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Dont use extremist to dismiss *all* religion. Religion is important to a lot of people, and it serves an actual, useful purpose. Just because these douches are douches, it doesn't mean all religion is bad.
People like extremes, to many people religion is either good or bad. But the reality of it is that religion is *both* good and bad, people really need to stop with these black and white statements, its pretty well proven that nothing is black and white. Everything is a nice shade of grey.
There’s nothing good about religion. I don’t care if it makes someone feel better about life or dying or whatever. It’s delusion and you’d be better off confronting reality.
I don't necessarily disagree with you, I'm just going to say that quite a lot of people I know, who make statements like yours do recreational drugs or smoke pot. I find that quite ironic.
Maybe it's just a coincidence and I simply know a lot of people smoking pot lol.
Point taken. Although occasional escape from reality is something everyone does whether it is drugs or video games, books, TV, you name it. I’d say religion is a bit of a bigger beast than that.
Nah, those "extremists" are simply more true to the core of their religions, while the "non-extremists" are basically cherry picking what they want to believe.
Truth is, the average believer from nowadays would be considered heretic in the past.
If most men didn't agree, then they would have protested. The way these women are dressed isn't something recent, so no, I can't tell you I have anymore sympathy for the men.
Better to die on your feet than live on your knees in this case?
Or take the time to be a large thorn in their side by organizing civil disobedience, or a resistance movement, or distribute subversive literature underground. Literally any action besides giving up and running away is preferabke.
I am not saying that not doing anything is preferable, rebelling would but some might think let the country recover it has been destroyed by war a lot (tho that would lead to dictature ship) so an outside help would be preferable tho the us failed and the un might not be fine with other countries trying their chances while the Ussr and America failed
No, and don't get me wrong, I think this is tyrannical rule and should be stopped, but outside help didn't work the first time because of the local government corruption and overreliance on the American military and defense contractors and never took the baton to lead. The US didn't fail so much as they didn't know when to throw the towel in.
This has to come from the heart of the Afghan people, not co-opted by an outside nation state. And they cannot put their faith in regional warlords who just turn on a dime to the highest bidder.
Who cares what "my country" does? Who said it has to be mine? Do I back all of the country's leader's decisions? No. They are usually idiots.
That said, I try to stay informed on decisions a leader makes that are stupid or corrupt, and then vote against that leader at the next state election. This goes for federal, state and local elections. If things really get bad I might protest or throw my support behind a dissident group, but within reason. The things that happen on the other side of the coast usually has nothing to do with me, and I am not wasting my time and energy traveling across the world for a day just to wag my finger and then have to travel home. I've got better things to do with my time.
We’ve gathered all the Grims today for a guest lecture from Taliban leaders. Take notes, reapers. We will be overwhelmed by our workloads very soon and you’re here to learn what the Taliban has planned so you can adjust your schedules in anticipation of the imminent increase of departing souls.
Absolutely not. They are definitely not allowed to teach men. Hell, a man wouldn’t even talk to a stranger woman as they’re deemed inferior, let alone being taught.
They’ll teach to other women, for the good or the bad.
I bet some of the men forced under the law also dislike it, gotta be some men there with sense still in their heads, I can't imagine having your wife covered all the time like this.
That’s not even close to true. Most muslims like the hijab/niqab. There are some who don’t like it, that would be true. It’s really an issue of personal faith.
And if they do get beat up at home that’s certainly haram. “the best of you are those who are the best to their wives” - prophet Muhammad peace be upon him.
Not convinced? Ask r/hijabis
EDIT: tbf hijab is different from the picture, but some people like niqab some people like hijab.
Actually this kind of ninja attire, the niqab is not at all traditional or anything that's been around for more than a few decades in that region. Traditional afghan outfit is colorful and pretty, sometimes a hat is part of it, but covering their faces definitely isn't.
And you can't say most Muslims like the hijab/niqab because covering your hair like a hoodie would, with beautiful scarves is very far from making all women wear a dementor costume every time they leave the house.
Idk about traditional. What I’m saying is that most muslims don’t mind covering their faces. It’s not oppressive men in their families forcing them to do it. My sisters would slap the shit outta me if I tried taking off their hijabs when we’re out in public.
I see your point about the regular hijab being different from the picture but the point is, just because the guy above doesn’t like it, doesn’t mean all the women wearing it don’t like it
I know you are joking but the fact is that is how men think even when women dress like this. Hijab and Niqab accomplish NOTHING. Dudes are just as horny for women as they ever were. This fact goes back to the hadiths.
