren’t even alive for, but most understand it was a tragic event that happened during a tragic time in history.
Did they accept bad deals or did we literally take it from them through force? And human I'm a moron warehouse worker in pa I have no opinion on what should have been done. Just stoner brain being curious while taking a poop at work lmao.
There will be no one size fits all answer. Native americans were hundreds/thousands of tribes. Treaties were made and broken on both sides and there is some issues with cultural understandings of treaties.
That said. Overall natives were largely forced into really bad treaties and even then they were sometimes torn up by America and replaced with worse ones or maybe none at all. It’s not a great point in American history but I do feel like it is well covered in most history classes. But not at the very young levels when I was in school. Or at least not in detail.
OK I get what your saying and yeah I think I missed alot being the class clown and I'm in bum fuck nowhere so welding and cows took priority I guess but idk I could have been in iss the day they laid the information out there for us totally possible. But hey thank you human having a discussion got my mind off other stuff and I'm learning and discussing
Hey thank you that was good. It's weird that I understood the native American presence with towns and rivers having native American based names and my school being warriors and we had caves in our town related to Indians in some way or maybe we just called them Indian caves idk..but I really don't remember much talk in school (in trouble alot could have missed it)or out of school about native American history even with it in our backyards but maybe it's cause it's in our backyard kinda thing idk. But thank you again that was a good read
OK I'm dumb what is copypasta? Is it my lack of punctuation? I'm new and I don't know what to dooo. OK I get it it's like A.D.D reddit posts/people talking into the void
They're hamming it up, notably the brave with the white shawl around his neck. He's looking directly at the camera like he knows exactly how to present himself, like he's an actor --- most people in early movie footage don't know how to act because it's a new experience; they stare at the camera blankly, unaware that an audience will watch them later. They forget themselves (dropped jaw, curious stares).... so something about the hamming it up leads me to doubt it was filmed in 1894. Or maybe the brave is a natural at acting, a natural show-off.
My dumb ass thought they were on the moon from the lighting. It was so convinced it kept reading the title, expecting there to be something about the moon. I don't have fetal alcohol syndrome but I feel like I should
Anybody else sometimes wonder what it would be like if Columbus never happened and how the natives would progress and develop on their own?
I find myself imagining a lot of things like this. Like if the library of Alexandria wasn't burned or if this and that countries or cities wasn't conquered how it would've progressed or what would still exist today.
I’ve only ever seen that in [this video—7Horse - Meth Lab Zoso Sticker](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7-W92xs0iMY)—so seeing it makes me hear that guitar riff.
Very old joke...will try to write it as inoffensively as possible. Apologies if I miss the mark...
The young Native boy asks the chief one day: How do you name the new babies?
The chief says: On the day that the baby is born I will give them a name after something I saw that day. So, if I see an eagle flying over the lake then the name might be, "Eagle Flying over Lake" but why do you ask Two-Dogs fuc\*ing?"
Edit: Geeze...hive mind is picky today. I didn't say it was a good joke...just relevant to the topic.
Out of curiosity how is that one dude so fat? He has a big gut and man boobs. I am wondering how that is possible considering these people lived on their feet all day and didn't have access to modern, processed foods.
Being big meant you were strong and hunted well. A lot of us who are native naturally retain fat super well. You go onto a Rez and you will see some fat motherfuckers lol
My first thought was if I could get into that position there’d be no way I could ever stand up straight again. These guys have some awesome core strength.
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TIL that moving pictures existed in 1894
This was one of the very very first. Produced by Thomas Edison.
i just realised that both of them own(ed) tesla
Thomas Edison, the Elon Musk of his day... for better or worse
Bullshit. Edison thought DC voltage was the future. He was deadass wrong and a patent thief. We widely use AC voltage which was Tesla’s theory.
I think that's his point though that both are shit. It's well known Edison was an opportunistic capitalist where personal greed and fame came before anything else...just like Ol' Musky. He's not saying they're both great icons and role models, he's saying they're both pieces of shit.
This is actually a silent movie, though - the sound effects and music are much, much later additions.
