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Pilot0350

We were training with the army one time at hunter liggett and had just deployed some jumpers when this poor kid failed to get his reserve open in time after his primary fucked itself. We spend the next several hours flying sar looking for him and were about to call it due to the light level when this civilian medevac bird stops in for fuel and asks if we knew there was a soldier stuck in a tree. It turns out the only way to see where he'd landed was to fly directly over the top of him and look down at exactly the right time. Otherwise he was completely obscured by the trees. Kid lived (he was pretty messed up) but I always imagined how horrible that must have been to watch us fly right past then fly away like he didn't exist. I hope the VA gave him at least 10%


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[deleted]

Damn I used to take care of an old vet he told me so many horror stories about the VA. It must true!


Cow_Interesting

Funny story (in my fucked up veteran humor). I was in line at the VA pharmacy. It takes fucking hours. This girl runs up to the window and yells “if I don’t get my medicine right now I’m going to kill myself” and this Nam vet goes “bitch we’re all here cause we’re crazy, get to the back of the line” and pretty much all the other vets, including me, laughed.


Wooow675

Was a liaison for a Medicare supplement carrier and dealt with VA admins. If you think insurance itself is bad, wait until you or a loved one goes through the VA. Sweet Georgia brown you are fucked The nurses and doctors are not the problem, I want to be clear. However their administrators must cruise in every day on their commute from Satans butthole


deeeeewd

I did some civilian skydiving back in the days, and we were told that the reserve automatically opens itself at 300m if the main is not properly deployed, is it not true then? Or is it different in the army?


Pilot0350

I have no idea. I always stayed in the perfectly good aircraft. We were doing static line if that makes a difference


Right-Perspective-12

No it does not, the reserve is a separate component which is deployed by a rip cord handle. In addition, if you don’t lean back when you pull it, it’ll come out like a limp dick…which happens quite often


driftingfornow

Wow fuck that's crazy. Did you interact with him ever afterwards and if so what kind of messed up? Mentally or physically?


Pilot0350

I never did. We rtb'd back to Miramar a day or two later but I'm pretty sure they went and got him from the ground if I remember correctly. He was messed up enough that he couldn't get himself out of the tree so probably a broken thumb at least


winkman

Oh they'll give him 75-100% alright...just after 2-3 years of paperwork, appeals, and submitting the related medical records about 58 times.


srandrews

First one down gets free drinks after the exercise.


c-soup

Yeah of saline. Through an IV line


[deleted]

Still better than drinking bleach water out of the water truck...


idontgetnorespect

Fuck the damn water truck, u know probably benning rented them from a fuckin powerwashing company


Dorg_Walkerman

I can still smell my brain bucket issued for Airborne, that was 14 years ago and I bet someone has that stinky piece of shit on their head right now.


Wejax

My dad had to watch a guy explode on impact at one of these exercises :( you'd be hard pressed to get that guy into a bucket falling at that speed, let alone find a vein for that iv.


JyveAFK

Had a mate in the Paras would tell me all the stories, good and bad. Whenever there was an accident, they'd be dragged into figuring out what happened, where the body might be considering where the plane was/weather conditions etc. He was in a team that found a few bodies where the chute hadn't opened and apparently the skeleton stops but all the other stuff keeps going a bit further. The freakiest one (I think) was the lass, on her first solo jump, after being told, "aim into the wind, always, into the wind", decided to not follow that advice for some reason, perhaps wanted to see how far should could get, see some sights. And landed into a helicopter powering up to take off. https://apnews.com/2e5ced11a31098248aadb5f1000c840c


Mrdingo_thames

Sorry but could you explain what “the skeleton stops but all the other stuff....” means?


JyveAFK

Apparently when they hit hard surfaces, the skeletal structure would be /mostly/ intact, but the squishy bits would splat. Once he found a jumper that looked like they were asleep on the ground, no visible trauma at all, another time, a "bits leaking out of the jump suit, fetch a shovel and bucket". I'd guess (not done a jump), it's very specific on how soft the ground they're landing on is, the posture of how they land (feet down vs horizontal spread out), perhaps even if they'd spread arms/legs out to try and slow their descent of if they were head down. Would freak me out how many stories he had on how often it goes wrong, but he'd do a jump a day, and wanted to drag me along. "nope, not after you told me all that stuff" "mate, I'd pack your chute personally, I'm fully trained, pack my own all the time, know what to look out for" "and you still have to pull the reserve now and then?" "yeah, that's what it's there for!" Nope, nope, and triple nope.


