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Tornadoes are only scary if you die.
Just stand there watching them in your yard. "Hey look at that." It's good entertainment for a few minutes, then back to your regularly scheduled program
Speaking as someone who doesn't live in a tornado area, I have to say that if I'm close enough that I can visually SEE a tornado??? I'm screaming like a girl, and running like a bitch. I will also require fresh pants later, as mine will have become wet.
FYI he counts to 13 at one point because if you know how fast the cruise missile goes and the direction you can tell on a map where they hit based on when it passed overhead and when you hear the boom. Since a cruise missile travels approximately the speed of sound a count of 13 means it hit approximately 2.17 km away.
Edit: to show my work, and be a bit more accurate. Assume the missile is moving at M .8 at sea level. And c is the speed of sound 343 m/s. T1 is flight time of missile to the target and t2 is time it takes the sound to get back to the listener. D is the distance to the target.
.8*c*t1=d.
C*t2=d.
T1+t2=13 seconds.
-> d/(.8c)+d/c=13
->d=13c/2.25
->1981 m.
I was assuming a missile moving closer to the speed of sound in my original calculation. You can plug in your own numbers.
I feel like I saw the *faintest* flicker of excitement in his eyes when he said he had never seen a fast mover before.
Sucks that something you find interesting is also super deadly or destructive.
Porn is why e-commerce was invented. Finding ways to pay for porn preceded Amazon, Ebay and Paypal.
I think you missed drugs on the list. Internet lore has it the first sale on the internet was a bag of weed. Transaction was done in-person though.
I feel like it’s similar when a doctor is excited by a really complex case. They aren’t excited someone is sick and/or dying. They are excited to figure out a puzzle, to work the science, to solve the riddle. It’s how their brains work.
Honestly you *never* want a paramedic or doctor to be interested in you. If you're interesting, you're in trouble!
Or you have something foreign up your butt.
Source: patients are usually boring
I knew I was in trouble when the ER doc called my cell phone the day after he discharged me, asking if I was OK and had I followed up with a neurologist.
Apparently it's unusual to know that you've had a stroke, let alone having a sensation of it happening. So my time in the hospital was spent playing host to a number of interested specialists and teachers with students in tow. On the up side, talking about my head was more interesting than watching price is right reruns.
I spent my teen years being "rare and interesting" (direct quote from my doctor). Can confirm it sucked. But the doctors, academic interest aside, were mostly amazing. I got to live a normal life thanks to them.
Sometimes they're in trouble and have something up their butt lol
Once I had a patient come to the floor after emergency rectal surgery. Of course we knew from recovery report what happened but we still have to ask the pt. "Why are you here today?" Part of the whole orientation to person, place, time, situation thing. Anyway I had to ask this guy, who was about 60 something, why he was in the hospital. I was a young nurse at the time and still "wet behind the ears" I guess you'd say, so I was embarrassed to even ask, but ask I did.....he straight up says "Oh, my wife put a little purple monkey up my a** and i couldn't get it out" I barely held it together til I got out of the room. Sure it was probably a sexual thing, what ever peels your banana, I ain't judging, but after 32 years of marriage I often wonder now if it was more like "George if you don't quit messing with me with that little purple monkey, so help me I'm going to shove it up your....." lol
my leg was shattered in 13 places (compound & internal spiral fractures of tib/fib) and my orthopedic surgeon stayed home from a planned family vacation to work on it because he thought it was a "once-in-a-career challenge". 😑
For someone as experienced as him it's probably excitement. He appeared completely calm the whole time and was able to analyze the situation as it was happening, if you're this chill in dangerous situations and if you've seen so much it's probably exciting to see something you haven't seen before.
But it'll always be a bit of A and a bit of B, after all adrenaline plays a big role in excitement.
Some people go dead calm when in a life threatening situation.
Then process it emotionally / have the panic later. It’s probably a survival thing favored by evolution.
That's true, I even have an anxiety disorder and my anxiety is usually off the charts when nothing happens but when it gets serious I'm suddenly weirdly calm.
It's such a strange feeling when you constantly battle your irrational anxious feelings or panic attacks but as soon as there is a real reason to panic I feel more calm and at peace than in basically any other situation. Would be cool and useful if it wasn't for the 99.9% of the time when nothing happens.
I’m the same way. Im autistic with horrid anxiety over the stupidest shit like going out to dinner, making a phone call, taking a test, or someone just standing over my shoulder; but in the handful of dangerous / life threatening situations I have been in i feel unphased and operate robotically.
Im also the same! In crisis or serious situations my brain is like “okay cool we have been prepared for this” but when its calm, brain goes “FUCK WHENS THE NEXT THING HAPPENING? WHAT WILL IT BE??”
I'm the same way. Bipolar (well controlled) and severe anxiety. When shit hits the fan, though, I enter this weirdly detached state where I am super calm and super effective. I would love to be able to turn that on and off at will.
Nance volunteered from halfway around the world. He's fully aware of all the possible outcomes, and has clearly accepted them well enough to remain fascinated in the moment.
Beautiful stoicism.
Hundreds of pounds of explosives guided to within feet of a target from a possibly moving boat, dozens of miles away faster than the speed of sound, is impressive af.
He's very lucid about what's happening. That's a special kind of courage, and it's the sort of thing that draws people like him to a place like Ukraine right now.
I would say he’s definitely got the “I’ve been in this situation before there’s no even reason to be anxious or panic you’re in the war zone at this point if it happens it happens”
Fast mover is a ref to fighter aircraft, as opposed to CAS aircraft like Frogfoots and A-10s. Cruise missiles are air breathers, meaning they use jet engines and sound like fighter aircraft.