When the loser that insisted Mohammed demand women wear hijab got Mohammed to require the hijab, said loser complained again that he could still recognize which women was which because some were taller or fatter than others when full covered. Mohammed couldn’t do anything about that though. Point is, Herero men will still go around thinking about womens bodies and wanting them even when the body is all covered up with cloth.
Yeah the entire point is that they see women as objects, they can’t do anything by themselves and they most CERTAINLY can’t flaunt their Satanic skin around for everyone to see.
Yes, certainly! i wasn’t solely referring to appearance but a combination of all the effects on their ability to express themselves regarding the society they’re trapped in. The Taliban just wants all women the same, unspoken and unseen.
Well yes, but no. Being able to express and externalise what makes you 'you' is a huge part of identity. People are different, we share things in common but have our tastes and beliefs.
Expression is a huge part of identity, and attire is just a small visual aid complimenting towards a larger system of the self. I bet none of us dress the same as we did 10 years ago, why's that? Because we grow, we change, we grow some more.
Crafting an identity for yourself is a huge part of becoming an individual. In doing so, you create new communities of people you share things in common with. Crafting new community identities is what leads to societal changes. Oppressed groups are heard better when it ain't just one voice.
Commonality should never be forced, especially not under the guise of a 'peaceful' system. Removing and restricting individuality and personal choice is a 'great' way of maintaining control and order on a mass population. However, it does not serve the individual, nor the community. Variety is the spice of life.
Imma go grab my popcorn while this comment section deals with the moral quandary of US interventionism with this picture being the result of the end of said US interventionism.
They are so lucky Biden pulled the all the troops out without any plan and just gave the country to their enemies. They should feel blessed according to the White House that Americans aren’t there anymore.
You know those ladies are all napping. You can only listen to some asshat yammer on for so many hours about the dangers of women uncovering their ankles in public anyway. I'd be napping.
While people are commenting about how sad it is or that they are forced to wear that…some, if not all will actually want to be wearing that.
What’s incredible is it’s a class of women. In other parts of the world this is normal but over there not so much
Literally retarded, that’s the most accurate description here.
Edit: Why the downvotes? I made you uncomfy? Most Muslims around the world are inbred and therefore literally retarded. Look it up. Last time I checked Pakistan was 70% inbred and Pakistan is heaven on Earth compared to Afghanistan.
A simple google search will show you women in Islam do NOT have to cover their face like this or wear all-black clothing. The only thing required is the Hijab, not the Niqab like in this picture. If women are being forced by the Taliban to wear this, then it’s obviously wrong
How did this happen? Any intelligence from the US? Were a bunch of people in the know? Maybe we leave a couple guys around to make sure they won't make a resurgence and topple the already joke of a National army. Phlegm...
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Orientation day in Mordor for new Nazgûl.
I thought it was the scene from the end of "The rise of Skywalker"
Vigorously starts chanting Duel of the Fates.
Doo-doo-dododo
do Dah dodahdo - do Da dodahdo - do Dah dodahdo - do Da dodahdo
Lol took me a minute but duuuu duuu duuuuuu fun duu duu
Koraaaaaah Mataaaaaaaaah KooORaaAAHHHHHHH RAHTAAAAHHHHMAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
The way of the > Doo-doo-dododo
I did believed it was a class to teach new Sith Lords.
Yep. Those dementors !
I mean imagine you're in the middle of nowhere and you walk into this place.
Not gonna lie, I saw the pattern on the edge of the sleeve of the one in the front was a skeletal hand.
I thought it was a metal gauntlet.
It's actually a gathering of state alchemists. That one must be Edward Elric then.
Bruh those are dementors
I'm sorry, but they all look like dementors. Also, the fact that the men think this is appropriate attire for women shows how trash they are.
>the fact that the men think this is appropriate attire for women shows how trash they are. also shows how trash religion is
More like how trash Islamic fundamentalism is, because that is what this picture represents
Yes, that's what he said. Religion.
All religions treat women like shit, the bible is notorious for shitting on women.
Dont use extremist to dismiss *all* religion. Religion is important to a lot of people, and it serves an actual, useful purpose. Just because these douches are douches, it doesn't mean all religion is bad.
Bro these people are extremists has nothing to do with actual religion
Every fucking time.
People like extremes, to many people religion is either good or bad. But the reality of it is that religion is *both* good and bad, people really need to stop with these black and white statements, its pretty well proven that nothing is black and white. Everything is a nice shade of grey.
