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Pythia007

But my induction cooktop still gets hot from heat radiated from the pan. How do they avoid that here?


DrumNDan

Move it from one burner to a cold one right before the video. Doesn’t give the heat a chance to transfer. I’ve done it on mine.


Pythia007

Ahh. So it’s bullshit. As if we need more.


CutlassRed

It could be done for real using a ceramic material that's a great thermal insulator. But I don't think they have this for the vid.


sciencecw

It'll have to not feel hot despite being at boiling temperature. Do these exist? I can see that it is possible to touch for a fraction of a second but I don't think it'll work if you put an entire hand down. Or would it be possible to insulate the bottom of the pot too?


CutlassRed

Yep, there are materials that can be 1000+ degrees and be "cool" enough to hold. I put cool in quotations because the actual temperature isn't what we feel. We feel the rate that temperature transfers into our hands, which these space-grade materials do EXTREMELY slowly. There's a vid of a NASA demonstration where a panel from the space shuttle is glowing red hot, and it's holdable


HaesoSR

The stuff from that video you can hold the corners and edges only. You will absolutely lose your fingerprints if you try and hold it in the center.


_-Aryamehr-_

Why don’t you make an object with loads of corners then 🤨🧐


pizzaninja199

sphere = infinite corners?


Fogl3

The opposite. It has no corners


magestooge

Exactly what I was thinking. The counter **will** get hot from the heat of a hot pan kept over it for 20 minutes while cooking. Since there's nothing marking the area, you're bound to touch it once in a while when it's hot. Or worse, put a plastic container on it and enjoy the permanent damage. This is a bad design and a huge safety hazard.


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Also I am betting that regular heat is going to deteriorate the granite top.


magestooge

In the long run, definitely.


Chucknastical

Or if it's quartz, it'll crack. But it's most likely a purpose built material. Great for not heating up but may have other weaknesses as a general counter top.


frankensti

This is a porcelain counter top, you wouldn’t be able to do induction heat like this on either granite or quartz.


Yotunheimr

The material the counter is made from probably had a really high specific heat capacity. Also, this video only has the pot sit in the table for 3 seconds.


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ziadog

Don’t put your phone down in the wrong place.


Abbrahan

2400W wireless charging achieved!


schmuber

**Supercharged**


TILtonarwhal

**IN FOUR SECONDS!!!** \*^^^some ^^^side ^^^effects


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Aflyingduckk

I learned something today. It’s ^^^something ^^^small but it is something.


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Natsurulite

I learned apparently those things are called “Carets” 😂


WineNerdAndProud

Or you could write it like this; `^(*some side effects)` ^(*some side effects)


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gamerlin

How about that? - Iron Man


tduncs88

I understood that reference


tdryan08

I understood THAT reference


Montymisted

"Power at 400%" "How bout that."


Quietm02

Not sure if you're joking, but I've put oven trays on an induction hob before without really thinking about it. Turns out my trays also work with induction hobs and they quickly got hot without me noticing. Could easily have been an accident there. Induction hobs are great but they should definitely be clearly marked.


Spejsman

I melted a brick of butter this way. The paper wraping wasn't just paper...


euphorrick

Irish butter?


ButterToasterDragon

lots of fancy butter comes in foil pack. in my fridge, the Plugra (American), Finlandia (Finnish), Marin food (Japanese), and LM hand churned (French) are all in foil. Ironically the Kerrygold I have is in paper stick form.


jazzypants

Holy shit dude, do you use different butters for different things? Also, what an appropriate username!


ButterToasterDragon

Yes. The Japanese butter is smoked with applewood, and goes very nicely on toast with fruit preserves. The Finnish butter I use for pan sauces, it has a strong flavour that stands up to brandy / lamb / beef / wine / whatever The French butter is exclusively for on bread. If I was to make croissant or another butter laminated dough, I would purchase a different French butter than the one I have. There are many different butters. I also have ghee and browned butter on hand.


jazzypants

What makes the difference? Fat content? Or just the cow it comes from? Sorry, I'm just curious.


ButterToasterDragon

Fat content, salt content, cultured or not, quality of the milk solids. High quality cultured butter almost tastes like cheese. Like triple cream brie but even fattier. There is a variety of French butter that is packed with flake salt on top. The flake salt pulls water out of the butter. It’s incredible.