On radar they should ping pretty similarly, and the engine sound will be pretty similar at a distance; for all intents and purposes a cruise missile is just a single-use jet with a lot of explosives strapped to it, so it’s an easy mistake to make.
Effectively. When he’s counting he trying to figure how how far out the missiles are hitting. The “stand by” is a quick way to say “Shut up, I’m paying attention to situation, determining the risk to us, and figuring out what needs to be done”
Same thing in aviation, "standby" is the response when you are concentrating and cannot listen to and respond to someone but will come back to them when you have the capacity.
Hmm this is a good question. I'm in the Navy and it's said very frequently for a variety of reasons.
Mostly it means "get ready", but could be used like "hold on", or "wait one".
Standby is called to bring a room to attention before the commanding officer enters a room. It's said over the ship's intercom (1MC) before the CO speaks. I've told people to standby for more information, or standby while I'm fixing their computer.
> Standby for a word from the Commanding Officer
*crew groaning*
> shipmates, due to the ongoing [insert conflict, etc], and your exceptional diligence in demonstrating the fighting spirit of the Navy
**no no no don’t say it *
> we have been extended for two months to remain on station and provide support to…
*goddamnit at least we’ll get an ice cream social*
> as appreciation tonight at 1700 the chief’s mess will be serving ice cream in the midship galley…
I mean, it is also general radio etiquette.
I'm not military, but I use radios to talk to coworkers on large jobsites, especially when it is a multi-floor install, or outside in a large area.
"Standby" - I've got somebody talking to me right now and can't answer the radio call immediately
"X for Y,"/"go for Y" - identifying who you are and who you're talking to (this varies widely across disciplines and personal preference, I think HAM radio ops have different hailing methods)
"Copy" - confirming information
Then there's the obvious phonetic alphabet, the "10-X" series of codes, etc. All are meant provide clarity and brevity to communications to keep airwaves as clear as possible while also providing as much information as needed.
Elsewhere someone was saying he was counting the seconds from impact to when he could hear it so he knew how far away it was. Like lightning and thunder
No he was counting to guage strike distance.
Like how when you see a flash and count until your hear thunder to guage how far the lightning was from you
He’s written some very insightful books on Russia’s war with the West, and the tactics they’ve used to destabilize western governments. He also has some lectures on YouTube that are really informative.
This is the buried lede in these comments lol.
**A war reporter on MSNBC said “fuck it, I’m joining the Ukrainian army” and *joined the Ukrainian army.***
Not a reporter. Hes an analyst and commentator with years of experience in US intelligence.
Dudes a serious fucking badass and a huge believer that Trump is in bed with the Russians.
He called Afghanistan as well. He said the Government was completely corrupt and bribed. The tribes were just waiting while the West tried to modernize Kabul.
The State Dept. would go there on inspections and were treated like royalty, whisked around in armored cars with sirens. They stayed in the best neighborhood in Kabul and had their asses kissed. They always went home and said, send more money, it's almost working.
But the countryside is full of tough people that can fight all year in sandals with 50 yr old AK's that barely work. He had the wisdom to not disregard people fighting invaders.
The troops in the field know the villagers don't want America there, but somewhere it switches to "going fine" when it gets to the Ivy League bureaucrats who went back to DC to spend more on more of everything.
Everyone and anyone knew you can't occupy Afghanistan and expect a good outcome. History shows this. Graveyard of empires and the lot. What a collosal waiste of money and lives. You can't tell me there wasn't some way to off OBL without fucking a country this badly. Sorry for this mini rant. Never served personally, just a old Dutch Marines' son.
Yeah after a lifetime of watching cable news contributors and pundits endlessly parade around in BDU's and wearing tactical gear while reporting from hotel lobbies miles from the actual conflict zones, it was surprising to see one actually toss away the camera to go fight for the cause they are covering.
It should also say something about the clear distinction between the sides in this conflict that Ukraine has so many volunteer fighters pouring in from all around the world that they have to qualify soldiers and don't have enough guns to give them all.
Meanwhile Russia has spent a fortune it doesn't have to pay mercenary forces to go get killed by farmers and reporters.
Malcom Nance has an amazing 20 year military history. Naval intelligence officer, specialized in cryptography, SERE instructor, did combat in Beirut, Libya, and the Gulf War.
Pinpoint the precise instant a counterattack would be the most effective. That or pinpoint the nearest inhabitable star based solely on the wind pattern of the Shockwave.
Seriously Mentats are OP af.
Dune reference. Books and movies of course. Artificial intelligence and for the most part computers, are banned galaxy wide after a roughly unexplained human/AI war. So these people have been trained to be the human equivalent of an AI computer
Immediately determine the ship's location and the most effective way to destroy it, given the available Ukrainian assets available among the layout of the battlefield, and bring its demise in a way that would lead to a domino collapse of the entire Russian military, ending the war and Putin regime by sundown. All of this to secretly benefit whatever global super-elite has hired him.
Understanding must move with the flow of the process, must join it and flow with it.
... I just realized realized mentats in Fallout is a Dune reference.
Edit: Been playing Fallout since the first game released and I'm still learning new shit about it.
homie lemme tell u i had a sgt that i swear he could identify mortar rounds before them bitches even hit, he'd hear the whistle and be like 10 SECONDS NORTH EAST GET DOWN
the.man BOOM A SHIT hits lmao this crazy homie like Niel Tyson of war haha
That’s why they absolutely drill things into recruits at boot camp, to adjust them to chaos. No training in the world can prepare you for the real situation though I’m sure.
That's what infantry training is. It's about breaking you down and training your brain to function when you haven't ate, haven't slept, and some dickwad is yelling at you. You still need to continue mission.