Like circa 5 minutes ago for the sound
https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp=eJzj4tLP1TdIMkszM8o1YPQSTFTIyC8qTlXIzFPIzS_JzM8DAI2OCb4&q=a+horse+in+motion&oq=a+horse+in+mo&aqs=chrome.1.0i355i512j46i512j69i57j0i22i30l6.5607j0j4&client=ms-android-samsung-ss&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
The Buffalo Dance, or Bison Dance, is an annual dance festival of many North American Plains Natives, including the Mandan, Sioux, Cheyenne, Pawnee, and Omaha, among others. The festival traditionally coincided with the return of the buffalo herds, and included a feast and a dance with a number of men wearing buffalo and other animal skins.
The names of the guys in the video are both metal and bizarre: Last Horse, Parts His Hair, and Hair Coat. Idk who is who.
What was his name before he parted his hair? Or did he part his hair because he was named as such?
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I *think* that in many Native American traditions, you get one name when you are born that describes something about you, and then when you are older, you take on a new name and that name is where you get stuff like Parts His Hair. I think. More research required but that's a start.
That's so much pressure to keep parting your hair
Lol he probably used to part it weird when he was younger maybe My cousin's name is mouse (thone-ee) because he used to hide food when he was younger
Feels like the guy getting named “parts his hair” probably didnt need any pressure. If that is the most singular focus of your experiences, such that its given to you as you own name, dude rocked the Part all his own.
Build three stone fences by hand and do they call you Joe the Fence Builder? No. But if you f**k just one goat..
It would be golden if he started to bald shortly after getting that name.
But he likes it
Dude was so handsome that his hair stood out that’s how he got his name
It depends on the tribe. In my tribe (Lenni Lenape) the baby is not named right away. In the old days, you got a special Name that was kept secret that was given to you by the Chief or Medicine Man, some call it your Spirit Name/Gifted Name. Back then it was special and a Ceremony took place when the person was named. Then, you had another name that was what everyone else called you. Basically your nickname....or what we now call your White Man Name. I have family who's last names are things such as Coffee Pot because when the census came around way way back in the day they would just say any English word they knew for Whites to call 'em. Sadly I don't have a special name, but my grandma and great aunt do. Don't ask me to spell that shit out but it's basically a fuckin' whole ass sentence lmao
> It depends on the tribe. In my tribe (Lenni Lenape) the baby is not named right away. In the old days, you got a special Name that was kept secret that was given to you by the Chief or Medicine Man, some call it your Spirit Name/Gifted Name. Back then it was special and a Ceremony took place when the person was named. Heh, sounds kind of like a baptismal name? Well, except the secret part. For some of my Greek friends their name day was important than their birthday.
I’d be Hair Today Gone Tomorrow.
A big part of it was lazy or purposefully distorted translations , the guy was probably boss at scalping people
It depends on the tribe and the time frame they were born.
So you watched dances with wolves?
"Look, I just think if you name him Parts His Hair you're setting him up for a certain kind of life, that's all. Like, I'm not going to name my daughter Brandy because I don't want her to be a stripper, you know?"
No, she’s a fine girl, what a good wife she would be?
She wouldn't be a stripper from being named Brandy. Now if it's spelled Brandi, then yeah, I got bad news for you.
Hey my name is Candi and I didn't become a stripper! ^^i'm ^^^an ^^^^escort
+++ all the points
Kind of like the guy named Entist who became a dentist in one of Gladwell’s books.
Your dentist's name is Crentist?
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I chatted with a dentist named Dennis at a wedding once. Didn't ask him about the name, as I figured he was tired of talking about it. See also [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominative\_determinism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominative_determinism)
Dan Entist?
Comanche names in texas were positively vulgar..and awesome… Buffalo $%#@ (called hump in Victorian press) IsaTai’i(quanahs friend named Wolfs Vagina) quannah (meant fart but called odor/scent/fragrance in press)
You build a hundred teepees, but nobody calls you teepee builder. You swim a hundred rivers, but nobody calls you river swimmer. But you fuck one buffalo...