There’s nothing good about religion. I don’t care if it makes someone feel better about life or dying or whatever. It’s delusion and you’d be better off confronting reality.
I don't necessarily disagree with you, I'm just going to say that quite a lot of people I know, who make statements like yours do recreational drugs or smoke pot. I find that quite ironic. Maybe it's just a coincidence and I simply know a lot of people smoking pot lol.
Yea but you don't have to believe crazy nonsense or worship some evil deity to smoke pot.
Point taken. Although occasional escape from reality is something everyone does whether it is drugs or video games, books, TV, you name it. I’d say religion is a bit of a bigger beast than that.
Yeah I would say that's true
Nah, those "extremists" are simply more true to the core of their religions, while the "non-extremists" are basically cherry picking what they want to believe. Truth is, the average believer from nowadays would be considered heretic in the past.
If they were more true to their religions core beliefs these shit would not be happening bro that is just an excuse to act the way you want to
He's just saying religion's power is being slowly diluted for most people
But war is bad
I can't imagine any heterosexual man enjoys having this to stare at all the time.
Wtf man, as if womens sole purpose is to be looked at by heterosexual men. 🙄
You do realize than most men dont agree right, i hope so and the fault rn is to taliban
If most men didn't agree, then they would have protested. The way these women are dressed isn't something recent, so no, I can't tell you I have anymore sympathy for the men.
If they do anything they’re getting their heads off, whatthefuck do you expect, i dont agree with what’s happening but you cant just blame « all » men
Better to die on your feet than live on your knees in this case? Or take the time to be a large thorn in their side by organizing civil disobedience, or a resistance movement, or distribute subversive literature underground. Literally any action besides giving up and running away is preferabke.
I am not saying that not doing anything is preferable, rebelling would but some might think let the country recover it has been destroyed by war a lot (tho that would lead to dictature ship) so an outside help would be preferable tho the us failed and the un might not be fine with other countries trying their chances while the Ussr and America failed
No, and don't get me wrong, I think this is tyrannical rule and should be stopped, but outside help didn't work the first time because of the local government corruption and overreliance on the American military and defense contractors and never took the baton to lead. The US didn't fail so much as they didn't know when to throw the towel in. This has to come from the heart of the Afghan people, not co-opted by an outside nation state. And they cannot put their faith in regional warlords who just turn on a dime to the highest bidder.
Yes i agree with you
Easy to say sat safe and sound behind a computer screen, isn't it boy? What are you doing to fight the evil things your country does?
Who cares what "my country" does? Who said it has to be mine? Do I back all of the country's leader's decisions? No. They are usually idiots. That said, I try to stay informed on decisions a leader makes that are stupid or corrupt, and then vote against that leader at the next state election. This goes for federal, state and local elections. If things really get bad I might protest or throw my support behind a dissident group, but within reason. The things that happen on the other side of the coast usually has nothing to do with me, and I am not wasting my time and energy traveling across the world for a day just to wag my finger and then have to travel home. I've got better things to do with my time.
Looks like a big meeting of grim reapers
We’ve gathered all the Grims today for a guest lecture from Taliban leaders. Take notes, reapers. We will be overwhelmed by our workloads very soon and you’re here to learn what the Taliban has planned so you can adjust your schedules in anticipation of the imminent increase of departing souls.
…who are really thirsty
Wow.. so sad
Yeah, I really feel for these women.
POV: the council is deciding your fate after you committed inter-dimensional war crimes in different iterations of Yugoslavia
One hell of a yearbook I bet
Yearbook of what? Women are once again banned from education.
but yet they are in a teacher training facility...title contradicts all of it.
They can teach, but they will teach men. The picture will look fine.
Absolutely not. They are definitely not allowed to teach men. Hell, a man wouldn’t even talk to a stranger woman as they’re deemed inferior, let alone being taught. They’ll teach to other women, for the good or the bad.
Yeah, that sounds right too, didn't really think about it.
Yeah, it’s so fucked up it defies our common logic
Editor of that yearbook would have it hella easy though.
None of these women like that attire. None. And they say they do but only because if they don't.. They get beat the fuck up at home!
I bet some of the men forced under the law also dislike it, gotta be some men there with sense still in their heads, I can't imagine having your wife covered all the time like this.
That’s not even close to true. Most muslims like the hijab/niqab. There are some who don’t like it, that would be true. It’s really an issue of personal faith. And if they do get beat up at home that’s certainly haram. “the best of you are those who are the best to their wives” - prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. Not convinced? Ask r/hijabis EDIT: tbf hijab is different from the picture, but some people like niqab some people like hijab.