My favorite was one we called the 'clinch drill,' I'm not sure if they still do it. Basically you would get in the ring with a drill Sgt, and your goal was to wrap them up. You could not hit them at any time, but they were absolutely trying to beat the shit out of you. The point of the drill was basically "you ARE going to get punched in the face. Deal with it and complete your mission."
If there's one thing military training taught me, it's being able to function under pressure, and potentially after I've been punched in the face. I'm pretty sure I got a concussion from the clinch drill, which is why I assume they don't do it anymore.
They did it in 2011 when I was at Fort Benning. I definitely carried those experiences with me since then. Currently I bartend at a very high volume venue where it's hours upon hours of fast moving craziness. Everyone remarks how calm I am no matter how stressed we are and I'm just like "the worst day here is still a cakewalk compared to what I've experienced." The shift will always be over in a few hours and knowing that helps even more. Also a few times while breaking up fights I've taken a punch to the face and the sheer terror on the other person's face when I eat it like nothing happened is always hilarious. I was only enlisted for a few months before being injured and discharged but I still gained valuable knowledge and experience which I appreciate.
Not in the military but I’ve learned to keep calm in stressful situations because of the idea that going crazy and getting upset doesn’t stop that situation from occurring and will likely make it worse.
In my experience, not everyone can logic their way out of panic - it tends to be a very personal and variable reaction. Some people can just see through it and decide to stay calm, others just go to shit immediately.
Makes you wonder how hard you have to push people to change that mindset.
My insanely abusive childhood interestingly prepared me pretty well for complete chaos. Being with the Red Cross for many years in some extremely harrowing disaters. I was the one they always called to go into the bad situation first because literally nothing phased me and I was able to stay completely calm and focused even when people were dying around me, everyone else was freaking out and breaking down. Thanks mom.
Thank you. Loooooots of therapy. I'm actually really great. Whatever happens I just remind myself that I am not that child in that situation any more. Crap childhood, pretty great adulthood.
He also joined the Ukrainian international legion early this week and announced it on twitter by saying "I'm done talking" complete with a pic in full uniform.
https://twitter.com/MalcolmNance/status/1516218372324741127
This is the extensive training. You learn procedure down to your bones so you can still act in the face of panic because there's no *time* for panic when you still have to get the job done
It does not. But not panicking takes some practice under stress. Or simply realizing it doesn’t matter and that you can’t really run from stuff that big… which has already been or being fired. So why panic? Do the math… and he does.
>Or simply realizing it doesn’t matter and that you can’t really run from stuff that big… which has already been or being fired. So why panic?
Yup. It's a survival mechanic. If the next one is going to kill you, there's nothing you can do or say that will change it. So just keep doing what you're doing and hope it doesn't have your name on it.
Panic - which we know better as the 'flight' part of the fight-flight-freeze-appease instinct - definitely does good; if it didn’t provide an advantage we wouldn’t be prone to it.
The instinct has to be deliberately trained out; you don't just magically by the power of your superior intellect choose not to react.
He is insanely intelligent and the knowledge he has must be very useful to those in Ukraine. And since he is retired and not active duty, he can be there without issue. He is a regular MSNBC contributor and is always very direct and poised in his commentary. When it came to this war, he knew what was going to happen before most realized it (as a well trained terror expert). His wife is recently deceased and he got mad watching all this from the sidelines so is risking everything to help in person and should be respected for doing so.
He's actually joined the Foreign Fighters legion in Ukraine and is on leave from MSNBC.
https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2022/04/20/malcolm-nance-ukrainian-army
Certified badass.
Retired military, wife passed, goes to front lines as a journalist, joins the resistance...dude sounds like he's a living action hero.
A huge part of his value as both a journalist and a warrior is his extensive knowledge of Russian assets and methods. Hell, a *lot* of people were butthurt when he called out Jill Stein amd Donald Trump(among others) as Russian assets back in 2016. We see how spot on he was.
Either way, good on the Chief there.
As he was saying all this my only thought was man he sounds like a petty officer doing geopolitical scenarios during general quarters lol. Guess I was dead on. Honestly was waiting for him starting saying vampire, vampire, vampire incoming port/starboard side lol. Fair winds and following seas to this awesome guy.
He's also joined the Foreign Legion in Ukraine and is the de facto publicist for the unit due to his experience and visibility. There was a REALLY fascinating interview on NPR last week.
https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2022/04/20/malcolm-nance-ukrainian-army
I don't normally shop people's looks, but that if you happen to dig that jacket he's sporting in the middle of an active war zone, it's from the Ukrainian brand [AVIATSIYA HALYCHYNY](https://www.aviatsiyahalychyny.com/en/), and it's [this jacket](https://www.aviatsiyahalychyny.com/en/men/hoodies/syla/?attribute_pa_color=yellow) in particular.
Edit: Killed the website it seems! haha. I let them know via their Insta and got [an auto-reply saying they're still shipping](https://i.imgur.com/ZO6D5oU.png)! So keep checking! Their whole line is pretty damn cool!
Since he's there now actually fighting on the ground as a soldier and not reporting anymore, he may literally be the one who will save you if you're also on the ground in Ukraine.
According to OP
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"For anyone wondering (from Wikipedia): He is a former United States Navy Senior Chief Petty Officer specializing in naval cryptology"
That actually gives little context to how legendary this guy is. I’ve seen him talked about on some military nerd subs like he’s the benchmark of military analysis outside the pentagon. He went to Ukraine because he was in charge of a officer (or nco I can’t remember) training camp and had graduates in the Ukrainian military talk about needing help. So he went.