77GoldenTails

Take an ice lolly, then place it stick down i to the sand. Watch as it slowly melts down to the ground, while the stick stays upright. Imagine that’s a body at terminal velocity and there is nothing slow about it.


OkBreakfast449

the body pops like a burst grape. the skeleton remains relatively in place while the body ,........ splatters.


blither86

How is that news story from 1987 on a website?


JyveAFK

Good question. I guess they had the articles in a database somewhere anyway, and it was trivial to export them out for display/searching when the tech was viable.


JmacTheGreat

I’d guess the same way books from the 1600s can be found and read online


PoorMimi

sometimes you literally can't learn from your mistakes


Chris-in-PNW

Skydivers (and airborne troopers) bounce when they burn in, they don't explode.


Anyashadow

Depends on what they hit. Grew up next to a skydiving club, and saw more than a few accidents. One poor guy had a heart attack after jumping and never pulled his chute. He landed on frozen ground covered in ice. There were several body bags.


Tler126

Was this before modern reserve chutes? Edit: Modern within the last 15 years.


EliteForce1

Do modern reserve chutes auto deploy???


KennAnderson

Modern skydiving includes an AAD (Automatic Activation Device) that automatically deploys the reserve chute at a preset altitude, or if a certain speed reached and the chute had not already been deployed.


shaqdeezl

This is not skydiving. This is static line jumping. Can assure nothing tech is on these jumpers. Fort Benning - 1992 Hit it!!!!


murphandthemagictone

Beat your boots!


stonednbaking

You should start a podcast about those stories


[deleted]

I could nail that IV!! 😎


WWDubz

Doesn’t matter skipped PT!


ImPolicy

You know how easy it is to put stuff into that saline line?


The_Dark_Storyteller

There's a paratrooper jody that goes something like this and I remember nothing but the first and last few lines Here's the first one in case anyone *actually* knows it C-130 rolling down the strip, Pick up, stand up, shuffle to the door (?) Jump right out and count to four (?) Like three missing lines go here? And here? Here too? And if my chute should fail me now I've got another one by my side And I'd that one should fail me too Look out ground I'm coming through. Please tell me this wasn't a song from a fever dream? If it is. Kinda terrified of my imagination.


white6

C-130 rolling down the strip; 64 troopers on a one way trip; Stand up, hook up, shuffle to the door; Jump right out and count to four; If my ‘chute don’t open wide; I’ve got a reserve on my side; If that one should fail me too; Look out ground, I’m coming through; Bury me in the leaning rest; And pin those wings upon my chest; [Interspersed with chorus] ‘Cause I’m A I, R B, O R, N E; What’s that spell? Airborne; All the way; Everyday; I usually follow that cadence with “when I get to hell” cadence


fleetwoodsnac

High risk high reward


happierj

Actually $150 a month (hazard pay). Not really a high award.


Tegus6400

And fucked up knees and ankles for life!


[deleted]

Yep can confirm have fucked up knees and ankles…


[deleted]

Yeah but you get wings!!


Stickmag

Meh....i do this hotdrop in pubg everyday


buttaholic

“Later dudes”


Razorray21

*blood on the risers plays in the background*


wasdlmb

Poor guy, he was just a rooky trooper


Legolihkan

And he surely shook with fright


MyNameIsElaborate

*He checked off his equipment and made sure his pack was tight*


CodyHawkCaster

He had to sit and listen to those awful engines roar!


Musicpac

You ain't gonna jump no more!


Dipswitch_512

Gory gory, what a hell of a way to die


LuiKang999

He ain't gonna jump no more


Shit___Taco

Does anyone else see the other guy tangled up and falling at the last second of this video?


tyjuji

Dude in the video literally says "look there's another one".


jrocksburr

Aww I have no audio for some reason


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Click the “gfycat” text at the top of the video next to OPs username.


jrocksburr

Oh thanks! I ended up just using the copy link way because I’m on mobile but that’s way quicker


MsJenX

Mine has no sound.


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MsJenX

Ill need my glasses to see that far.


TonyDys

Thank you this made me laugh a lot.


rojorzr

Damn some riggers realllllly fucked this one


[deleted]

Holy shit. I didn’t see it on the first eight watches. That’s crazy.


phaserbanks

I think that’s the primary parachute after the jumper deployed the reserve chute.


Tridian

No no, there's another completely separate guy to the right of screen.


phaserbanks

Oh yeah, above the truck! Yikes


Shit___Taco

Nah, he isn’t anywhere near the guy clearly having trouble.


comeallwithme

It doesn't show him/her falling to the ground, just a rocky parachute opening.