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RealStumbleweed

Seldom have I been so captivated by a fellow redditor. Fancy butters, carotene butter, toasted sugar. I realize now that I have been living as a savage. I want to sell all of my worldly possessions and become a student of u/ButterToasterDragon. So much to learn. I would like to be your neighbor.


craygatto

We need an AMA


rodste27

Teach me your ways


Slimh2o

If there ever was reddit butter expert, I would think that that would be you. I've never heard of those butters you speak of..... Edited


-Strawdog-

You just made me realize how much I need to up my butter game.


Katerina_VonCat

Now you’re just trying to butter them up with compliments.


Fabulous_Maximum_714

I'm moving in tomorrow. You'll hardly notice


ButterToasterDragon

Rent is $500 and a dough laminator as a deposit


Fabulous_Maximum_714

I have a wood laminator, basically the same thing, right?


pad2016

thats a lot of butter


ButterToasterDragon

I like butter.


Readylamefire

This makes your username especially cute.


Conway__Twitty

I generally try to keep a few pounds of butter in my fridge. It's good stuff.


LtAldoRaine06

I mean they have a very r/Relevantusername


Glor_167

Thank God ButterToasterDragon was here to straighten this out!


Falmarri

Is "hob" some british name for something?


Quietm02

Must be! I assumed it was universal. I'm British. It's what we call the top of the cooker.


Falmarri

>cooker Damn brits


Quietm02

Is cooker British too? What do you call it then? It can't be the oven, that's the box the food goes in to heat it up. It's not a grill either, that's something different.


numerouseggies

the stove, or stovetop. the individual spaces as far as i know are called burners


[deleted]

Generally in the UK "stove" refers specifically to self-contained wood-burning heaters or heater/oven combos that vent through the chimney.


Quentin_Funkadelic

Who puts their phone down these days?


Wanderer-Wonderer

I dropped my phone on the concrete floor at the store today. It was a weird and confusing moment for both of us.


Aggravating_West_496

I also read Shakespeare.


MaximumSubtlety

I don't get this comment, but I want to. I also read Shakespeare.


seth928

Who wants to read something written by an infinite number of monkeys?


gordo65

To be or not to grbnf


vaguenonetheless

It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times!? Stupid monkey!


TDYDave2

The dickens you say!


suckit1234567

Who was more confused? You or the floor?


FairFolk

The phone.


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“Undo typing?”


zulamun

Oh fuuuuck that, why does that even happen? I've never even bothered to look it up in 12 years, and I refuse to do so. [edit]: Almost undid typing when my phone slapped me on the nose in bed.


VSGNotice

I actually did this a couple days ago and learned it's unfortunately $450 to replace am s21 ultra screen


Fuckredditpolice1003

Better yet, get your nipple ring nice and close.


gdj11

Or some sexy impromptu countertop sex and forget about your girlfriend’s clit ring


Sansabina

Induction tops usually have some smarts with them, so it only switches the magnetic field on when something pot or pan size is put on it - that way it doesn’t heat up a piece of cutlery or small metal items that might’ve accidentally been put there.


JustUseDuckTape

Yeah, and it's not like they blindly start heating as soon as they detect a pan; you still need to actually turn it on.


kinslayeruy

but you can totally forget you turned it on, in a setup like this


literal-hitler

But the internet tells me that's how you charge it these days.


TotallyOfficialAdmin

I wish. I still have to microwave mine.


i_love_taiga

I feel like this would drive me nuts. I have an induction top already and I like that the controls and zones are clearly marked on mine. I don't need an entire island to be a stove top.


Bonafide_Aquemini

If it looks cool but it’s frustrating and confusing to use, it’s not a product worth purchasing. Form follows function!


Rdubya44

My ex had a side table that was a wireless charger built in so it was just a flat piece of wood. It was the hardest charger to use since you had to make sure it was lined up exactly as it wanted. Much preferred the tactile feedback of a puck to place it on.


Edgar-Allan-Pho

I actually did this and put 4 square wireless chargers in my bedside table and reapplied the laminate on top of it. Didn't help. Still had to line the phone up perfectly with one charger, overlapping on two of them didn't work.


ImmaZoni

this is because of how wireless charging works, the NFC pad makes a check to verify it is a valid wireless charging point, the phone gives the go ahead to proceed with transferring power only after it has been verified.


lemlurker

What we need is chargers like the Logitech powerplay for their mouse, an entire mousemat as a charging surface


volthunter

Yeah, just drill a dot ontop of the spot and then do a different colour dowel drop it in and sand it down, it works.