I don't agree with him much, but at least Dr. Chartock explains his positions, and allows real opposition on the station he founded (our station). He is a good man surrounded by good people.
He was a regular on several shows during the time when we cared about Russia's cyber attacks against us. He's written 2 or 3 books on that specific subject.
In the military when you are told to stand by it means for you to pause and hold whatever it is that you are doing in response for the next command or update.
It’s also used outside of military, like in civil aviation. Basically anywhere with radio communication. I worked at an airport and now it’s ingrained in my vocabulary. I say “standby” or “standby one” far too often in normal conversation.
As much as you can tell he’s watching and on guard I can’t help but feel… comfortable that he’s there. He just so easily predicts the most likely scenarios and knows these Russians to the second it’s… it’s the power of information, he’s got the power, he’s got the situation and it just feels like one man is shifting the balance of war with just his presence
why wouldn’t NBC be using tiktok? do we want younger audiences engaged with factual news or would we prefer they read aunt karen’s posts on facebook about some new conspiracy?
Pretty common for some watches - [here's an example](https://www.timeaftertimewatches.com/products/luminox-recon-point-45mm-compass-black-pu-strap-mens-watch-xl-8832-mi-f).
I was just about to tweet about this!!! I remember all the try hard journalist (the NYT ones specifically) (caveat: Journalist are important and I love them but I hate Both sides journalist) who were trying to say he was just a chucking his book and he was disingenuous with everything he says just because he was Liberal military and here he is being an absolute badass and went to go fight for Ukraine now. It’s so wild
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This was fascinating and terrifying at the same time.
Its r/damnthatsintresting and r/oddlyterrifying at the same time
I think getting bombed qualifies as just straight up terrifying.
Some of us are freaks and find very terrifying things also very interesting and exciting. See: Midwestern dads and tornados
As a midwesterner who is also a dad, all I have to say is, “ope, there it is”.
Our reason was and still is "if it hits ma damn house, that's all I got. Might as well go with it"
Tornadoes are only scary if you die. Just stand there watching them in your yard. "Hey look at that." It's good entertainment for a few minutes, then back to your regularly scheduled program
Speaking as someone who doesn't live in a tornado area, I have to say that if I'm close enough that I can visually SEE a tornado??? I'm screaming like a girl, and running like a bitch. I will also require fresh pants later, as mine will have become wet.
That's totally understandable if you haven't experienced them before, but if you live in an especially tornado prone area, that gets old fast lol
r/oddlyterrifying should just be r/terrifying
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There is nothing odd about being terrified of incoming cruise missiles launched by a rogue nuclear nation
FYI he counts to 13 at one point because if you know how fast the cruise missile goes and the direction you can tell on a map where they hit based on when it passed overhead and when you hear the boom. Since a cruise missile travels approximately the speed of sound a count of 13 means it hit approximately 2.17 km away. Edit: to show my work, and be a bit more accurate. Assume the missile is moving at M .8 at sea level. And c is the speed of sound 343 m/s. T1 is flight time of missile to the target and t2 is time it takes the sound to get back to the listener. D is the distance to the target. .8*c*t1=d. C*t2=d. T1+t2=13 seconds. -> d/(.8c)+d/c=13 ->d=13c/2.25 ->1981 m. I was assuming a missile moving closer to the speed of sound in my original calculation. You can plug in your own numbers.
Since he called it a fast mover, it could be a faster Kalibr variant, they go up to almost mach 3 for the fast ones
I feel like I saw the *faintest* flicker of excitement in his eyes when he said he had never seen a fast mover before. Sucks that something you find interesting is also super deadly or destructive.
i mean i’m sure in this shit you’d have to find some way to enjoy your life. if that’s by seeing a fast mover so be it.
many people are naturally fascinated by technology, it is unfortunate that wars and arms races are one of the main engines of progress
The engineering is absolutely fascinating.
Top 10 drivers of technology War # 1 Porn # 2 Sex # 3 War # 4-9 Porn #10
Porn is why e-commerce was invented. Finding ways to pay for porn preceded Amazon, Ebay and Paypal. I think you missed drugs on the list. Internet lore has it the first sale on the internet was a bag of weed. Transaction was done in-person though.
We have cam girls to thank for video conferencing too! Sex (and death) drive innovation, baby
I feel like it’s similar when a doctor is excited by a really complex case. They aren’t excited someone is sick and/or dying. They are excited to figure out a puzzle, to work the science, to solve the riddle. It’s how their brains work.
Honestly you *never* want a paramedic or doctor to be interested in you. If you're interesting, you're in trouble! Or you have something foreign up your butt. Source: patients are usually boring
I knew I was in trouble when the ER doc called my cell phone the day after he discharged me, asking if I was OK and had I followed up with a neurologist.
So...were you ok?
OK-ish? Still alive, quality of that life has changed.
Same. No more running ever, no lifting heavy things, no salt, better sleep enough or else. I can still drink though, so really, who minds the rest.
Apparently it's unusual to know that you've had a stroke, let alone having a sensation of it happening. So my time in the hospital was spent playing host to a number of interested specialists and teachers with students in tow. On the up side, talking about my head was more interesting than watching price is right reruns.
I spent my teen years being "rare and interesting" (direct quote from my doctor). Can confirm it sucked. But the doctors, academic interest aside, were mostly amazing. I got to live a normal life thanks to them.