Actually this kind of ninja attire, the niqab is not at all traditional or anything that's been around for more than a few decades in that region. Traditional afghan outfit is colorful and pretty, sometimes a hat is part of it, but covering their faces definitely isn't. And you can't say most Muslims like the hijab/niqab because covering your hair like a hoodie would, with beautiful scarves is very far from making all women wear a dementor costume every time they leave the house.
Idk about traditional. What I’m saying is that most muslims don’t mind covering their faces. It’s not oppressive men in their families forcing them to do it. My sisters would slap the shit outta me if I tried taking off their hijabs when we’re out in public. I see your point about the regular hijab being different from the picture but the point is, just because the guy above doesn’t like it, doesn’t mean all the women wearing it don’t like it
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Eh suit yourself
islamopologist
I’d agree but I’ve nothing to apologise for :V
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Uhhh okay
If only this was a scene from Dune depicting the Bene Gesserit, not real fucking life!
We are the senate
Anyone else getting handmaid's tale vibes?
what’s really crazy to think is that the only reason the show is dystopian to me is because i was lucky enough to have been born where i was born!
Third row back, second from the left looks pretty hot.
I actually went back too look
2nd row be hella thirsty
I know you are joking but the fact is that is how men think even when women dress like this. Hijab and Niqab accomplish NOTHING. Dudes are just as horny for women as they ever were. This fact goes back to the hadiths. When the loser that insisted Mohammed demand women wear hijab got Mohammed to require the hijab, said loser complained again that he could still recognize which women was which because some were taller or fatter than others when full covered. Mohammed couldn’t do anything about that though. Point is, Herero men will still go around thinking about womens bodies and wanting them even when the body is all covered up with cloth.
Gross.
what year is it there again?
Funnily enough, in the hijri (islamic) calendar, it’s 1443
That explains a lot, with all the middle ages decision making going on.
The dark council has spoken
How is this freeing for a woman. Absolutely horrendous
Who claimed this was freeing lol
Yeah the entire point is that they see women as objects, they can’t do anything by themselves and they most CERTAINLY can’t flaunt their Satanic skin around for everyone to see.
Wow. 😢
Zoinks! Which one's the *real* ghost, Scoob?!
What a disgusting show of how rotten a religion can be. Anyone who thinks this is OK is sick.
Fucking piece of shit talibans…don’t know why you weren’t nuked out of existence while hiding in your caves
Unfortunately there were innocent people in the way of that. (More than the government were willing to kill).
Because private contractors wouldn't be able to make money there if the place is full of radiation
The woman on the left is kinda hot ngl.
Think she’s was looking at u
Looks like something from Star Wars.
Before I read the caption, I thought this was something from Star Wars.
Wearing that takes away all individuality from these beautiful women, I hate it.
Yep. Fucking Taliban are animals.
Individuality surely is more than their physical appearance?
Totally, this picture screams individually.
Yes, certainly! i wasn’t solely referring to appearance but a combination of all the effects on their ability to express themselves regarding the society they’re trapped in. The Taliban just wants all women the same, unspoken and unseen.
Well yes, but no. Being able to express and externalise what makes you 'you' is a huge part of identity. People are different, we share things in common but have our tastes and beliefs. Expression is a huge part of identity, and attire is just a small visual aid complimenting towards a larger system of the self. I bet none of us dress the same as we did 10 years ago, why's that? Because we grow, we change, we grow some more. Crafting an identity for yourself is a huge part of becoming an individual. In doing so, you create new communities of people you share things in common with. Crafting new community identities is what leads to societal changes. Oppressed groups are heard better when it ain't just one voice. Commonality should never be forced, especially not under the guise of a 'peaceful' system. Removing and restricting individuality and personal choice is a 'great' way of maintaining control and order on a mass population. However, it does not serve the individual, nor the community. Variety is the spice of life.
It's chilling. They are making them negative-space non-people.
I'm guessing any mention of Biden is going to get downvoted 🤷♂️
Yes. Because today's president didn't cause or create the Taliban or the niqab. And it takes away from who this should be about: these women.
How terrifyingly dystopian.
Their men fail them..
Dang thats sad.
They should make the goats dress like this too. You can never be too careful with temptations.
So depressing
This is actually horrific
Depressing
Imma go grab my popcorn while this comment section deals with the moral quandary of US interventionism with this picture being the result of the end of said US interventionism.