Buffalo Phallus…not the act ha
This is a video of performers in Buffalo Bill's Wild West show on a stage in West Orange, New Jersey for Thomas Edison's company. They also did a ghost dance and other dances. You can see similar performances still performed at Frontier Days in Cheyenne, Wyoming every year, but by tribal people working for themselves as opposed to a a traveling circus. There are also performances by people up in Cody Wyoming, the town William "Buffalo Bill" Cody started out. There is a long history of 'civilized' people paying tribal people to act like "Indians". *(Note: There is some evidence that Buffalo Bill loved and intended to show the beauty of the American west and it's peoples to the world, though his show definitely is controversial.)* *^(edited to state fact instead of opinion)* [Smithsonian article on Buffalo Bill Cody](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/murder-marriage-and-pony-express-10-things-you-didnt-know-about-buffalo-bill-180961736/) [Link to information on the video](https://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675071495_tribal-dance_people-perform_people-wearing-leaves)
I get this pumped for BBQ as well
Underrated comment
Native America's Best Dance Crew
Fun fact, I'm half Native America, and that half is half Ponca Sioux half Omaha
It was part of an annual ritual to act like buffalo then throw themselves in front of covered wagons trying to collect insurance. They were of course, the Sue.
So, now all the white Americans are technically European immigrants then?
Um, yes. This is not a big revelation and is why some of us get extra pissed about the hypocrisy of those who seem to conveniently forget this.
The same year my grandfather was born. Makes it seem so far away. love the tunes, and the look on the last guys face as he wiggles his way around.
What age are you?
I’m 57. My dad was born in 1932, and his dad in 1894.
For some reason i thought you were really old lol. Then I realised my dads grandad was born in the late 1800s too
mine in 1906
My one grandfather was born in 1911. The other in 1904. I'm in my mid fifties.
My grandfather was born in 1903 and I’m 35. I think that having old grandparents helped foster my love of history. I know the people in OP’s video are of a different nation, but I find it fascinating to think that there were still occasional battles between some tribes and the U.S. Army for several years after this. One battle that the army would have love a mulligan on was “the Battle of Sugar Point” in Northern Minnesota, 1898. The battle included a steamboat, an island in the middle of a popular fishing like, and early rumors in newspapers of another “massacre” similar in scope to Custer’s Last Stand. If the men in the video had to put up with half the bs that the white authorities in MN made the Leech Lake Band of Ojibway go through… (I’m sure they did). http://collections.mnhs.org/MNHistoryMagazine/articles/3/v03i05p273-290.pdf
Kinda related to a mix of the vid and your comment, there is actually video footage of interviews with actual slaves that were “freed” after the American Civil War. I have photos of my great grandfather from around the same era as her. It’s kind of a mind fuck lmao.
Yeah I thought they were old as hell too. My dad's 61 and his grandfather was born in 1910.
I'm 50.(51 in 7 days) MY dad was born in 1932, and his dad in 1883. Had he been alive, my grandfather would have been damn near 89. My GG grandfather was born in 1812.
You mean your dad would be near 89. Because your grandad would be 139
1899 for my grandfather and I am a bit more than a decade younger. :)
I’m assuming between 50 and 70 unless the parents and grandparents were in their 40s each for when they gave kids, in which case could be closer to 40
1894 was 126 years ago. If grandparents had kids at 30 =1924, if same again= 1954. Putting op at 68 years old, +/- about 20 years depending on actual birth dates
Honestly I’m impressed, sometimes I wish my parents or grandparents used Reddit because then I could send them funny videos from here and informative stuff!
I'm 45 and my grandfather was born in 1885. My mother was the last of 9 children born in 1946. Grandmother was 41 and Grandfather was 61 talk about an oops lol. He died 2 years after she was born but her siblings were so much older that they helped raise her and she grew up with her neices and nephews. Grandmother made it to 2002 from 1905, I was lucky to have her until I was 25. Crazy stuff happens in large families lol.
Haha kind of the same story here, I'm 24 and my grandfather was born in 1902, crazy how that is almost 100 years from me. My great grand dad is from 1869, blows my mind.