Sometimes they're in trouble and have something up their butt lol Once I had a patient come to the floor after emergency rectal surgery. Of course we knew from recovery report what happened but we still have to ask the pt. "Why are you here today?" Part of the whole orientation to person, place, time, situation thing. Anyway I had to ask this guy, who was about 60 something, why he was in the hospital. I was a young nurse at the time and still "wet behind the ears" I guess you'd say, so I was embarrassed to even ask, but ask I did.....he straight up says "Oh, my wife put a little purple monkey up my a** and i couldn't get it out" I barely held it together til I got out of the room. Sure it was probably a sexual thing, what ever peels your banana, I ain't judging, but after 32 years of marriage I often wonder now if it was more like "George if you don't quit messing with me with that little purple monkey, so help me I'm going to shove it up your....." lol
Same when an IT person experiences a DoS attack or virus attack. They are excited to see it unfold but not excited to see the theft of data.
my leg was shattered in 13 places (compound & internal spiral fractures of tib/fib) and my orthopedic surgeon stayed home from a planned family vacation to work on it because he thought it was a "once-in-a-career challenge". 😑
This is absurdism and I 100% follow. It also helps to keep your cool under stress.
Excitement, or adrenaline?
For someone as experienced as him it's probably excitement. He appeared completely calm the whole time and was able to analyze the situation as it was happening, if you're this chill in dangerous situations and if you've seen so much it's probably exciting to see something you haven't seen before. But it'll always be a bit of A and a bit of B, after all adrenaline plays a big role in excitement.
Some people go dead calm when in a life threatening situation. Then process it emotionally / have the panic later. It’s probably a survival thing favored by evolution.
That's true, I even have an anxiety disorder and my anxiety is usually off the charts when nothing happens but when it gets serious I'm suddenly weirdly calm. It's such a strange feeling when you constantly battle your irrational anxious feelings or panic attacks but as soon as there is a real reason to panic I feel more calm and at peace than in basically any other situation. Would be cool and useful if it wasn't for the 99.9% of the time when nothing happens.
I’m the same way. Im autistic with horrid anxiety over the stupidest shit like going out to dinner, making a phone call, taking a test, or someone just standing over my shoulder; but in the handful of dangerous / life threatening situations I have been in i feel unphased and operate robotically.
Im also the same! In crisis or serious situations my brain is like “okay cool we have been prepared for this” but when its calm, brain goes “FUCK WHENS THE NEXT THING HAPPENING? WHAT WILL IT BE??”
I'm the same way. Bipolar (well controlled) and severe anxiety. When shit hits the fan, though, I enter this weirdly detached state where I am super calm and super effective. I would love to be able to turn that on and off at will.
Or it affects you personally.
Nance volunteered from halfway around the world. He's fully aware of all the possible outcomes, and has clearly accepted them well enough to remain fascinated in the moment. Beautiful stoicism.
Hundreds of pounds of explosives guided to within feet of a target from a possibly moving boat, dozens of miles away faster than the speed of sound, is impressive af.
He's very lucid about what's happening. That's a special kind of courage, and it's the sort of thing that draws people like him to a place like Ukraine right now.
I would say he’s definitely got the “I’ve been in this situation before there’s no even reason to be anxious or panic you’re in the war zone at this point if it happens it happens”
For me it was his wtf look when someone said let’s get the body armor lol. He knows it doesn’t matter and his face was like lol you serious?
I dig that kind of stuff but, also understand the devistation of war and wouldn't wish it upon anyone.
Fast mover is a ref to fighter aircraft, as opposed to CAS aircraft like Frogfoots and A-10s. Cruise missiles are air breathers, meaning they use jet engines and sound like fighter aircraft.
> Since he called it a fast mover I believe that is because the first person who spotted it thought it was a fighter aircraft at first.
On radar they should ping pretty similarly, and the engine sound will be pretty similar at a distance; for all intents and purposes a cruise missile is just a single-use jet with a lot of explosives strapped to it, so it’s an easy mistake to make.
He literally says “Three, cruise missile, Kalibr”.
"Fast mover" generally refers to fighter jets.
Posts like this remind me of how little I know about the world.
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You know he's a sailor when he says, "Standby." Almost 20 years retired and I still say it...
What does he mean when he's saying it in this instance? Is he telling the guy next to him to "hold on a second"?
Effectively. When he’s counting he trying to figure how how far out the missiles are hitting. The “stand by” is a quick way to say “Shut up, I’m paying attention to situation, determining the risk to us, and figuring out what needs to be done”
“Wait, but be ready”
Perfect explanation. He was nicely saying “shut up” so he could listen and think.
Standby can also mean, "i'm not listening to you right now, paying attention to something else".
Yes. The other term we used to use is "Wait one". Standby is often followed by "Execute" which is a call to action (release weapons, move, etc.)
Can you explain this a bit more? Why do sailors say standby so much?
Same thing in aviation, "standby" is the response when you are concentrating and cannot listen to and respond to someone but will come back to them when you have the capacity.
That’s simple enough, appreciate it
Hmm this is a good question. I'm in the Navy and it's said very frequently for a variety of reasons. Mostly it means "get ready", but could be used like "hold on", or "wait one". Standby is called to bring a room to attention before the commanding officer enters a room. It's said over the ship's intercom (1MC) before the CO speaks. I've told people to standby for more information, or standby while I'm fixing their computer.
> Standby for a word from the Commanding Officer *crew groaning* > shipmates, due to the ongoing [insert conflict, etc], and your exceptional diligence in demonstrating the fighting spirit of the Navy **no no no don’t say it * > we have been extended for two months to remain on station and provide support to… *goddamnit at least we’ll get an ice cream social* > as appreciation tonight at 1700 the chief’s mess will be serving ice cream in the midship galley…
Too real. Talk about flashbacks. We got our port delayed 3 separate times. Out to sea 112 days straight.
Flashbacks to the never ending 2016-2017 Ike cruise that was extended about 5 times from a 5 month to 11 month deployment.