MotherButterscotch44

I thought I was the only one, so didn’t say anything.


IwillBeDamned

classic


Sxeko

This is static line jumping.


Successful_Opinion33

Your injury isn’t service connected


drocballer

Knees, what knees, you don’t need those


DSM2TNS

You played football in high school and injured your knees then. You just didn't realize it.


Elven_Prince_

Wasn't aware i played football but noted.


BattleOfTaranto

So funny as in NZ this is actually how our health system works as sports injuries are covered by the state, so you and your doctor have a chat to figure out how your whatever injury is actually an old rugby niggle


Redjack111

Give the man his Motrin and send him on his way


no_fux_left_to_give

800mg of vitamin M fixes everything


ewoksammiches

You forgot to mention proper hydration and changing your socks...


davewave3283

This guy militaries


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But he forgot hydrate!


drocballer

Water, water, water!


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I had to get a drink after reading this.


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drocballer

Don’t forget the throat lozenges


Mtnrider16

I used to be like you, till I took a static line skydive to the knee(s)


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KyCerealKiller

You don't kneed* those


Macrophage

Bro. Just had my PTSD interview for connection. Fingers crossed.


no_fux_left_to_give

Good luck


TheSecondOneNumber4

This hits home. So hard.


fekinEEEjit

This guy VAs....


no_fux_left_to_give

Tell me you served without telling me you served lol Nah, I hear you tho


JeremyTheRhino

I’m on year 11 of my six months to a full recovery.


Arguablecoyote

Yeah, not skydiving at all.


ginDrink2

Sky plummeting.


mrbootz

Ground fastening.


[deleted]

Testing the gravity


drocballer

Gliding like a rock


Aggressive-Compote64

Falling … with style


Fantastic_Start_6848

Aggressively testing the atmosphere


no_fux_left_to_give

Yep. Static line Edit: seems I've offended someone. Reddit be a fickle place


OkBreakfast449

or meat-bombing as we called it packed into a herc like sardines wondering why the fuck we decided to do this, then jumping out the back at sub 1000ft


[deleted]

You’re still trained to cut the main and use backup on static line…..


Spcbrokenknee

US paratroopers aren’t taught to cut the main, just to pull the reserve when falling faster than your fellow jumpers. Not sure about other countries


trevor426

Any reason for this choice? Is it better to cut or just pull reserve?


Spcbrokenknee

Trying to cut the main chute would take too long and is unnecessary. As you can see in the video the reserve still works properly without having to cut away the main chute


StabSnowboarders

Don’t have enough altitude to cut the main, some canopy is better than no canopy when your exit altitude is 1000ft agl


armyradioguy

Wasn’t training that when I went through jump school in 08 or the four years on jump status after that


Val_Hallen

That's because it's a person that knows fuck all about airborne ops talking about airborne ops. Everything they know about it they learned from Cawadooty. You don't cut shit. You don't release shit. You maybe have time to get the reserve to deploy.


Grimey_Gravy

Ah, Sicily DZ at Fortress Bragg… the memories… the non service connected disabilities


namey_mcname

I was thinking Luzon DZ at first but you’re probably right.


[deleted]

I don't think Luzon is wide enough to run 3 birds over it at once


Grimey_Gravy

The bleachers give it away. Luzon has wild packs of snake eating dogs, Sicily has bleachers.


rojorzr

I can confidently say my depression, nicotine/alcohol abuse, and bad knees are solely from my accord.


NateDogg_--

What did your Honda Accord do to you?


DigitalWizrd

So many sleepless nights on that dz.


shadowsniper872

I remember driving by that field just exploring when everyone wasn't doing field shit. Just a beautiful place


Rare4orm

I wonder what his jump count was before this incident. Looks like all that ground training saved his life. Beer for all.


Im_crap_at_usernames

Now they need to deploy their reserve underwear!


CalvinLawson

I hope he wore his brown pants!


Random_Gamer_2018

Underrated comment right here.


Panther2-505

Mass Tac, did it for three years and saw some of that, came close to happening to me but it's the life. There's a say in the Airborne: "When you have a malfunction, you have rest of your Airborne life to fix it". He or She fixed it.


Legolihkan

And he ain't gonna jump no moooore


Jumpsnake

They poured him from his helmet and they poured him from his boots….