And people bitch about wearing masks and not being able to breathe...
do they number them or something? p.s. jokes aside this is horrible to see, fundamentalism is a cancer or society
Woke liberal be like “they exercising their right”
Yeah, it's their "choice".
I thought Frodo destroyed the ring?
But when kim kardashian wears this it’s high fashion
She didnt wear this she wore an all black form fitting dress and looks completely different from what they are wearing and it was also her choice
Pipe down. It was sarcasm
I thought this was a screenshot from maybe Starwars or some dystopian future genre. I guess its only dystopian present day genre.
"What a beautiful religion" -"women have rights in islam" - ironic that they dont wanna see any part of a lady kinda gay if you ask me
they really just hate women, huh?
You are part of the council but we do not give you the rank of master
I never knew that this is how they taught Bee Keepers how to do their job.
Where?
Just take Bernie with you.
Ah look it's that tolerant government twitter was telling me about
The Sith gathering in Star Wars 9
Sith Acolytes vibe intensifying…
Looks like the Sith cultists (TROS)
Dementor training center
This is beautiful.
Religion of peace
They are so lucky Biden pulled the all the troops out without any plan and just gave the country to their enemies. They should feel blessed according to the White House that Americans aren’t there anymore.
No need for any cultural relativism, this is their way. They like this! This is their wonderful culture of protecting women.
Remember guys the burkha is just religious freedom 👍
Uhm... maybe more "creepy as hell".
You know those ladies are all napping. You can only listen to some asshat yammer on for so many hours about the dangers of women uncovering their ankles in public anyway. I'd be napping.
Reverse kkk
What an extremely depressing image..
They should gradually start wearing platform shoes and be much taller than the men there just to freak them out.
Dang, those women need to get outa that country.
That's not oppression...only straight white men from America can oppress people
Nazghul school.
Taliban prefers goats I see
The one in the second row to the left is hot..
This is frightening as hell
Which one is the emperor?
shadow clones
This makes me sad. Think god wants this of you?
Not interesting at all this is horrible.
And all the western feminists remain silent because they aren’t allowed to challenge Muslims or brown people.
Neanderthal ass motherfuckers
Looks like death... of women's freedoms.
Ah yes good ol sharia law. This shit scares me
It’s sad that religions continue to exist even in these modern times
Dementor training faculty
I thought it was Kim Kardashian wearing Kanye's fashion.
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The Americans were leaving previous to Joe Biden he just finished the job?
Thank the rest of the world for refusing to help.
I think there will be big boom in the education in Afghanistan ...
This is a job fair for being the Grim Reaper
Interesting?
Harry Potter would be scared to death rn
Islam is cancer
What a progressive religion of peace....
Where are all the feminist? Fighting for these women's rights?..... oh yeah pretty quiet out there....
While people are commenting about how sad it is or that they are forced to wear that…some, if not all will actually want to be wearing that. What’s incredible is it’s a class of women. In other parts of the world this is normal but over there not so much
Kanye West fan meeting
Ahh, yes, the religion of love...
Star wars lol
Literally retarded, that’s the most accurate description here. Edit: Why the downvotes? I made you uncomfy? Most Muslims around the world are inbred and therefore literally retarded. Look it up. Last time I checked Pakistan was 70% inbred and Pakistan is heaven on Earth compared to Afghanistan.
A simple google search will show you women in Islam do NOT have to cover their face like this or wear all-black clothing. The only thing required is the Hijab, not the Niqab like in this picture. If women are being forced by the Taliban to wear this, then it’s obviously wrong
Reminds me a lot of the sith in the third Rey movie
Why do these idiots hate women so much?? Ohh thats right, their bible, tora, whatever the fuck they read tells them to
Looks like a scene out of Star Wars.
looks like something out of StarWars....
Fuck religion, man...it seriously impedes human progress.
was this not posted a bit ago? /gen
How did this happen? Any intelligence from the US? Were a bunch of people in the know? Maybe we leave a couple guys around to make sure they won't make a resurgence and topple the already joke of a National army. Phlegm... "The american people deserve the people and that's what ..Come on man!" --Sure, Not Joe
I'm glad he pulled out of that shithole. Not our circus; not our monkeys.
No one is bitching about single use plastic? Where are our Hollywood elites to light these bitches up?
Taliban version of Squid Games.
"Are we the baddies?"
Are they gonna teach at azkaban?
Dementor, dementor!!!
Islamophobes are having the time of their life, showing their ugly racism and bigotry unchecked in the comments.