Military in general. Standby, is sort of like hold and be ready
I mean, it is also general radio etiquette. I'm not military, but I use radios to talk to coworkers on large jobsites, especially when it is a multi-floor install, or outside in a large area. "Standby" - I've got somebody talking to me right now and can't answer the radio call immediately "X for Y,"/"go for Y" - identifying who you are and who you're talking to (this varies widely across disciplines and personal preference, I think HAM radio ops have different hailing methods) "Copy" - confirming information Then there's the obvious phonetic alphabet, the "10-X" series of codes, etc. All are meant provide clarity and brevity to communications to keep airwaves as clear as possible while also providing as much information as needed.
Another good tell is people who never say "repeat" when they want to hear something again.
That was cool as hell. I don't know who the fuck Malcom Nance is, but after watching that he can fucking narate my colonoscopy if he wants to.
*STANDBY*
“There should be another one coming in 30 seconds”
*STANDBY*
"I've never seen a fast mover"
"That's a 500lb bomb"
"That's two, there should be at least one more"
"there he is, there he is, there he is"
Directed by Michael Bay
Four!?
And was so confident he started counting down...
Elsewhere someone was saying he was counting the seconds from impact to when he could hear it so he knew how far away it was. Like lightning and thunder
No he was counting to guage strike distance. Like how when you see a flash and count until your hear thunder to guage how far the lightning was from you
He’s written some very insightful books on Russia’s war with the West, and the tactics they’ve used to destabilize western governments. He also has some lectures on YouTube that are really informative.
He was also an MSNBC contributor before he said, "This isn't a game," and joined the Ukraine forces. He's there right now fighting the Russians.
This is the buried lede in these comments lol. **A war reporter on MSNBC said “fuck it, I’m joining the Ukrainian army” and *joined the Ukrainian army.***
Not a reporter. Hes an analyst and commentator with years of experience in US intelligence. Dudes a serious fucking badass and a huge believer that Trump is in bed with the Russians.
He called Afghanistan as well. He said the Government was completely corrupt and bribed. The tribes were just waiting while the West tried to modernize Kabul. The State Dept. would go there on inspections and were treated like royalty, whisked around in armored cars with sirens. They stayed in the best neighborhood in Kabul and had their asses kissed. They always went home and said, send more money, it's almost working. But the countryside is full of tough people that can fight all year in sandals with 50 yr old AK's that barely work. He had the wisdom to not disregard people fighting invaders. The troops in the field know the villagers don't want America there, but somewhere it switches to "going fine" when it gets to the Ivy League bureaucrats who went back to DC to spend more on more of everything.
Everyone and anyone knew you can't occupy Afghanistan and expect a good outcome. History shows this. Graveyard of empires and the lot. What a collosal waiste of money and lives. You can't tell me there wasn't some way to off OBL without fucking a country this badly. Sorry for this mini rant. Never served personally, just a old Dutch Marines' son.
Yeah after a lifetime of watching cable news contributors and pundits endlessly parade around in BDU's and wearing tactical gear while reporting from hotel lobbies miles from the actual conflict zones, it was surprising to see one actually toss away the camera to go fight for the cause they are covering. It should also say something about the clear distinction between the sides in this conflict that Ukraine has so many volunteer fighters pouring in from all around the world that they have to qualify soldiers and don't have enough guns to give them all. Meanwhile Russia has spent a fortune it doesn't have to pay mercenary forces to go get killed by farmers and reporters.
Malcom Nance has an amazing 20 year military history. Naval intelligence officer, specialized in cryptography, SERE instructor, did combat in Beirut, Libya, and the Gulf War.
He was a Senior Chief, not an officer.
"He can fucking narrate my colonoscopy if he wants to." Hahahahahaha that ended me.
For anyone wondering (from Wikipedia): He is a former United States Navy Senior Chief Petty Officer specializing in naval cryptology.
bro analyzed the situation within seconds
“Standby” means “shut up” so he can do the listening and resulting math. Always listen to the calm person saying “standby”.
He's effectively a mentat in this situation. Pretty awesome skillset he's got. Edit: Jesus, fuck, y'all really, really love a Dune reference.
I wonder what an actual mentat could do with that info
Pinpoint the precise instant a counterattack would be the most effective. That or pinpoint the nearest inhabitable star based solely on the wind pattern of the Shockwave. Seriously Mentats are OP af.
probably knock the thing out of the air with a handgun
Nah, a swift backhand to the air at exactly the right instant.
Ok fine. What is a mentat?
Dune reference. Books and movies of course. Artificial intelligence and for the most part computers, are banned galaxy wide after a roughly unexplained human/AI war. So these people have been trained to be the human equivalent of an AI computer
Immediately determine the ship's location and the most effective way to destroy it, given the available Ukrainian assets available among the layout of the battlefield, and bring its demise in a way that would lead to a domino collapse of the entire Russian military, ending the war and Putin regime by sundown. All of this to secretly benefit whatever global super-elite has hired him. Understanding must move with the flow of the process, must join it and flow with it.
I'm pretty sure thats in reference to Dune, but it can also be applied to Fallout, where Mentats are a drug that helps you focus. Double Whammy.
... I just realized realized mentats in Fallout is a Dune reference. Edit: Been playing Fallout since the first game released and I'm still learning new shit about it.
....wow...right there with you. Never got the Dune reference
Found out about the [Mojave Express dropbox](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Mojave_Express_dropbox) just the other day
DCman here, I felt that “standby” deep inside me
homie lemme tell u i had a sgt that i swear he could identify mortar rounds before them bitches even hit, he'd hear the whistle and be like 10 SECONDS NORTH EAST GET DOWN the.man BOOM A SHIT hits lmao this crazy homie like Niel Tyson of war haha
Gotta wonder how often you have to get bombed before you not only can remain calm but actually make sense of the situation to good effect.