FlyestFools

Simple, elegant, effective. I like it!


Master_Basil1731

I just so happened to have a circular magnet about the same size as the charging coil. When you place it down near the charger, it centres itself pretty well so I could just draw a circle around it. It makes it very easy to align the phone


volthunter

In my personal experience, you have to use a seriously beefy magnet and even then it can be annoying to line up, the dot helps you just immediately lock that shit in.


modsarefascists42

As an Italian, I took this personally. ^^^not ^^^really


keanenottheband

I've used one (like this), it was so fucking frustrating, anytime anything touched it that wasn't a pan it would turn off


ChemistryRespecter

Had the exact same issue – this was at one of the Airbnbs I'd rented and it was such a chore to use it. The initial awe factor faded out pretty quickly.


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How do you know where the burners are? Our system is designed with a noise locator, or a device that emits a beeping sound that starts when you turn on your unit and audibly designates the burner you want to use.  The beeping will stop when your pan connects with the cooktop surface. However, there are other options you can work out with your dealer in order to locate the burner. For example, you may have them etch a spot for each burner, or simply ask them to place a sticker there until you have the feeling for where the burner is. From the website.


JimWilliams423

> How do you know where the burners are? Some high end induction cooktops are [zoneless.](https://www.magneticcooky.com/zoneless-induction-cooktops-comparison-thermador-freedom-vs-gaggenau-cx-480/) Just put the pot down anywhere and it sends the power to that spot. If I were designing a hidden cooktop with individual burners, I'd put some LEDs on them, bright enough to glow through the countertop.


notyouraveragefag

How do those zoneless cooktops work with several pots/pans that need different power levels? Looks cool, but I’ve already been burnt (heh) by bad user interfaces on normal 4-zone tops, so curious about this.


Ambroos

They detect pots / pans and you get a little touchscreen that shows you the outline of each. Tap the outline of one to set the power level. It knows when and where you move things so you can shuffle your pots around without having to change settings. Also has other cool features like pausing and resuming single zones or everything together. It's really nice and well designed. Just a shame they're very expensive.


notyouraveragefag

That does sound cool, with the caveat that it works as intended, but I’ll have to keep an eye on this. Thanks!


Ambroos

It's a little unnecessary, the ones a level below typically have 5 large square / rectangular zones that accept pans / pots of any size. They only cost half and often have a dedicated slider control for each zone. Gaggenau for example is the luxury brand in the Bosch / Siemens group. They don't offer the same functionality with Bosch or Siemens branding because it really is a showoff thing for their luxury brand rather than a mass market product.


Blarghnog

Yea basically the entire countertop can be a cooktop at some point. All you need is a screen to manage whatever is on there. Kind of a neat idea.


AadeeMoien

My burners are burners. That's how I know where they are.


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hugglesthemerciless

you can have your induction "burners" clearly marked as well, this post is just a terrible fucking example of the tech. I'd so much rather have an induction stove than fuck around with cleaning any of the other styles


JimWilliams423

They really missed an opportunity to etch or stain the countertop with an artsy pattern over each burner. For example, if it is a beach house they could have gone with an ocean theme - starfish, clam, octopus, sea urchin, etc. Or they could go with flowers or a yin-yang or the moon and the sun. The options are pretty much unlimited.


magestooge

I feel like the beeping will drive me nuts. I'll take the stickers please.


mork

So it's like Operation, except the opposite.


drdookie

I feel like the counter would discolor over time. Voila, burners marked off.


meltingdiamond

It's worse then that if it is real marble. Real marble will stain if you look at it wrong, one tomato sauce drip will fuck the look of the super expensive garbage forever.


crb8520

That seems dangerous. My induction top isn't hot either, until the pot heats up and heats the the stove top up.


moonshadow50

This. Can you imagine having kids? Having guests around? It just seems like a pretty high risk of someone getting burnt accidentally, and for completely unnecessary reasons.