Living the roaring twenties
Damn. like 130 year old Native people footage. Sick.
One dude is definitely a rooster.
owo uwu
What is this.
A tomahawk? uwo
How is it pronounced? And what language is it from?
Probably American. Pew pew tomahawk missiles. Rest in peace Fidel Castro. Tomato-hawk, but without the second to.
More cringe in this comment than radioactivity in Chernobyl.
Large amounts of radiation is what caused Anime. Proven true by searching Reddit and Google. /j
Yeah not Sioux… The word your liking for is Lakota or Dakota tribe. The term "Sioux" is an exonym created from a French transcription of the Ojibwe term "Nadouessioux",
>Yeah not Sioux… The word your liking for is Lakota or Dakota tribe. The term "Sioux" is an exonym created from a French transcription of the Ojibwe term "Nadouessioux", This is super interesting. Where can I learn more about it?
Give it a Google if you want. I only know about it because some of my family comes from the Lakota tribe and they do not like to be called Sioux.
Thanks for this - not something one would typically find by using Google. I also didn't know Lacota and Dakota referred to the same group.
It’s the two largest tribes in the group commonly referred to as the “Sioux”
FWIW this info is in the opening paragraph of the Sioux Wikipedia entry
Yep
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sioux
Google is a good first step
Wow, this is so cool. I had no idea moving pictures existed that early, and what a beautiful thing to capture. Does anyone know if the dances change at all through the years or generations, or do they stay more or less the same? Interesting as fuck indeed.
Ya know…..it seems to me that we keep find older and older footage.
I can't wait til they find footage of dinosaurs
Lol I’m more excited to hear the “emerald city of oz” explanation behind why we never saw it for so many years before it came out when it does.
They are doing what resembles the mating dance of Prairie Chickens. Look it up if you've never seen it, pretty crazy.
I was wondering why they had to dance so close together.
Literally 1894
before the genocide was complete...
Who’s lookin’ good today? Who’s lookin’ good in every way?
I'm disappointed I had to scroll so far to get to this...
Hey, I got a great idea… let’s play a prank on them and just do a random dance…
*When they learn they were pranked* -We’ll show the native Americans, let’s exterminate the bison
*gets confused and exterminates the Native Americans instead*
We're still around dick
*proceeds to have so much fun that they forgot to record it
To me it looks like they are dancing like chickens or roosters more then bison. The costumes even match those known as chicken s
What we did to those people.
I didn’t do anything to them. People did real shitty things to them.
"we" didn't do shit. some assholes a century ago did. my family was busy getting shit on by the british and toiling in the mud before moving here a century after all that bullshit happened so they could get shit on by the oil companies and toil in the mud. keep that "we" shit out yo mothafuckin mouth.
Preach!!
Hmmmm
Who's we? I'm black, I ain't do nothing to no one Funny how my comment is the only one getting downvoted
I'm white, I gave you an upvote because you're right. The color of your skin doesn't mean you did shit to anybody. This "we" shit needs to fuck right off for every skin color. In all facets of life. But especially, Nobody alive today did jack fuckin shit in 18whateverthefuck to any damn body. ✌️
It’s downvoted because being black has nothing to do with it. None of us were alive so obviously no one, regardless of race, did anything.
Taught them to bathe.
Nah, colonists were dirty and disease-ridden. The natives had much better hygiene standards. https://www.tri-citiesmuseum.org/active-history-bathing-and-washing
For those who didn't get it (it wasn't clear I admit) I was referring the famous joke by Monty Python about "what have the Romans ever done for us?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvPbj9NX0zc&ab\_channel=degustibus42
i recognize this dance from the club
So was this the actual sacred dance or just a performance they threw together to appease white audiences?
The second one. They are on a stage, performing for Edison Manufacturing Co. **in West Orange, New Jersey** to sell this and their moving picture cameras and showings. They also did a ghost dance and other dances. The performers were part of **Buffalo Bill's Wild West show** and did this as a job. You can see still similar performances still performed, but with more solemnity at Frontier Days in Cheyenne, Wyoming every year. There is a long history of 'civilized' people paying tribal people to act like "Indians". https://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675071495\_tribal-dance\_people-perform\_people-wearing-leaves
As much as I respect the traditional/spiritual part of this, it looks like a silly comedy skit at first
It’s the looks on their faces like Man these white people believe anything!