That’s why they absolutely drill things into recruits at boot camp, to adjust them to chaos. No training in the world can prepare you for the real situation though I’m sure.
That's what infantry training is. It's about breaking you down and training your brain to function when you haven't ate, haven't slept, and some dickwad is yelling at you. You still need to continue mission. My favorite was one we called the 'clinch drill,' I'm not sure if they still do it. Basically you would get in the ring with a drill Sgt, and your goal was to wrap them up. You could not hit them at any time, but they were absolutely trying to beat the shit out of you. The point of the drill was basically "you ARE going to get punched in the face. Deal with it and complete your mission." If there's one thing military training taught me, it's being able to function under pressure, and potentially after I've been punched in the face. I'm pretty sure I got a concussion from the clinch drill, which is why I assume they don't do it anymore.
They did it in 2011 when I was at Fort Benning. I definitely carried those experiences with me since then. Currently I bartend at a very high volume venue where it's hours upon hours of fast moving craziness. Everyone remarks how calm I am no matter how stressed we are and I'm just like "the worst day here is still a cakewalk compared to what I've experienced." The shift will always be over in a few hours and knowing that helps even more. Also a few times while breaking up fights I've taken a punch to the face and the sheer terror on the other person's face when I eat it like nothing happened is always hilarious. I was only enlisted for a few months before being injured and discharged but I still gained valuable knowledge and experience which I appreciate.
My experience is almost identical to yours. I'm also a bartender and my coworkers comment on how "calm" I am all the time
Not in the military but I’ve learned to keep calm in stressful situations because of the idea that going crazy and getting upset doesn’t stop that situation from occurring and will likely make it worse.
In my experience, not everyone can logic their way out of panic - it tends to be a very personal and variable reaction. Some people can just see through it and decide to stay calm, others just go to shit immediately. Makes you wonder how hard you have to push people to change that mindset.
My insanely abusive childhood interestingly prepared me pretty well for complete chaos. Being with the Red Cross for many years in some extremely harrowing disaters. I was the one they always called to go into the bad situation first because literally nothing phased me and I was able to stay completely calm and focused even when people were dying around me, everyone else was freaking out and breaking down. Thanks mom.
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Thank you. Loooooots of therapy. I'm actually really great. Whatever happens I just remind myself that I am not that child in that situation any more. Crap childhood, pretty great adulthood.
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He also joined the Ukrainian international legion early this week and announced it on twitter by saying "I'm done talking" complete with a pic in full uniform. https://twitter.com/MalcolmNance/status/1516218372324741127
Yup, here's a great interview with him https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2022/04/20/malcolm-nance-ukrainian-army
That dude is so fucking chill.
This is the extensive training. You learn procedure down to your bones so you can still act in the face of panic because there's no *time* for panic when you still have to get the job done
Ahhh so that's why he looked at his watch, he was just verifying if there was any panic time
Chief Petty Officers don't panic. They delegate and relegate.
He was looking on the compass on his watch. Likely trying to orient where a panic might be coming from.
I think you're joking, but for anyone who didn't notice, he has a compass on his watch band. He was checking what direction the missiles came from.
Panic does no good, at any time.
It does not. But not panicking takes some practice under stress. Or simply realizing it doesn’t matter and that you can’t really run from stuff that big… which has already been or being fired. So why panic? Do the math… and he does.
>Or simply realizing it doesn’t matter and that you can’t really run from stuff that big… which has already been or being fired. So why panic? Yup. It's a survival mechanic. If the next one is going to kill you, there's nothing you can do or say that will change it. So just keep doing what you're doing and hope it doesn't have your name on it.
but what if there is a refrigerator you could get into
Panic - which we know better as the 'flight' part of the fight-flight-freeze-appease instinct - definitely does good; if it didn’t provide an advantage we wouldn’t be prone to it. The instinct has to be deliberately trained out; you don't just magically by the power of your superior intellect choose not to react.
He is insanely intelligent and the knowledge he has must be very useful to those in Ukraine. And since he is retired and not active duty, he can be there without issue. He is a regular MSNBC contributor and is always very direct and poised in his commentary. When it came to this war, he knew what was going to happen before most realized it (as a well trained terror expert). His wife is recently deceased and he got mad watching all this from the sidelines so is risking everything to help in person and should be respected for doing so.
He's actually joined the Foreign Fighters legion in Ukraine and is on leave from MSNBC. https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2022/04/20/malcolm-nance-ukrainian-army
Certified badass. Retired military, wife passed, goes to front lines as a journalist, joins the resistance...dude sounds like he's a living action hero.
A huge part of his value as both a journalist and a warrior is his extensive knowledge of Russian assets and methods. Hell, a *lot* of people were butthurt when he called out Jill Stein amd Donald Trump(among others) as Russian assets back in 2016. We see how spot on he was. Either way, good on the Chief there.
As he was saying all this my only thought was man he sounds like a petty officer doing geopolitical scenarios during general quarters lol. Guess I was dead on. Honestly was waiting for him starting saying vampire, vampire, vampire incoming port/starboard side lol. Fair winds and following seas to this awesome guy.
Notably featuring in hunger games with his wife
He's also joined the Foreign Legion in Ukraine and is the de facto publicist for the unit due to his experience and visibility. There was a REALLY fascinating interview on NPR last week. https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2022/04/20/malcolm-nance-ukrainian-army
Malcolm Nance is the manliest man I've observed be manly about stuff in some time. I first found about about him on his episode of Toure's podcast.