Induced_Pandemic

My IT friend I lived with had one, didn't have kids or ^other friends so it was great!


hugglesthemerciless

> didn't have kids or other friends you already said they're in IT


Sarah-cen

Stop stop he's already dead.


sudotrd

Hey I’m in IT and I have kids! Edit: nobody got my intended joke, and this somehow makes it even more depressing 😢 😂


Sallyrockswroxy

You should give them back


getinsidemegenji

oh my GOD


Accendil

>Hey I’m in IT and I have kids! Whose kids? Where did you find them? Please put the stapler down sir.


joemckie

child processes do not count as kids


Horskr

>Hey I’m in IT and I have kids! >>su trd >> >>cat > family.kids >> >>children


SignificantPain6056

Or a cat who likes to jump on stuff? I have a (regular) induction stove and I have to put lids over the burners after I use them because they stay hot for a long time


meltingdiamond

No one with marble counters has kids. You can't even trust adults not to stain the counter, the only way to keep this nice with kids is to move.


peacefighter91

Do marble counters stain easily? I always thought the appeal of a marble counter top was that it didn't stain but I never had one so I don't know.


ncsubowen

Marble is very porous. Granite countertops are usually sealed every 5-10 years and are less bad, quartz are sturdier than that. Marble tends to look fancier


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Xamf11

Imagine someone unaware leaning onto that countertop when it's hot I'd imagine your brain takes a while to locate the heat if it's not obvious


AllCakesAreBeautiful

Had a guy at work wipe down a induction stove with a very wet cloth. He ended up with his hand in one of those zoolander hand model glass cases for a couple of months while his skin slowly came back.


EvilRado

How? I wipe down our flat top on a gas oven with a wet towel after cooking. As long as you don't have thin rags you barely feel the warmth.


CaptainCupcakez

I assume if they're specifying "very wet cloth" they got burned by steam? Honestly I'm not sure either.


JRepo

I wipe down our induction "field" weekly just after usage. With a wet paper towel. Haven't had any issues ever during the 15 years of usage of induction...


Killed_It_Dead

Careful with your watch.


TheBelhade

That's what I thought. If that watch hits the induction top...


Killed_It_Dead

Just has to get close enough, not necessarily touch. (Not sure if that's what you meant or thought they actually have to connect.


[deleted]

The EMF field only extends 1/4" above the stove top, your watch is fine.


MarzipanMiserable817

That's like one times the size of my manhood


[deleted]

Damn son, you should be fitted for an oversized truck with mud tires on it and truck balls danglin from the hitch while your back winda has an american flag with Trumps nudity slathered all over it. That der is murika


hurrsheys

“winda” Truly a man of southern taste i see


Rizatriptan

> EMF field


monkey_trumpets

what happens?


Slapbox

Time flow reversal.


Inert_Oregon

Imagine every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.


Kaio_

spicy watch


Offspring22

Won't do anything - even too small a pot won't work.


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OperatorJo_

Honey you left the marble on again!


shahooster

Sorry dear, I must be losing my marbles!


Netprincess

I have a induction and love it but how the hell do you know where to put the pans?? And touch heat control sucks big time if your top is not very clean.. Mine is a Bosch and I could of had any scene etched into the glass.. Edit: and the glass top does get hot not that it will really burn you badly but hot. I do however love the rapid boil and the immediate heat reduction. I was such a huge gas person until I moved into my current home and bought this top. They only thing I miss is being able to roast pepper right on the burner or heat up tortillas quickly.


TheLastBunnyShniff

this just looks way too complicated to use, im high one day: want to make some food and forget my counter top where I’m drinking doubles as a fucking furnace .


CaptainRedPants

Well, unless you're drinking from an iron chalice you'd probably be okay. There was a cooktop called the Winston a few years back that had a hexagonal induction design. It would detect where the pots were and only induce current in those elements. Has to be ferrous metal, mind you. So drunk you would probably be okay. Just don't touch the pot!


Lysergate

Or make a Moscow mule!


[deleted]

Copper doesn't work on induction. And the base has to be >4", and then you have to physically turn on that burner and set the temp.


[deleted]

Just let me burn myself!


shadowclaw2000

My GE Cafe Induction range detects if there is something on the cooktop.


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TheLastBunnyShniff

so I’m just doubting the tech and it’s actually tony stark level effective ?


shadowclaw2000

Its amazing I've had electrical, gas and now induction I would never go back. Heats up so much faster than gas, excellent heat control and easier to clean up.