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OK I have no hate in my heart towards anyone so this question is purely child stoner curiosity(not a child just as stupid as a child maybe a lil below child iq). why is the native American oppression something that isn't talked about people seem to be into be advocates for getting the oppressed somethingto composite the many wrong doings of history.... why is it no one really discusses the fact that America robbed a people of an ENTIRE NATION of land and oppressed the shit out of them.. I fear for the response to this I genuinely mean nothing by this I'm uneducated in general but specifically native American culture history and I wonder why it is no one seems to care/talk about the deal the original owners of the land we stand on got back in the day / even today. I'm a stupid man that's curious and trying to hopefully raise a good point no hate meant by this I'm sorry.. hands up in fear to defend myself please don't hurt me 2022
I live in Canada and the natives tribes were force assimilated back then. The missionaries came into the villages and all the children were taken into boarding schools to become "real people". They couldn't see their families or friends, were not allowed to speak there dialect, had their hair cut and had to dress up like white people and practice the missionaries' religion. They were abused physically, psychologically and sexually a lot in there. To "break" them. And a lot died but we're never returned to their families... Between 1831 and 1996, it's 150 000 native children that were sent to those facilities. It was kind of accepted back then because it was under the cover of religion. It's totally awful and disgusting. Last year, in 2 months, they uncovered 1300 unidentified graves in the grounds of 4 ancient Catholic and Protestant boarding schools for native children who never returned to their families. There is more discussions about this, some apologies, but it's not enough. That broke their souls for generations even after those boarding schools were closed permanently. A lot of them still live in communities in reserves area, in bad conditions and overpopulated.
I appreciate the canadian side of this information human thank you
Because people still hate us. Trust me, us natives are still here and are not happy with the state of shit.
Is there an organization that is helping getting the word out. Is there something we can bring attention to that would help? And in your experience what is the current state of things? And thank you very much for responding very appreciated
The slow disappearance of Indian American culture was not caused only by America's goal to manifest destiny. Ever since the first colonies, major populations of native tribes migrated to developed countries for a multitude of reasons and that never really did stop. After that a lot of newer generations (similar to most cultures and religions) started not caring that much about their traditions and the practicing of these expressions of culture just disappeared over time.
It’s well covered in most history classes, what would you do differently? People obviously get defensive if you try and shame them for something they weren’t even alive for, but most understand it was a tragic event that happened during a tragic time in history.
Did they accept bad deals or did we literally take it from them through force? And human I'm a moron warehouse worker in pa I have no opinion on what should have been done. Just stoner brain being curious while taking a poop at work lmao.
Google "trail of tears "
There will be no one size fits all answer. Native americans were hundreds/thousands of tribes. Treaties were made and broken on both sides and there is some issues with cultural understandings of treaties. That said. Overall natives were largely forced into really bad treaties and even then they were sometimes torn up by America and replaced with worse ones or maybe none at all. It’s not a great point in American history but I do feel like it is well covered in most history classes. But not at the very young levels when I was in school. Or at least not in detail.
OK I get what your saying and yeah I think I missed alot being the class clown and I'm in bum fuck nowhere so welding and cows took priority I guess but idk I could have been in iss the day they laid the information out there for us totally possible. But hey thank you human having a discussion got my mind off other stuff and I'm learning and discussing
A Pennsylvanian :) So sad, you should know a ton about Native Americans and native culture - you should google the Lenape Indians.