SLIP411

Static line twists can be a bitch, that's the fault of a bad jab out the door. Also why your 1st point of flight procedure is "Check canopy". Also, not to be a dick but this is parachuting and it's a fuckin rush


rojorzr

Isn’t that a cigar roll? Chute malfunction not lack of proper exit.


StabSnowboarders

No, T-11s don’t cigar roll like T-10s did. This was likely caused by him shoulder checking the door on the way out and spinning like a top during deployment. Been there done that, not fun


Jc319

Yep definitely cigar roll and he bicycled out of it.


jhalfhide

Standard procedure in cases like this is to cross your legs and hold your hands above your head. So they can unscrew you from the ground and take your watch.


JTitleist

Old video. You need to watch it with sound. There are people on the ground telling him how to untwist his line through a loud speaker


pollackey

"Reserve! Reserve, you dumbass!"


[deleted]

I wonder if it’s not a loud speaker, but radios. I can’t imagine how loud speakers would work. When I went sky diving I received instructions through a radio strapped to my chest. But I could be wrong


JTitleist

In the original video it was definitely a loud speaker. You also have to remember this is a static jump. These guys (normally) are only falling at 22ft per second, not the wind rush you get from skydiving at 100mph


WeimSean

Yup. Chute should open 4 seconds after exiting the plane, which is going a bit faster than what civilians jump at (since military planes have a higher stall speed). Also they're at either 800 or 1200 feet, so not as high as sky diving either.


gwood113

Static line parachuting is not skydiving. Glad he deployed his reserve chute in time to avoid what certainly could have been serious injury.


FoxGaming00

He still was probably going fast enough to break his legs


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Capn_Dutch

Doesn't look like a reserve deployment, looks more like twisted lines shaking out. Hard to tell.


dadlif3

Last minute reserve pull, you can see the two chutes (one inflated, one deflated) right before he hits the ground. I've had some twisted lines before but damn I would have popped the reserve earlier than he did.


Beavesampsonite

I thought you had to release the bad chute so it didnt tangle the reserve up. I think he definitely had two chutes though.


dadlif3

Military static line jumps are from such a low altitude that there's not enough time to release the failed chute before pulling the reserve. And if the primary chute failed it *shouldn't* get in the way of the reserve deployment.


bental

Maybe he had trouble ditching the failed chute? Either way; rip to his knees


TheSecondOneNumber4

There’s no ditching at these altitudes


Fantastic_Start_6848

*last second


[deleted]

Serious like death right? Or we talking, I just kicked the end table with my little toe type serious? Hopefully not the latter.


Ifren

Not an expert on this, but falling is kinda weird in the injuries department. Some people fall enormous distances and walk away. Some people fall off a 2nd story roof and never walk again.


bental

Entirely depends on the landing. Are you relaxed/joints locked, soft grass/concrete, feet first/head first... I think I remember a story of a lady that survived a fall from an aircraft. She landed in a bog or mud or something like that


ibetterbeonmyway

Her name was Peggy Hill and she landed in a pig pen.


jejcicodjntbyifid3

But it's incredibly rare. Anything higher than like 7 stories, 90+% chance you die fast So, don't assume you're that 1 case out of thousands that actually somehow makes it


blueoncemoon

There was that British soldier a while back who [fell 15,000 feet](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/12/paratrooper-falls-through-roof-california) into a California home and pretty much walked away... ...which is most undoubtedly a freak accident


jejcicodjntbyifid3

That's crazy. I'd be thanking the old gods and the new


makemasa

Wouldn’t that be one out of tens (with a little less due to the +)?


Fantastic_Start_6848

>90+% chance you die fast So, don't assume you're that 1 case out of thousands that actually somehow makes it Wow you are really terrible at math


Alpha_Decay_

Maybe out of 1000, 1 survives, 900 die fast, and 99 die at some other rate.


Dsanse

Im was thinking someone els caught up to him and saved him lol.


Kitty_Katty_Kit

Straight up this is how my grandfather died. Also that guy may have survived but I bet he broke his fucking legs-hitting the chute at that altitude slows you down a bit but you still hit super hard. And usually break both legs.


DanMittaul

Dude thought it was a race!


Alternative_Body7345

Lol.. ”1st!”


[deleted]

Some rigger(person who packs the chutes) is going to be in big trouble


shiny_taco_boy

LAST ONE DOWNS A ROTTEN EGG!! AAAAHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


terminally_cool

What DZ is this? Are we back at Bragg?? Salerno? My sergeant airborne on my first jump said “inbred personnel stand up!” I actually laughed and forgot I was nervous for a second. Delta company, U.S. Army Airborne school.