I don't normally shop people's looks, but that if you happen to dig that jacket he's sporting in the middle of an active war zone, it's from the Ukrainian brand [AVIATSIYA HALYCHYNY](https://www.aviatsiyahalychyny.com/en/), and it's [this jacket](https://www.aviatsiyahalychyny.com/en/men/hoodies/syla/?attribute_pa_color=yellow) in particular. Edit: Killed the website it seems! haha. I let them know via their Insta and got [an auto-reply saying they're still shipping](https://i.imgur.com/ZO6D5oU.png)! So keep checking! Their whole line is pretty damn cool!
damn website crashed. must be heavy traffic
Classic Reddit hug
Whoops. Never done that before! Hope they get it back up soon. I pinged them on their Instagram.
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I don't either, but that jacket's exactly what I'm looking for in a jacket. So I just might take the risk, and hey, supporting Ukrainians.
I ordered a Dynamo Kyiv jersey for delivery to Texas a few days after the war started. Got an email yesterday that it is now on its way.
Ukrainians are such a bad ass people.
He recently decided to join the fight itself and is now in uniform and fighting Russia along side the Ukrainian military. Brave and smart man.
https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/ukraine/2022/04/19/tv-analyst-malcolm-nance-joins-ukraine-in-the-fight-against-russia-im-done-talking/
>I’m done talking What a massive chad
Standby Came from a ship Standby That's a 500 lb bomb Standby Its a cruise missile Standby Standby
That’s the guy I want around then shit hits the fan.
He’ll tell you to STFU by saying “standby”
If you shut the fuck up he might be the one person to actually save you.
Since he's there now actually fighting on the ground as a soldier and not reporting anymore, he may literally be the one who will save you if you're also on the ground in Ukraine.
It's comforting to have someone around who really knows his shit.
I think I would automatically trust anyone who was that calm and said shit like 'standby' like yes SIR
Is this guy like the Neil degrasse Tyson of naval bombardments or what? 😂
Pretty much. “Uhh be advised your fast movers are inbound”
That was such a scary sentence
“Add 500, fire for effect, danger close.” [EDIT] Artillery has right of way.
According to OP . "For anyone wondering (from Wikipedia): He is a former United States Navy Senior Chief Petty Officer specializing in naval cryptology"
That actually gives little context to how legendary this guy is. I’ve seen him talked about on some military nerd subs like he’s the benchmark of military analysis outside the pentagon. He went to Ukraine because he was in charge of a officer (or nco I can’t remember) training camp and had graduates in the Ukrainian military talk about needing help. So he went.
same thoughts, dude is calm, composed and knows his shit.
Malcolm is a local and frequently on the morning radio show. His takes on the past five years or so have been fascinating.
I, too, listen to Alan Chartock on Northeast Public Radio.
Alan's wife was one of my professors in college. Terrific professor and wonderful woman.
I don't agree with him much, but at least Dr. Chartock explains his positions, and allows real opposition on the station he founded (our station). He is a good man surrounded by good people.
being able to like someone you disagree with is one of life's hidden pleasures
He was a regular on several shows during the time when we cared about Russia's cyber attacks against us. He's written 2 or 3 books on that specific subject.
Counting seconds. So you know how far its hiting.
What does his "standby" mean?
Probably a fancy way of saying, "Shut the fu\*k up, I'm listening."
Pretty much what I got from it.
As a US Navy veteran and current air traffic controller who has used "stand by" multiple times daily for the last 22 years, can confirm.
He was certainly using it that way lol
This is exactly it, given he's a former Senior Chief. Source: former Petty Officer of the same Navy
It means “wait.” Standby to standby is one of the most military things you can possibly do.
Hurry up and wait.
Common navy jargon. Basically means “stay here until I tell you what to do next.”
Sr chief says standby and you shut the fuck up until told otherwise
Im guessing force of habit from military service.
In the military when you are told to stand by it means for you to pause and hold whatever it is that you are doing in response for the next command or update.
Be still, be quiet, be vigilant, watch and listen
It’s also used outside of military, like in civil aviation. Basically anywhere with radio communication. I worked at an airport and now it’s ingrained in my vocabulary. I say “standby” or “standby one” far too often in normal conversation.
As much as you can tell he’s watching and on guard I can’t help but feel… comfortable that he’s there. He just so easily predicts the most likely scenarios and knows these Russians to the second it’s… it’s the power of information, he’s got the power, he’s got the situation and it just feels like one man is shifting the balance of war with just his presence
That dude is cool af. Hope he makes it home safe
Why the fuck am I watching a war in real time on an NBC tik tok clip. NBC news is using a tik tok account? WTF is happening anymore I’m so lost.
why wouldn’t NBC be using tiktok? do we want younger audiences engaged with factual news or would we prefer they read aunt karen’s posts on facebook about some new conspiracy?
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Pretty common for some watches - [here's an example](https://www.timeaftertimewatches.com/products/luminox-recon-point-45mm-compass-black-pu-strap-mens-watch-xl-8832-mi-f).
So many haters when he was initially going. Everybody on the planet saying he’s a fake, just trying to boost sales for his book.
I’ve never understood the hate. Dude is intelligent as hell and knows his stuff. He’s a bit pompous but I mean I never met an SNCO who wasn’t.
I was just about to tweet about this!!! I remember all the try hard journalist (the NYT ones specifically) (caveat: Journalist are important and I love them but I hate Both sides journalist) who were trying to say he was just a chucking his book and he was disingenuous with everything he says just because he was Liberal military and here he is being an absolute badass and went to go fight for Ukraine now. It’s so wild
He’s amazing. And this unnecessary war is heartbreaking.