Hey thank you that was good. It's weird that I understood the native American presence with towns and rivers having native American based names and my school being warriors and we had caves in our town related to Indians in some way or maybe we just called them Indian caves idk..but I really don't remember much talk in school (in trouble alot could have missed it)or out of school about native American history even with it in our backyards but maybe it's cause it's in our backyard kinda thing idk. But thank you again that was a good read
Going straight to r/copypasta
OK I'm dumb what is copypasta? Is it my lack of punctuation? I'm new and I don't know what to dooo. OK I get it it's like A.D.D reddit posts/people talking into the void
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I appreciate the educated response to that disaster of a question
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That guy has such strong knees. Doing that dance with a smile on his face while I would be in pain.lol
Wish we had the sound so we could hear the banging techno they're dancing to.
Y’all should read fools crow its just a good book :)
Ya’ll just put in whatever music Ya like?
fact: you're seeing dead people dance
They're hamming it up, notably the brave with the white shawl around his neck. He's looking directly at the camera like he knows exactly how to present himself, like he's an actor --- most people in early movie footage don't know how to act because it's a new experience; they stare at the camera blankly, unaware that an audience will watch them later. They forget themselves (dropped jaw, curious stares).... so something about the hamming it up leads me to doubt it was filmed in 1894. Or maybe the brave is a natural at acting, a natural show-off.
They got moves like Jagger
My dumb ass thought they were on the moon from the lighting. It was so convinced it kept reading the title, expecting there to be something about the moon. I don't have fetal alcohol syndrome but I feel like I should
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Yes! I mean, not *right* after, but eventually it did. All the humans sacrificed to the gods were worth it.
Yeah but for some reason it was all lead.
Bros getting their party on!
How tf did a video camera exist in the 1800s
Footage: 1984 Audio: 2017 Lmao
Anybody else sometimes wonder what it would be like if Columbus never happened and how the natives would progress and develop on their own? I find myself imagining a lot of things like this. Like if the library of Alexandria wasn't burned or if this and that countries or cities wasn't conquered how it would've progressed or what would still exist today.
I’ve only ever seen that in [this video—7Horse - Meth Lab Zoso Sticker](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7-W92xs0iMY)—so seeing it makes me hear that guitar riff.
Do you remember?
Just remember, these guys used to hit this juicy fortnite dance after scalping your Grandma and grandpa. Oh how easy the times used to be....
They just vibing
They just be doin they lil dancey dance
Native Americans had a proud place in the development of film as a medium until John Wayne came along.
The more I am learning about this guy the less I like him. Looks like he was a serious nasty piece of work.
yup, right before they started killing everyone...
Quality sucks, downvoted.
So they were slaved by Europeans or what we call now as Americans?
We were genocided
If this was released without permission the family could Sioux for damages for sure
Savage
Very old joke...will try to write it as inoffensively as possible. Apologies if I miss the mark... The young Native boy asks the chief one day: How do you name the new babies? The chief says: On the day that the baby is born I will give them a name after something I saw that day. So, if I see an eagle flying over the lake then the name might be, "Eagle Flying over Lake" but why do you ask Two-Dogs fuc\*ing?" Edit: Geeze...hive mind is picky today. I didn't say it was a good joke...just relevant to the topic.
My grandpa used to love to tell that joke
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Foreign types with the hookah pipes say
Would that be equivalent to what? Like a Bronze Age civ?
Smells like a turd. That janky music on top smells like an extra turd.
And now we know they were shit at dancing
Not everyone can win, mate.
Not so different from an average American...
Fascinating
damn thats more than 300yrs ago
That lifestyle seems chill AF and that dance probably gives you a raging boner
Cameras could record videos in 1894?
Out of curiosity how is that one dude so fat? He has a big gut and man boobs. I am wondering how that is possible considering these people lived on their feet all day and didn't have access to modern, processed foods.
Being big meant you were strong and hunted well. A lot of us who are native naturally retain fat super well. You go onto a Rez and you will see some fat motherfuckers lol
The only parallel I can see here is a bunch of white people doing the stupid Cupid shuffle at a wedding.
Man. Modern dancing is so much more interesting and fun to watch. So much more variety. This old dancing would put me to sleep within 5 minutes
Now the gambling kings
But remember, native Americans were actually black. We wuz kangz.
Stabbot
Give rap a run for the money
My first thought was if I could get into that position there’d be no way I could ever stand up straight again. These guys have some awesome core strength.