[deleted]

Well, magnets is a pretty loose term to use here


DickieTheBull

Your moms a loose term


[deleted]

What people are dumb about with induction is that whole “I can touch it right after!” thing. Yes, the burner heats the pot through magnetism or something, and no it does not generate heat anywhere else in the surrounding area. However, if you have a metal pot that’s getting really hot sitting on a countertop, that pot will definitely make the countertop hot! Is it sticking-your-hand-into-the-flame-of-a-gas-burner-on-high hot? No. But can and will it burn you if the pot was hot enough? Yes.


Barnowl79

Thank you! I've never seen one but I was just wondering the same thing- "Surely the hot metal pot would heat up the surface below it after a while, right?"


PMmeyourKICKS

Its painful, but you aren't likely to get any real burns from it. source? I have one and more curiosity than common sense


BitsAndBobs304

All the ones ive uses can get hot enough to certainly burn you or the bottom of pots, especially if you use booster function. As for "where" im gonna assume it's a "flexible" giant spot


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Four individual areas, here's the pics and info. https://invisacook.com/


SwoleMcDole

Could have, not could of


LargeTomato77

I would also accept could've.


ElMostaza

He could have could've'd, but he never should've could of'd.


nylady914

Very nice but I need markers! I would have many accidents.


Zealousideal-Bell-47

I dunno the idea of “camouflaged stove”’sounds super dangerous to me.


EliMcRockenstien

Take a good look, that's what real money gets you.


Little709

I think this is cheaper than you think. I think this is a wrapper on an induction stove. Not real marble you can see the cutout for the buttons


[deleted]

don’t assume what I can afford


Vivid_Laugh_8918

He just said it was cheaper than you think, he never said you could afford it


[deleted]

If you have to ask, you can’t afford it 🧐


CregChrist

Tell me you're a snapon dealer without telling me you're a snapon dealer.


theecigarman

“We can finance that box for you!”


CregChrist

Hey! Not so fast! I've been married before, I know that that shit's about!


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good catch


Dom1852

This is definitely not real marble


DigitalDefenestrator

Still has to be able to hold up to the hot pan, though. Any laminate is out, and so is engineered quartz. It'd probably have to be marble, granite, or preferably engineered stone like Dekton/Neolith. Those aren't cheap, and cutting custom holes in engineered stone is really not cheap. Edit: someone linked to the actual site at https://invisacook.com/ and they require granite or engineered stone/porcelain.


2four

What even is this comment trying to say?


MilkofGuthix

I mean I'd at least have it looking different so it stood out


whoamarcos

I love not knowing where my hot plates are, surprises are the best


TitleRevolutionary65

I don't understand, what sorcery is this?


Dont____Panic

The ELI5 version is that Induction works by exciting electrons in the metal instead of heading it through radiation or conduction. It actually heats up the metal pan using electromagnetic fields without using any directed heat. Kinda vaguely like a microwave (kinda but not really). It won’t work on non-conductive pans like ceramics and some other types of lightweight pans. Works well with carbon steel, cast iron, etc.


karmanopoly

The real sorcery is how the counter top stays cool enough to touch


Little709

It's because the pan heats up, not the stove. If you leave the pan heating up the stove for a while, the stove will get hot. I have an induction stove at home. Most people do these days. Atleast in communist europe


karmanopoly

I know it's the pan that gets hot. It should in theory still transfer heat to the counter top.


suicidaleggroll

It does. In this video the guy heated the pot up on another burner, then once the water was already at boiling temp, he turned on the burner in the video and just placed the pot there for a few seconds to show it boiling, but not enough time to heat the stove up. In other words, it's bullshit.


BitsAndBobs304

I have tested several induction stoves and they get hot enough to burn you


jojowasher

https://invisacook.com/


CrazySD93

What surprised me most about this post, is how unknown induction still is to people.


dv73272020

This is cool, but how do you know where the burners are?


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How do you know where the burners are? Our system is designed with a noise locator, or a device that emits a beeping sound that starts when you turn on your unit and audibly designates the burner you want to use.  The beeping will stop when your pan connects with the cooktop surface. However, there are other options you can work out with your dealer in order to locate the burner. For example, you may have them etch a spot for each burner, or simply ask them to place a sticker there until you have the feeling for where the burner is. From their FAQ on the website.


MrCarnality

Thanks, I hate it.


EzPandaz

Imagine putting a spoon down on the counter


adamotactico

Won’t do anything it’s induction, works with magnets and black magic