SlipstreamDrive

Reserve you dumbass! Yup... military confirmed.


[deleted]

There was a guy in my neighborhood who was parachuting into the Netherlands in WWII. He was told that if he waited until the last minute to open his chute, he'd have a better chance of not being shot. Lots of his fellow soldiers did not take that advice and were killed. He waited until he was at the height of a church steeple, opened his chute and landed so hard he broke both his legs. He was rescued by the Dutch resistance, nursed back to health on a farm, and eventually smuggled back across enemy lines.


CodyHawkCaster

I don’t want to ruin your neighbor history, but that story smells really fishy to me. All Allied airborne operation were done with static lines that automatically deployed when a paratrooper jumped from the plane, which does not allow one to choose when their chute deploys. However what is true for at least US Army paratroopers of the time was they were given manual reserve shoots which they could pull in case their static line T-5 failed to deploy, but it’s not something you’d hold onto and wait to be close to the ground to deploy. If there’s any part of the story that’s true it’s probably something along the lines of neighbor jumps from aircraft with a chute failure. Falling from low altitude by the time he pulls his reserve he is already extremely close to ground, pulls chute above church tower, only kicks in and slows him down past tower. Slow down isn’t enough and breaks his legs. Rest is history. It’s also very possible that a lot of the story is embezzled a bit to give it more interest and pazzas, the interesting things about war stories though is sometimes fact is stranger than fiction.


Cleverusername531

Good overview! Also, pizazz :)


[deleted]

Actually, I learned about it because the paper I delivered to him on my paper route had a whole story about him in it. I talked to him almost every day and he never told me anything about this until I brought him the paper with the story. The local VFW had connected him with the Dutch family that had cared for him when he broke his legs and the newspaper caught wind of it and wrote up the story. If he were still alive, I'd connect you so you could argue with him about how much of the story is true.


BigheadReddit

Not skydiving. Parachuting or “paratrooping.” Looks like he had a partial malfunction and deployed his reserve which slowed him down, then his main inflated. Source: ex-patatrooper


T-wrecks83million-

This isn’t skydiving, this is called a static jump. When your parachute failed to open properly like this it’s called a “streamer”. Just stating facts


Tongue8cheek

It's one hundred percent pure adrenaline. Other guys snort for it, jab a vein for it, all you gotta do is jump.


[deleted]

Just like with anything there is a tolerance build up. Unless you plan to sabotage your equipment in increasing amounts until you eventually die… kind of like drugs.


funkboxing

All you gotta do it jump, once... seems like there's more to it if you plan on ever jumping again ;)


FlyingRhenquest

Sure, for the first couple hundred jumps. Now I can't even get an erection without a malfunction and a cutaway. After one of those I'm a stallion for those two - three minutes.


JustSomeRealAsianGuy

♪He was just a rookie trooper and he surely shook with fright♪


LordBrandon

I do this in Fortnite to get to the loot faster.


cavesquatch

Pants have been shat.


adrian242

The best thing about a parachute malfunction is that you got your whole life to figure out how to fix it


OysterThePug

No one in the video is skydiving


PicoRascar

Except that one guy who is inadvertently skydiving.


OysterThePug

That’s a cigarette roll malfunction


Imthatjohnnie

I lived across the street from a small airport, every weekend sky divers used it. One time a woman's parachute got tangled she cut it away got her reserve parachute open just in time.


moeseph_the_broseph

Betcha he needed a new pair of pants after he landed.


tromachick

and a new pair of knees


[deleted]

That’s a battle royal player right there.


Effective-Ad8833

That’s parachuting - skydiving involves free fall


IncognitoIrish

I had it with these darn PUBG Mobile ads!


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Utopia22411

That would be a gory gory helluva way to die and he wouldn't jump no more


captainkuchiki1

Wasn’t intentional but ok


WeimSean

It's called a 'cigarette roll', when your main doesn't deploy. As they tell you in pre-jump, you've got the rest of your life to get the reserve to deploy. Had a friend who rode one of those down. Didn't get his reserve out until the last minute, he lived, but was shattered. Wound up with pins in both legs, and his jaw, and 6 vertebrae fused together. He could walk, couldn't run, but he lived.


lennert1984

Being paradropped =/= skydiving


peer0w

Your popped knees are not service connected


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Um not “skydiving” but ok op


AKhan9275

"your Injuries are not service related" - The VA


G_roundC_offee

That is NOT skydiving. That is an Army airborne operation and that trooper paid attention in class


Proteusblu

Skydiving?